Re: [Scid-users] engine auto-install
There is no 'submit comment' button on that page. You need to create a SF account and log in, HG. Then you'll see a Discussion, with a box to respond. I've linked to your previous comment. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] critter linux
Hello Joseph, After you succeed in compiling Critter and Stockfish, click on Tools/Analysis Engine... and follow these steps: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TheAnalysisEngineList/ Here are the instructions to compile Stockfish on Ubuntu: http://support.stockfishchess.org/kb/advanced-topics/compiling-stockfish-on-linux Best of luck! B -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] critter linux
Try using scidvspc. Please refrain from spamming. -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] NAG - What does a red D mean?
Hello Fred, I've submitted the bug: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/bugs/69/ One day, I'll be able to fix this kind of issues, but for now I can barely manage the clerical needs of the SCID project. Thank you for your patience, Ben -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Where is the suggestion box?
Where is the appropriate place to make a suggestion? http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/ I'm noticing icons disappearing as I resize the game window. That would be a bug: http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/bugs/ -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] NAG - What does a red D mean?
In the PGN Window, D means diagram. I think it appears when you annotate a game with an engine and leave Mark as tactical exercise checked. A diagram therefore means there's a tactical exercise. So there is a relationship between diagrams and dubious moves... B-) *** As a side note, in the Game list, a D would mean a deleted game. A deleted game is only marked as such. To erase all trace of it, you need to compact the database. -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Comments General Game Summary
Is there a method to add my own personal game summary notes after reviewing/studying a game to the top of the notation window? Yes. From the Comment Editor (CTRL-E), add your comments at the start of the game, before you play any move. They should appear before the first move. *** Also note that you can expand the Short Header by left-clicking on the PGN Window tab, where it's written Notation. When you do, the PGN headers appear: [Event ?] [Site ?] [Date .??.??] [Round ?] [White ?] [Black ?] [Result *] -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Annotations Questions - Analysis Engines
Can all UCI engines theoretically annotate? I think so. Is there a source/webpage that explains how to activate annotation for Rybka. Not specifically. Here's how I could make Rybka annotate: First, I went and downloaded the free version: http://www.rybkachess.com/free/Rybka232a.zip Second, I placed the 32 bits version in a dedicated directory, say under scid452/bin/engines/rybka Third, I added Rybka in my list of engines: from the **Tools/Analysis Engine** dialog box, click on New; Add a name (e.g. Rybka) to recognize it; then (this is the crucial step) click on the ... button next to Command empty box, and select the Rybka executable. (There's no need to modify anything else. I never do. If someone can chime in here, go ahead.) Fourth, load a game on the main board, and select Rybka, using the same the **Tools/Analysis Engine** dialog box. You should have an analysis window. Fifth, in the Analysis window, click on the Annotate icon. This should work. -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Annotations Questions - Analysis Engines
OK. I think I found the disturbing feature: I've been trying different analysis engines and noticed that not all of them annotate. In SCID, it's possible to open two engines at the same time. It seems that one can only annotate using the first engine opened. So the function *Tools/Analysis Engine* loads the engine #1. To open the second engine, one needs to click on *Tools/Analysis Engine #2*. Clicking again on *Tools/Analysis Engine* will close the engine #1. *** Also, I've edited this page to reflect this important topic: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TheAnalysisEngineList/ I've added a screenshot to clarify the explanation. This starts my review of SCID's dialog boxes. The solution should go on TheAnalysisWindow page: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TheAnalysisWindow/ The whole page needs to be rewritten. -- ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Editing Games
Why isn't it sorting? BTW, it doesn't matter which header I choose, none of the get sorted properly.What is suppose to happen when I click the Date Header? Click until you see a little 1. It needs to be the first criteria. If you click on another column and get a 2, that will be your second criteria. The new SCID will improve the Gamelist window a lot, BTW. Is it possible to edit a game's info (headers: Name, ELO, Date, Etc.) from within SCID? With databases in SCID format, yes. For one game, Game / Save (CTRL-S) or Replace Game (CTRL-R) For many games, explore File / Maintenance / Maintenance Window (CTRL-M) How do I change any of the headers (PlayerName, ELO, Date, etc) or moves [from an imported game]? Same answer as the previous one, unless I misunderstand. -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Query...
Hello Philip, After your search, go in Tools / Export All Filter Games / Export Filter to PGN File This should get you what you want. Enjoy SCID! B -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Books.bin
I'm attempting to create a book.bin using polyglot-14 and I'm wondering if I should use any specific parameters to optimize it for SCID? Since a .bin book is simply a PGN file that has been compacted in a way to be readable by a chess engine, the parameters should be related to the chess engine you want to use, if any. I don't know if there's any specific parameters, as I have never done that. I will check this out. *** Is there a preferred method of creating a book.bin for SCID? I don't think there's a way to create .bin books inside SCID. Although this would certainly be nice to have... Anyone willing to tip Fulvio or another programmer for the gig? You need to use Polyglot using the command line. I would recommend you get Polyglot directly from their project page if the Polyglot that comes with SCID does not work. *** Thank you for asking all these questions. They will help clarify all the issues that newcomers may have. -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Books.bin
Hello jk, I'll try to answer in chunks, as this pushes the limits of my knowledge of SCID. Also, I need to check with other versions of SCID to confirm your problems. I tried to reproduce your behavior by: - opening Tools / Book Tuning - selecting Elo2400.bin - changing the third value (9) to (25) - clicking on Save - selecting gm2600.bin - selecting back Elo2400.bin Here are the starting values: 52-32-9-6-1. Here are the new values: 43-34-12-11. I have no idea what Polyglot does here. Except that it adjusts the weights so it gets 100%. I tried to increment the third value by one, and save. It does not complain until I get way above 100%. Then it gets adjusted. This may be a Polyglot bug, or a feature. *** In any case, I could modify the values of these books. -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Options Menu - Directories
Jello, jk Here are some answers. ## 1 ## Is a book just a collection of User Selected Games Basically, a chess opening book is a file with opening lines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_opening_book_(computers) The format used in SCID is Polyglot: http://hardy.uhasselt.be/Toga/book_format.html There are free opening books available online. To build your own Polyglot books, you need to use the command-line tool: http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/PolyGlot.html ## 2 ## Why does SCID offer both a Tablebase Directory and a Bases Directory in the Options Menu? The Tablebase directory is a placed where you store endgame tablebase: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame_tablebase The Bases directory is where you could store your personal SCID databases. Tablebases should have their own directory. In my case, they even have their own partition. ## 3 ## I have several databases one of which is a collection of MyGames. Let's say that I want to compare one of my games with those in the ICOfY database. I know that I could select the ICOfY database; select new game; and begin replaying my game and view changes in the tree window. I could also search a position using a filter. But what is the easiest way to make a comparison using my game's PGN? How can I do this without adding my game's PGN to the ICOfY database? The Tree window can be useful for this kind of search. I seldom use it, since it's too slow to my taste. So here's what I do. To find games in ICOfy that match the active position in the active game from the active database, i.e. the position displayed on the main board, simply go Search / Current Board / (Ctrl-Shift-B) and in the window, select the database ICOfy you want to search. The Gamelist of ICOfy should display only the games that match that criteria. To look at these games, you could save these games to a database dedicated to this position for future reference, copy them to the Clipbase for temporary retrieval, or browse the game directly in the Gamelist by right-clicking on a game you want to view and select Browse game. There are other ways to search for games. If people have their own recipes, feel free to share them! ## 4 ## Can FENs be used? Can a FEN be imported? Can it be used to search? Yes, for instance to setup the board: Edit / Setup Start Board (Ctrl-Shift-S) then paste the FEN at the bottom of the window. Afterwards, since it's now the active position, you can do as in #3 to search for games that match that position. *** Feel free if you want more information. If they are clear enough for you, I'll add them to the Wiki. Hope this helps, Best, Ben -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Why doesn't Analysis best move not match that of Cursor's choice?
