Re: KVM VM's disappeared

2012-07-10 Thread Todd And Margo Chester

On 07/09/2012 09:35 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Todd And Margo Chester
toddandma...@gmail.com wrote:


 The both of you called it.  It did not know I got
updated in the background.  I should have been suspicious
when my stink' flash-plugin mysteriously got updated.
Larry's pointing me to /var/log/yum.log was a
light bulb moment.

The following fixed my problem:

# yum downgrade libvirt  libvirt-client  libvirt-python
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit, security
Setting up Downgrade Process
18 packages excluded due to repository priority protections


You might also consider disabling SELinux, if the machine is behind
reasonable firewalls. SELinux has been a *disaster* in system
security, costing far more wasted productivity and engineering
resources than many of active worms or attack vectors of the Linux
world, most of which it does not really help with. (Bad PHP is bad
PHP, and SELinux does not necessarily help at all.)



You called that.  I had to turn selinux off ages ago as it
foo bars Samba.  Selinux is a good idea that never made it
to the practical phase.

And, I wrote/configured my own firewall: all things are illegal,
except those things that are legal.  It is really nasty.  You
want in or out, you have to have a rule.  Even troubleshoots
your network setup (won't work unless it sees what it wants).

-T


Re: KVM VM's disappeared

2012-07-10 Thread Natxo Asenjo
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:


 You might also consider disabling SELinux, if the machine is behind
 reasonable firewalls. SELinux has been a *disaster* in system
 security, costing far more wasted productivity and engineering
 resources than many of active worms or attack vectors of the Linux
 world, most of which it does not really help with. (Bad PHP is bad
 PHP, and SELinux does not necessarily help at all.)


 let's agree to disagree on this one :-)

I have not had major issues since ... fedora 8?

It is true that selinux is a new tool and thus not so well understood by
plenty of people, but I quite like it. It is quite simple once you take the
time to learn it (like everything in life) and we routinely deploy settings
from cfengine for it.

-- 
groet,
natxo


Re: KVM VM's disappeared

2012-07-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Natxo Asenjo natxo.ase...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:


 You might also consider disabling SELinux, if the machine is behind
 reasonable firewalls. SELinux has been a *disaster* in system
 security, costing far more wasted productivity and engineering
 resources than many of active worms or attack vectors of the Linux
 world, most of which it does not really help with. (Bad PHP is bad
 PHP, and SELinux does not necessarily help at all.)


  let's agree to disagree on this one :-)

It's a different subject, and could be worth some time. For some
reason, every Linux architect I've worked with, for over a decade, has
decided on their own, decide to try to re-invent the File System
Hierarchy from scratch. They each pick their own unique top level
directory and litter it with their own special layouts, They won't use
/usr/local, they won't use /opt, they fairly randomly re-assign
what would be /etc directory contents or locations of /log, and do
not get me *started* on all the various ways people lay out JBoss and
its components.

The results are predictably unfortunate interacting with SELinux. And
the system vulnerabilities are usually far greater from the we trust
the people we work with problems of storing passwords in clear text,
refusing to apply published patches, and refusing to sanitize inputs
for exposed services. (Obligatory xkcd cartoon, little Bobby Drop
Tables, http://xkcd.com/327/).

 I have not had major issues since ... fedora 8?

I have not had had notable issues since. last Thursday.

 It is true that selinux is a new tool and thus not so well understood by
 plenty of people, but I quite like it. It is quite simple once you take the
 time to learn it (like everything in life) and we routinely deploy settings
 from cfengine for it.

Unfortunately, I'm rarely in control of the deployment technology.:
I'm too far into operations land to get the developer's testing
environments to match production environments, and don't get me going
on the randomization of functionality when the Java programmers start
writing shell scripts.

Interestingly, at SVNday in Berlin (an interesting Subversion
conference), one company presented on completely relying on RPM for
configuration management. Apache configurations and their Subversion
source control integration to manage it. They included, locally built
service tools, SSH configurations, all were hardcoded config files
from RPM's that they could publish or replace on the fly. That could
provide a workable SELinux managed environment, since the necessary
''%post installation steps could be well defined.

 --
 groet,
 natxo




Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Freak Trick
I have Atheros Ethernet (On Board) which is not detected by the SL 6.2 
(Updated).

