[scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system
ahar...@earthlink.net Cool science stuff. - Original Message - From: World Science To: emailn...@world-science.net Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system * For healthy mental aging, brain games may fill in for schooling: People with less education can avoid the increased risk of memory loss, a study suggests. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100112_brain * Distant solar system forming from mysterious dust, scientists say: A far-off solar system seems to be forming from a strange dust whose makeup is unlike that of our and other solar systems. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100111_dust * Baby temperament found to predict adult brain structure: Four-month-old infants' temperament predicts some aspects of their brain structure at age 18, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100109_brain * Punisher of the seas is a little finned janitor: For small fish known as cleaner wrasse, stepping into the line of fire reaps huge rewards, according to a new study. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_punisher * Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry: A hitherto undiscovered order can be found in solid matter at very small scales, physicists are reporting. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_goldenratio * Hubble reveals uncharted cosmic zone: The space telescope has uncovered a primordial population of small, ultra-blue galaxies, according to astronomers. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100105_galaxies * Lifeless molecules found to evolve, adapt: Prions -- infectious molecules that cause fatal brain diseases -- can evolve in a Darwinian fashion, biologists say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100101_prions * Mosquito lovers sing in harmony: The insects responsible for the most malaria deaths find mates by using their wingbeats to produce tones that agree, a study reports. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091231_mosquito * Power promotes hypocrisy: study: Behind 2009's scandal-ridden headlines lies a deeper psychological pattern, researchers claim. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091229_hypocrisy World Science homepage Don't forget to visit our homepage for Science In Images; links to top science news from other publi- cations; and other recent World Science stories! http://www.world-science.net World Science archives To new readers especially: you need not miss our ex- citing past stories, though they won't appear in future newsletters. See archives for any year by typing that year after the homepage address: for example, http://www.world-science.net/2007 Invite friends to join World Science! Click here to open an invitation email you can send friends and colleagues so they can join you in sub- scribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) More information This is the World Science newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. To subscribe, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. To change the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any World Science article may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Yeah, I remain troubled by that. The attitude If you can afford it and want to improve your looks, why not? doesn't address the underlying problem of why people think their native looks are unattractive. Asian women cutting the epicanthic folds is bad enough. Saddest of all to me is that the number of Latina and Black women in this country getting plastic surgery is going up. I listened to two plastic surgeons on NPR discuss it recently. For most people of color here, the thing seems to be making the nose narrower--kinda look the foolishness Janet Jackson did to her nose, which complemented her face much more in its original state. There's lots of reasons why corrective plastic surgery is necessary, but for reasons like this, it's an issue in which we need to teach our children to love themselves and their full lips, narrow eyes, dark skin, curly hair, broad noses, round butts, big legs--whatever. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:16:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:32:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink They are also good at casting people of color with little or no thought to their ethnicity. I really like that From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more comfortable and organic in putting black and white couples together than Americans. how many IR couples has Dr. Who shown? I remember the movie Love Actually, Keira Knightley's character married Chewotel Edjifor (sp) and it was no biggie. Donna was engaged to a black man when introduce, and married another when Tennant took his leave. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re:
[scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Oh yeah...Hey, Keith! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
I don't understand why people want to look like everyone else. I LOVE exotic looks. Why do people think being different is unattractive? I honestly tend to prefer those who are unconventionally attractive, mostly because of personality/intelligence/how they carry themselves. A shame that people feel the need to do such crazy shit. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, I remain troubled by that. The attitude If you can afford it and want to improve your looks, why not? doesn't address the underlying problem of why people think their native looks are unattractive. Asian women cutting the epicanthic folds is bad enough. Saddest of all to me is that the number of Latina and Black women in this country getting plastic surgery is going up. I listened to two plastic surgeons on NPR discuss it recently. For most people of color here, the thing seems to be making the nose narrower--kinda look the foolishness Janet Jackson did to her nose, which complemented her face much more in its original state. There's lots of reasons why corrective plastic surgery is necessary, but for reasons like this, it's an issue in which we need to teach our children to love themselves and their full lips, narrow eyes, dark skin, curly hair, broad noses, round butts, big legs--whatever. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:16:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:32:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink They are also good at casting people of color with little or no thought to their ethnicity. I really like that *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR
Darn...Worf beat me to the punch! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:07:28 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR All of the artwork that we see are artistic interpretations. The blond Jesus came from artwork done by people that had never been to the middle east. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: So how did Jesus turn BLOND?!?!?”! God I hate that church. It is a religion in which there is no place for truth From:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:22 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR The 13th tribe, John the Baptist, Jesus and Mary, etc. The Russians and Eastern Europeans have many paintings and works of art that are of a black Jesus. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: You mean, like the supposed picture or statue showing Mary and Jesus as being of African descent? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:45:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR I agree. Another thing that I have been curious about is all of the documentation that they have hidden away in the basement of the Vatican. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com wrote: Because they ceased to be about true spirituality years ago, if they ever *WERE* into such a thing. Nowadays it's just having and securing power over their flock of sheep. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:54 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: The sad thing is that the Vatican seems threatened that so many people take comfort in the movie's message(reverence for nature, live in harmony with the world and not in dominion over it, etc.) They are as bad as the climate change deniers that think nothing man does can harm this world despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Back at ya J From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of C.W. Badie Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:16 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Hi Tracey... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 3:14:29 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Amen!!! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:53 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR That settles it. Avatar RULES! :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur mailto:tdli...@... aladvantage. com wrote: From: Cinque [mailto:cinque3...@verizon. mailto:cinque3...@... net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:06 PM To: 'Zanfordino Anthony'; williamsfred@ speakeasy. net mailto:williamsf...@... ; 'Whitney J Evans'; 'Wendell Theophilus Smith'; 'Valery Jean'; 'Seku Brathwaite'; rs...@yahoo. com mailto:rs...@... ; 'ravenadal'; michael.v.w. mailto:michael.v.w. gor...@... gor...@gmail. com; 'Michael Gordon'; 'Marvalous'; 'Martin Baxter'; 'Logic'; 'Leroy Hughes'; 'Kera'; keithbjohnson@ comcast.net mailto:keithbjohn...@... ; kalpub...@aol. com mailto:kalpub...@... ; 'Kai Pettaway'; 'Jeffrey Ballou'; 'GTW'; fis...@bellsouth. net mailto:fis...@... ; duva...@hotmail. com mailto:duva...@... ; dorothyhamm@ sbcglobal. mailto:dorothyh...@... net; bettil...@msn. com mailto:bettil...@...
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
In Brazil women are putting their plastic surgeries on layaway. Even Oprah did a show on this topic but there needs to be a bigger dialog. Much bigger. There are so many people getting plastic surgery that it is hard to tell what is natural anymore. Countries like Iran has thousands of people getting their nose done. Its also hip to wear the bandages as if you had surgery as well. Good hair was just a minor detour. It prompted a few women to go natural but they are in the minority. Untold billions are being made on the insecurities of black women. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, I remain troubled by that. The attitude If you can afford it and want to improve your looks, why not? doesn't address the underlying problem of why people think their native looks are unattractive. Asian women cutting the epicanthic folds is bad enough. Saddest of all to me is that the number of Latina and Black women in this country getting plastic surgery is going up. I listened to two plastic surgeons on NPR discuss it recently. For most people of color here, the thing seems to be making the nose narrower--kinda look the foolishness Janet Jackson did to her nose, which complemented her face much more in its original state. There's lots of reasons why corrective plastic surgery is necessary, but for reasons like this, it's an issue in which we need to teach our children to love themselves and their full lips, narrow eyes, dark skin, curly hair, broad noses, round butts, big legs--whatever. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:16:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:32:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink They are also good at casting people of color with little or no thought to their ethnicity. I really like that *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR
Then what better thing to put your faith in but the Truth? It is incorruptible (unless you manipulate it, so don't), impeachable, and forever evolving...What better premise to base a religion on. However, the best way for it to work is for the participants to only accept hard evidence...uh oh, there goes faith... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 11:45:04 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR So how did Jesus turn BLOND?!?!?”! God I hate that church. It is a religion in which there is no place for truth From:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:22 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR The 13th tribe, John the Baptist, Jesus and Mary, etc. The Russians and Eastern Europeans have many paintings and works of art that are of a black Jesus. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: You mean, like the supposed picture or statue showing Mary and Jesus as being of African descent? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:45:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR I agree. Another thing that I have been curious about is all of the documentation that they have hidden away in the basement of the Vatican. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com wrote: Because they ceased to be about true spirituality years ago, if they ever *WERE* into such a thing. Nowadays it's just having and securing power over their flock of sheep. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:54 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: The sad thing is that the Vatican seems threatened that so many people take comfort in the movie's message(reverence for nature, live in harmony with the world and not in dominion over it, etc.) They are as bad as the climate change deniers that think nothing man does can harm this world despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Back at ya J From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of C.W. Badie Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:16 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Hi Tracey... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 3:14:29 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Amen!!! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:53 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR That settles it. Avatar RULES! :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur mailto:tdli...@... aladvantage. com wrote: From: Cinque [mailto:cinque3...@verizon. mailto:cinque3...@... net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:06 PM To: 'Zanfordino Anthony'; williamsfred@ speakeasy. net mailto:williamsf...@... ; 'Whitney J Evans'; 'Wendell Theophilus Smith'; 'Valery Jean'; 'Seku Brathwaite'; rs...@yahoo. com mailto:rs...@... ; 'ravenadal'; michael.v.w. mailto:michael.v.w. gor...@... gor...@gmail. com; 'Michael Gordon'; 'Marvalous'; 'Martin Baxter'; 'Logic'; 'Leroy Hughes'; 'Kera'; keithbjohnson@ comcast.net mailto:keithbjohn...@... ; kalpub...@aol. com mailto:kalpub...@... ; 'Kai Pettaway'; 'Jeffrey Ballou'; 'GTW'; fis...@bellsouth. net mailto:fis...@... ; duva...@hotmail. com mailto:duva...@... ; dorothyhamm@ sbcglobal. mailto:dorothyh...@...
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
It's pleasant and fun, not too taxing, not too serious. Perfect to just have a good time. Not like Southland, which is very grim, but good. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Hey man, how you doing?! - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:49:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Oh yeah...Hey, Keith! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica?
The Plan came off more like a black comedy based on BSG than anything else... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:07:37 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? I was confused on how the skinjob Cylons figured into it. Reading the wiki cleared it up for me. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: The first show will explain how the Cylons were created. It is 58 years before the 2nd Cylon war. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, B Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote: I've seen Caprica and it was interesting but I'm a bit confused by the timeline and how it fits. Maybe the events Caprica lead to differences in the Centurion style Cylons. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ wrote: Mr. Worf, I watched BSG: The Plan, and I was impressed. More so of how the Cylon modelsexcept for model number 1, all decided that the extermination of the human was morally wrong. thought that that was extremely interesting. Have not seen Caprica yet, but I am waiting on the premiere next week. Dr. Fate --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ Subject: [scifinoir2] Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26 AM  Just wondering. Both were on tv recently. BSG: The Plan is a replay of the initial Cylon attack that wiped out humanity(?) from the Cylon point of view. It is interesting to do a rewind to see the story behind the scenes. Caprica rewinds the story even farther back to about 58 years before the war with the Cylons began. It also covers the origin of the Cylons. The big difference is that the storyline is more along the lines of an Earth based drama. They are replaying the pilot episode on 1/22. Here is more info on the show: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Caprica_% 28TV_series% 29 Its also on comscum on demand. Has anyone else watched these two shows? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica?
Yea I guess from #1's point of view yes. Even some of the other #1s had
problems focusing. I would like to see a complete version where they splice
in all of the plan into the series. It would be interesting to watch but
take away from the suspense. I was just fascinated that they had shot so
much extra material. There was also the webisodes that were done as well.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:52 AM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote:
The Plan came off more like a black comedy based on BSG than anything
else...
Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie
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*From:* B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
*To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tue, January 12, 2010 2:07:37 PM
*Subject:* [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica?
I was confused on how the skinjob Cylons figured into it. Reading the wiki
cleared it up for me.
--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote:
The first show will explain how the Cylons were created. It is 58 years
before the 2nd Cylon war.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, B Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote:
I've seen Caprica and it was interesting but I'm a bit confused by the
timeline and how it fits. Maybe the events Caprica lead to differences
in
the Centurion style Cylons.
--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
wrote:
Mr. Worf,
I watched BSG: The Plan, and I was impressed. More so of how the
Cylon modelsexcept for model number 1, all decided that the
extermination of the human was morally wrong. thought that that was
extremely interesting. Have not seen Caprica yet, but I am waiting on
the
premiere next week.
Dr. Fate
--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote:
From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
Subject: [scifinoir2] Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica?
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26 AM
Â
Just wondering. Both were on tv recently. BSG: The Plan is a replay
of the initial Cylon attack that wiped out humanity(?) from the Cylon
point
of view. It is interesting to do a rewind to see the story behind the
scenes.
Caprica rewinds the story even farther back to about 58 years before
the
war with the Cylons began. It also covers the origin of the Cylons. The
big
difference is that the storyline is more along the lines of an Earth
based
drama. They are replaying the pilot episode on 1/22. Here is more info
on
the show: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Caprica_% 28TV_series% 29
Its also on comscum on demand.
Has anyone else watched these two shows?