After enquiring to jk, we isolated the problem: I see the best move and then go to the game window to move the cursor over the piece. However, the game window's first choice (the greyed cell) doesn't match what is shown in the Analysis window. I asked jk if he had Show Suggested Moves on. He confirmed that he was seeing the suggested move. This functionality has nothing to do with the analysis. I am writing this because he asked an interesting question: How are these suggestions generated (which engine)? Do you know how, Fulvio? -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Options Menu - Directories
JK, Try Options / Save Options before trying File / Open or New *** Alternatively, if you have Options / Auto-Save Options on Exit you can exit SCID and reopen it. *** Both solutions work for me. It even works when you specify an USB key. Best of luck! Ben -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] ICCF changes to xfcc secure server (patch)
Just caught this: I tried to access the How to create patches link in the wiki, but received: Error 403: Create access required. Will enquire. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid namebase issues in git / Project fallout
Steve A, I point at this: It is hard to think well of such poor communication and insults. and at this: Yes - this hack [...] That is all [1]. *** I think it is time you credit the source of every piece of code that you include in your software not written by you, as the GPL requires: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IWantCredit That ought to get you busy this summer. Oh, and Fulvio also asked you to step down. It's hard to think well of someone who micromanages what he hears and what he does not. [1] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/greenfieldism -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Visualizing analysis on the board
Thanks for this. So playing with FICS conflicts with trial mode. Therefore, I think we should speak of a FICS mode: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TrialMode/ I'll try to build on the concept of mode, which seems important to have a better understanding of SCID. Thanks! *** To try a variation in FICS, you might be interested in this page: http://www.freechess.org/Help/HelpFiles/intro_analysis.html You should issue these commands into FICS and see what happens. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Visualizing analysis on the board
Massimo, Here is what the PGN window looks like before I try moves in the trial mode: trial-mode-pgn-window.png https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6spOZ3Tv2a5c2VaUVBBYU8tLUE/edit?usp=drive_web See what it does when I hit trial AND try a move that has not been played in the game: trial-mode-moves-disappear.png https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6spOZ3Tv2a5MWNaUDU2MnNnR1E/edit?usp=drive_web To see the move disappear, try clicking on the hammer (trial mode) AND entering a new move. Tell me if that works. My tests have been done with the OSX version. *** Two observations: 1. I can't really tell whether I'm in trial mode or not. Nothing seems to indicate that on the screen. 2. I'm not sure an icon that rests on an English pun (trial) is the best way to represent it, although I have no better suggestions yet. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://www.hpccsystems.com___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Problem with SCID 4.5.2...
Hello, This question has been added to the wiki: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/IsCompactingDatabasesSafe/ If all goes well, the wiki will be revised this summer. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Visualizing analysis on the board
I can think of two other ways to view variations, Massimo. You can add variations to the game by clicking on the V button. That way, the whole variation is added to the game in annotation, with the engine's name. Then you simply need to click at the end of it in the PGN window. The other way is to vizualize vairations directly in the analysis window. Click on the button with a chessboard on it: a small chessboard will appear. From now on, all the end positions of the analyzed lines will appear. I find the small chessboard quite useful. It gives me a way to see at a glance the kind of positions a move can lead. Hope this helps, Ben -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Visualizing analysis on the board
Thanks for the report, Massimo. Let's see if I can't help you out: If instead I try to use the show analysis windows on the analysis window I only get a board with the current position, I can't see any variation on it. If I click with the right button on the analysis window, it gets blank and says Click here to see moves, if I keep on right-click clicking on it I see (I guess) the end positions of the variations but the analysis window stays blank! I don't think your right-clicks should change the analysis board. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that it takes time for the engine to kick in. After a while, the end position from the top line should appear. When the top line gets kicked out by another one, the analysis board should change. Sometimes, I get impatient and go back and forth in the game to make the engine react. Tell me if that works for you. *** I click on start/trial mode (the hammer button or edit→try variation) then I click add variation (the +V button on the main menu) but then? I can't move a single piece on the main board by clicking on them! At this point I would like to try the moves proposed by the engine. I'm not sure what you mean here, but try to see what happens in your PGN window. When you're in trial mode, the game score disappears and is replaced by the trial you make on the board. It's like a virtual game you are playing from a position that has been played. As soon as you click on the trial button again, you get out of the trial mode and you return to the game. The game score should reappear. Perhaps that adding variations works with the trial mode, but that's not its intended use. Adding variations simply adds variations to the current game score. Try to see what adding variations does in the PGN window. (Don't forget that if you only want the first move added, you can click on the + button.) *** So I would say that there are three solutions offered for you: trial mode, add variation and the analysis board. Try one at a time. Good luck! Ben -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Editing single game...