Ethernet Details:

[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# lspci | grep Ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit 
Ethernet (rev c0)


After looking up various internet resources, I came across: 
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx
The site has the required drivers. I am going as per the instructions mentioned 
to compile and install the drivers, however I get the following error: 


[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# make
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686/build 
M=/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
  CC [M]  /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o
In file included from 
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.h:55,
 from command-line:0:
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.35.h:27:
 error: static declaration of ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ follows non-static 
declaration
include/linux/interrupt.h:218: note: previous declaration of 
‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ was here
make[3]: *** 
[/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat] 
Error 2
make[1]: *** [_module_/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p] 
Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
make: *** [modules] Error 2

I would be thankful for any help provided in resolving the issue.


Thanks!


Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Mark Stodola

On 07/10/2012 07:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:

I have Atheros Ethernet (On Board) which is not detected by the SL 6.2
(Updated).

Ethernet Details:

[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# lspci | grep Ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0
Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)


After looking up various internet resources, I came across:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx
The site has the required drivers. I am going as per the instructions
mentioned to compile and install the drivers, however I get the
following error:

[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# make
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686/build
M=/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
CC [M] /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o
In file included from
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.h:55,
from command-line:0:
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.35.h:27:
error: static declaration of ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ follows non-static
declaration
include/linux/interrupt.h:218: note: previous declaration of
‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ was here
make[3]: ***
[/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o] Error 1
make[2]: ***
[/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat] Error 2
make[1]: ***
[_module_/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
make: *** [modules] Error 2

I would be thankful for any help provided in resolving the issue.

Thanks!


You might want to try the various atl drivers from ELrepo (elrepo.org). 
 They maintain current drivers for a lot of devices not generally 
supported by TUV.  I think you'll want kmod-atl2.  If you find that none 
of the ELrepo drivers work, it might be worth contacting them to get the 
correct one built and added to the repository.


-Mark

--
Mr. Mark V. Stodola
Senior Control Systems Engineer

National Electrostatics Corp.
P.O. Box 620310
Middleton, WI 53562-0310 USA
Phone: (608) 831-7600
Fax: (608) 831-9591


Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Phil Perry

On 10/07/12 14:17, Mark Stodola wrote:

On 07/10/2012 07:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:

I have Atheros Ethernet (On Board) which is not detected by the SL 6.2
(Updated).

Ethernet Details:

[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# lspci | grep Ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0
Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)


After looking up various internet resources, I came across:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx
The site has the required drivers. I am going as per the instructions
mentioned to compile and install the drivers, however I get the
following error:

[root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# make
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686/build
M=/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
CC [M] /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o
In file included from
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.h:55,

from command-line:0:
/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.35.h:27:

error: static declaration of ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ follows non-static
declaration
include/linux/interrupt.h:218: note: previous declaration of
‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ was here
make[3]: ***
[/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o]
Error 1
make[2]: ***
[/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat] Error 2
make[1]: ***
[_module_/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
make: *** [modules] Error 2

I would be thankful for any help provided in resolving the issue.

Thanks!


You might want to try the various atl drivers from ELrepo (elrepo.org).
They maintain current drivers for a lot of devices not generally
supported by TUV. I think you'll want kmod-atl2. If you find that none
of the ELrepo drivers work, it might be worth contacting them to get the
correct one built and added to the repository.

-Mark



I think the atl1c driver in kmod-compat-wireless might also support that 
device, but first we really need to see the vendor:device ID pairing to 
be able to advise further.


Please post the output from the following command (note this is on one 
line):


for BUSID in $(/sbin/lspci | awk '{ IGNORECASE=1 } /net/ { print $1 }'); 
do /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -m; /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -n; done


Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Freak Trick
Thanks Mr. Mark! Your reply helped. Although there was no package kmod-atl2 in 
the elrepo, however installing kmod-atl1e from the same repo has enabled the 
system to detect the ethernet.

Thanks, once again, for quick and effective response.



 From: Mark Stodola stod...@pelletron.com
To: Freak Trick trickfr...@ymail.com 
Cc: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless
 
On 07/10/2012 07:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:
 I have Atheros Ethernet (On Board) which is not detected by the SL 6.2
 (Updated).