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Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Doing okay...my comp's still out because I'm trying to get my biz off the ground...doing remodeling and repair on the carpetry side of the house...doing my first woodworking project also; a tv/magazine stand for my uncle's dental office...Will post pics on my MySpace site. Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:30 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Hey man, how you doing?! - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:49:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Oh yeah...Hey, Keith! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Gosh...I might have to invest in a decent DVR too... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT It's pleasant and fun, not too taxing, not too serious. Perfect to just have a good time. Not like Southland, which is very grim, but good. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system
That's just the light bouncing off of the unobtainium. :) On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Amy Harlib ahar...@earthlink.net wrote: ahar...@earthlink.net Cool science stuff. - Original Message - *From:* World Science emailn...@world-science.net *To:* emailn...@world-science.net *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 PM *Subject:* World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system * *For healthy mental aging, brain games may fill in for schooling*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100112_brain : People with less education can avoid the increased risk of memory loss, a study suggests. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100112_brain * *Distant solar system forming from mysterious dust, scientists say* http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100111_dust : A far-off solar system seems to be forming from a strange dust whose makeup is unlike that of our and other solar systems. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100111_dust * *Baby temperament found to predict adult brain structure* http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100109_brain: Four-month-old infants' temperament predicts some aspects of their brain structure at age 18, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100109_brain * *Punisher of the seas is a little finned janitor*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_punisher : For small fish known as cleaner wrasse, stepping into the line of fire reaps huge rewards, according to a new study. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_punisher * *Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry* http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_goldenratio: A hitherto undiscovered order can be found in solid matter at very small scales, physicists are reporting. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_goldenratio * *Hubble reveals uncharted cosmic zone*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100105_galaxies : The space telescope has uncovered a primordial population of small, ultra-blue galaxies, according to astronomers. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100105_galaxies * *Lifeless molecules found to evolve, adapt*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100101_prions : Prions -- infectious molecules that cause fatal brain diseases -- can evolve in a Darwinian fashion, biologists say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100101_prions * *Mosquito lovers sing in harmony*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091231_mosquito : The insects responsible for the most malaria deaths find mates by using their wingbeats to produce tones that agree, a study reports. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091231_mosquito * *Power promotes hypocrisy: study*http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091229_hypocrisy : Behind 2009's scandal-ridden headlines lies a deeper psychological pattern, researchers claim. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091229_hypocrisy *World Science homepage* Don't forget to visit our homepage for Science In Images; links to top science news from other publi- cations; and other recent World Science stories! http://www.world-science.net *World Science archives* To new readers especially: you need not miss our ex- citing past stories, though they won't appear in future newsletters. See archives for any year by typing that year after the homepage address: for example, http://www.world-science.net/2007 *Invite friends to join World Science!* Click here to open an invitation email you can send friends and colleagues so they can join you in sub- scribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) * More information* This is the World Science newsletter. *To cancel* your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. *To subscribe*, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. *To change* the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any World Science article may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. http://www.world-science.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Anyone Heard From Maurice/
Funny, I was just about to ask you that. I was thinking about him a lot this weekend and checked my e-mails for anything from him. Nada. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:08:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Anyone Heard From Maurice/ A few months back, Maurice announced he was having major surgery and would not be posting for a while. Has anyone heard from him? If not, I am going to try to track him down. I am a little worried Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@greeneconomypost.com Phone: 425-502-7716
RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Congrats on the new business From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of C.W. Badie Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:01 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Doing okay...my comp's still out because I'm trying to get my biz off the ground...doing remodeling and repair on the carpetry side of the house...doing my first woodworking project also; a tv/magazine stand for my uncle's dental office...Will post pics on my MySpace site. Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:30 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Hey man, how you doing?! - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com http://yahoo.com/ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:49:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Oh yeah...Hey, Keith! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net http://comcast.net/ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
[scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton?
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-LeVar-Burton/dp/0446679607/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1263409529sr=1-1 From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 1:52:27 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? The Plan came off more like a black comedy based on BSG than anything else... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:07:37 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? I was confused on how the skinjob Cylons figured into it. Reading the wiki cleared it up for me. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: The first show will explain how the Cylons were created. It is 58 years before the 2nd Cylon war. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, B Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote: I've seen Caprica and it was interesting but I'm a bit confused by the timeline and how it fits. Maybe the events Caprica lead to differences in the Centurion style Cylons. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ wrote: Mr. Worf, I watched BSG: The Plan, and I was impressed. More so of how the Cylon modelsexcept for model number 1, all decided that the extermination of the human was morally wrong. thought that that was extremely interesting. Have not seen Caprica yet, but I am waiting on the premiere next week. Dr. Fate --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ Subject: [scifinoir2] Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26 AM  Just wondering. Both were on tv recently. BSG: The Plan is a replay of the initial Cylon attack that wiped out humanity(?) from the Cylon point of view. It is interesting to do a rewind to see the story behind the scenes. Caprica rewinds the story even farther back to about 58 years before the war with the Cylons began. It also covers the origin of the Cylons. The big difference is that the storyline is more along the lines of an Earth based drama. They are replaying the pilot episode on 1/22. Here is more info on the show: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Caprica_% 28TV_series% 29 Its also on comscum on demand. Has anyone else watched these two shows? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Agreed, and it saddens me no end. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:19:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink In Brazil women are putting their plastic surgeries on layaway. Even Oprah did a show on this topic but there needs to be a bigger dialog. Much bigger. There are so many people getting plastic surgery that it is hard to tell what is natural anymore. Countries like Iran has thousands of people getting their nose done. Its also hip to wear the bandages as if you had surgery as well. Good hair was just a minor detour. It prompted a few women to go natural but they are in the minority. Untold billions are being made on the insecurities of black women. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, I remain troubled by that. The attitude If you can afford it and want to improve your looks, why not? doesn't address the underlying problem of why people think their native looks are unattractive. Asian women cutting the epicanthic folds is bad enough. Saddest of all to me is that the number of Latina and Black women in this country getting plastic surgery is going up. I listened to two plastic surgeons on NPR discuss it recently. For most people of color here, the thing seems to be making the nose narrower--kinda look the foolishness Janet Jackson did to her nose, which complemented her face much more in its original state. There's lots of reasons why corrective plastic surgery is necessary, but for reasons like this, it's an issue in which we need to teach our children to love themselves and their full lips, narrow eyes, dark skin, curly hair, broad noses, round butts, big legs--whatever. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:16:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:32:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink They are also good at casting people of color with little or no thought to their ethnicity. I really like that From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the
[scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy [image: Conan OBrien] His future at NBC uncertain, *Conan O'Brien* released a statementhttp://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reportedhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/business/media/12conan.htmlon Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his showhttp://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR
What is Truth, my son? do you and I see the same thing when we both look up into the sky? Do you and I hear the same song when the mockingbird sings on the tree branch nearby. Is your world the same in which I live. Ah...Truth is a vapor that drifts on the wind, blown about by the needs and doubts and fears of those who breathe their essences upon it. (Yeah, been thinking about old eps of Kung Fu recently!) - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:27:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Then what better thing to put your faith in but the Truth? It is incorruptible (unless you manipulate it, so don't), impeachable, and forever evolving...What better premise to base a religion on. However, the best way for it to work is for the participants to only accept hard evidence...uh oh, there goes faith... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 11:45:04 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR So how did Jesus turn BLOND?!?!?”! God I hate that church. It is a religion in which there is no place for truth From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:22 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR The 13th tribe, John the Baptist, Jesus and Mary, etc. The Russians and Eastern Europeans have many paintings and works of art that are of a black Jesus. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: You mean, like the supposed picture or statue showing Mary and Jesus as being of African descent? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:45:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Vatican hates AVATAR I agree. Another thing that I have been curious about is all of the documentation that they have hidden away in the basement of the Vatican. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com wrote: Because they ceased to be about true spirituality years ago, if they ever *WERE* into such a thing. Nowadays it's just having and securing power over their flock of sheep. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:54 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: The sad thing is that the Vatican seems threatened that so many people take comfort in the movie's message(reverence for nature, live in harmony with the world and not in dominion over it, etc.) They are as bad as the climate change deniers that think nothing man does can harm this world despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Back at ya J From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of C.W. Badie Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:16 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Hi Tracey... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 3:14:29 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR Amen!!! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ [mailto: scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:53 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Vatican hates AVATAR That settles it. Avatar RULES! :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur mailto: tdlists@ ...
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Although the following shows differ wildly in content, subject, and drama/comedy balance, if you like stuff like The Rockford Files, Eureka, Psych, Burn Notice, Hustle, Castle, or the easy breezy feel of the caper in Ocean's Eleven, you'll enjoy Leverage. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:02:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Gosh...I might have to invest in a decent DVR too... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT It's pleasant and fun, not too taxing, not too serious. Perfect to just have a good time. Not like Southland, which is very grim, but good. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton?
I read it years ago. It's honestly just fair. The first several pages are pure narrative with no dialogue, a common thing for first time writers. I did that once myself in a writing class: narrative that ran on and on, which my teacher loved, but wondered When will you start the dialog? It's got cool concepts: the assassination of the first Black president, white folk literally grafting black people's skin onto their bodies so the enhanced melanin can protect them against ever-increasing UV radiation. I was frankly surprised--pleasantly so--to see Burton so directly deal with racism in the near-future world he crafted. I'd love to see him writer more books as his skill improves, and wouldn't it be great to speak to him about this book in light of Obama's election? When I read it, and the Black prez is killed by a white homegrown terrorist group, more than a alittle of me believed that can happen whenever we finally get a black prez - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:07:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton? http://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-LeVar-Burton/dp/0446679607/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1263409529sr=1-1 From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 1:52:27 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? The Plan came off more like a black comedy based on BSG than anything else... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:07:37 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? I was confused on how the skinjob Cylons figured into it. Reading the wiki cleared it up for me. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: The first show will explain how the Cylons were created. It is 58 years before the 2nd Cylon war. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, B Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote: I've seen Caprica and it was interesting but I'm a bit confused by the timeline and how it fits. Maybe the events Caprica lead to differences in the Centurion style Cylons. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ wrote: Mr. Worf, I watched BSG: The Plan, and I was impressed. More so of how the Cylon modelsexcept for model number 1, all decided that the extermination of the human was morally wrong. thought that that was extremely interesting. Have not seen Caprica yet, but I am waiting on the premiere next week. Dr. Fate --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ Subject: [scifinoir2] Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26 AM  Just wondering. Both were on tv recently. BSG: The Plan is a replay of the initial Cylon attack that wiped out humanity(?) from the Cylon point of view. It is interesting to do a rewind to see the story behind the scenes. Caprica rewinds the story even farther back to about 58 years before the war with the Cylons began. It also covers the origin of the Cylons. The big difference is that the storyline is more along the lines of an Earth based drama. They are replaying the pilot episode on 1/22. Here is more info on the show: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Caprica_% 28TV_series% 29 Its also on comscum on demand. Has anyone else watched these two shows? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] What or Who will Force West Out of Middle East and When? [1 Attachment]
What or Who will Force West Out of Middle East and When? Dear Group, Please pardon me, but I forgot to include this very important link concerning an increase in magnitude 7 plus earthquakes in my post. As most should already know by now, lowly Haiti or Port-Au -Prince the capital city of 2 million has been utterly devastated by a monster slip-side 7.3 earthquake with over 30 aftershocks still occurring. What a tragedy of immense proportion, and I do hope that everyone who can will marshal whatever support they can for those affected. The bottom line is however, can or should we all likewise be of the mindset that such tragedy may soon be visiting us anywhere on this planet during these last days? According to my limited understanding, such will be the case, and due diligent preparation is the key if only we do so mentally! From ZT Newsletter Issue 141, Sunday, July 12, 2009 http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue141.htm The wicked ENDTIME - NOT the RIGHTEOUS. http://Zetaheaven.org
RE: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:03:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system That's just the light bouncing off of the unobtainium. :) On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Amy Harlib ahar...@earthlink.net wrote: ahar...@earthlink.net Cool science stuff. - Original Message - From: World Science To: emailn...@world-science.net Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: World Science: Mysterious dust in a distant solar system * For healthy mental aging, brain games may fill in for schooling: People with less education can avoid the increased risk of memory loss, a study suggests. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100112_brain * Distant solar system forming from mysterious dust, scientists say: A far-off solar system seems to be forming from a strange dust whose makeup is unlike that of our and other solar systems. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100111_dust * Baby temperament found to predict adult brain structure: Four-month-old infants' temperament predicts some aspects of their brain structure at age 18, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100109_brain * Punisher of the seas is a little finned janitor: For small fish known as cleaner wrasse, stepping into the line of fire reaps huge rewards, according to a new study. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_punisher * Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry: A hitherto undiscovered order can be found in solid matter at very small scales, physicists are reporting. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100107_goldenratio * Hubble reveals uncharted cosmic zone: The space telescope has uncovered a primordial population of small, ultra-blue galaxies, according to astronomers. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100105_galaxies * Lifeless molecules found to evolve, adapt: Prions -- infectious molecules that cause fatal brain diseases -- can evolve in a Darwinian fashion, biologists say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100101_prions * Mosquito lovers sing in harmony: The insects responsible for the most malaria deaths find mates by using their wingbeats to produce tones that agree, a study reports. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091231_mosquito * Power promotes hypocrisy: study: Behind 2009's scandal-ridden headlines lies a deeper psychological pattern, researchers claim. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/091229_hypocrisy World Science homepage Don't forget to visit our homepage for Science In Images; links to top science news from other publi- cations; and other recent World Science stories! http://www.world-science.net World Science archives To new readers especially: you need not miss our ex- citing past stories, though they won't appear in future newsletters. See archives for any year by typing that year after the homepage address: for example, http://www.world-science.net/2007 Invite friends to join World Science! Click here to open an invitation email you can send friends and colleagues so they can join you in sub- scribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) More information This is the World Science newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. To subscribe, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. To change the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any World Science article may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy [image: Conan OBrien] His future at NBC uncertain, *Conan O'Brien* released a statementhttp://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reportedhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/business/media/12conan.htmlon Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his showhttp://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Pal, once you get it, let me know how to program the thing. I've got one, after switching to DirecTV, and the one time I tried to record something, I knocked myself off the air. (Ask all you like -- I'll be shot if I can tell you. ) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:02:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Gosh...I might have to invest in a decent DVR too... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT It's pleasant and fun, not too taxing, not too serious. Perfect to just have a good time. Not like Southland, which is very grim, but good. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Best of all fortune to you, pal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:01:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Doing okay...my comp's still out because I'm trying to get my biz off the ground...doing remodeling and repair on the carpetry side of the house...doing my first woodworking project also; a tv/magazine stand for my uncle's dental office...Will post pics on my MySpace site. Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:30 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Hey man, how you doing?! - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:49:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Oh yeah...Hey, Keith! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Adrianne, one thing I've come to realize in life -- people often *don't* think, in such matters. Following the pack is de rigeur these decades. And, IMO, the software (personality, intellect, et cetera) often enhance the hardware, increase a woman's attractiveness. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:55:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I don't understand why people want to look like everyone else. I LOVE exotic looks. Why do people think being different is unattractive? I honestly tend to prefer those who are unconventionally attractive, mostly because of personality/intelligence/how they carry themselves. A shame that people feel the need to do such crazy shit. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, I remain troubled by that. The attitude If you can afford it and want to improve your looks, why not? doesn't address the underlying problem of why people think their native looks are unattractive. Asian women cutting the epicanthic folds is bad enough. Saddest of all to me is that the number of Latina and Black women in this country getting plastic surgery is going up. I listened to two plastic surgeons on NPR discuss it recently. For most people of color here, the thing seems to be making the nose narrower--kinda look the foolishness Janet Jackson did to her nose, which complemented her face much more in its original state. There's lots of reasons why corrective plastic surgery is necessary, but for reasons like this, it's an issue in which we need to teach our children to love themselves and their full lips, narrow eyes, dark skin, curly hair, broad noses, round butts, big legs--whatever. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:16:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To:
RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
Thanks for the heads-up on Enterprise, Keith! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:57:40 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Anyone Heard From Maurice/
Neither have I. I've had him in my thoughts every day, meaning to drop him several lines, but the time never lets me. Be well, my friend, if you're seeing this, from all of us. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:56:22 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Anyone Heard From Maurice/ Funny, I was just about to ask you that. I was thinking about him a lot this weekend and checked my e-mails for anything from him. Nada. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:08:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Anyone Heard From Maurice/ A few months back, Maurice announced he was having major surgery and would not be posting for a while. Has anyone heard from him? If not, I am going to try to track him down. I am a little worried Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@greeneconomypost.com Phone: 425-502-7716 _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
