Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
But there is a Sender header containing
"owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov".
{^_^} Joanne
On 2011/03/25 12:31, James M Pulver wrote:
Though I don't actually see a List-ID header for these . . .
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James Pulver
Information Technology Area Supervisor
LEPP Computer Group
Cornell University
-Original Message-
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
[mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of James M
Pulver
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:29 PM
To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov
Subject: RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
There should be two things you could filter on. One should be the:
List-Id header is an Internet standard (RFC 2919 RFC 2369)
The one I use however is just to match "sent" for:
SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@listserv.fnal.gov; scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
And move to the folder.
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James Pulver
Information Technology Area Supervisor
LEPP Computer Group
Cornell University
-Original Message-
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
[mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of William
Scott
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:17 PM
To: Troy Dawson
Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
How do you people filter mailing list messages?
I'm using Gmail apps and there appears to be nothing common to each
message that I can filter on.
William.
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
William Scott writes: > How do you people filter mailing list messages? Procmail. For this and other FNAL lists I use this recipe: :0 * ^Sender: .*@listserv.fnal.gov * ^Sender: owner-\/[^@]+ $MAILDIR/.fnal.lists.$MATCH/ -Brett. pgpD7ySR4OCUx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:17 PM, William Scott wrote: > > How do you people filter mailing list messages? > > I'm using Gmail apps and there appears to be nothing common to each > message that I can filter on. I filter and apply a label using a rule to match "scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov OR scientific-linux-users@listserv.fnal.gov" in the "To" field. The "To" field catches cc's to those email addresses, as in your email.
RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, James M Pulver wrote: Though I don't actually see a List-ID header for these . . . It is running listserv so I think it adds various List-... headers. Personally I filter on the Return-path (ie the envelope sender) but not all mail systems make that particularly easy... -- Jon -- /\ | "Computers are different from telephones. Computers do not ring." | | -- A. Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks", p. 32 | -| | Jon Peatfield, _Computer_ Officer, DAMTP, University of Cambridge | | Mail: jp...@damtp.cam.ac.uk Web: http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/ | \/
RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
Though I don't actually see a List-ID header for these . . . -- James Pulver Information Technology Area Supervisor LEPP Computer Group Cornell University -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of James M Pulver Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:29 PM To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov Subject: RE: forum for Scientific Linux users There should be two things you could filter on. One should be the: List-Id header is an Internet standard (RFC 2919 RFC 2369) The one I use however is just to match "sent" for: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@listserv.fnal.gov; scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov And move to the folder. -- James Pulver Information Technology Area Supervisor LEPP Computer Group Cornell University -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of William Scott Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:17 PM To: Troy Dawson Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov Subject: Re: forum for Scientific Linux users How do you people filter mailing list messages? I'm using Gmail apps and there appears to be nothing common to each message that I can filter on. William.
RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
There should be two things you could filter on. One should be the: List-Id header is an Internet standard (RFC 2919 RFC 2369) The one I use however is just to match "sent" for: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@listserv.fnal.gov; scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov And move to the folder. -- James Pulver Information Technology Area Supervisor LEPP Computer Group Cornell University -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of William Scott Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:17 PM To: Troy Dawson Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov Subject: Re: forum for Scientific Linux users How do you people filter mailing list messages? I'm using Gmail apps and there appears to be nothing common to each message that I can filter on. William.
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
How do you people filter mailing list messages? I'm using Gmail apps and there appears to be nothing common to each message that I can filter on. William.
RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
http://siteinspector.comodo.com/public/reports/8333 At least according to Comodo, the site is clean . . . -- James Pulver Information Technology Area Supervisor LEPP Computer Group Cornell University From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of john h outlan Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 2:28 PM To: Konstantin Olchanski Cc: Troy Dawson; SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov; n...@li.nux.ro Subject: Re: forum for Scientific Linux users On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Konstantin Olchanski mailto:olcha...@triumf.ca>> wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM -0400, john h outlan wrote: > http://scientificlinux.proboards.com The forum is slow to load and contains some kind of spyware from http://cdn.insights.gravity.com/moth_v1.swf. Personally, I would not use it. Good luck building a community around it. -- Konstantin Olchanski that's what browser extensions are for, to block that crap. You're the only one to say it loads slow. In all seriousness, it loads fast for me. Even the downloads are much faster than, say, rpmfind.net<http://rpmfind.net> or rpmfusion.org<http://rpmfusion.org>. The last couple of posts re this on this list is precisely why some of us want an alternative format. I was weaned on mail-lists in the early 90's, but have grown to appreciate the usability of a web format over the years. To each his own.
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM -0400, john h outlan wrote: > > http://scientificlinux.proboards.com > > > The forum is slow to load and contains some kind of spyware > from http://cdn.insights.gravity.com/moth_v1.swf. > > Personally, I would not use it. > > Good luck building a community around it. > > > -- > Konstantin Olchanski > > that's what browser extensions are for, to block that crap. You're the only one to say it loads slow. In all seriousness, it loads fast for me. Even the downloads are much faster than, say, rpmfind.net or rpmfusion.org. The last couple of posts re this on this list is precisely why some of us want an alternative format. I was weaned on mail-lists in the early 90's, but have grown to appreciate the usability of a web format over the years. To each his own.
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
The "spyware" site, cdn.insights.gravity.com, is at an alias of a1093.g.akamai.net. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies. I could be wrong, but I'll bet it's not really spyware, but is a legitimate attempt to speed up the slow loading about which Konstantin complained. Steven Yellin On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM -0400, john h outlan wrote: http://scientificlinux.proboards.com The forum is slow to load and contains some kind of spyware from http://cdn.insights.gravity.com/moth_v1.swf. Personally, I would not use it. Good luck building a community around it. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM -0400, john h outlan wrote: > http://scientificlinux.proboards.com The forum is slow to load and contains some kind of spyware from http://cdn.insights.gravity.com/moth_v1.swf. Personally, I would not use it. Good luck building a community around it. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Mar 25, 2011 12:00 PM, wrote: > john h outlan writes: > >> « HTML content follows » >> >> Hi Troy. I sent you an email about a link to our proboard sl forums. Hope >> you got it. I can assure everyone the forum isn't going to go anywhere >> because I'm the one that started it. I've known the mods for years and >> they won't vanish either :) I love this mail list, but this just gives us >> an alternative for those that like web forums. The first announcement I >> made of the forum was on this mail list looking for mods. Our own spoovy >> volunteered. One of the other mods I've known for years is from Czech >> Republic and is a RHEL certified engineer. Hope to see some of you there, >> but we all will continue to monitor this official mail list of course. >> >> Thanks > > Can you guarantee the proboards company won't take down your forum? Or the > company won't go bankrupt and the domain will go to some SEO freak? :) > If you are serious about this effort then imho you could at least tried to > get a dedicated domain name. > Just saying.. > > -- > Nux! > www.nux.ro > If you're saying that myself, and the other people on the forum aren't serious about it, then you are out of line imo. Changing the domain is, and has been under consideration. Remember, the forum is basically just a Q and A session relating to desktop/workstation users' problems, primarily. This is the official channel for announcements and what-not, so i don't see that _any_ community splitting is going on whatsoever. Expansion, yes. Problems could be duplicated, yes...but I think if I started forwarding forum posts here, there would be quite a stir over it. Clint: Life has no guarantees; especially in the linux community :)
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