Hello, In SCID, PGN files are read-only. To modify a database, first convert it to the SCID format. I usually do that using two different techniques. Assuming you have created a new SCID database. Then, either I do - Tools/Import File(s) of PGN games; - Copy the games from the Database Switcher. Tell me if that's enough information for you. If now, I can try to do a step-by-step guide. Perhaps I'll have time to create a Youtube video this week too. -- Time is money. Stop wasting it! Get your web API in 5 minutes. www.restlet.com/download http://p.sf.net/sfu/restlet___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid.eco
Zukertort Opening for the opening 1.Nf3, not Reti, because the Reti system is the move order 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4. I thought Zukertort was 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 (à la Kramnik) , while Réti was 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4, the Nimzo-Larsen could be obtained through 1. Nf3 and 2. b3. Since 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 leads to the English opening, 2. b4 is an Orangoutang and 1.Nf3 c5 2. e4 is a Sicilian, I'd say that 1. Nf3 is simply 1. Nf3. A related and interesting quandary is the King's Indian attack. Does it go in the French defense? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid.eco
The opening is determined by playing a game backward I agree: the last theorical position classifies the game. Nf3 d5 c4 is not Reti, if for example white plays d4 somewhere in the next moves. The argument is too strong: 1. e4 c5 would not be a Sicilian because one can transpose into a King's Indian attack, an English opening (2.c4), or else. That we have decided that an accelerated Dragon is a Sicilian is more a matter of convention than anything else. In any case, this tends to argue that it would be simpler to agree that all ECO variants with only first moves should be nameless. That only leaves us with games like 1. c4 1-0, Fischer c. Najdorf. Does it really matter if we don't say that this is an English opening? *** Another solution would be to interpret first moves not as openings per se, but as move orders. There would be the Réti move order, the Zukertort move order, etc. Move orders are the bread and butter of many grand-masters. It is a pity we have no way to capture that knowledge. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Common searches
Hello Fulvio. My most common searches are by position, by rating, and by ECO. What you implement is enough for most of my searches. Thanks! I have a question and a request. The question is this one. In your video, there are five icons in the game list window. Your video shows the use of two of the icons. What do the three others do? The request would be to see how we could filter through many ECOs. The idea would be to filter a whole repertoire in one go. That is, when I download TWIC, I would like to be able to filter it according to what I play. So the request is to have many ECO searches linked with OR's operators. It also echoes what the Repertoire used to do. So perhaps there's already some code in SCID. Thanks for this exciting video! -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] bug report
Hello Michael, What would be the steps I'd need to make to reproduce that bug? Thanks, B -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Chessbase tips from Pump Up Your Rating, in Scid
Hello Remco, In the Help files, under Move Entry, it says that one can enter Null moves in SCID. To enter a null move, it says one can click on the two Kings or to push -- (minus-minus). I could not reproduce the ways to do so in OSX. This may mean SCID does not implement this anymore. Or that there's a bug with my version. I'll try to inquire. In any case, I think that SCID's representation allows for the possibility you'd like to have implemented. *** A related wish would be to list ALL the threats on a position. That is, the engine should communicate all the moves that changes the evaluation drastically. This list could be built in a comment for the game. It would work like the annotations in ECO that starts with a triangle, i.e. with the idea of. Tell me if you can enter Null moves. Bye, Ben -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Chessbase tips from Pump Up Your Rating, in Scid
OK, I now could enter a Null move by clicking on the two Kings. But I needed to uncheck Show Suggested Moves in Options/Moves first. When Show Suggested Moves is on, clicking on the two Kings on the start position does nothing. This may be as it should be, as suggested moves can hinder Null moves. -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools
Wow. you all have *no idea* how to write a makefile Is that an offer to write one? -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools
I'm stating a fact: Many facts, in fact: - Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools [the title]; - Do you people not know how to actually use autotools to avoid this from happening? Seriously, this isn't advanced stuff. - Your makefile is completely inconsistent. - Wow. you all have *no idea* how to write a makefile - This is ridiculous. - I know in your world, simple restart the computer solutions work, but in the real world, they rarely work. - Any competent programmer would know that [...] - You have no idea about what you're talking. Please confirm that these were meant as factual observations. *** I'm sorry you have to waste time solving this stupid problem, Jai. But you claimed the solution was not advanced stuff. Yet the obvious solutions you found do not work. Here's what I could find by searching for compiling Scid under Ubuntu: http://blog.thameera.com/installing-scid-in-ubuntu-linux/ This seems to work. Perhaps the problem resurfaced recently: http://askubuntu.com/questions/338017/scid-chess-program-compiling-issue (The instructions quoted by the querent are deprecated.) If you can improve that page that would be appreciated. *** If you can improve the configuration process, so much the better. How would you automate all this? -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools
Why can't you just admit that your little script is 100% broken? Because it's not my script. Because it's not 100% broken. Because the admission is already in the comment of makefile.conf Because the admission is implied in the many requests you ignored to scratch your own itch and produce something that would be trivial to a competent programmer like you, and now dismiss in complete lack of self-awareness. *** Not sure what you're trying to say. That your claim not to have flamed can easily be proven false and that newly minted PHDs in computer science should know better. Nothing I've said here is false. Unless you can demonstrate that truth prevents flames, this is irrelevant. *** Oh, and my previous search for compile Scid under Ubuntu returns this on the first page: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42t=124341 Pray tell if this would have worked for you. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools
How do I donate ? We (Fulvio) do (does) not accept donations. There's some Kickstarter idea that would need to be developed. But nothing is certain on that front. Wikipedia always needs money. I'm sure Fulvio would appreciate if you'd work on creating an Autoconf'ed configuration instead of donating. SCID needs more competent programmers than money. I'm glad you're issue got solved. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools
Dear Jai, I repeatedly asked you to scratch your own itch. I also asked you if some search results would have helped. Both fail to qualify as pretending to know how to solve your problem. Do you think that please download the latest sources count as a please restart your computer for newly minted computer science PHDs? Now, please take some time to appreciate your newly compiled SCID! -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] no sound in scid-4.4 in Mountain Lion
Hello balu, Sorry for the long delay. I can only answer one of your two questions: I created a new database but starting the app always bring up only the 'clipbase'.. where can i configure it? Unless I'm mistaken, the only way to load SCID with a database is to launch it from the command line. That means you open your terminal, go into your SCID directory, and type something like this: $ ./scid path-to/your-database where path-to is the path to your database and your-database is the name of the database you wish to load when SCID opens. *** I don't know how to solve the sound problem. It may be related to the new Tcl/Tk on Mac, but I am fishing in the dark here. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Books directory not found
Hello Sanjib, The .bin that you're mentioning are the binary books you wish to use, right? In that case, the message error usually means that you need to 1. go to Options/Books directory; 2. select the directory where you have your engines books. 3. save your Options. If that does not suffice, restart Scid. If that still does not work, the problem may be tougher to solve. PS: I still have an Annotate button, here on my OSX installation. Scid 4.5.1 is out, BTW. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Issues on Mac OSX Moutain Lion
Hello Patrick, Sorry about this niggling problem. To see if there's a problem with your installation, please try to install Israel's image: http://sourceforge.net/projects/scid/files/Scid/Scid%204.4/Scid-4.4_OS_X_10.7-10.8.dmg/download Please try that and report here. If that does not work, we'll have to check your system configuration. Let's hope that this image will work for you. Do not worry about having multiple instances of SCID on your Mac. You can always delete this image the usal way, i.e. by deleting the App. You can always make uninstall any instance on your Mac too. If someone can reproduce Patrick's problem, that would be nice. I can't on my Mac. Good luck! Ben -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Compile scid 4.5.1 on Mac
to compile I didn't need to have Apple Xcode, but only Command Line Tools. Thanks for this! I've modified the Wiki page accordingly: 1) Go to [Apple Xcode](https://developer.apple.com/xcode/) and install the command line tools. https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/CompileScid This line might be different when you'll read it, as we're in the process of consolidating that page. Please report back if your Scid.app does strange things. -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Compile scid 4.5.1 on Mac