I second that emotion, brother. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:16:09 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I think that the US mindset has polluted the rest of the planet. There are women of all nationalities dying their hair and wearing blue contacts. Don't get me started on the plastic surgery thing or Asian women getting their eyes rounded and eyelids changed at the risk of blindness. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Something else I've long admired about the Brits and people in other parts of the world is that they're not as obsessed with skinny blondes as Americans are. I was watching Donna in the Doctor Who marathon and told my wife, this actress would never have been cast in a similarly hot property in America. She's too heavy, too plain looking (not ugly at all, just kinda has an Everywoman look), and isn't a blonde. She agreed. Note that the actress who plays Rose Tyler would probably be put on a diet in H'Wood. I thought she was perfectly fine--which is a clue she'd be considered overweight by the mainstream. And Freema? They'd make her see a dentist to tone down the front teeth, and probably want her to somehow reduce that butt and those nice legs. I thought the Sister was pretty as can be, but when I glimpsed that lower half in some jeans--after i quit saying nice!--I thought, Man, she's too real looking for most H'Wood suits. Here, people sing the praises of sometimes-plain looking women like Jennifer Anniston, Paris Hilton, or the late Britanny Murphy for being thin. The thinner--and blonder--actresses get, the better. Christ Carter relates that when he was casting The X-Files, he and David Duchovny had to threaten to quit before the studio would accept Gillian Anderson. The studio demanded a prettier, thinner blonde to offset the dark-feature Duchovny, if you can believe that?! There is some diversity creeping back into H'Wood. I'm seeing a return of brunettes being cast as beauties, thank goodness. But even then, look at shows like Gossip Girl or something, and all the women make me almost ill they're so damn thin. What happened to curves?? I'm hoping the rise of people like Jennifer Hudson, Scarlett Johannsen (whose curves I love, but who has been called borderline by many) will finally break the mold. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:32:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink They are also good at casting people of color with little or no thought to their ethnicity. I really like that From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more comfortable and organic in putting black and white couples together than Americans. how many IR couples has Dr. Who shown? I remember the movie Love Actually, Keira Knightley's character married Chewotel Edjifor (sp) and it was no biggie. Donna was engaged to a black man when introduce, and married another when Tennant took his leave. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That is exactly why I liked her. You have to remember, many of us took issue with how they developed Martha to have unrequited love for the doctor, started rumors that her character was leaving, then they denied them, only to have her leave. That would not put the replacement in a very good spot. I will give them credit for having Martha leave with a band, that trek across the world for a year stuff was pretty powerful stuff From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:08 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
That *was* Mickey! I need new glasses... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:26:14 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more comfortable and organic in putting black and white couples together than Americans. how many IR couples has Dr. Who shown? I remember the movie Love Actually, Keira Knightley's character married Chewotel Edjifor (sp) and it was no biggie. Donna was engaged to a black man when introduce, and married another when Tennant took his leave. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That is exactly why I liked her. You have to remember, many of us took issue with how they developed Martha to have unrequited love for the doctor, started rumors that her character was leaving, then they denied them, only to have her leave. That would not put the replacement in a very good spot. I will give them credit for having Martha leave with a band, that trek across the world for a year stuff was pretty powerful stuff From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:08 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she was, on closer examination, rather sweet and vulnerable inside. She really was someone who just wanted more out of life, and covered her pain with a tough exterior. She had me from the moment she got on the Tardis--full of gratitude--then took the Doctor to task for his callousness at times. Unlike Rose and Martha, who too quickly lapsed into having schoolgirl crushes on the awesomeness of the Doctor, Donna looked askance at him, as if she finally realized he really was an alien. She often gave him a start with her observations on his behaviour. I think that the way Rose's sweetness and Martha's pluck reminded him of what's important in being human--or humane--Donna's caustic nature reminded him to quit being so detached and get off his duff. They feathered him with kisses, Donna gave him swift kicks to remind him about what matters. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:58:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The character who surprised me was Donna. I was a Donna hater, from the minute that they announced her as Martha's replacement. See is not my favorite, but she did grow on me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I agree with Keith, Angela. Give it a go. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:14:01 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Give Warehouse 13 a chance. I was cold on it too, but three eps in, liked it, and am a fan now. - Original Message - From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:28:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Yeh, it's OK. When my other shows start to come back at the end of January, Demons will probably fall into the recorded by never watched unless I catch another cold category. Like WH13 (for me). Speaking of which, did anyone notice how much the archive/stacks or whatever that place is looks a lot like Warehouse 13? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12� vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5� called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9� child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Keith, in one of the DW documentaries they aired on BBC America during the DW marathon, Davies said that Donna was the Doctor's best mate. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:07:59 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she was, on closer examination, rather sweet and vulnerable inside. She really was someone who just wanted more out of life, and covered her pain with a tough exterior. She had me from the moment she got on the Tardis--full of gratitude--then took the Doctor to task for his callousness at times. Unlike Rose and Martha, who too quickly lapsed into having schoolgirl crushes on the awesomeness of the Doctor, Donna looked askance at him, as if she finally realized he really was an alien. She often gave him a start with her observations on his behaviour. I think that the way Rose's sweetness and Martha's pluck reminded him of what's important in being human--or humane--Donna's caustic nature reminded him to quit being so detached and get off his duff. They feathered him with kisses, Donna gave him swift kicks to remind him about what matters. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:58:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The character who surprised me was Donna. I was a Donna hater, from the minute that they announced her as Martha's replacement. See is not my favorite, but she did grow on me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
It was, Keith. And Eccleston did the ep that's managed to place itself among Logopolis, Blink, Silence in the Library and Doomsday as a favorite, The End of the World. When the plant lady recognized the Doctor as a Time Lord and said so, the look in his eyes, guilt, agony and sadness all tied up in one bundle -- *priceless*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:03:16 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Do yourself a favor and check out Eccleston's stuff. He was very good. Full of barely controlled rage and stupefying sadness was he. I think he was the Doctor in a really good, creepy two-parter in which people get infected and have their faces literally turn into WWI era gas masks! Then they go around aksing people Are you my mommy? I can't find my mommy. Creeepy! I think that's the show that introduced Captain Jack. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:05:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But that person neglected to say it was going to give me the heebee jeebees so I c ouldn't sleep! Angela Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die
And I sinerely hope that it does die aborning. I've never been comfortable with the word. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:59:37 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die I believe it. That is unless we let it come back without protest. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: On NPR's tell me more, a guy from the Census group says that over 50,000 people wrote in the word Negro in the 2000 census, which is why they're adding it back. It's mostly older blacks here in the South who use the term, he says, but it will probably be gone by the 2020 census. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:36:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Kweith, that may also be the same book I heard about a couple of weeks ago. In it, she says that Faux/Fixed/Fox Management didn't even consider its female on-air staff as talking heads, but as talking s and talking t*ts, there solely as the closest thing to porn that they could sneak on-screen. As for Senator Reid's comments -- as much as I look at them and ask myself WTF was he not thinking?, I'm amazed that virtually no news outlet is talking about the fact that the same word is going to be used on this year's Census forms. MSNBC did a bit on it, but nothing that I've seen since the story first broke. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:45:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Forget racist Australian KFC ads, we got the noose-and-burning-cross crowd taking over our own airwaves! In case you mistakenly thought that ignorance, racism, and corrosive fear of change were disappearing any time soon. I just listened to a lengthy Fresh Air interview with a reporter who's written a book on Palin, in which she and her co-writer point out how Palin has told so many inconsisten stories, plays the victim, and is really capable of being nasty and holding a grudge. And this lady works for Fox! Palin reminds me of some of the prejudiced whites I used to go to school with in Texas back in the '70s. They were always full of stuff about real Americans, making casual comments of racism and ignorance, seeing anyone who wasn't some country, cornfed Christian as the other. I didn't enjoy being around those people then, and I lament to see them continue to get public champions and public outlets now. And then there's Harry Reid's use of the word Negro. What decade is he living in? Though i can't argue his basic statement about Obama's skin color helping, give me a break. Post-racial my arse http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_fox_news ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, will take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator, the cable channel announced Monday. I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News, Palin said in a statement posted on the network's Web site. It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news. Fox said that according to the multiyear deal, Palin will offer political commentary and analysis. She also will host occasional episodes of Fox News Real American Stories, a series featuring true inspirational stories about Americans. Governor Palin has captivated everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and we are excited to add her dynamic voice to the FOX News lineup, Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming, said in a statement. Palin is hugely popular with conservatives and has more than 1.1 million Facebook followers. She stepped down as Alaska governor in July, 17 months before the end of her first term in office. Her resignation came less than a year after she vaulted to overnight fame as John McCain's running mate. Palin worked part-time as a weekend sportscaster in the 1980s for KTUU-TV in Anchorage. Her upcoming commentary career had her Facebook fans giddy with excitement Monday. Tell 'em like it is girl!!, one poster wrote. Palin finished a nationwide tour in December to promote
RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use
Say that louder, please, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:56:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use I knew that he was taking steroids as soon as he appeared on the scene. I have no sympathy for him because he reaped the benefits from it. He didn't have any of the bull that Barry Bonds had to suffer through either. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. ESPN has been discussing and rerunning excerpts from McGwire's tearful confession all day. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guy... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use LMNAOSMIH (So Much It Hurts) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Shocking, unfathomable, earth-shattering, completely unexpected, surprising beyond belief! And, in related news: Rush Limbaugh tearfully admits to being an ignorant, backwater racist... Whitney Houston slurs confession that she hasn't *quite* kicked the habit... George Bush II laughs that he never did care about no weapons of mass destruction... Michael Steele proclaims, I wish more white people thought of *me* as a good, safe 'Negro'! Simon Cowell overheard saying, no one with any real talent ever came out of 'American Idol'... Tiger Woods states in interview I think I have some issues with my skin color.. Dick Cheney relates that he hates--everyone... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607 NEW YORK -- Mark McGwire finally came clean, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998. McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked. It's very emotional, it's telling family members, friends and coaches, you know, it's former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I'm coming clean and being honest, he said. It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody. McGwire said he called commissioner Bud Selig and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa earlier in the day to personally apologize. In an interview with ESPN's Baseball Tonight, La Russa said he didn't know McGwire had used steroids until the slugger had admitted using performance-enhancing drugs in the phone call to the manager earlier Monday. I'm really encouraged that he would step forward, La Russa told ESPN. As we go along his explanations will be well received. Selig, in a statement released by Major League Baseball on Monday, said he was pleased with McGwire's admission. I am pleased that Mark McGwire has confronted his use of performance-enhancing substances as a player. Being truthful is always the correct course of action, which is why I had commissioned Senator George Mitchell to conduct his investigation. This statement of contrition, I believe, will make Mark's re-entry into the game much smoother and easier, Selig said. McGwire said he also used human growth hormone, and he didn't know if his use of performance-enhancing drugs contributed to some of the injuries that led to his retirement, at age 38, in 2001. That's a good question, he said. He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said was foolish and caused by his desire to overcome injuries, get back on the field and prove he was worth his multimillion salary. You don't know that you'll ever have to talk about the skeleton in your closet on a national level, he said. I did this for health purposes. There's no way I did this for any type of strength use. McGwire hit a then-record 70 homers in 1998 during a compelling race with Sammy Sosa, who finished with 66. More than anything else, the home-run spree revitalized baseball following the crippling strike that wiped out the 1994 World Series. Now that McGwire has come clean, increased glare might fall
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
The beard threw your off. I liked Martha and Mickey together From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:53 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That *was* Mickey! I need new glasses... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:26:14 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more comfortable and organic in putting black and white couples together than Americans. how many IR couples has Dr. Who shown? I remember the movie Love Actually, Keira Knightley's character married Chewotel Edjifor (sp) and it was no biggie. Donna was engaged to a black man when introduce, and married another when Tennant took his leave. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That is exactly why I liked her. You have to remember, many of us took issue with how they developed Martha to have unrequited love for the doctor, started rumors that her character was leaving, then they denied them, only to have her leave. That would not put the replacement in a very good spot. I will give them credit for having Martha leave with a band, that trek across the world for a year stuff was pretty powerful stuff From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:08 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she was, on closer examination, rather sweet and vulnerable inside. She really was someone who just wanted more out of life, and covered her pain with a tough exterior. She had me from the moment she got on the Tardis--full of gratitude--then took the Doctor to task for his callousness at times. Unlike Rose and Martha, who too quickly lapsed into having schoolgirl crushes on the awesomeness of the Doctor, Donna looked askance at him, as if she finally realized he really was an alien. She often gave him a start with her observations on his behaviour. I think that the way Rose's sweetness and Martha's pluck reminded him of what's important in being human--or humane--Donna's caustic nature reminded him to quit being so detached and get off his duff. They feathered him with kisses, Donna gave him swift kicks to remind him about what matters. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:58:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The character who surprised me was Donna. I was a Donna hater, from the minute that they announced her as Martha's replacement. See is not my favorite, but she did grow on me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a
RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use
Not I, Keith. Might muster a bit for him on the day his ehalth goes into a tailspin because of the repeated usage of that crap. I take far weaker steroids for my respiratory condition, and it's messed me up badly. Some days, I can barely hold a pencil or walk a straight line. I may have to surrender my driver's license if I don't show some normalization. The stuff he and others pump into themselves is TOXIC. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:52:54 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Thanks. ESPN has been discussing and rerunning excerpts from McGwire's tearful confession all day. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guy... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use LMNAOSMIH (So Much It Hurts) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Shocking, unfathomable, earth-shattering, completely unexpected, surprising beyond belief! And, in related news: Rush Limbaugh tearfully admits to being an ignorant, backwater racist... Whitney Houston slurs confession that she hasn't *quite* kicked the habit... George Bush II laughs that he never did care about no weapons of mass destruction... Michael Steele proclaims, I wish more white people thought of *me* as a good, safe 'Negro'! Simon Cowell overheard saying, no one with any real talent ever came out of 'American Idol'... Tiger Woods states in interview I think I have some issues with my skin color.. Dick Cheney relates that he hates--everyone... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607 NEW YORK -- Mark McGwire finally came clean, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998. McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked. It's very emotional, it's telling family members, friends and coaches, you know, it's former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I'm coming clean and being honest, he said. It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody. McGwire said he called commissioner Bud Selig and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa earlier in the day to personally apologize. In an interview with ESPN's Baseball Tonight, La Russa said he didn't know McGwire had used steroids until the slugger had admitted using performance-enhancing drugs in the phone call to the manager earlier Monday. I'm really encouraged that he would step forward, La Russa told ESPN. As we go along his explanations will be well received. Selig, in a statement released by Major League Baseball on Monday, said he was pleased with McGwire's admission. I am pleased that Mark McGwire has confronted his use of performance-enhancing substances as a player. Being truthful is always the correct course of action, which is why I had commissioned Senator George Mitchell to conduct his investigation. This statement of contrition, I believe, will make Mark's re-entry into the game much smoother and easier, Selig said. McGwire said he also used human growth hormone, and he didn't know if his use of performance-enhancing drugs contributed to some of the injuries that led to his retirement, at age 38, in 2001. That's a good question, he said. He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said was foolish and caused by his desire to overcome injuries, get back on the field and prove he was worth his multimillion salary. You don't know that you'll ever have to talk about the skeleton in your closet on a national level, he said. I did this for health purposes. There's no way I did this for any type of strength use. McGwire hit a then-record 70 homers in 1998 during a compelling race with Sammy Sosa, who finished with 66. More than anything else, the home-run spree revitalized baseball following the crippling strike that wiped out the 1994 World Series. Now that McGwire
RE: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
Walter, I'm not really sure. Didn't pay much attention to the details of the matter as it was happening, just savored the fact that I'd be able to see Conan earlier because of it. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:39:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
Apologies for calling you Walter, Mr Worf. Lots of stuff in the inbox. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:39:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Thinking about it now, so do I. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:06:16 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The beard threw your off. I liked Martha and Mickey together From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:53 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That *was* Mickey! I need new glasses... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:26:14 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I didn't watch the era with Martha on first run, so the effect wasn't the same on me. But I remember the comments, and I was a bit dismayed at how quickly she lost her mind for the Doctor. I'm really glad they gave her a black husband at the end of the Tennant ep--Rose's ex Mickey! And by the way, I've long noticed the Brits seem to be more comfortable and organic in putting black and white couples together than Americans. how many IR couples has Dr. Who shown? I remember the movie Love Actually, Keira Knightley's character married Chewotel Edjifor (sp) and it was no biggie. Donna was engaged to a black man when introduce, and married another when Tennant took his leave. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink That is exactly why I liked her. You have to remember, many of us took issue with how they developed Martha to have unrequited love for the doctor, started rumors that her character was leaving, then they denied them, only to have her leave. That would not put the replacement in a very good spot. I will give them credit for having Martha leave with a band, that trek across the world for a year stuff was pretty powerful stuff From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:08 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she was, on closer examination, rather sweet and vulnerable inside. She really was someone who just wanted more out of life, and covered her pain with a tough exterior. She had me from the moment she got on the Tardis--full of gratitude--then took the Doctor to task for his callousness at times. Unlike Rose and Martha, who too quickly lapsed into having schoolgirl crushes on the awesomeness of the Doctor, Donna looked askance at him, as if she finally realized he really was an alien. She often gave him a start with her observations on his behaviour. I think that the way Rose's sweetness and Martha's pluck reminded him of what's important in being human--or humane--Donna's caustic nature reminded him to quit being so detached and get off his duff. They feathered him with kisses, Donna gave him swift kicks to remind him about what matters. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:58:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The character who surprised me was Donna. I was a Donna hater, from the minute that they announced her as Martha's replacement. See is not my favorite, but she did grow on me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was
RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
I'll go with Crap. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:58 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Yeah, i couldn't get into the Spectacular Spider-Man toon either. Those big eyes are kinda creepy, and Peter and others seem to be a bit too small. without Raimi's control, who knows what this movie will be? :( - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:10:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Keith, I don't even think I'll waste my time on it. I've been rewatching the last version of Spectacular Spider-Man on Disney XD, and it's clearly aimed at the younger crowd, not something I really want to see. Watching one ep in which SPidey was fighting basically all of his Rogues' Gallery reminded me of a single issue of ASM (can't remember which) in which Spidey was fighting someone (again, pardon me crappy memory), being beaten almost to a pulp, but never giving in. Made me a fan of his all over again. IMO, that one ish, made into a movie, would make me happy for years, if done faithfully to the text. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying (via Twitter) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today. DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise. Points to Sony for making the smart choice here.
RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
Pardon... all thumbs, sent that last too soon. Meant to add that the eyes don't throw me, personally. Used to it from anime viewing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:58 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Yeah, i couldn't get into the Spectacular Spider-Man toon either. Those big eyes are kinda creepy, and Peter and others seem to be a bit too small. without Raimi's control, who knows what this movie will be? :( - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:10:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Keith, I don't even think I'll waste my time on it. I've been rewatching the last version of Spectacular Spider-Man on Disney XD, and it's clearly aimed at the younger crowd, not something I really want to see. Watching one ep in which SPidey was fighting basically all of his Rogues' Gallery reminded me of a single issue of ASM (can't remember which) in which Spidey was fighting someone (again, pardon me crappy memory), being beaten almost to a pulp, but never giving in. Made me a fan of his all over again. IMO, that one ish, made into a movie, would make me happy for years, if done faithfully to the text. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying (via Twitter) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today. DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
Warehouse 13 is pretty good. Also the history of the items are interesting as well. Think of it is as a Friday the 13th tv series update from a government perspective. I watched the first two episodes of Demons last night and I have to say that I wasn't impressed with it. The audience for the show seems to be early teenagers. Basically a Buffy reboot with a little more creativity on the monsters. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: I agree with Keith, Angela. Give it a go. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:14:01 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Give Warehouse 13 a chance. I was cold on it too, but three eps in, liked it, and am a fan now. - Original Message - From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:28:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Yeh, it's OK. When my other shows start to come back at the end of January, Demons will probably fall into the recorded by never watched unless I catch another cold category. Like WH13 (for me). Speaking of which, did anyone notice how much the archive/stacks or whatever that place is looks a lot like Warehouse 13? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12� vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5� called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9� child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use
I have been saying it as soon as the drama started. McGwire got away with it because he stopped taking it as soon as the testing became stricter. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Say that louder, please, Mr Worf. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:56:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use I knew that he was taking steroids as soon as he appeared on the scene. I have no sympathy for him because he reaped the benefits from it. He didn't have any of the bull that Barry Bonds had to suffer through either. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Thanks. ESPN has been discussing and rerunning excerpts from McGwire's tearful confession all day. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guy... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use LMNAOSMIH (So Much It Hurts) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Shocking, unfathomable, earth-shattering, completely unexpected, surprising beyond belief! And, in related news: Rush Limbaugh tearfully admits to being an ignorant, backwater racist... Whitney Houston slurs confession that she hasn't *quite* kicked the habit... George Bush II laughs that he never did care about no weapons of mass destruction... Michael Steele proclaims, I wish more white people thought of *me* as a good, safe 'Negro'! Simon Cowell overheard saying, no one with any real talent ever came out of 'American Idol'... Tiger Woods states in interview I think I have some issues with my skin color.. Dick Cheney relates that he hates--everyone... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607 NEW YORK -- Mark McGwirehttp://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=1738finally came clean, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998. McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked. It's very emotional, it's telling family members, friends and coaches, you know, it's former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I'm coming clean and being honest, he said. It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody. McGwire said he called commissioner Bud Selig and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa earlier in the day to personally apologize. In an interview with ESPN's Baseball Tonight, La Russa said he didn't know McGwire had used steroids until the slugger had admitted using performance-enhancing drugs in the phone call to the manager earlier Monday. I'm really encouraged that he would step forward, La Russa told ESPN. As we go along his explanations will be well received. Selig, in a statement released by Major League Baseball on Monday, said he was pleased with McGwire's admission. I am pleased that Mark McGwire has confronted his use of performance-enhancing substances as a player. Being truthful is always the correct course of action, which is why I had commissioned Senator George Mitchell to conduct his investigation. This statement of contrition, I believe, will make Mark's re-entry into the game much smoother and easier, Selig said. McGwire said he also used human growth hormone, and he didn't know if his use of performance-enhancing drugs contributed to some of the injuries that led to his retirement, at age 38, in 2001. That's a good question, he said. He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said was foolish and caused by his desire to overcome injuries, get back on the field and prove he was worth his multimillion salary. You don't know that you'll ever have to talk about the skeleton in your closet on a national level, he said. I did this for health purposes. There's no way I did this for any type of strength use. McGwire hit a then-record 70 homers in 1998 during a compelling race with Sammy Sosa
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
That would be a nightmare. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:45:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink
Once the trauma subsides, the memories blend in. Never forgotten, just filed away for future use. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:44:09 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink So, does this trauma cause permanent memory loss, or do the memories return in time? Each incarnation still thinks of himself as the same Doctor? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:18:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Regeneration trauma. The Fifth Doctor had a serious case of it, almost caused him to fail in his regeneration attempt. For a Time Lord, such is usually fatal. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:50:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink They said in the extra that every time the doctor regenerates he runs the possibility of forgetting things or not having exactly all of his parts etc. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But that person neglected to say it was going to give me the heebee jeebees so I couldn't sleep! Angela Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink
Segments like that one are the reason a series of DW novels called New Adventures came into being. Adventures that didn't pop up in the mainstream. I wish that the Beeb would do a few of those for Christmas Specials. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:43:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Amen! And, true to Dr. Who, they still manage to add some humour. At the end, when the young girl sees the Doctor in her time, he and Martha are running towards a nest of some kind. At least, I think I kept hearing Martha say something would be hatching soon. They're sporting bows and arrows. Hilarious! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:15:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Angela, I think you were absent when Keith and I discussed that effect. I'm leery of statues now, even in broad daylight. One of the best eps of the series, IMO. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: asrobin...@mindspring.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:08:45 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But that person neglected to say it was going to give me the heebee jeebees so I couldn't sleep! Angela Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink
You're right, Tracey. Maybe that's a new twist they tossed in. Nothing in old canon quite fits the sitch. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:29:18 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink In the finale, he said that some of him does die. At least I thought he did From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Way more complicated than that. He's literally the same person, but just changes how he expresses himself. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Really? So his personality and looks change, but is he at core still the same person? Is his regeneration akin to the Trill in Star Trek, where each person who gets the Symbiote remembers his/her past life, but it's actually the life of the Symbiote and the previous host? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:50:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink They said in the extra that every time the doctor regenerates he runs the possibility of forgetting things or not having exactly all of his parts etc. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But that person neglected to say it was going to give me the heebee jeebees so I couldn't sleep! Angela Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
Angela, it does at that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: asrobin...@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:28:33 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Yeh, it's OK. When my other shows start to come back at the end of January, Demons will probably fall into the recorded by never watched unless I catch another cold category. Like WH13 (for me). Speaking of which, did anyone notice how much the archive/stacks or whatever that place is looks a lot like Warehouse 13? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12â€� vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5â€� called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9â€� child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police?
I'd say yes, and I'd say he's smart for doing so. The minute the discussion on race begins is the day any work in Washington stops getting done. And, if the wrong words come out in this, he runs the risk of giving the racists (Beck, Limbaugh et all) ammo. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:32:13 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNx8JRc5sI Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die
Allow me to state herenow, for the Officla Record, that your name is Keith*, Keith. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:36:08 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Kweith, that may also be the same book I heard about a couple of weeks ago. In it, she says that Faux/Fixed/Fox Management didn't even consider its female on-air staff as talking heads, but as talking s and talking t*ts, there solely as the closest thing to porn that they could sneak on-screen. As for Senator Reid's comments -- as much as I look at them and ask myself WTF was he not thinking?, I'm amazed that virtually no news outlet is talking about the fact that the same word is going to be used on this year's Census forms. MSNBC did a bit on it, but nothing that I've seen since the story first broke. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:45:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Forget racist Australian KFC ads, we got the noose-and-burning-cross crowd taking over our own airwaves! In case you mistakenly thought that ignorance, racism, and corrosive fear of change were disappearing any time soon. I just listened to a lengthy Fresh Air interview with a reporter who's written a book on Palin, in which she and her co-writer point out how Palin has told so many inconsisten stories, plays the victim, and is really capable of being nasty and holding a grudge. And this lady works for Fox! Palin reminds me of some of the prejudiced whites I used to go to school with in Texas back in the '70s. They were always full of stuff about real Americans, making casual comments of racism and ignorance, seeing anyone who wasn't some country, cornfed Christian as the other. I didn't enjoy being around those people then, and I lament to see them continue to get public champions and public outlets now. And then there's Harry Reid's use of the word Negro. What decade is he living in? Though i can't argue his basic statement about Obama's skin color helping, give me a break. Post-racial my arse http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_fox_news ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, will take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator, the cable channel announced Monday. I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News, Palin said in a statement posted on the network's Web site. It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news. Fox said that according to the multiyear deal, Palin will offer political commentary and analysis. She also will host occasional episodes of Fox News Real American Stories, a series featuring true inspirational stories about Americans. Governor Palin has captivated everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and we are excited to add her dynamic voice to the FOX News lineup, Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming, said in a statement. Palin is hugely popular with conservatives and has more than 1.1 million Facebook followers. She stepped down as Alaska governor in July, 17 months before the end of her first term in office. Her resignation came less than a year after she vaulted to overnight fame as John McCain's running mate. Palin worked part-time as a weekend sportscaster in the 1980s for KTUU-TV in Anchorage. Her upcoming commentary career had her Facebook fans giddy with excitement Monday. Tell 'em like it is girl!!, one poster wrote. Palin finished a nationwide tour in December to promote her best-selling book, Going Rogue. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die
LMNAO @ the truth!! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:02:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die I believe that. Most of the decisions that are being determined are made by a few people that are not all that socially evolved. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Kweith, that may also be the same book I heard about a couple of weeks ago. In it, she says that Faux/Fixed/Fox Management didn't even consider its female on-air staff as talking heads, but as talking s and talking t*ts, there solely as the closest thing to porn that they could sneak on-screen. As for Senator Reid's comments -- as much as I look at them and ask myself WTF was he not thinking?, I'm amazed that virtually no news outlet is talking about the fact that the same word is going to be used on this year's Census forms. MSNBC did a bit on it, but nothing that I've seen since the story first broke. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:45:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Forget racist Australian KFC ads, we got the noose-and-burning-cross crowd taking over our own airwaves! In case you mistakenly thought that ignorance, racism, and corrosive fear of change were disappearing any time soon. I just listened to a lengthy Fresh Air interview with a reporter who's written a book on Palin, in which she and her co-writer point out how Palin has told so many inconsisten stories, plays the victim, and is really capable of being nasty and holding a grudge. And this lady works for Fox! Palin reminds me of some of the prejudiced whites I used to go to school with in Texas back in the '70s. They were always full of stuff about real Americans, making casual comments of racism and ignorance, seeing anyone who wasn't some country, cornfed Christian as the other. I didn't enjoy being around those people then, and I lament to see them continue to get public champions and public outlets now. And then there's Harry Reid's use of the word Negro. What decade is he living in? Though i can't argue his basic statement about Obama's skin color helping, give me a break. Post-racial my arse http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_fox_news ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, will take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator, the cable channel announced Monday. I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News, Palin said in a statement posted on the network's Web site. It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news. Fox said that according to the multiyear deal, Palin will offer political commentary and analysis. She also will host occasional episodes of Fox News Real American Stories, a series featuring true inspirational stories about Americans. Governor Palin has captivated everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and we are excited to add her dynamic voice to the FOX News lineup, Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming, said in a statement. Palin is hugely popular with conservatives and has more than 1.1 million Facebook followers. She stepped down as Alaska governor in July, 17 months before the end of her first term in office. Her resignation came less than a year after she vaulted to overnight fame as John McCain's running mate. Palin worked part-time as a weekend sportscaster in the 1980s for KTUU-TV in Anchorage. Her upcoming commentary career had her Facebook fans giddy with excitement Monday. Tell 'em like it is girl!!, one poster wrote. Palin finished a nationwide tour in December to promote her best-selling book, Going Rogue. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? Wisdom, pure and simple. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me stop...they'll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting also hurt network drama too. Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few years: Dirty Sexy Money Southland The Unusuals Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Dollhouse Life On Mars Journeyman My Own Worst Enemy And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them. And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand American network execs. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness (the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a decent TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ ... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The new cop drama Southland was given very little time to catch fire on NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of course, Leverage is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan is part of the cast for at least a little while? You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of the so-called broadcast networks. Look at the list of shows currently on TNT: The Closer...Dark Blue...HawthoRNe. ..Leverage. ..Men of a Certain Age...Raising the Bar... Saving Grace...Southland. ..Angel.. .Bones... Charmed Cold Case... CSI: NY...ER...Las Vegas...Law Order...Numb3rs. ..Supernatural Then look at the great shows on USA Network: Burn Notice, Psych, In Plain Sight, Royal Pains, White Collar...Monk. ..House.. .Law and Order What strikes me is that some of these shows are excellent, some are just entertaining, some are reruns of canceled series. But, all are the types of shows you used to *expect* on CBS, ABC, and NBC back in the day. But those networks seem to be struggling with the motivation/money to keep good shows, while the cable networks are bringing 'em in. I guess it's true that a TNT can afford to air a few high quality shows, thus paying for a smaller stable of new product than, say, NBC. Still, NBC's made some bonehead moves that don't help its case. The debacle of the Jay Leno show is just one example. And with Southland, they didn't give the show a chance, and then tried to move it up an hour to 9 pm EST. Star Regina King said on Tom Joyner's show yesterday that was a mistake. She was clearly upset with NBC's handling of her show. It just seems that more and more, one can go to cable to see good programming- -even reruns--especially late night, instead of having to depend on the broadcast networks. * * http://www.tnt. tv/series/ southland/ display/? contentId= 53849 About