 Ethernet Details:

 [root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# lspci | grep Ethernet
 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0
 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)


 After looking up various internet resources, I came across:
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx
 The site has the required drivers. I am going as per the instructions
 mentioned to compile and install the drivers, however I get the
 following error:

 [root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# make
 make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686/build
 M=/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
 CC [M] /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o
 In file included from
 /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.h:55,
 from command-line:0:
 /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.35.h:27:
 error: static declaration of ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ follows non-static
 declaration
 include/linux/interrupt.h:218: note: previous declaration of
 ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ was here
 make[3]: ***
 [/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o] Error 1
 make[2]: ***
 [/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat] Error 2
 make[1]: ***
 [_module_/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
 make: *** [modules] Error 2

 I would be thankful for any help provided in resolving the issue.

 Thanks!

You might want to try the various atl drivers from ELrepo (elrepo.org). 
  They maintain current drivers for a lot of devices not generally 
supported by TUV.  I think you'll want kmod-atl2.  If you find that none 
of the ELrepo drivers work, it might be worth contacting them to get the 
correct one built and added to the repository.

-Mark

-- 
Mr. Mark V. Stodola
Senior Control Systems Engineer

National Electrostatics Corp.
P.O. Box 620310
Middleton, WI 53562-0310 USA
Phone: (608) 831-7600
Fax: (608) 831-9591

Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Freak Trick
Hi Phil,

As I noted in my earlier mail, the problem was resolved by installing atl1e 
driver from elrepo. Also, before that I had already tried with atl1c but it did 
not work.  


Just in case if you do require (for curiosity or better solution) here is the 
output from the command offered by yourself:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0 
Gigabit Ethernet -rc0 Giga-byte Technology Device e000
03:01.0 Network controller Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg -r01 
Linksys WMP54G 2.0 PCI Adapter



Thanks for your reply!




 From: Phil Perry p...@pendre.co.uk
To: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless
 
On 10/07/12 14:17, Mark Stodola wrote:
 On 07/10/2012 07:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:
 I have Atheros Ethernet (On Board) which is not detected by the SL 6.2
 (Updated).

 Ethernet Details:

 [root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# lspci | grep Ethernet
 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0
 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)


 After looking up various internet resources, I came across:
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx
 The site has the required drivers. I am going as per the instructions
 mentioned to compile and install the drivers, however I get the
 following error:

 [root@localhost compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p]# make
 make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686/build
 M=/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
 CC [M] /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o
 In file included from
 /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.h:55,

 from command-line:0:
 /home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/include/linux/compat-2.6.35.h:27:

 error: static declaration of ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ follows non-static
 declaration
 include/linux/interrupt.h:218: note: previous declaration of
 ‘irq_set_affinity_hint’ was here
 make[3]: ***
 [/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat/main.o]
 Error 1
 make[2]: ***
 [/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p/compat] Error 2
 make[1]: ***
 [_module_/home/sunhost/Downloads/compat-wireless-2012-03-12-p] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-220.23.1.el6.i686'
 make: *** [modules] Error 2

 I would be thankful for any help provided in resolving the issue.

 Thanks!

 You might want to try the various atl drivers from ELrepo (elrepo.org).
 They maintain current drivers for a lot of devices not generally
 supported by TUV. I think you'll want kmod-atl2. If you find that none
 of the ELrepo drivers work, it might be worth contacting them to get the
 correct one built and added to the repository.

 -Mark


I think the atl1c driver in kmod-compat-wireless might also support that 
device, but first we really need to see the vendor:device ID pairing to 
be able to advise further.

Please post the output from the following command (note this is on one 
line):

for BUSID in $(/sbin/lspci | awk '{ IGNORECASE=1 } /net/ { print $1 }'); 
do /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -m; /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -n; done

Re: Error with 'irq_set_affinity_hint' while compiling compat-wireless

2012-07-10 Thread Phil Perry

On 10/07/12 15:40, Freak Trick wrote:

Hi Phil,

As I noted in my earlier mail, the problem was resolved by installing atl1e 
driver from elrepo. Also, before that I had already tried with atl1c but it did 
not work.




Great, if that driver works then that is definitely the preferred driver 
for you and you can disregard my earlier suggestion :-)



Just in case if you do require (for curiosity or better solution) here is the 
output from the command offered by yourself:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller Atheros Communications Inc. AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet -rc0 
Giga-byte Technology Device e000
03:01.0 Network controller Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg -r01 Linksys 
WMP54G 2.0 PCI Adapter



Thanks for your reply!



Re: how do I disable background updates?

2012-07-10 Thread Todd And Margo Chester

On 07/09/2012 11:26 PM, Artifex Maximus wrote:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Todd And Margo Chester
toddandma...@gmail.com wrote:

How do I turn off these background updates?