john h outlan writes: « HTML content follows » Hi Troy. I sent you an email about a link to our proboard sl forums. Hope you got it. I can assure everyone the forum isn't going to go anywhere because I'm the one that started it. I've known the mods for years and they won't vanish either :) I love this mail list, but this just gives us an alternative for those that like web forums. The first announcement I made of the forum was on this mail list looking for mods. Our own spoovy volunteered. One of the other mods I've known for years is from Czech Republic and is a RHEL certified engineer. Hope to see some of you there, but we all will continue to monitor this official mail list of course. Thanks Can you guarantee the proboards company won't take down your forum? Or the company won't go bankrupt and the domain will go to some SEO freak? :) If you are serious about this effort then imho you could at least tried to get a dedicated domain name. Just saying.. -- Nux! www.nux.ro
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
So how do those who prefer mail lists see the material posted on the forum? If that material isn't automatically forwarded to the appropriate mail list, a large portion of the community will be unaware of important topics. It would seem that the forum would be much the poorer without their contributions. Clint -- Clint BowmanINTERNET: cl...@ecy.wa.gov Air Quality Modeler INTERNET: cl...@math.utah.edu Department of Ecology VOICE: (360) 407-6815 PO Box 47600FAX:(360) 407-7534 Olympia, WA 98504-7600 USPS: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600 Parcels:300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503-1274 On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, john h outlan wrote: On Mar 25, 2011 10:20 AM, "Troy Dawson" wrote: On 03/25/2011 09:02 AM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Kevin Thomas writes: « HTML content follows » I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer web forums to mail lists (like me). The url ishttp://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?> http://scientificli nux.proboards.com/index.cgi? Kevin Maybe it would be interesting to have some official forums under scientificlinux.org domain name; these proboard things, they come and go. My 2p -- Nux! www.nux.ro We currently cannot have forum's on the official www.scientificlinux.orgsites. This is due to the login restrictions that we currently are under. This issue is currently being looked at, but is a lower priority than a few other items. Troy Dawson -- __ Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/SCF/FEF/SLSMS Group __ Hi Troy. I sent you an email about a link to our proboard sl forums. Hope you got it. I can assure everyone the forum isn't going to go anywhere because I'm the one that started it. I've known the mods for years and they won't vanish either :) I love this mail list, but this just gives us an alternative for those that like web forums. The first announcement I made of the forum was on this mail list looking for mods. Our own spoovy volunteered. One of the other mods I've known for years is from Czech Republic and is a RHEL certified engineer. Hope to see some of you there, but we all will continue to monitor this official mail list of course. Thanks
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On Mar 25, 2011 10:20 AM, "Troy Dawson" wrote: > > On 03/25/2011 09:02 AM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: >> >> Kevin Thomas writes: >> >>> « HTML content follows » >>> I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), >>> but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created >>> fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer >>> web forums to mail lists (like me). The url >>> ishttp://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?> http://scientificli >>> nux.proboards.com/index.cgi? >>> >>> >>> Kevin >> >> >> Maybe it would be interesting to have some official forums under >> scientificlinux.org domain name; these proboard things, they come and >> go. >> >> My 2p >> >> -- >> Nux! >> www.nux.ro > > > We currently cannot have forum's on the official > www.scientificlinux.orgsites. This is due to the login restrictions that we > currently are under. This issue is currently being looked at, but is a lower priority than a few other items. > > Troy Dawson > -- > __ > Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 > Fermilab ComputingDivision/SCF/FEF/SLSMS Group > __ Hi Troy. I sent you an email about a link to our proboard sl forums. Hope you got it. I can assure everyone the forum isn't going to go anywhere because I'm the one that started it. I've known the mods for years and they won't vanish either :) I love this mail list, but this just gives us an alternative for those that like web forums. The first announcement I made of the forum was on this mail list looking for mods. Our own spoovy volunteered. One of the other mods I've known for years is from Czech Republic and is a RHEL certified engineer. Hope to see some of you there, but we all will continue to monitor this official mail list of course. Thanks