[scifinoir2] Old Age
An elderly gentleman... Had serious hearing problems for a number of years. He went to the doctor and the doctor was able to have him fitted for a set of hearing aids that allowed the gentleman to hear 100% . The elderly gentleman went back in a month to the doctor and the doctor said, 'Your hearing is perfect. Your family must be really pleased that you can hear again.' The gentleman replied, 'Oh, I haven't told my family yet. I just sit around and listen to the conversations. I've changed my will three times! ' Two elderly gentlemen from a retirement center were sitting on a bench under a tree when one turns to the other and says: 'Slim, I'm 83 years old now and I'm just full of aches and pains. I know you're about my age. How do you feel?' Slim says, 'I feel just like a newborn baby.' 'Really!? Like a newborn baby!?' 'Yep. No hair, no teeth, and I think I just wet my pants.' An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The two gentlemen were talking, and one said, 'Last night we went out to a new restaurant and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly.' The other man said, 'What is the name of the restaurant?' The first man thought and thought and finally said, 'What is the name of that flower you give to someone you love? You know... The one that's red and has thorns.' 'Do you mean a rose?' 'Yes, that's the one,' replied the man. He then turned towards the kitchen and yelled, 'Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?' Hospital regulations require a wheel chair for patients being discharged. However, while working as a student nurse, I found one elderly gentleman already dressed and sitting on the bed with a suitcase at his feet, who insisted he didn't need my help to leave the hospital. After a chat about rules being rules, he reluctantly let me wheel him to the elevator. On the way down I asked him if his wife was meeting him. 'I don't know,' he said 'She's still upstairs in the bathroom changing out of her hospital gown .' Couple in their nineties are both having problems remembering things. During a checkup, the doctor tells them that they're physically okay, but they might want to start writing things down to help them remember. Later that night, while watching TV, the old man gets up from his chair. 'Want anything while I'm in the kitchen?' he asks. 'Will you get me a bowl of ice cream?' 'Sure.' 'Don't you think you should write it down so you can remember it?' she asks. 'No , I can remember it.' 'Well, I'd like some strawberries on top, too. Maybe you should write it down, so's not to forget it?' He says, 'I can remember that. You want a bowl of ice cream with strawberries. ' 'I'd also like whipped cream. I'm certain you'll forget that, write it down?' she asks. Irritated, he says, 'I don't need to write it down, I can remember it! Ice cream with strawberries and whipped cream - I got it, for goodness sake!' Then he toddles into the kitchen. After about 20 minutes, the old man returns from the kitchen and hands his wife a plate of bacon and eggs. She stares at the plate for a moment. 'Where's my toast ?' A senior citizen said to his eighty-year old buddy: 'So I hear you're getting married?' 'Yep!' 'Do I know her?' 'Nope!' 'This woman, is she good looking?' 'Not really.' 'Is she a good cook?' 'Naw, she can't cook too well.' 'Does she have lots of money?' 'Nope! Poor as a church mouse.' 'Well, then, is she good in bed?' 'I don't know.' 'Why in the world do you want to marry her then?' 'Because she can still drive!' Three old guys are out walking. First one says, 'Windy, isn't it?' Second one says, 'No, it's Thursday!' Third one says, 'So am I. Let's go get a beer.' A man was telling his neighbour, 'I just bought a new hearing aid. It cost me four thousand dollars, but it's state of the art. It's perfect.' 'Really,' answered the neighbor . 'What kind is it?' 'Twelve thirty.' Morris, an 82 year-old man, went to the doctor to get a physical. A few days later, the doctor saw Morris walking down the street with a gorgeous young woman on his arm. A couple of days later, the doctor spoke to Morris and said, 'You're really doing great, aren't you?' Morris replied, 'Just doing what you said, Doc: 'Get a hot mamma and be cheerful.'' The doctor said, 'I didn't say that. I said, 'You've got a heart murmur; be careful.' One more! A little old man shuffled slowly into an ice cream parlor and pulled himself slowly, painfully, up onto a stool... After catching his breath, he ordered a banana split. The waitress asked kindly, 'Crushed nuts?' 'No,' he replied, 'Arthritis.'
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella's done in Mexico. They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should have been used for Lost. Good show, but it dragged on so many years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and interest. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week ...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? Wisdom, pure and simple. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me stop...they'll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting also hurt network drama too. Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few years: Dirty Sexy Money Southland The Unusuals Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Dollhouse Life On Mars Journeyman My Own Worst Enemy And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them. And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand American network execs. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness (the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a decent TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ ... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The new cop drama Southland was given very little time to catch fire on NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of course, Leverage is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan is part of the cast for at least a little while? You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of the so-called broadcast networks. Look at the list of shows currently on TNT: The Closer...Dark Blue...HawthoRNe. ..Leverage. ..Men of a Certain Age...Raising the Bar... Saving Grace...Southland. ..Angel.. .Bones... Charmed Cold Case... CSI: NY...ER...Las Vegas...Law Order...Numb3rs. ..Supernatural Then look at the great shows on USA Network: Burn Notice, Psych, In Plain Sight, Royal Pains, White Collar...Monk. ..House.. .Law and Order What strikes me is that some of these shows are excellent, some are just entertaining, some are reruns of canceled series. But, all are the types of shows you used to *expect* on CBS, ABC, and NBC back in the day. But those networks seem to be struggling with the motivation/money to keep good shows, while the cable networks are bringing 'em in. I guess it's true that a TNT can afford to air a few high quality shows, thus paying for a smaller stable
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT and Wil Wheaton
Wil Wheaton is one of the guest stars on the Leverage starting at 7 pm EST tonight. it's a fun show: Nate (Tim Hutton) and his crew go up against a rival crew containing conterparts for each of them. Good show to catch. Don't gasp too much at the rather corpulent Wesley Crusher: he's evidently been sitting a lot playing on the Net since is TNG days and not hitting the gym too much. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline.
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
No, I think they wanted this to be permanent, or at least the model for a future where shows like it dominated the 10 pm slot. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:39:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy Conan OBrien His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police?
I agree totally. I don't care for Obama much, but I do not begrudge him for the strategy of avoiding race issues. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? I'd say yes, and I'd say he's smart for doing so. The minute the discussion on race begins is the day any work in Washington stops getting done. And, if the wrong words come out in this, he runs the risk of giving the racists (Beck, Limbaugh et all) ammo. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:32:13 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNx8JRc5sI Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Eccleston and Captain Jack were great together From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:26 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink rave, toss in the Eccleston block. Captain Jack's debut is a thing to be savored. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:05:38 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But that person neglected to say it was going to give me the heebee jeebees so I c ouldn't sleep! Angela Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Really? What exactly did he mean by that? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:58:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Keith, in one of the DW documentaries they aired on BBC America during the DW marathon, Davies said that Donna was the Doctor's best mate. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:07:59 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I liked Donna from the start. Loudmouthed, abrasive, pushy, she was, on closer examination, rather sweet and vulnerable inside. She really was someone who just wanted more out of life, and covered her pain with a tough exterior. She had me from the moment she got on the Tardis--full of gratitude--then took the Doctor to task for his callousness at times. Unlike Rose and Martha, who too quickly lapsed into having schoolgirl crushes on the awesomeness of the Doctor, Donna looked askance at him, as if she finally realized he really was an alien. She often gave him a start with her observations on his behaviour. I think that the way Rose's sweetness and Martha's pluck reminded him of what's important in being human--or humane--Donna's caustic nature reminded him to quit being so detached and get off his duff. They feathered him with kisses, Donna gave him swift kicks to remind him about what matters. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:58:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink The character who surprised me was Donna. I was a Donna hater, from the minute that they announced her as Martha's replacement. See is not my favorite, but she did grow on me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Is Eccleston's Doctor the incarnation that fought the battle with the Daleks in which so many died? And, I'm a bit confused now. When was that apocalyptic battle fought, in our past or future? Also, I thought all the Daleks were annihilated, and the Time Lords too. The Tennant ep however, seems to indicate the Time Lords didn't die, just were shifted outside of our spacetime into a kind of limbo? Did the Doctor kill all the Daleks? Did he strand his own people in limbo? And was his home world destroyed? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:02:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink It was, Keith. And Eccleston did the ep that's managed to place itself among Logopolis, Blink, Silence in the Library and Doomsday as a favorite, The End of the World. When the plant lady recognized the Doctor as a Time Lord and said so, the look in his eyes, guilt, agony and sadness all tied up in one bundle -- *priceless*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:03:16 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Do yourself a favor and check out Eccleston's stuff. He was very good. Full of barely controlled rage and stupefying sadness was he. I think he was the Doctor in a really good, creepy two-parter in which people get infected and have their faces literally turn into WWI era gas masks! Then they go around aksing people Are you my mommy? I can't find my mommy. Creeepy! I think that's the show that introduced Captain Jack. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:05:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of angelababycat Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:09 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink OK, I'm only a recent fan of Dr. Who and still going through all those marathon eps I recorded last week. But I remember someone mentioning that Blink was a favorite, so I skipped ahead and watched it late last night. It was really good. But
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Nah, that would be McGann's Doctor, and it's assumed those events forced him to regenerate into Eccleston's Doctor. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Is Eccleston's Doctor the incarnation that fought the battle with the Daleks in which so many died? And, I'm a bit confused now. When was that apocalyptic battle fought, in our past or future? Also, I thought all the Daleks were annihilated, and the Time Lords too. The Tennant ep however, seems to indicate the Time Lords didn't die, just were shifted outside of our spacetime into a kind of limbo? Did the Doctor kill all the Daleks? Did he strand his own people in limbo? And was his home world destroyed? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:02:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink It was, Keith. And Eccleston did the ep that's managed to place itself among Logopolis, Blink, Silence in the Library and Doomsday as a favorite, The End of the World. When the plant lady recognized the Doctor as a Time Lord and said so, the look in his eyes, guilt, agony and sadness all tied up in one bundle -- *priceless*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:03:16 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Do yourself a favor and check out Eccleston's stuff. He was very good. Full of barely controlled rage and stupefying sadness was he. I think he was the Doctor in a really good, creepy two-parter in which people get infected and have their faces literally turn into WWI era gas masks! Then they go around aksing people Are you my mommy? I can't find my mommy. Creeepy! I think that's the show that introduced Captain Jack. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:05:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink It is creepy. The guy who wrote that is the one who took over. He also wrote the three library articles and Jekyl. While I cannot yet get used to the new Doctor, I look forward to the storylines -Original Message-
Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use
wow... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:07:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Not I, Keith. Might muster a bit for him on the day his ehalth goes into a tailspin because of the repeated usage of that crap. I take far weaker steroids for my respiratory condition, and it's messed me up badly. Some days, I can barely hold a pencil or walk a straight line. I may have to surrender my driver's license if I don't show some normalization. The stuff he and others pump into themselves is TOXIC. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:52:54 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Thanks. ESPN has been discussing and rerunning excerpts from McGwire's tearful confession all day. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guy... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use LMNAOSMIH (So Much It Hurts) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Shocking, unfathomable, earth-shattering, completely unexpected, surprising beyond belief! And, in related news: Rush Limbaugh tearfully admits to being an ignorant, backwater racist... Whitney Houston slurs confession that she hasn't *quite* kicked the habit... George Bush II laughs that he never did care about no weapons of mass destruction... Michael Steele proclaims, I wish more white people thought of *me* as a good, safe 'Negro'! Simon Cowell overheard saying, no one with any real talent ever came out of 'American Idol'... Tiger Woods states in interview I think I have some issues with my skin color.. Dick Cheney relates that he hates--everyone... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607 NEW YORK -- Mark McGwire finally came clean, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998. McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked. It's very emotional, it's telling family members, friends and coaches, you know, it's former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I'm coming clean and being honest, he said. It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody. McGwire said he called commissioner Bud Selig and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa earlier in the day to personally apologize. In an interview with ESPN's Baseball Tonight, La Russa said he didn't know McGwire had used steroids until the slugger had admitted using performance-enhancing drugs in the phone call to the manager earlier Monday. I'm really encouraged that he would step forward, La Russa told ESPN. As we go along his explanations will be well received. Selig, in a statement released by Major League Baseball on Monday, said he was pleased with McGwire's admission. I am pleased that Mark McGwire has confronted his use of performance-enhancing substances as a player. Being truthful is always the correct course of action, which is why I had commissioned Senator George Mitchell to conduct his investigation. This statement of contrition, I believe, will make Mark's re-entry into the game much smoother and easier, Selig said. McGwire said he also used human growth hormone, and he didn't know if his use of performance-enhancing drugs contributed to some of the injuries that led to his retirement, at age 38, in 2001. That's a good question, he said. He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said was foolish and caused by his desire to overcome injuries, get back on the field and prove he was worth his multimillion salary. You don't know that you'll ever have to talk about the skeleton in your closet on a national level, he said. I did this for health purposes. There's no way I did this for any type of strength use. McGwire hit a then-record 70 homers in 1998 during a compelling race with Sammy Sosa , who finished with 66. More
Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
They look a little odder than standard anime eyes to me--almost hollow or empty somehow. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:13:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Pardon... all thumbs, sent that last too soon. Meant to add that the eyes don't throw me, personally. Used to it from anime viewing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:58 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Yeah, i couldn't get into the Spectacular Spider-Man toon either. Those big eyes are kinda creepy, and Peter and others seem to be a bit too small. without Raimi's control, who knows what this movie will be? :( - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:10:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Keith, I don't even think I'll waste my time on it. I've been rewatching the last version of Spectacular Spider-Man on Disney XD, and it's clearly aimed at the younger crowd, not something I really want to see. Watching one ep in which SPidey was fighting basically all of his Rogues' Gallery reminded me of a single issue of ASM (can't remember which) in which Spidey was fighting someone (again, pardon me crappy memory), being beaten almost to a pulp, but never giving in. Made me a fan of his all over again. IMO, that one ish, made into a movie, would make me happy for years, if done faithfully to the text. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi , you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying ( via Twitter ) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood 's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4 . Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
man give lost a new chance. you can rent seasons now start with mid 3rd or
when the 5 get back home and then it'll carry you .It's definitely got it's
second wind back. As for the big 3 I fell in love with cable because
they will play new episodes more than once. just come in late and there it
is again.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:
Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella's done in Mexico.