Does this create a DMG? I think it only creates an App, but that it would not take much to create an App out of it. But I don't know how to proceed exactly. Perhaps Israel could explain that. Does snack sound package is included? I don't think so. -- AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Compile scid 4.5.1 on Mac
create an app inside the subdirectory dist and create a dmg By create a dmg, Fulvio means do something like this http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-DMG-File-on-a-Mac As Fulvio just said when I asked him for confirmation, a dmg is just a fancier zip file. -- AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Compile scid 4.5.1 on Mac
Hello Patalex, If you want to compile Scid, following these three steps might be enough: First, http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/GetScid/ Second, install Apple Xcode and Xcode command line tools. Third, open the terminal, cd into the Scid source code directory and run the following commands: $ ./configure $ make make clean (Do not enter $: it represents the command prompt.) *** If all you need is Scid, you can follow the instructions here: http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/InstallOsxDMG/ This DMG should work with OSX 10.7 and up. *** If there's a problem with these instructions, or if you need more help, please contact me. Good luck! Ben -- AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Changing default engine, training
A lot of work still need to be done and for the moment i will not work on new features. If that's the case, I would suggest that we collect these new features requests over there: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/ This way, those who would like to develop new features should never run out of programming quests. *** So I've added Joao's request: https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/22/ *** I've also added added a special request: **The Scid Project Needs Developers!** https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/23/ This way, everyone knows where the project stands. There is no shame in that. Also, note that this **is** a legitimate request. I'm sure this is a feature many of us would like added to the project. There is no dichotomy between a program and the project that produces it. A program that is maintained by an active community becomes either a ghost or a gem. *** There is also this important consideration: Suppose a new developer asks for directions. If Fulvio has to take him by the hand, this means more work for Fulvio. But Fulvio already said his hands were full! So if you developed Scid in the past and do not wish to develop anymore, please consider mentoring. Scid's code base is not small. Guiding new developers might be needed. Bye, Ben -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Changing default engine, training
Damn negation: A program that is NOT maintained by an active community becomes either a ghost or a gem. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Changing default engine, training
Poub, Sorry for the earlier response. I missed your for tactical training bit. It looks like you need Toga or Phalanx: when I click on Play/Tactical game, it tells me Unable to find engine. Please configure engine with Toga as name, But the wording gave me the idea to Add a new engine by doing as I said above, with the exception of step 3: instead of naming it Stockfish, I named it Toga. It seems to work for me. That is, as long as your engine is named Toga in the name field, Scid does not care which engine it really is. Tell me if that works for you. Bye, Ben -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] LoadRandom
Hello, The only context in which loading a random game would make sense would when doing tactics. And even then, we'd need something more robust than that: load a random game that has not already been solved by the user. And it would not be in the main menu anyway. My 2 cents as a trainer, Ben -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid 4.5: development version
Seems that there is a precedent to that practice: With the introduction of Apache 2.1, the Apache httpd project has adopted an odd-even release strategy, where development happens with alpha and beta releases assigned an odd-numbered minor version, and its general availability (stable) release is designed with the subsequent even-numbered minor version. E.g. 2.1.0-alpha through 2.1.6-alpha were followed by 2.1.7-beta through 2.1.9 beta, and cumulated in the 2.2.0 general availability release. http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] compiling 4.4 on Mac
Hello, Some notes: - Scrolling does not work when not on the active window. - Scrolling does not work when viewing a game in the Browsing window. - The gamelist does not work yet, i.e. the dates are not well-ordered. - The gamelist does not seem to update newly saved games. Also, it seems that in the compiled Scid I used from the Git, there were arrows to indicate variations, instead of a menu of moves. Now the menu is back. I'd rather have arrows, since the other technique disrupts scrolling. *** Finally for tonight, while working with the Browsing window (viva the 21 inch screen!), I noticed that merges were done relative to move orders. That is, I tried to merge a game I found in the Best Games Window from a Database opened as a tree and found out that the choice to merge the game did not take into account the position I used from the Best Game Window. More explicitely, I was trying to merge a game that starts with 1.c4 into a game that starts with 1.d4 and the only choice I had was offered was to insert the game after the first move. I don't know if that's the default behaviour, since I've never tried to merge games before, or never had to merge two games with different move orders. Bye, B -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] compiling 4.4 on Mac
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Re: [Scid-users] error importing .pgn file
Hello Fernando, Since I am writing a FAQ, I'll try to answer in a more general way. Here is a possible problem you could have: To import PGN games, the **active database** needs to be either the Clipbase or a database in Scid format. When your active database is in PGN format, you will be authorized to click on Tools/Import File of PGN Games, but it will throw an error: this database is read only. (I don't think that this database is read-only is very instructive, btw, since this database can refer both the target and the source db. This warning could be clarified.) *** That said, I don't think this is your problem. It could be about file permissions. That is, like Mario, Alex, and Chris just said, you could need to have the permission to write on your PGN file to import it. If you're on Windows, you go on the Explorer, right-click on the file, select Properties, and uncheck the attribute writing only, or something like this. But I can't reproduce this behavior on Windows with Scid 4.4. Here's what I did: - open Scid; - set the file attached below (1k) to read-only; - activate the Clipbase (Database Switcher, click on the Clipbase icon); - imported it to the Clipbase with Tools/Import... I imported the game without any problem. *** So I have to ask: do you have a problem with a specific file, or could you reproduce this behavior with many PGN files? If you have a problem with a specific file, can you post a link to it? If you can reproduce this behavior with many PGN files, can you tell which version of Scid and which operating system you are using? *** Sorry for creating such a fuss for a lousy PGN file. But speaking for myself, when I read Opening polgar.pgn read-only..., I don't see why I should not be able to import it. As I understand importing, it reads from the target file and writes to a file. The target file could, at least in principle, be immutable. Only the target file needs to be in a writing format, i.e. Scid. The error messages could certainly be improved here. Bye, Ben PS: ct-Bazeev, German-Levin, Evgeny A.-2013.3.19.pgn Description: application/chess-pgn -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Hello, Sorry for not double checking the links. Here's what has been pushed so far: 1. The trailing / to Gerardo's has been removed; they all will be checked, since it seems there are no real conventions: some work only with it, some work only without it. 2. The typos have been fixed, including miscellanea in plural. 3. Looise Shaakring's URL has been corrected. It is http://www.looiseschaak.be/downloads/scid/TWIC.zip for those who'd like to have a one-download good base. (Scid could provide this directly from SF website to save bandwidth for the chess club. It should not be a high maintenance file.) 4. More resources will be added. Please note that some of them could go on the Download page, e.g. the TWIC archives from the project's website. Note also that Pascal's Scid is still there because I received an email showing evidence that at least one person in the world still uses PocketPC. 5. The internal links (e.g. how to play correspondence chess) are being processed: I need to create pages for them. 6. An HTML file will be sent back to Fulvio. Converting to HTML is a less-than-ten-clicks process. Thanks for the feedback! -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
pgn4web's author is Paolo Casaschi, not Paolo Casachi. Thanks! Done. Added some proofreaders in the acknowledgement. Some resources for chess engines also been added. If you don't want to be mentioned, please tell me so. *** Today's experiment should show that this kind of documentation tool is more flexible than HTML or tcl files. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
I took the liberty to add my old tutorial, which I just found back: http://benstpierre.com/chess/scid/tutorial/introduction.html It needs to be updated and perhaps included in the wiki, but for now I think it still works OK. *** This kind of introduction should replace Scid's tutorial, which was too big in scope. For more advanced material, HowTos and a FAQ should suffice instead of a complete manual. One minute screencasts should be nice too. *** More about this when I finish the Downloads page. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Hello again. The final draft has been released: https://github.com/bstp/scid-on-the-web/wiki/Resources I'll delete the G document aforementioned. Other comments will have to be done via GitHub or via email. I'll now focus on the Download page. Thanks for all the feedback! Bye, Ben -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Users Ideas..