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On 3/25/11 11:01 AM, James M Pulver wrote: I honestly prefer mailing lists or NNTP I agree for the most part but my resistance to BBS aka Forums, is I don't need yet another login to deal with, if they don't support OpenID, I just don't want to care. :( -- << MCT>>Michael C Tiernan MIT - Laboratory for Nuclear Science - http://www.lns.mit.edu High Perf Research Computing Facility at The Bates Linear Accelerator xmpp:mtier...@mit.edu skype:mtiernan-mitcms +1 (617) 324-9173
RE: forum for Scientific Linux users
I honestly prefer mailing lists or NNTP as forums each require a different place to go to see if there are updates, or else there's constant getting an e-mail notice, which doesn't actually let you know what was posted so then you have to click through, and log in to post a reply. Even in the best case, like the Zenoss forums with a mail bridge, there's often buggyness or complexities that aren't needed with a mailing list or NNTP... -- James Pulver Information Technology Area Supervisor LEPP Computer Group Cornell University -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:51 AM To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: forum for Scientific Linux users Could a separate domain, such as forums.scientificlinux.org, be hosted on a separate server, perhaps off-site, in order to preserve the current security protocols? -- Jon Ruth Kent, Ohio On 25 Mar 2011 at 9:20, Troy Dawson wrote: > We currently cannot have forum's on the official > www.scientificlinux.org sites. This is due to the login > restrictions that we currently are under. This issue is > currently being looked at, but is a lower priority > than a few other items. > > Troy Dawson
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
Could a separate domain, such as forums.scientificlinux.org, be hosted on a separate server, perhaps off-site, in order to preserve the current security protocols? -- Jon Ruth Kent, Ohio On 25 Mar 2011 at 9:20, Troy Dawson wrote: > We currently cannot have forum's on the official > www.scientificlinux.org sites. This is due to the login > restrictions that we currently are under. This issue is > currently being looked at, but is a lower priority > than a few other items. > > Troy Dawson
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
On 03/25/2011 09:02 AM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Kevin Thomas writes: « HTML content follows » I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer web forums to mail lists (like me). The url ishttp://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?>http://scientificli nux.proboards.com/index.cgi? Kevin Maybe it would be interesting to have some official forums under scientificlinux.org domain name; these proboard things, they come and go. My 2p -- Nux! www.nux.ro We currently cannot have forum's on the official www.scientificlinux.org sites. This is due to the login restrictions that we currently are under. This issue is currently being looked at, but is a lower priority than a few other items. Troy Dawson -- __ Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/SCF/FEF/SLSMS Group __
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Kevin Thomas writes: « HTML content follows » I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer web forums to mail lists (like me). The url is http://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?>http://scientificli nux.proboards.com/index.cgi? Kevin Maybe it would be interesting to have some official forums under scientificlinux.org domain name; these proboard things, they come and go. My 2p -- Nux! www.nux.ro My biggest complaint with web forums is the volume of spam that seems to get through, no matter how hard you work against it. I don't think that is something Connie, Troy, and company want eating up their time. The mailing list is indexed and searchable on the website already. I'm not trying to dissuade, just putting an alternate perspective on it. -Mark -- Mr. Mark V. Stodola Digital Systems Engineer National Electrostatics Corp. P.O. Box 620310 Middleton, WI 53562-0310 USA Phone: (608) 831-7600 Fax: (608) 831-9591
Re: forum for Scientific Linux users
Kevin Thomas writes: « HTML content follows » I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer web forums to mail lists (like me). The url is http://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?>http://scientificli nux.proboards.com/index.cgi? Kevin Maybe it would be interesting to have some official forums under scientificlinux.org domain name; these proboard things, they come and go. My 2p -- Nux! www.nux.ro
forum for Scientific Linux users
I don't know if everyone was aware of this (I just found out yesterday), but there is a forum for Scientific Linux. It looks like it was created fairly recently. I just wanted to bring it up in case some of you prefer web forums to mail lists (like me). The url is http://scientificlinux.proboards.com/index.cgi? Kevin