They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It
was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should
have been used for Lost. Good show, but it dragged on so many
years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and
interest.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows
by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv?
Wisdom, pure and simple.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not
to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving
them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't
get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me
stop...they'll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys!
Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie
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*From:* B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
*To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM
*Subject:* [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have
choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never
get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting
also hurt network drama too.
Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few
years:
Dirty Sexy Money
Southland
The Unusuals
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Dollhouse
Life On Mars
Journeyman
My Own Worst Enemy
And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but
all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of
marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them.
And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available
most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand
American network execs.
--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr.
Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote:
I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many
good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have
been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker013@ ...wrote:
Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness
(the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a
decent
TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube. com/watch?
v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
The new cop drama Southland was given very little time to catch fire
on
NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of
course,
Leverage is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan
is
part of the cast for at least a little while?
You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of
the
so-called broadcast networks. Look at the list of shows currently on
TNT:
The Closer...Dark Blue...HawthoRNe. ..Leverage. ..Men of a Certain
Age...Raising the Bar... Saving Grace...Southland. ..Angel.. .Bones...
Charmed
Cold Case... CSI: NY...ER...Las Vegas...Law
Order...Numb3rs. ..Supernatural
Then look at the great shows on USA Network: Burn Notice,
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Really? Eccleston's the first Doctor I ever watched. So, when he was introduced and met Rose, had he just popped in from this war? - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:50:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Nah, that would be McGann's Doctor, and it's assumed those events forced him to regenerate into Eccleston's Doctor. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Is Eccleston's Doctor the incarnation that fought the battle with the Daleks in which so many died? And, I'm a bit confused now. When was that apocalyptic battle fought, in our past or future? Also, I thought all the Daleks were annihilated, and the Time Lords too. The Tennant ep however, seems to indicate the Time Lords didn't die, just were shifted outside of our spacetime into a kind of limbo? Did the Doctor kill all the Daleks? Did he strand his own people in limbo? And was his home world destroyed? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:02:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink It was, Keith. And Eccleston did the ep that's managed to place itself among Logopolis, Blink, Silence in the Library and Doomsday as a favorite, The End of the World. When the plant lady recognized the Doctor as a Time Lord and said so, the look in his eyes, guilt, agony and sadness all tied up in one bundle -- *priceless*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:03:16 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Do yourself a favor and check out Eccleston's stuff. He was very good. Full of barely controlled rage and stupefying sadness was he. I think he was the Doctor in a really good, creepy two-parter in which people get infected and have their faces literally turn into WWI era gas masks! Then they go around aksing people Are you my mommy? I can't find my mommy. Creeepy! I think that's the show that introduced Captain Jack. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:05:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did you think about Tennant's final moments as the Doctor? I was surprised to see him go not quietly into the night. When he was yelling I'm not ready! it was poignant. What exactly is the reason for this regeneration (outside the needs of the producers to keep a show running for decades). How different is the new Doctor each time? Does he remember every single action, feeling, and thought his previous incarnation had? - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
yeah, I hear you. You know, the problem is, the way the networks air shows is contributing to the deterioration of the standard audience viewing patterns of decades past, and then the deterioration of those viewing patterns makes the networks think it's okay the way they're changing things. I remember--and miss--the old days when a show got a solid 26 - 28 eps, aired all new shows for an entire season, then ran reruns during the summer. Nowadays shows might get canceled after four eps, a successful run is maybe a dozen shows, and reruns often start within two months of the season premiere. Throw in this new concept of two mini-seasons (a season 1.0, and a season 1.5 starting in January, for example), and it makes it very very difficult to watch many series with regularity. The days of a family being able to sit together to watch a show at the same time every week for weeks on end are fast ending. And that makes people either get lost, lose interest, or accumulate a whole hell of a lot of stuff on DVR. i know some people now who, because of all this rerunning and season breaks, don't even watch series until all are finally aired months after premiere. That's what happened to me with Lost. They kept rerunning shows after airing only two or three new eps, moved catch up shows to odd days, and introduced those interminable mid-season breaks. It became too difficult for me to keep up, and I just said the hell with it. I *like* the concept of watching the same show at the same time every week, but fear that's fading... - Original Message - From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:06:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week man give lost a new chance. you can rent seasons now start with mid 3rd or when the 5 get back home and then it'll carry you .It's definitely got it's second wind back. As for the big 3 I fell in love with cable because they will play new episodes more than once. just come in late and there it is again. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella's done in Mexico. They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should have been used for Lost. Good show, but it dragged on so many years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and interest. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week ...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? Wisdom, pure and simple. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me stop...they'll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting also hurt network drama too. Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few years: Dirty Sexy Money Southland The Unusuals Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Dollhouse Life On Mars Journeyman My Own Worst Enemy And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them. And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand American network execs. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ...
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink
Now that I think of it, I think Eccleston's Doctor was first shown on the Tardis looking at himself as if for the first time. I seem to remember him commenting on the fact that he had rather large ears. So maybe he had just gotten a new body when the series aired. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:12:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Really? Eccleston's the first Doctor I ever watched. So, when he was introduced and met Rose, had he just popped in from this war? - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:50:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Nah, that would be McGann's Doctor, and it's assumed those events forced him to regenerate into Eccleston's Doctor. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Is Eccleston's Doctor the incarnation that fought the battle with the Daleks in which so many died? And, I'm a bit confused now. When was that apocalyptic battle fought, in our past or future? Also, I thought all the Daleks were annihilated, and the Time Lords too. The Tennant ep however, seems to indicate the Time Lords didn't die, just were shifted outside of our spacetime into a kind of limbo? Did the Doctor kill all the Daleks? Did he strand his own people in limbo? And was his home world destroyed? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:02:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink It was, Keith. And Eccleston did the ep that's managed to place itself among Logopolis, Blink, Silence in the Library and Doomsday as a favorite, The End of the World. When the plant lady recognized the Doctor as a Time Lord and said so, the look in his eyes, guilt, agony and sadness all tied up in one bundle -- *priceless*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:03:16 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink Do yourself a favor and check out Eccleston's stuff. He was very good. Full of barely controlled rage and stupefying sadness was he. I think he was the Doctor in a really good, creepy two-parter in which people get infected and have their faces literally turn into WWI era gas masks! Then they go around aksing people Are you my mommy? I can't find my mommy. Creeepy! I think that's the show that introduced Captain Jack. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:05:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who's Blink I never saw any of the Eccleston episodes (Tom Baker is my Doctor) as I did not rejoin the series until Freema Agyeman joined the cast as the new companion, Martha Jones. During the New Year's Day Marathon, I saw snippets of Eccleston in the Inside the TARDIS episode. Love the leather jacket. I will have to add that season to my Netflix queue. By the by, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all the David Tennant episodes, especially those with Billie Piper. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Eccleston was my Favorite, but some how Tennant got me too. I found parts of the finale weak, but Tenneant performance was outstanding. I’m gonna miss him From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who's Blink Tracey, that is good news. I had no idea the guy behind Blink is the new showrunner. That bodes well. The new Doctor has very blocky features, almost like a caveman, and is a big guy to boot. Quite a change, but that's the idea, eh? I still miss Chris Eccleston in the role. His Doctor had such a dark , pained side, he was borderline menacing at times. Is he the Doctor who directly jumped from the final battle with the Daleks where untold millions died? What did
[scifinoir2] Re: Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police?
Before the end of this year, which will be tragic for everyone, your mindless quip will become mote as beloved Obama and his democratic administration will prove to be a divine godsend! Bill Clinton and beloved Jimmy Carter are doing this world great service, then why are you not asking the wicked republicans like the notorious Mr. Armagreeddoom Bushies and heartless Dicky Cheney the same question? If you were, it would mean that you are on the right path instead of being in the ranks of the wicked. Pity you --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: I agree totally. I don't care for Obama much, but I do not begrudge him for the strategy of avoiding race issues. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? I'd say yes, and I'd say he's smart for doing so. The minute the discussion on race begins is the day any work in Washington stops getting done. And, if the wrong words come out in this, he runs the risk of giving the racists (Beck, Limbaugh et all) ammo. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:32:13 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNx8JRc5sI Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now.
[scifinoir2] Conan Makes Quintessential ORM Power Move (online reputation management)
More marketing mixed with pop culture. http://outspokenmedia.com/reputation-management/orm-example/?utm_source=fee dburnerutm_medium=email Conan Makes Quintessential ORM Power Move Posted: 13 Jan 2010 07:14 AM PST The Internet's Hero It's been hard to ignore the black cloud hovering over NBC the past week. The whole network has been rooted in unrest as Jay Leno's prime time show was canceled and whispers became loud rumors that everyone in the lineup would do a backwards shuffle - Jay would move back to the coveted 11:35pm slot, Conan and The Tonight Show would be forced out til the next morning at 12:05am, and well, let's not even get into what happens to the Not Funny Jimmy Fallon or poor Carson Daly (yeah.he still works there). But even all that was just rumor. The truth is, neither audience, nor talent, has any idea what's happening. Both Jay and Conan are forced to awkwardly address the unknown in their monologues each night and all we get are tension-filled jokes that do nothing but make everyone feel uncomfortable. It's like the network was waiting for us to pick sides. Well, yesterday most of us did. We picked Conan's. Tuesday afternoon Conan O'Brien elected himself the adult in the room and spoke. And he addressed his fans and the network with such grace and honesty that the entire Internet fell in love with him. http://mashable.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-statement/ He won our hearts in such a way that the letter should be preserved as one of http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont- do-tonight-show-following-leno/ the best handled branding nightmares to date. That letter has probably saved Conan millions of dollars in his next contract. Here's the thing: Before yesterday afternoon, the network was just waiting for Conan to quit. They didn't care about his fate. They wanted him to disappear and for Jay to take back his slot so everyone could pretend the original swap never happened. He had no leverage to protect himself. Nothing to hold onto. With the letter, he does. Conan's letter to 'the people of Earth' was the perfect example of how pro-active http://outspokenmedia.com/services/online-reputation-management/ online reputation management can change an entire conversation and earn brand affinity. The http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=242166564197 Team Conan Facebook page exploded with thousands of new fans as news of the letter was made public. People are now invested in his plight. Why? Because the way he addressed the public was honest, humble and presented Conan being a class act. Will that letter impact NBC's decision? Probably not. Conan will probably still get screwed. But when they move Leno back and Conan nobly steps down, you can bet his offers have just skyrocketed, both in numbers and cents. People feel far more invested in what happens to him than they did 24 hours ago. Even if NBC doesn't care about Conan, his audience does. They will fight for him. And more importantly, a huge spotlight was cast on the truth of what happened. NBC is now the villain; Conan is the hero. That's how you save a brand. If you want to see pro-active ORM done right, http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont- do-tonight-show-following-leno/ go read the letter There are five main steps to defusing a potential http://outspokenmedia.com/services/online-reputation-management/ online reputation management or branding nightmare. They more or less go something like this: 1. Control the message by explaining, in simple and honest terms, exactly what happened/ is happening. 2. Don't get emotional or look for sympathy. Just state the facts. 3. Admit any wrongdoing, if applicable. 4. Show grace and humor. 5. Offer a resolution or plan of attack for the future to calm fears. .
[scifinoir2] Why Is Haiti so Poor -Do you know why?
Hi Members, If ever you wanted to know why Haiti is impoverish and dirt poor, check out this Democracy Now video. It is all 100 percent truth! I do hope all will take the time to watch it and let me know what you think about it please! http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24388.htm The wicked ENDTIME - NOT the RIGHTEOUS. http://Zetaheaven.org
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police?
My response, was short but not mindless. I'm not a big fan of Obama anymore. I have many reasons that I have given a great deal of thought about. Would I vote for him again? Probably, because of the issues you mentioned below, but that does not mean I have to like everything he does. I did not say I did not like him - I said I did not like him that much. However, I can support someone politically and not like him. That being said, what is wrong with someone not supporting him politically? I know some liberals who no longer support him. If he does get the economy back on track, perhaps that will change who knows. You mentioned the word mindless. Why not use your mind and engage that person in an intellectual discussion and ask them why they do not support your candidate? In your possibly mindless response, I think you misread my email. I was basically saying that I do not think he should be addressing race because it would hurt him in his efforts to fix the economy. I support many of his policies and others I do not. One of the things I like about being a liberal is that most of us do not follow our leaders blindly. We are not in lock step with eachother we are an unwieldy, diverse group with a variety of opinions. We work to keep our leaders honest and do not put them on impossible pedestals that they are bound to fall off of. Based on your attack, I guess you subscribe to the republican sheeple approach to being a democrat. Criticism of leader you support, or supporting someone your criticize is forbidden and we all support exactly the same issues , huh? While it seems like a closed-minded ill-informed approach, it is your prerogative. However, I suggest that you take some deep cleansing breaths, maybe find your glasses, and reread what I wrote From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of broali4x Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:32 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? Before the end of this year, which will be tragic for everyone, your mindless quip will become mote as beloved Obama and his democratic administration will prove to be a divine godsend! Bill Clinton and beloved Jimmy Carter are doing this world great service, then why are you not asking the wicked republicans like the notorious Mr. Armagreeddoom Bushies and heartless Dicky Cheney the same question? If you were, it would mean that you are on the right path instead of being in the ranks of the wicked. Pity you --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: I agree totally. I don't care for Obama much, but I do not begrudge him for the strategy of avoiding race issues. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:23 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? I'd say yes, and I'd say he's smart for doing so. The minute the discussion on race begins is the day any work in Washington stops getting done. And, if the wrong words come out in this, he runs the risk of giving the racists (Beck, Limbaugh et all) ammo. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:32:13 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNx8JRc5sI Is Obama running away from race like a black man from the police? _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now.