I started to work on the Download page: https://github.com/bstp/scid-on-the-web/wiki/Download Thinking about user cases, I suggest we provide courtesy bases: - OTB World Champions (Morphy, Fischer) - Tactical base - Studies’ base - Correspondence Wch games - Famous computer chess games - Miniatures - Simple games: e.g. Morphy, Lasker, Capablanca, Euwe, etc. At the very least, we should provide a file that could be used for tutorial purpose. My Scid tutorial came with Zurich 1953. HIARCS' documentation uses this strategy: it reinsures users to reproduce what we're telling them. *** Here's what you get when you buy PGNMentor: Thousands of grandmaster games, including every world championship game ever played Companion PGN files for Garry Kasparov's On My Great Predecessors, Parts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 Companion PGN files for several classic master games, tactics and endgame chess books *** The old NicBase came with Morphy's games, Fischer's games, a very good selection of a thousand games or so from the chess titans. I still consult NicBase's selection from time to time. In fact, I could ask them if they would not mind us providing it. They would not mind if we thank them, I think. *** Providing such games could become a way for non-programmers to give back to the community. *** Sooner or later, collecting chess games will have to become crowded-sourced. -- Own the Future-Intelreg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Users Ideas..
Go on this page: http://london2013.fide.com/analysis/index.html Take your mouse over the analysis lines. You should see a diagram pop-up. Now **this** would be great. I believe we almost have something like this already. -- Own the Future-Intelreg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] [Scidvspc-users] Window Docking feature
You can't, Jai. It's in development. -- Own the Future-Intelreg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Hello again, The page is on its way to a final draft. The sentences should now be clear and straightforward. I've added two resources: [chess-db.com]: http://chess-db.com/ [ARVES]: http://www.arves.org/English/index.htm *** ARVES made me create a category Chess Variants. If you know good sites of Chess variants useful for the Scid community, let me know. *** Some work is still needed to have this page online. I hope to finish the preparations of two sites by the end of the week. Bye for now, Ben -- Own the Future-Intelreg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Users Ideas..
Being able to download directly from a website might be nice, e.g.: ScidBD can download the last games played by someone on ICC and download directly from Scid. V. http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/Scid/ -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] [Scidvspc-users] Window Docking feature
Jai, Docking is the ability to connect windows together in a way to form one big, rectangular interface. This is done by dragging one window onto the main window until it docks. Steven posted a screenshot earlier. I can send the screenshots I sent to Steven if you wish to see. Still waiting for IShowU to send me back my code. Screencasts will have to wait. *** I also wish to +1 Steven design principle: What we need is a config system to know whether to dock any window by default. Being able to save one's configuration should entail this. In fact, in Scid, it's possible to save three different layouts. These layouts can change according to one's mission: studying openings, analyzing games, cleaning up databases, etc. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] X11 library: not found
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3538838group_id=26963atid=389081 I just tried to answer this, but it seems I can't. Sent minimooch an email instead, linking to this conversation. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] What is in the doc directory?
Here's the list Fulvio sent me: changes.txt copying.txt progref.html readme.txt scid-users.txt standard.txt thanks.txt Enjoy, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Users Ideas..
On the 2011-10-27, Fernando Cristancho expressed this wish: I would like to have for the entire data base the normal time order (olders first) inverted, that is, newers first This option does not exist presently in the maintenance window. http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg05773.html -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Hello, The suggestions from Justin Mcclure and Fred Mellender have been included. Yesterday, I mistakenly reported on my progress to Justin alone. Sorry. Here it is again, in a somewhat shorter form (I had more time). *** The sections of the page are: - Tutorials - Chess Games - Chess Engines - Online Chess - Chess Tools - Scid Cousins - Contributors - About this Document This list is not robust: some stuff might move depending on the information architecture. But do you think there is a *type* of resource complementing Scid missing? Sound files, perhaps? *** I am wondering if I miss any obvious resource. Think about how your Scid installation: Is anything there worth mentioning? Am I forgetting any Scid cousin? Any indispensable chess tool? Shoot from the hip! *** The compilation starts to look solid. But I still have some questions: Do I refer to George Cramer’s [Scidb]? What about David Kirkby's [ChessDB]? Has anyone tested Pascal Georges’s [Scid Pocket]? I could have told you about the IA and the editorial process this developer case made me do, but I think I'll wait for now. Have a good weekend, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition / Project Merge / Etc...
[linking between games in one's DB] might be tricky, for it might mean a change in the database format. Maybe something to keep in mind for si5? Chris Bannister has previously asked if there was interest in that matter: http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06062.html So +1 to that suggestion. If that is not possible in Scid, let it be noted that two Scid's siblings, [ChessX] and [Jose], have a SQL back end. [Jose] (http://jose-chess.sourceforge.net) [ChessX] (http://chessx.sourceforge.net) ChessX is quite solid and the ability to simply copy-paste a PGN game is quite handy. *** Looking at ChessX's site, I will observe two things: First, the developers thought of providing silly nicknames to their releases... :-P Second, the developers provided a set of pages for developers. In the introductory page, we can see their hall of fame, where I seem to recognize Marius' name. There is this interesting list of norms: Compilation; Translation; Task List; Standards; SVN; Creating release *** I would like to be able to have a feature where a database can be created/written as a book, then exported to Latex as such. I'd +1 the overall idea, as I believe that Scid is for me a *bookmaker*. So I would propose myself that we include PGN4web's powerful CSS tool: http://pgn4web.casaschi.net Exporting to HTML would make a lot of sense if I could create websites like these. As an aside, I will note that Jose also provides a servlet, which is something I find interesting, although I've not tried it. *** Speaking of bookmaking, improving the ability to create opening books for engines might be needed. More so if Scid is going to have functionalities for engine aficionados. *** The most urgent matter would seem to be to use the tracking devices (bugs, help, patches, etc.) SF provides. If these pages are not being monitored, they should be closed down. If these pages are closed down, we should try to use another kind of list. It would be easier for developers to submit patches if we asked them to look at a bug list. It would be easier for testers to report issues. It would be easier for everyone, in my opinion, even with a centralized organisation. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Any free databases out there?