From the header of file /etc/init.d/yum-autoupdate:


Turn off
service yum-autoupdate stop
chkconfig --del yum-autoupdate

Bye,
a



Hi Artifex,

RPM says yum-autoupdate is installed:

$ rpm -qa \*yum-auto\*
yum-autoupdate-2-4.2.noarch

But, it is not in init.d

$ ls /etc/rc.d/init.d | grep -i auto
$

Anyway, disabling it in /etc/init.d/yum-autoupdate
seems to have done the trick.  My VM are still
here this morning and flash-plugin is still
on the prior version.

Thank you for the help,
-T


libvirt 0.9.10

2012-07-10 Thread Steven Timm

A couple of e-mail threads over the weekend mentioned libvirt 0.9.10
having been pushed out as a yum update for SL6.  I did not
see any errata notice come out, nor have I seen such an update
available yet in yum?  could it be that it was released for SL but
not yet for SLF?  If it was released for either, which version? (6.1, 
6.2,6.3?)


Steve Timm


--
Steven C. Timm, Ph.D  (630) 840-8525
t...@fnal.gov  http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/
Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities,
Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Group Leader.
Lead of FermiCloud project.


Re: libvirt 0.9.10

2012-07-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
It's in the testing repository right now.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Steven Timm t...@fnal.gov wrote:
 A couple of e-mail threads over the weekend mentioned libvirt 0.9.10
 having been pushed out as a yum update for SL6.  I did not
 see any errata notice come out, nor have I seen such an update
 available yet in yum?  could it be that it was released for SL but
 not yet for SLF?  If it was released for either, which version? (6.1,
 6.2,6.3?)

 Steve Timm


 --
 Steven C. Timm, Ph.D  (630) 840-8525
 t...@fnal.gov  http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/
 Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities,
 Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Group Leader.
 Lead of FermiCloud project.


Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
A particular client's mirror of CentOS exploded today with the
unannounced CentOS 6.3 release. Congratulations to them for such quick
work: is there a nominal release date for SL 6.3, so I can make sure
to allocate disk space?

I've actually got a mock setup, running SL 6.2, chewing its way
through all the upstream vendor's 6.3 SRPM's for my knowledge and
education. (Also, I publish Subversion and BIND updated SRPM tools
over at www.github.com/nkadel/ and want to test them with new
environments.


Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-10 Thread Steven Haigh

On 11/07/2012 10:49 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 A particular client's mirror of CentOS exploded today with the
 unannounced CentOS 6.3 release. Congratulations to them for such quick
 work: is there a nominal release date for SL 6.3, so I can make sure
 to allocate disk space?

What is it with people thinking that CentOS is some kind of competition 
for SL or RHEL?


Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it.

SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they 
have with each other point release.


--
Steven Haigh

Email: net...@crc.id.au
Web: http://www.crc.id.au
Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897
Fax: (03) 8338 0299


Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-10 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote:
 On 11/07/2012 10:49 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 A particular client's mirror of CentOS exploded today with the
 unannounced CentOS 6.3 release. Congratulations to them for such quick
 work: is there a nominal release date for SL 6.3, so I can make sure
 to allocate disk space?

 What is it with people thinking that CentOS is some kind of competition for
 SL or RHEL?

 Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it.

 SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they have
 with each other point release.

Indeed. I hate to repeatedly quote my old post, but as far as there
are people who say beat, I feel like doing it :)

http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1201L=scientific-linux-usersT=0P=17067

Akemi


Re: Looks like CentOS beat SL to 6.3 release

2012-07-10 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 11 July 2012 02:10, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote:
 On 11/07/2012 10:49 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 A particular client's mirror of CentOS exploded today with the
 unannounced CentOS 6.3 release. Congratulations to them for such quick
 work: is there a nominal release date for SL 6.3, so I can make sure
 to allocate disk space?

 What is it with people thinking that CentOS is some kind of competition for
 SL or RHEL?

 Sure, CentOS do things differently. If it compiles, ship it.

 SL will more than likely do a Beta, RC, then release - just like they have
 with each other point release.

 Indeed. I hate to repeatedly quote my old post, but as far as there
 are people who say beat, I feel like doing it :)

 http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1201L=scientific-linux-usersT=0P=17067

 Akemi

Furthermore, the release of CentOS 6.3 was not unannounced.

For the record, here is the official announcement --

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2012-July/018706.html

Alan.