[scifinoir2] FW: Ghost galaxies may haunt the Milky Way
From: Chris de Morsella [mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:33 PM To: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: Ghost galaxies may haunt the Milky Way http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18357-ghost-galaxies-may-haunt-the-mil ky-way.html Ghost galaxies may haunt the Milky Way Though telescopes are capable of detecting galaxies billions of light years distant, they may be missing many in our own cosmic backyard. Hundreds of our nearest neighbours could have eluded detection due to their feeble light output, new calculations suggest. Telescopic surveys have detected a handful of very faint nearby galaxies, the dimmest of which is just a few http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14763-astronomers-find-universes-dimm est-known-galaxy.html hundred times as bright as the sun. But even dimmer galaxies are likely hiding out there, say James Bullock http://www.physics.uci.edu/%7Ebullock/ of the University of California in Irvine and his colleagues (arxiv.org/abs/0912.1873). Galaxies with less dark matter than those found to date would have a weaker gravitational hold on their stars, allowing them to spread out more. These more diffuse galaxies would be especially hard to spot amidst the clutter of foreground stars in our own galaxy. There absolutely could be a population of extremely low-surface-brightness dwarfs that have evaded detection, says Beth Willman http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/bwillman of Haverford College in Pennsylvania, who was not involved in the study. Future observatories, such as the Large http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9200-unique-widefield-telescope-will- make-sky-movies.html Synoptic Survey Telescope could find them, she says.
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
What I mean is that was what the execs were saying when they made the change initially to save money. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: No, I think they wanted this to be permanent, or at least the model for a future where shows like it dominated the 10 pm slot. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:39:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy [image: Conan OBrien] His future at NBC uncertain, *Conan O'Brien* released a statementhttp://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Times reportedhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/business/media/12conan.htmlon Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his showhttp://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I think that can happen at some point in the near future because there is so much of a cultural exchange that we will end up sounding like the most dominant culture. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: That would be a nightmare. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:45:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again
Picking chin up off of my keyboard On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Related to the conversation where I'd noted the Brits seem to use more women with real shapes (at least in Dr. Who). Although, even here i see perceptions have changed. I mean, in what universe is Catherine Zeta-Jones considered curvy? She's beautiful, but I'd call her slim at best. A related article I read was talking about something called the waist-to-hip ratio, which supposedly measures a woman's curves. It claimed a WTH of 0.7 indicated a perfect figure. Then, however, the article said that women with that perfect figure included Selma Hayek, Jessica Alba, and Audrey Hepburn? Huh? Hayek's got the curves, sho' 'nuff. Alba ain't anything close to what i'd consider curvacious. Fit, but not Coke-bottle curvy. And Hepburn?? My goodness, on this scale, the likes of Pam Grier, Kenya Moore, Nichele Nichols, and other classic voluptuous sisters would be considered overweight! So much of this conversation on beauty frankly ignores whole groups of people. I rarely see African American or Latina women talked about as the standards, unless it's something stupid like last year's fixation on Michele Obama's arms. At any rate, I hope this is a trend reversing, and more women the world over realize that being anorexic-looking isn't a standard of beauty worth worth obtaining. *** British women 'want to be curvy not thin' (AFP) – Jul 22, 2009 LONDON — British women hanker after a curvy hourglass body shape rather than trying to be ultra slim, preferring Kate Winslet to Kate Moss, according to a poll published Wednesday. Sixty percent admitted to being either an apple or pear shape, but 75 percent said they wanted a figure like Catherine Zeta-Jones or Marilyn Monroe, against only 10 percent who wanted to squeeze into a slim size 10 dress. The findings reflect changing attitudes in Britain -- where obesity is a growing problem -- among women tired of the so-called Size Zero culture long fuelled by advertising and the fashion industry. The report shows that women's attitudes to slimming over the last 50 years have changed with their figures, said Laura Bryant of the food company which commissioned the poll of 2,000 women. It seems British women have lost their waists but now they are demanding them back. And she added: They are more concerned about getting a curvy hourglass shape like their grandmothers instead of being the perfect size 10 which shows a marked shift in attitude from the 80s and 90s, when success and failure when slimming was benchmarked against fitting into certain sized clothes. A top-10 list of female celebrities whose shape inspired women was topped by buxom TV cook Nigella Lawson and actresses Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, and Joanna Lumley. The findings might raise eyebrows in neighbouring France, which has the highest proportion of clinically underweight women in Europe, according to a study published in April. Only half of those French women think they are thin, said the study, noting that in Britain, Spain and Portugal, the number of women who see themselves as seriously skinny easily outstrips the number who actually are. A study last December found that one in three adults in England will be obese by the time London hosts the 2012 Olympics. Between 1993 and 2004 the proportion of obese people rose significantly, from almost 13.6 percent to 24 percent among men and from almost 17 percent to 24.4 percent among women, according to University College London researchers. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again
I agree, Keith...what was called curvy, voluptuous, and sexy in the 50's, 60's, and 70's they now call thick... However, regardless of what we see or hear on tv, 'thick' women are very much preferred on the streets...no matter what race, creed or color men are... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:55:52 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again Related to the conversation where I'd noted the Brits seem to use more women with real shapes (at least in Dr. Who). Although, even here i see perceptions have changed. I mean, in what universe is Catherine Zeta-Jones considered curvy? She's beautiful, but I'd call her slim at best. A related article I read was talking about something called the waist-to-hip ratio, which supposedly measures a woman's curves. It claimed a WTH of 0.7 indicated a perfect figure. Then, however, the article said that women with that perfect figure included Selma Hayek, Jessica Alba, and Audrey Hepburn? Huh? Hayek's got the curves, sho' 'nuff. Alba ain't anything close to what i'd consider curvacious. Fit, but not Coke-bottle curvy. And Hepburn?? My goodness, on this scale, the likes of Pam Grier, Kenya Moore, Nichele Nichols, and other classic voluptuous sisters would be considered overweight! So much of this conversation on beauty frankly ignores whole groups of people. I rarely see African American or Latina women talked about as the standards, unless it's something stupid like last year's fixation on Michele Obama's arms. At any rate, I hope this is a trend reversing, and more women the world over realize that being anorexic-looking isn't a standard of beauty worth worth obtaining. * * * * * * * British women 'want to be curvy not thin' (AFP) – Jul 22, 2009 LONDON — British women hanker after a curvy hourglass body shape rather than trying to be ultra slim, preferring Kate Winslet to Kate Moss, according to a poll published Wednesday. Sixty percent admitted to being either an apple or pear shape, but 75 percent said they wanted a figure like Catherine Zeta-Jones or Marilyn Monroe, against only 10 percent who wanted to squeeze into a slim size 10 dress. The findings reflect changing attitudes in Britain -- where obesity is a growing problem -- among women tired of the so-called Size Zero culture long fuelled by advertising and the fashion industry. The report shows that women's attitudes to slimming over the last 50 years have changed with their figures, said Laura Bryant of the food company which commissioned the poll of 2,000 women. It seems British women have lost their waists but now they are demanding them back. And she added: They are more concerned about getting a curvy hourglass shape like their grandmothers instead of being the perfect size 10 which shows a marked shift in attitude from the 80s and 90s, when success and failure when slimming was benchmarked against fitting into certain sized clothes. A top-10 list of female celebrities whose shape inspired women was topped by buxom TV cook Nigella Lawson and actresses Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, and Joanna Lumley. The findings might raise eyebrows in neighbouring France, which has the highest proportion of clinically underweight women in Europe, according to a study published in April. Only half of those French women think they are thin, said the study, noting that in Britain, Spain and Portugal, the number of women who see themselves as seriously skinny easily outstrips the number who actually are. A study last December found that one in three adults in England will be obese by the time London hosts the 2012 Olympics. Between 1993 and 2004 the proportion of obese people rose significantly , from almost 13.6 percent to 24 percent among men and from almost 17 percent to 24.4 percent among women, according to University College London researchers.
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again
I was having a conversation earlier tonight about this topic. There are some guys that only want super skinny women, but MEN want a curvy woman. :) On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:57 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote: I agree, Keith...what was called curvy, voluptuous, and sexy in the 50's, 60's, and 70's they now call thick... However, regardless of what we see or hear on tv, 'thick' women are very much preferred on the streets...no matter what race, creed or color men are... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie -- *From:* Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 13, 2010 10:55:52 PM *Subject:* [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again Related to the conversation where I'd noted the Brits seem to use more women with real shapes (at least in Dr. Who). Although, even here i see perceptions have changed. I mean, in what universe is Catherine Zeta-Jones considered curvy? She's beautiful, but I'd call her slim at best. A related article I read was talking about something called the waist-to-hip ratio, which supposedly measures a woman's curves. It claimed a WTH of 0.7 indicated a perfect figure. Then, however, the article said that women with that perfect figure included Selma Hayek, Jessica Alba, and Audrey Hepburn? Huh? Hayek's got the curves, sho' 'nuff. Alba ain't anything close to what i'd consider curvacious. Fit, but not Coke-bottle curvy. And Hepburn?? My goodness, on this scale, the likes of Pam Grier, Kenya Moore, Nichele Nichols, and other classic voluptuous sisters would be considered overweight! So much of this conversation on beauty frankly ignores whole groups of people. I rarely see African American or Latina women talked about as the standards, unless it's something stupid like last year's fixation on Michele Obama's arms. At any rate, I hope this is a trend reversing, and more women the world over realize that being anorexic-looking isn't a standard of beauty worth worth obtaining. * * * * * * * British women 'want to be curvy not thin' (AFP) – Jul 22, 2009 LONDON — British women hanker after a curvy hourglass body shape rather than trying to be ultra slim, preferring Kate Winslet to Kate Moss, according to a poll published Wednesday. Sixty percent admitted to being either an apple or pear shape, but 75 percent said they wanted a figure like Catherine Zeta-Jones or Marilyn Monroe, against only 10 percent who wanted to squeeze into a slim size 10 dress. The findings reflect changing attitudes in Britain -- where obesity is a growing problem -- among women tired of the so-called Size Zero culture long fuelled by advertising and the fashion industry. The report shows that women's attitudes to slimming over the last 50 years have changed with their figures, said Laura Bryant of the food company which commissioned the poll of 2,000 women. It seems British women have lost their waists but now they are demanding them back. And she added: They are more concerned about getting a curvy hourglass shape like their grandmothers instead of being the perfect size 10 which shows a marked shift in attitude from the 80s and 90s, when success and failure when slimming was benchmarked against fitting into certain sized clothes. A top-10 list of female celebrities whose shape inspired women was topped by buxom TV cook Nigella Lawson and actresses Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, and Joanna Lumley. The findings might raise eyebrows in neighbouring France, which has the highest proportion of clinically underweight women in Europe, according to a study published in April. Only half of those French women think they are thin, said the study, noting that in Britain, Spain and Portugal, the number of women who see themselves as seriously skinny easily outstrips the number who actually are. A study last December found that one in three adults in England will be obese by the time London hosts the 2012 Olympics. Between 1993 and 2004 the proportion of obese people rose significantly , from almost 13.6 percent to 24 percent among men and from almost 17 percent to 24.4 percent among women, according to University College London researchers. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again
That should be on a T-shirt J From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:03 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again I was having a conversation earlier tonight about this topic. There are some guys that only want super skinny women, but MEN want a curvy woman. :) On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:57 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree, Keith...what was called curvy, voluptuous, and sexy in the 50's, 60's, and 70's they now call thick... However, regardless of what we see or hear on tv, 'thick' women are very much preferred on the streets...no matter what race, creed or color men are... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:55:52 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again Related to the conversation where I'd noted the Brits seem to use more women with real shapes (at least in Dr. Who). Although, even here i see perceptions have changed. I mean, in what universe is Catherine Zeta-Jones considered curvy? She's beautiful, but I'd call her slim at best. A related article I read was talking about something called the waist-to-hip ratio, which supposedly measures a woman's curves. It claimed a WTH of 0.7 indicated a perfect figure. Then, however, the article said that women with that perfect figure included Selma Hayek, Jessica Alba, and Audrey Hepburn? Huh? Hayek's got the curves, sho' 'nuff. Alba ain't anything close to what i'd consider curvacious. Fit, but not Coke-bottle curvy. And Hepburn?? My goodness, on this scale, the likes of Pam Grier, Kenya Moore, Nichele Nichols, and other classic voluptuous sisters would be considered overweight! So much of this conversation on beauty frankly ignores whole groups of people. I rarely see African American or Latina women talked about as the standards, unless it's something stupid like last year's fixation on Michele Obama's arms. At any rate, I hope this is a trend reversing, and more women the world over realize that being anorexic-looking isn't a standard of beauty worth worth obtaining. * * * * * * * British women 'want to be curvy not thin' (AFP) – Jul 22, 2009 LONDON — British women hanker after a curvy hourglass body shape rather than trying to be ultra slim, preferring Kate Winslet to Kate Moss, according to a poll published Wednesday. Sixty percent admitted to being either an apple or pear shape, but 75 percent said they wanted a figure like Catherine Zeta-Jones or Marilyn Monroe, against only 10 percent who wanted to squeeze into a slim size 10 dress. The findings reflect changing attitudes in Britain -- where obesity is a growing problem -- among women tired of the so-called Size Zero culture long fuelled by advertising and the fashion industry. The report shows that women's attitudes to slimming over the last 50 years have changed with their figures, said Laura Bryant of the food company which commissioned the poll of 2,000 women. It seems British women have lost their waists but now they are demanding them back. And she added: They are more concerned about getting a curvy hourglass shape like their grandmothers instead of being the perfect size 10 which shows a marked shift in attitude from the 80s and 90s, when success and failure when slimming was benchmarked against fitting into certain sized clothes. A top-10 list of female celebrities whose shape inspired women was topped by buxom TV cook Nigella Lawson and actresses Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, and Joanna Lumley. The findings might raise eyebrows in neighbouring France, which has the highest proportion of clinically underweight women in Europe, according to a study published in April. Only half of those French women think they are thin, said the study, noting that in Britain, Spain and Portugal, the number of women who see themselves as seriously skinny easily outstrips the number who actually are. A study last December found that one in three adults in England will be obese by the time London hosts the 2012 Olympics. Between 1993 and 2004 the proportion of obese people rose significantly , from almost 13.6 percent to 24 percent among men and from almost 17 percent to 24.4 percent among women, according to University College London researchers. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
Hmm...are you looking at the eyes or the storylines? Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 7:05:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses They look a little odder than standard anime eyes to me--almost hollow or empty somehow. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:13:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Pardon... all thumbs, sent that last too soon. Meant to add that the eyes don't throw me, personally. Used to it from anime viewing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:58 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Yeah, i couldn't get into the Spectacular Spider-Man toon either. Those big eyes are kinda creepy, and Peter and others seem to be a bit too small. without Raimi's control, who knows what this movie will be? :( - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:10:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Keith, I don't even think I'll waste my time on it. I've been rewatching the last version of Spectacular Spider-Man on Disney XD, and it's clearly aimed at the younger crowd, not something I really want to see. Watching one ep in which SPidey was fighting basically all of his Rogues' Gallery reminded me of a single issue of ASM (can't remember which) in which Spidey was fighting someone (again, pardon me crappy memory), being beaten almost to a pulp, but never giving in. Made me a fan of his all over again. IMO, that one ish, made into a movie, would make me happy for years, if done faithfully to the text. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. * * * *** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying (via Twitter) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after
Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use