I just stumbled upon this page where there's a zip file for all the TWIC games to date: http://www.top-5000.nl/pgn.htm Here's what it says: 2.2 million quality chess games in PGN format.After 5 years an update with 500,000 new gamesmainly from the archives TWIC. Database is now up to date till January 2013. After downloading click on the self-extracting executable. This is nice. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Has anybody tried PyChess? https://sites.google.com/site/pychess/ Has anybody tried Knights? https://knights.sourceforge.net -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Strange. I just saw screenshots. Wait, this: http://knights.sourceforge.net -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
It might be wiser to simply refer to this: http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Download/FICS_Download_Interface.cgi -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid Links - Call for Comments
Does anybody have a good resource for computer engines? I found this: http://www.schachcomputer.info/ but I don't find this friendly, to say the least. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
Since we're into the Australian elections, here's another analogy: *** When psychologists talk about whether someone is in control of their situation, they talk about _agency_. A person with high agency controls their destiny. A person with low agency is at the mercy of others for their situation. The research in this paper demonstrates that when people have a low degree of control over their situation, they tend to favor equal divisions of resources. When they have a high degree of control, they tend to favor options that give the best possible outcome for everyone concerned, even if they don’t benefit as much as others do. In one study, they had participants perform a task in which they had to estimate the prices of a variety of products. It took about 10 minutes to complete the task, at which point the participants were paid about $3 for their time. (The study was done in Israel, so participants actually received 10 Israeli shekels.) Participants were then told that another person was also going to do the same task. Those in the low agency version of the study were then asked whether they would be more satisfied if the other participant received the same amount of money for completing the task (10 shekels) or more money for completing the task (20 shekels). People were about evenly split between the two options. That is, about half the people wanted the other person to get the same amount of money as they did, while the other half would be happiest if the other person actually got paid more than they did. Participants in the high agency version of the study were told that they could decide whether the other person doing the task would get the same amount of money (10 shekels) or more (20 shekels). In this case, over 80% of the people in the study said that the other person should get more. That is, when people had control, they wanted the outcome that would give the most combined benefit. In another version of the study, the researchers found that high agency even led people to pick options that gave the greatest combined benefit when it would leave them with a lower payment overall. In this study, one option was that the participant would get 11 shekels, while the other person would get 10. The second option was that the participant would get 10 shekels (less money), but the other person would get 20. Participants who had no control over this situation generally preferred the option where they got slightly more money than the other person. Those who could control the payment, though, generally preferred the option where they got less money, but the pair got more money overall. This is a fascinating finding. It suggests that when a group wants to maximize its overall gain, it is important to give everyone some control over how resources are allocated. In this case, people will be most likely to accept an outcome that benefits the group most, even if they themselves don’t get as much of the pie as others do. http://www.smartthinkingbook.com/2013/03/fairness-depends-on-who-is-in-charge.html *** The moral of the story, at least to me, relates to Joao Rita's proposal. To repeat: when a group wants to maximize its overall gain, it is important to give everyone some control over how resources are allocated. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?
Is there a developer mailing list? No, I don't think so. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
+1 on Joao's proposals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
The proposal was not _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project, but rather to use it as the base for the new SCID. Whether the current scidvspc project remains depends on Steven and Sourceforce, but I guess Steven will soon stop work on it. And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: should we say that the proposal was _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project? -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
No, but what does it matter? It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not _exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain open. If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort: A healthy community should rarely need a vote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeEfeature=player_embeddednoredirect=1 -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid on the Move - My player names Does Not Work
Thomas, Gherard confirmed this morning: Yes it's the right place. Bye, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] save pgn as database (SCIDvsMAC)?
Question: Is there a way for me to save these pgn files as databases to avoid having to re-open and index them each time? Yes, there are at least two ways. Here's the first: 1. Create a new database: File/New. (You might need to select the appropriate file type here.) 2. From that Scid database, go in Tools, Import a PGN file (or something like that). 3. Select your Pgn file. That's it. Here's the second: 1. Same as above. 2. Open your Pgn file. 3. Open then database switcher instead. 4. Click on your Pgn database icon and keep your finger on the it. Drag the icon onto your Scid database. If you see two circular arrows, you're awesome. Note that is you're on a PC, step 3 of that second method is: Open your Game list window. You should see your opened databases at the bottom. Note also that this second method is slower for big files. I've included it because that's an important trick to work between databases and game files. Tell me if this works for you, Bye, Ben *** A ten seconds video could be made about each fundamental actions of Scid. But I'll try to wake up first. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] save pgn as database (SCIDvsMAC)?
Hello again, Now under the influence of caffeine, I can see that my instructions had at least one mistake: in scidvsmac, there is no Database Switcher. So here's the revised procedure for the second method: 1. Create a new database: File/New (CTRL-N). 2. Open your Pgn file (CTRL-O). 3. Open the Gamelist (CTRL-L) 4. At the bottom of the window, you should see the databases. Click on your Pgn database icon and keep your finger on the it. If you see two circular arrows, you're awesome. Drag the icon onto your Scid database. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Any free databases out there?
