Re: [Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server ( access 2000 can)

2004-03-18 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Daniel Kasak wrote:

| You're not going to like this, but I think it's a problem
| you should be  taking up with M$.  I can't imagine why the
| print preview operation would need to contact
| the print server.
It doesn though.  The first thing to check is to make
sure that the printer information (i.e. devicemode, etc...)
has been initialized on the server.  See the Samba HOWTO pdf
for details.
| Maybe if you were handy with a packet sniffer you could see
| what happens when Access 2003 wants to do a print preview.
| I know I'd have no idea  what to do :)
A network trace is a very good idea.  First try the
suggestion above and then get a waw capture file for me
if the print preview still fails.


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RE: [Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server ( access 2000 can)

2004-03-18 Thread daniel . jarboe
Jerry Carter wrote:
 Daniel Kasak wrote:
 
 | You're not going to like this, but I think it's a problem
 | you should be  taking up with M$.  I can't imagine why the
 | print preview operation would need to contact
 | the print server.
 
 It doesn though.  The first thing to check is to make
 sure that the printer information (i.e. devicemode, etc...)
 has been initialized on the server.  See the Samba HOWTO pdf
 for details.

Doesn = does, correct?  Jerry, you were exactly right; it was a
devicemode problem.  The printers got reinstalled when we were going
through tdb problems, and landscape/portrait trick not re-done for all
of them.

Thanks,
~ Daniel








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RE: [Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server ( access 2000 can)

2004-03-17 Thread daniel . jarboe
 Has anyone else heard of or had any issues printing with Access 2003
to
 samba servers?  Other office 2003 products print fine, and Access
2000
 worked, but Access 2003 will not print to a samba server here.  In
order
 to get access 2003 to print, I have to change default printer to
 something on a windows server, and then it works?
 
 That sounds more than a little suspicious.
 What sort of setup do you have?
 Samba == CUPS?

Yes

 Raw print queue or the CUPS driver?

Raw, w2k driver installed from print$ share.  This is not a
manufacturer's driver with all the bell's and whistles either, just
simple default w2k minidriver.

 I have had some issues printing reports from Access to some of our
 printers that claim to be PCL6 compatible ( and have PCL6 drivers ),
but
 only work with the PCL5 drivers.
 
 What happens when you try to print?

Here's the latest.  When I have some samba printers installed as the
default printer, File... Print-Preview causes the window to momentarily
flash light like it redrew itself, but that's it.  File... Print
(Ctrl-P) does not seem to do anything.  No print property windows or
anything.  With Access 2000, everything worked.

With the same printers on a windows server, File... Print-Preview causes
the window (that previously just flashed light like a redraw) to display
the preview in the same window.  Print-Preview toggles back and forth
between these views.  File... Print (Ctrl-P) brings up a Print window,
and here I can see the samba printers that didn't work if they were the
default printer, select them, and print using them.  But if those
printers were previously the default printer, none of it works.

Through trial and error, I've discovered that our HP LaserJet 4050 and
8100 on the samba server both fail if they are the default, but oddly
enough a HP LaserJet IIISi on the same server works fine.

If I install one of the same failing drivers (8100) as a local printer
(even while keeping existing driver), print preview and other operations
work fine.  It's only when the samba printer is selected as the default
printer that I have problems :(.

~ Daniel




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Re: [Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server ( access 2000 can)

2004-03-17 Thread Daniel Kasak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone else heard of or had any issues printing with Access 2003
 

to
 

samba servers?  Other office 2003 products print fine, and Access
 

2000
 

worked, but Access 2003 will not print to a samba server here.  In
 

order
 

to get access 2003 to print, I have to change default printer to
something on a windows server, and then it works?
 

That sounds more than a little suspicious.
What sort of setup do you have?
Samba == CUPS?
   

Yes

 

Raw print queue or the CUPS driver?
   

Raw, w2k driver installed from print$ share.  This is not a
manufacturer's driver with all the bell's and whistles either, just
simple default w2k minidriver.
 

I have had some issues printing reports from Access to some of our
printers that claim to be PCL6 compatible ( and have PCL6 drivers ),
   

but
 

only work with the PCL5 drivers.

What happens when you try to print?
   

Here's the latest.  When I have some samba printers installed as the
default printer, File... Print-Preview causes the window to momentarily
flash light like it redrew itself, but that's it.  File... Print
(Ctrl-P) does not seem to do anything.  No print property windows or
anything.  With Access 2000, everything worked.
With the same printers on a windows server, File... Print-Preview causes
the window (that previously just flashed light like a redraw) to display
the preview in the same window.  Print-Preview toggles back and forth
between these views.  File... Print (Ctrl-P) brings up a Print window,
and here I can see the samba printers that didn't work if they were the
default printer, select them, and print using them.  But if those
printers were previously the default printer, none of it works.
Through trial and error, I've discovered that our HP LaserJet 4050 and
8100 on the samba server both fail if they are the default, but oddly
enough a HP LaserJet IIISi on the same server works fine.
If I install one of the same failing drivers (8100) as a local printer
(even while keeping existing driver), print preview and other operations
work fine.  It's only when the samba printer is selected as the default
printer that I have problems :(.
~ Daniel

 

You're not going to like this, but I think it's a problem you should be 
taking up with M$.
I can't imagine why the print preview operation would need to contact 
the print server. Our Access 2002 ( XP ) system works fine with:

Samba-3.0.1
CUPS-1.1.20 ( raw print queues )
 - HP 4050N
 - HP 4500N ( colour )
 - Ricoh AP3200
 - Ricoh AF2027
I've just tried copying one of our Access shells to my PC, creating a 
small local table, creating a report of the table, pulling the network 
cable out, and running the report, and it doesn't seem to have a problem 
doing a print preview for a network printer that is unavailable. Maybe 
Access 2003 is asking something new and M$-specific of the server?

I'm suspicious that this is
a) M$ being clever about not printing to a samba server
b) Some other issue with Access 2003.
Maybe if you were handy with a packet sniffer you could see what happens 
when Access 2003 wants to do a print preview. I know I'd have no idea 
what to do :)

Sorry I can't be more help. I will keep this discussion in mind when 
considering our upgrade path...

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[Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server (access 2000 can)

2004-03-16 Thread daniel . jarboe
Has anyone else heard of or had any issues printing with Access 2003 to
samba servers?  Other office 2003 products print fine, and Access 2000
worked, but Access 2003 will not print to a samba server here.  In order
to get access 2003 to print, I have to change default printer to
something on a windows server, and then it works?

Anybody heard/seen anything?
Thanks,
~ Daniel















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Re: [Samba] access 2003 clients can't print to samba 3 server (access 2000 can)

2004-03-16 Thread Daniel Kasak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone else heard of or had any issues printing with Access 2003 to
samba servers?  Other office 2003 products print fine, and Access 2000
worked, but Access 2003 will not print to a samba server here.  In order
to get access 2003 to print, I have to change default printer to
something on a windows server, and then it works?
Anybody heard/seen anything?
Thanks,
~ Daniel
 

That sounds more than a little suspicious.
What sort of setup do you have?
Samba == CUPS?
Raw print queue or the CUPS driver?
I have had some issues printing reports from Access to some of our 
printers that claim to be PCL6 compatible ( and have PCL6 drivers ), but 
only work with the PCL5 drivers.

What happens when you try to print?

Dan

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North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060
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website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au
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