Any volunteers? I could do this. But we should think about revisiting the whole architecture. Anyone who takes a look at the source code should know what I mean. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid on the Move - My player names Does Not Work
Hello Thomas, Are you using Scid on the Go? A great app. I too am addicted. If that's the case, you might be at the wrong place. Even if Gerhard is following this mailing list, you might have a better chance to make him remember of your issue if you post it on his Issues page for his project: https://code.google.com/p/scidonthego/issues/list All you need is to click on the New Issue button at the top left of the page and fill in the form. You should see this text: What steps will reproduce the problem? What is the expected output? What do you see instead? What version of the product are you using? On what operating system? Please provide any additional information below. This time, since I'm already logged in, I'll send the issue as typed in your last email: https://code.google.com/p/scidonthego/issues/detail?id=30thanks=30ts=1363660333 Hope this helps, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
There also might be a need to recall this: Let me clear again - Alex contacted me asking how i would merge and manage the project. I stated to him what i have stated in this thread. He said to me go and gave me Project admin rights - but now he has changed his tune. So for the time being, the merge seems off. Seeming is not being, so I'd like to know if the merge is off or not. Incidentally, Alex' tune matters less than Fulvio's. No need for more hot air, we already know how terrific is Steven's baby. A simple yes or not will suffice to know what kind of takeover this is -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
I think this thread is evidence that there is a strong desire from the user base to revive the development of scid, and that there are people who are interested to help out. Count me among those. I guess it is also uncontroversial that having a larger development community can only benefit the project, because then the project will not die if the sole developer goes MIA. I could not agree more. This is not a theorical possibility: this is the second time in Scid's Project history. Just imagine any kind of public servant doing the same. *** Glancing over the documentation, I found this: You can categorize your contributors in different Usergroups and assign permissions to various portions of your project by group. The default set of groups includes Admin, Developers, and Members. You can add as many groups as you would like, to manage various functions of your projects. Project permissions are managed by assigning the same permissions to everyone in that group. http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project%20Permissions/ Organizing a task force is not an effortless project. There could be other groups than the default groups. I have no idea what permissions Fulvio has, since he could not add me. I have no idea what permissions has franzna's. (For those who don't know him, it's Franz Nagl, the guy who maintains the FIDE list). Clarifying this should increase volunteering. I'm not an administration fan (i.e. I needed to read that SF), but we should be able to make Scid look like a community effort. *** BTW, there is a policy in place to takeover abandoned projects: SourceForge.net projects that are abandoned or no longer actively being developed, may potentially be taken over by another registered SourceForge.net user. To do so, send a message to the existing project administrators by clicking on their name(s) in the project listing and requesting that they add you as an administrator to the project so that you may continue its development. If they add you as an admin, you may takeover the running of the project in question. http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Abandoned%20Projects/ I should have said takeover earlier. Sorry about that. *** Another note: I'm writing this for two reasons. First, because I believe that's where we should discuss. Second, because it will be on record. For ever and ever, people will read this mailing list. This mailing list acts as a tracking device. In fact, this is the only tracker we have so far. (Having a tracking software might be needed, sooner or later. Updating Scid's website to the new SF too.) *** I understand there are things that are best said in private. But it's also important to make sure that the public record is understandable. It also provides evidence for the speech acts. For instance, when Steven says: I think we're going to merge the two Scids back into one. what's missing is: Hello, my name is Steven Atkinson, and I am the new lead developer of Scid. The first part is of course less mandatory than the second one. What we witnessed can be understandable alright. But it was **implicit**. Sometimes, we need to have the speech act to make it official: marriage, baptism, court sentence, etc. What I'm saying right now has only been discovered in the 1950s by the philosophers, so please don't dismiss this as a trivial point. It is trivial, but let's not wait until we need to cast a vote to have some kind of basic decorum, please. *** All we know from one another is mostly this list. We share about 10 natural languages with one another. Openness is important, even if most of the times it could be seen as cumbersome. PS: Note that I took about an hour writing this. This is the first kind of coding humans had. I have a full notebook of UX notes, in case people are wondering if I only like to chat. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
Sorry for the typos. Cordonnier mal chaussé... Perhaps I should clarify this: I believe that's where we should discuss. What I mean is that the discussion is now turning into the **agreement** and **commitment** phase. We need to have an summary statement of what's happening and what's coming up next. As it stands, I'm not even sure if there's a merge, if Steven's taking the lead, and what are the results of the discussion we had so far between Steven and Fulvio. I could propose later this afternoon if need be. I've read this thread a few times now. This could be a good way to end this discussion. I'd rather write my UX notes on my first session with Steven's Scid. There's the other one waiting, entitled **People of good will**. I'll clarify my own commitments over there. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] scid vs scid
Thank you, Alan, for confirming that there is a need for an agreement among Scid's developers. I think we're closer to an agreement than the underling message conveyed by that comment. (This comment should not have been renamed, btw, since it belongs to the previous thread.) Since Alan wants some reinsurance, here's an informal proposal for an agreement between Steven and Fulvio. 1. Steven updates the svn code and archive what is there. 2. Fulvio updates the git code. 3. We rename the two versions in a way that users could see that the alternative. 4. We let Fulvio, Steven, and other interested coders negotiate the merge. This proposal is based on the following facts: - The svn (Subversion) code of scid.sourforge.net is deprecated. - The git code is the most recent code, and is what Fulvio wants to preserve. - Fulvio agrees to update the git code. - Steven shows willingness to lead a community-based project. - Nothing gets deleted, everything gets clarified. If these facts are not correct, the proposal becomes moot. If these facts are correct, I believe there's no need for Alan nor anyone else to worry about Scid's leadership. *** Here's a silly idea for release names that I got while cleaning up the kitchen: Code names that associate World Champions' names with the main developer's era. So we could have an historical release, Shane's last version, which could be called Scid Steinitz (or Wilhelm). We could have Pascal latest version, I believe the on in the git repository, which could be called Scid Lasker. We could have Steven's latest version, i.e. scidvspc or scidvsmac, which could be called Scid Capablanca (too bad there's a Scid Jose already). On the download page, we could maintain these three flavours as executables. We would need at least Scid Lasker and Scid Capa. *** From the user's perspective, here's how it would look, if we have that tomorrow: - Those who want a docking mode download Scid Lasker. - Those who want a fast and clean version download Scid Capa. This might be quite foolproof, unless Douglas Adams is right about fools. I could make screenshot if need be. Fulvio, Steven, please tell me what you think. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
Alan, Please stop filibustering. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
Alan, I've just sent you a private email to settle personal matters. Here's what I'm willing to address publicly: one cannot have a community of developers work in a single project in two channels. This is not ideal, of course. But we're not in an ideal situation. And what I'm *proposing* right now, to Fulvio and Steven, takes into accounts the facts. Now, either one has another proposal, asks for clarification, or waits until one of the two parties involved discuss the matter and reach an *agreement* themselves. For now, Scid Capa has no docking mode. Scid Lasker would be there to have a docking mode than hitting ten times CTRL-TAB each time they Google something, as I had to do yesterday evening (I stopped counting after more than a hundred clicks in a four hours working session). There are other benefits to my suggestion, but I really don't wish to invest another minute arguing for it. If Scid Alekhine is to become community based, I don't think it should start with saying something we won, you lost, get over it. This is not good enough, more so that Fulvio's now offering to oversee the merge himself. So furthermore, I can add this precision. This would be a temporary measure, until what has to be saved is. When this will be done, there will be only one version: Scid Alekhine, say. An agreement should be possible. Peace, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. If this is formulated in the spirit of a rational inquiry, this could be considered as an ad populum. And it would be false, as I'm not happy either. If this is formulated in the spirit of a political vote, it is irrelevant, as the die have already been cast by Alex, which was never the lead dev BTW. *** Besides, Fulvio has already said it was a matter of principle, **since most of his code has already been implemented** in Steven's fork. In doubt, please use quotes. *** I took a look at the version history yesterday, and saw that Steven did good work. Fulvio's concerns can be addressed. I surmise it would be easy to do, if Steven's shadowing was as stellar as described in the revision history. What matters is if there's a willingness to do so. As long as everyone states honestly and sincerely where one stands, any kind of conflict can be resolved. Mind games leads nowhere. All this could easily have been prevented. Openness should be valued in open development. Having a lead dev that goes missing in action did not help either. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
If Fulvio wants to take the lead, he should have the chance. As far as I can see, Steven's another Pascal. This can't be good. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
I'm a correspondence chess player and I use Scid about 1 to 2 hours per day to analyse my games, so I really care about usability and stability. But I do not really care too much how it is achieved, as long as it works. At the moment I spend quite some time every day working around the quirks of Scid (regular restarts to avoid crashes, manual entering of variations, etc.). As I said before, I am really happy Scid exists, but there is clear room for improvement. :) Since I discovered ICC, I returned to chess. I am using Scid on Windows (work), on Linux (netbook) and on Mac (family) almost every day. My Linux installation is up and running for more than a month, now. I mainly search for, analyze, comment, and export games. I don't have crashes. But this is irrelevant. What is happening now is a putsch. This is not the first time Steven tries this. The speech acts are clear enough. *** In any case, I should grant that: [I]f nobody is developing Scid anymore, does it really matter? Considering that: - Fulvio never was granted any admin rights more than access to a Git repository which Steven doesn't even seem to know about when he's bitching on Scid. - Alex never wanted the docked mode and in general never cared much for anything else than his own user case centered around the correspondence module. - Alex does not even acknowledge my emails anymore, so presumably will never give me any admin rights. what is happening right now is a fait accompli. Thank you, Alex. *** What is happening can be quite minimal: Of course there has been a certain amount of divergence, but to me it does not look like it would be impossible to merge them. Nothing is never impossible to merge. But this is not a theorical question. Ideally, Scid products should be federate. Which means Scid should be the minimal subset. And add-ons (e.g. FICS) should come as plugins. Nothing like this will ever happen. Steven stated his design goals not long ago. You can find them in the archives, among the snark and the smirks. In effect, Steven will do as he pleases, as Pascal did. Let's not wonder why the G+ Chess community talks about Scid's usability problems. *** I hope this explains why I believe that this put some perspective on: I think that is also where Steve's proposal is coming from. and that usually forks happen because of social or technical disagreements. I have witnessed the Kirkby-George escalation. I have witnessed Pascal's overpowering reign. And now this. The product of a miraculous evolution -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
[Scid-users] Dr. Kirkby's Page on scid.sourceforge.net
Hello, Please remove this page: http://scid.sourceforge.net/dr_david_kirkby.html This is irrelevant to the project. Thanks, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
A blast from the past: So I will switch naming of my releases from scid-pg to scid as I have the right to. http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00045.html Sound familiar? Yes, but let's forget about the personal. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Donations?
Hello, Since Pascal left the project, there are no donate buttons anymore. I am still unsure of they were properly made at the time. Your question made me look for information about donations at SF. I found this, which seems different than the last time I checked: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Donations So it would be possible to manage a donation system. I asked Alexander on 2013-02-27 to add me as an admin to manage the doc. No response yet. Fulvio can't add me, as he can only access the Git repository. Pascal and Joost are missing in action. The project is slowly but surely starting to look like Bloxsom. Would donations provide an incentive to have a main developer? -- Symantec Endpoint Protection 12 positioned as A LEADER in The Forrester Wave(TM): Endpoint Security, Q1 2013 and remains a good choice in the endpoint security space. For insight on selecting the right partner to tackle endpoint security challenges, access the full report. http://p.sf.net/sfu/symantec-dev2dev___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] The Strange ECO Range of the Richter-Rauzer
Thanks, Fulvio This should be advertized: those who want to contribute should post a patch on the mailing list clearly describing the purpose of their code. with the added precision that the official source starts there: http://scid.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=scid/scid;a=tree *** Would it be OK for you if I simply use an Online Quick Diff? http://www.quickdiff.com/ For my immediate concerns (i.e. documentation), that should be enough for me. *** Here's the result I get with the most minimal modification: - 747 B50-B59 [tr SicilianRauzer]: [trans [list 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 ... 5.Nc3 Nc6]] \ + 747 B50-B69 [tr SicilianRauzer]: [trans [list 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 ... 5.Nc3 Nc6]] \ Basically changed a 5 for a 6. *** There are still two problems: First, we should mention the Classical defense, of which the Richter-Rauzer is only the 6. Bg5 variation. This means I need to delve into translation files. Second, the B50-69 covers more than the Classical defense. But to make that change, I would need to modify the line numbering, which I can't do with the online tool. *** Please bear with my baby steps, Bye, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Referencing a game in a scid database
With regard to the specific scid unique game id I was thinking more of a unique game id within the context of a scid database rather than a global id. With that in mind, if you continue to use the game number (the relative position in the index file) for linking between the database files and use the unique game number just as a reference field in the display or for exporting games then I would have thought that speed would not be such an issue. I agree with this idea. Since the game ids change when compacting or sorting (!) the games, I fail to see how they could be considered primary keys. And having primary keys is kinda important in database design, at least from a theorical point of view. And from a practical point of view, this seems to be what prevents Scid from implementing a linking mechanism inside annotations. We should be able to link from one game to another in the same database. More on that another time, perhaps. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] What is in the doc directory?
Could that be fixed? I would like to maintain Scid's documentation on SF. While waiting for the administrative process to run its course, I'll reproduce the documentation from my own website. Then I'll start to work on it. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Referencing a game in a scid database
Hello, I was wondering if there was a simple way to uniquely reference a game in a scid database which doesn't break after compacting ? The short answer is no: Scid does not provide rigid identificators. When I export a set of games for use in another application I would like to keep a note of the games that I have exported so that if I need to regenerate the list I will get the same games again from the database. From the top of my hat, I can see two solutions: 1. The first is to use personal game flags. You can set them by marking the curated games: - via the Game Info Area: Right-click / Mark this Game - via the Maintenance Window. As the Help for **Game Flags** states: A flag can be set for the current game, all filter games, or all database games using the maintenance window. The Help file misses the right-click trick. This should be added soon. 2. The second is to back up your exported games in a separate database. I usually export all my big exports in separate PGN files. As they are PGN files, I know they are not working databases. Since PGN files are immutable in Scid, this hindrance can be an asset. *** Any other ideas welcome. We need users' cases! Best, B -- The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Referencing a game in a scid database
I suppose an internal scid unique number is out of the question because of database merges etc. ? As I recall it, the issues were size and speed, coupled with the need to create an online repository that could act as the equivalent of a DOI or ISBN for chess games, at least for Scid's sake. See for instance this discussion which recalled another one: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.games.board.chess.scid.user/4759 I suppose everything is possible, but I suppose this will have to wait for now. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid forks
Mainline Scid nowadays is Pascal's fork. Says who? On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Steven stevena...@yahoo.com wrote: Fulvio wrote My fork?? As far as i know, this is the current scid code: http://scid.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=scid/scid;a=summary Mainline Scid nowadays is Pascal's fork. Lots of new features but a bit of a crazy interface. And nowadays it has such a mish-mash of contributions such as Alex's (?) toolbar icons, Fulvios bestgames widget, and the bugs from Gerd's nearly finished cache changes (Opening report is a little broke, filter behaves erratically under a variety of cases).All of Pascal's 'Play' features are hardly usable Him and Shane never collaborated on anything. (BTW, Scid does have more than a few of my interface fixes already from before Pascal and I fell out). Shane's code was of much better quality, and never left any one thing unfinished. I've spent years debugging the interface. . Attached is a screenie. I have to go on record saying I think ScidvsPC has more in common with Shane's project than yours does. Thanks for reading, Steve -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
Re: [Scid-users] Scid forks (screenshot)
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