Horrible...I'm so sorry to hear that, my friend... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 7:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use wow... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:07:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Not I, Keith. Might muster a bit for him on the day his ehalth goes into a tailspin because of the repeated usage of that crap. I take far weaker steroids for my respiratory condition, and it's messed me up badly. Some days, I can barely hold a pencil or walk a straight line. I may have to surrender my driver's license if I don't show some normalization. The stuff he and others pump into themselves is TOXIC. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:52:54 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Thanks. ESPN has been discussing and rerunning excerpts from McGwire's tearful confession all day. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guy... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use LMNAOSMIH (So Much It Hurts)!! ! ! ! ! !! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] McGwire Publicly Admits to Steroid Use Shocking, unfathomable, earth-shattering, completely unexpected, surprising beyond belief! And, in related news: Rush Limbaugh tearfully admits to being an ignorant, backwater racist... Whitney Houston slurs confession that she hasn't *quite* kicked the habit... George Bush II laughs that he never did care about no weapons of mass destruction. .. Michael Steele proclaims, I wish more white people thought of *me* as a good, safe 'Negro'! Simon Cowell overheard saying, no one with any real talent ever came out of 'American Idol'... Tiger Woods states in interview I think I have some issues with my skin color.. Dick Cheney relates that he hates--everyone. .. * * * * http://sports. espn.go.com/ mlb/news/ story?id= 4816607 NEW YORK -- Mark McGwire finally came clean, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998. McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked. It's very emotional, it's telling family members, friends and coaches, you know, it's former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I'm coming clean and being honest, he said. It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody. McGwire said he called commissioner Bud Selig and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa earlier in the day to personally apologize. In an interview with ESPN's Baseball Tonight, La Russa said he didn't know McGwire had used steroids until the slugger had admitted using performance- enhancing drugs in the phone call to the manager earlier Monday. I'm really encouraged that he would step forward, La Russa told ESPN. As we go along his explanations will be well received. Selig, in a statement released by Major League Baseball on Monday, said he was pleased with McGwire's admission. I am pleased that Mark McGwire has confronted his use of performance- enhancing substances as a player. Being truthful is always the correct course of action, which is why I had commissioned Senator George Mitchell to conduct his investigation. This statement of contrition, I believe, will make Mark's re-entry into the game much smoother and easier, Selig said. McGwire said he also used human growth hormone, and he didn't know if his use of performance- enhancing drugs contributed to some of the injuries that led to his retirement, at age 38, in 2001. That's a good question, he said. He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
You know, Keith, like the X-Files, I've never watched an episode of Lost since it has been on the air...Other shows I regret not seeing were Alias and 24...I know, I hear the gasps of surprise already... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 5:51:57 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella' s done in Mexico. They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should have been used for Lost. Good show, but it dragged on so many years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and interest. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week ...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? Wisdom, pure and simple. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me stop...they' ll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting also hurt network drama too. Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few years: Dirty Sexy Money Southland The Unusuals Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Dollhouse Life On Mars Journeyman My Own Worst Enemy And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them. And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand American network execs. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness (the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a decent TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ ... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The new cop drama Southland was given very little time to catch fire on NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of course, Leverage is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan is part of the cast for at least a little while? You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of the so-called broadcast networks. Look at the list of shows currently on TNT: The Closer...Dark Blue...HawthoRNe. ..Leverage. ..Men of a Certain Age...Raising the Bar... Saving Grace...Southland. ..Angel.. .Bones... Charmed Cold Case... CSI: NY...ER...Las Vegas...Law Order...Numb3rs. ..Supernatural Then look at the great shows on USA Network: Burn Notice, Psych, In
Re: [scifinoir2] Old Age
I know I am getting old...At the family Christmas get together, I was chastised by my baby sister for discussing my bodily funtions...my god, I've turned into my Uncle Jon... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 5:37:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Old Age An elderly gentleman... Had serious hearing problems for a number of years. He went to the doctor and the doctor was able to have him fitted for a set of hearing aids that allowed the gentleman to hear 100% . The elderly gentleman went back in a month to the doctor and the doctor said, 'Your hearing is perfect. Your family must be really pleased that you can hear again.' The gentleman replied, 'Oh, I haven't told my family yet. I just sit around and listen to the conversations. I've changed my will three times!' Two elderly gentlemen from a retirement center were sitting on a bench under a tree when one turns to the other and says: 'Slim, I'm 83 years old now and I'm just full of aches and pains. I know you're about my age. How do you feel?' Slim says, 'I feel just like a newborn baby.' 'Really!? Like a newborn baby!?' 'Yep. No hair, no teeth, and I think I just wet my pants.' An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The two gentlemen were talking, and one said, 'Last night we went out to a new restaurant and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly.' The other man said, 'What is the name of the restaurant?' The first man thought and thought and finally said, 'What is the name of that flower you give to someone you love? You know... The one that's red and has thorns.' 'Do you mean a rose?' 'Yes, that's the one,' replied the man. He then turned towards the kitchen and yelled, 'Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?' Hospital regulations require a wheel chair for patients being discharged. However, while working as a student nurse, I found one elderly gentleman already dressed and sitting on the bed with a suitcase at his feet, who insisted he didn't need my help to leave the hospital. After a chat about rules being rules, he reluctantly let me wheel him to the elevator. On the way down I asked him if his wife was meeting him. 'I don't know,' he said 'She's still upstairs in the bathroom changing out of her hospital gown.' Couple in their nineties are both having problems remembering things. During a checkup, the doctor tells them that they're physically okay, but they might want to start writing things down to help them remember. Later that night, while watching TV, the old man gets up from his chair. 'Want anything while I'm in the kitchen?' he asks. 'Will you get me a bowl of ice cream?' 'Sure.' 'Don't you think you should write it down so you can remember it?' she asks. 'No , I can remember it.' 'Well, I'd like some strawberries on top, too. Maybe you should write it down, so's not to forget it?' He says, 'I can remember that. You want a bowl of ice cream with strawberries. ' 'I'd also like whipped cream. I'm certain you'll forget that, write it down?' she asks. Irritated, he says, 'I don't need to write it down, I can remember it! Ice cream with strawberries and whipped cream - I got it, for goodness sake!' Then he toddles into the kitchen. After about 20 minutes, the old man returns from the kitchen and hands his wife a plate of bacon and eggs. She stares at the plate for a moment. 'Where's my toast ?' A senior citizen said to his eighty-year old buddy: 'So I hear you're getting married?' 'Yep!' 'Do I know her?' 'Nope!' 'This woman, is she good looking?' 'Not really.' 'Is she a good cook?' 'Naw, she can't cook too well.' 'Does she have lots of money?' 'Nope! Poor as a church mouse.' 'Well, then, is she good in bed?' 'I don't know.' 'Why in the world do you want to marry her then?' 'Because she can still drive!' Three old guys are out walking. First one says, 'Windy, isn't it?' Second one says, 'No, it's Thursday!' Third one says, 'So am I. Let's go get a beer.' A man was telling his neighbour, 'I just bought a new hearing aid. It cost me four thousand dollars, but it's state of the art. It's perfect.' 'Really,' answered the neighbor . 'What kind is it?' 'Twelve thirty.' Morris, an 82 year-old man, went to the doctor to get a physical. A few days later, the doctor saw Morris walking down the street with a gorgeous young woman on his arm. A couple of days later, the doctor spoke to Morris and said, 'You're really doing great, aren't you?' Morris replied, 'Just doing what you said, Doc: 'Get a hot mamma and be cheerful.'' The
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
Don't forget Kweith... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 3:10:53 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Apologies for calling you Walter, Mr Worf. Lots of stuff in the inbox. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:39:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Timesreported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT
LMAO... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:39:38 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Pal, once you get it, let me know how to program the thing. I've got one, after switching to DirecTV, and the one time I tried to record something, I knocked myself off the air. (Ask all you like -- I'll be shot if I can tell you. ) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:02:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Gosh...I might have to invest in a decent DVR too... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 12:52:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT It's pleasant and fun, not too taxing, not too serious. Perfect to just have a good time. Not like Southland, which is very grim, but good. - Original Message - From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:45:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT Leverage sounds like a good show...just got cable back so this is a good chance to catch up... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:57:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Marathon on TNT TNT is airing an all-day Leverage marathon, starting at noon EST, running until the season premiere at 10 pm tonight. Also, SyFy is running an all day Outer Limits marathon right now, featuring the newer eps from the '90s. That leads to an an ep of Enterprise at 4 pm. It's a good one, dealing with the Augments storyline. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC
I remember him discussing his contract on tv...Leno was supposed to be done in 2009 and Conan was to be his replacement...Damned right to quit...The bad management was to give Leno the 10pm show! Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:39:16 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC I was under the impression that the Leno move to 10pm was a temporary thing anyway right? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote: Can't blame him in the least. He shouldn't have to suffer for NBC's lack of management skills. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:40 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC Conan Releases Statement, Effectively Quits NBC TVSpy His future at NBC uncertain, Conan O'Brien released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which he rejected NBC's plan to bump his Tonight Show to 12:05 and moved closer to leaving the network. In the approximately 550-word letter, addressed to People of Earth and sent across the news wires at around 3:00pm EST, O'Brien takes a bold stand against his employer and introduces an argument that his lawyers will surely make in negotiating him out of his NBC contract. I sincerely believe that delaying the 'Tonight Show' into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting, he writes. The 'Tonight Show' at 12:05 simply isn't the 'Tonight Show.' Besides emphasizing his respect for the venerable late-night franchise with this statement, O'Brien is picking apart the terms of his contract. The New York Timesreported on Tuesday morning that O'Brien's contract doesn't contain any language that affixes the Tonight Show to a specific timeslot and therefore NBC could call a new 12:05 program the Tonight Show without technically breaching the contract. The Tonight Show, though, has followed the late local news for 60 years and it is clear that O'Brien and his representatives will use this fact in trying to facilitate a quick exit from NBC. While it appears that O'Brien's tenure at NBC is all but over, it is unclear what the veteran late-night host will do next. On his show Tuesday night, O'Brien made light of this uncertainty, greeting his audience by saying, Hello, my name is Conan O'Brien and I may soon be available for children's parties. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Witchblade
IFC is re-airing the anime series Witchblade starting this Monday. If you are not familar with the series, here is more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchblade -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week
Oh my…gasp….. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of C.W. Badie Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:52 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week You know, Keith, like the X-Files, I've never watched an episode of Lost since it has been on the air...Other shows I regret not seeing were Alias and 24...I know, I hear the gasps of surprise already... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 5:51:57 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Yeah, I've long advocated that. It's like the telenovella' s done in Mexico. They have built in expiration dates. JMS did that with Babylon 5 as well. It was always planned to last five years. I said many times this model should have been used for Lost. Good show, but it dragged on so many years--especially with these new crappy half seasons--that I lost track and interest. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week ...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? Wisdom, pure and simple. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week Dollhouse is still around but I can see it's running out of steam...not to change the subject, but I think they could make better tv shows by giving them a finite run...like a novel for tv? That way, the original plot doesn't get beat to crap dumb stuff in between the good ideas...Oh let me stop...they' ll never do it...It makes too much sense...Hi, guys! Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie _ From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:48:13 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The Big 4 still act like they rule the airwaves and viewers don't have choices. They are their own worst enemies. It's sad when good shows never get a chance to grow an audience. The Jay Leno experiment and cost cutting also hurt network drama too. Think about all the interesting shows that got the axe in the last few years: Dirty Sexy Money Southland The Unusuals Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Dollhouse Life On Mars Journeyman My Own Worst Enemy And what were the hits that replaced them? Right. Some weren't great but all had potential and had a core audience that enjoyed them. So instead of marketing to that core and building a hit they dump them. And the sad thing is with dvd, cable and other revenue streams available most of these shows could be profitable for the networks. I don't understand American network execs. --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: I agree. I think the big 4 are mostly clueless. They have killed so many good shows for no good reason. Even some of the award winning shows have been axed and replaced with stupid sitcoms or whatever. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Keith, it's either a matter of money (the lack thereof) or cluelessness (the Big Four's inherent inability to grasp what it takes to make a decent TV show). You can see where I fall on the subject, from my detail. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ ... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:05:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Southland and Leverage on TNT this week The new cop drama Southland was given very little time to catch fire on NBC. It's now been given new life on TNT, starting tonight. And of course, Leverage is back tomorrow with an all new season. I guess Jeri Ryan is part of the cast for at least a little while? You know, cable networks like TNT are stealing a lot of the thunder of the
RE: [scifinoir2] Witchblade
Thanks for the heads up. I was a big fan of the TNT series with Yancy butler. I never knew there was an anime series. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:32 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Witchblade IFC is re-airing the anime series Witchblade starting this Monday. If you are not familar with the series, here is more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchblade -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton?
I listened to the audiobook. The narrative was read by long-time Chicago radio broadcaster Felicia Middlebrook...I was not impressed by at all, Keith... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:00:30 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton? I read it years ago. It's honestly just fair. The first several pages are pure narrative with no dialogue, a common thing for first time writers. I did that once myself in a writing class: narrative that ran on and on, which my teacher loved, but wondered When will you start the dialog? It's got cool concepts: the assassination of the first Black president, white folk literally grafting black people's skin onto their bodies so the enhanced melanin can protect them against ever-increasing UV radiation. I was frankly surprised--pleasant ly so--to see Burton so directly deal with racism in the near-future world he crafted. I'd love to see him writer more books as his skill improves, and wouldn't it be great to speak to him about this book in light of Obama's election? When I read it, and the Black prez is killed by a white homegrown terrorist group, more than a alittle of me believed that can happen whenever we finally get a black prez - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:07:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Has anyone read Aftermath by LeVar Burton? http://www.amazon. com/Aftermath- LeVar-Burton/ dp/0446679607/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1263409529sr=1-1 From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 1:52:27 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? The Plan came off more like a black comedy based on BSG than anything else... Such music flows on the Fringe and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:07:37 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? I was confused on how the skinjob Cylons figured into it. Reading the wiki cleared it up for me. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... wrote: The first show will explain how the Cylons were created. It is 58 years before the 2nd Cylon war. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, B Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote: I've seen Caprica and it was interesting but I'm a bit confused by the timeline and how it fits. Maybe the events Caprica lead to differences in the Centurion style Cylons. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ wrote: Mr. Worf, I watched BSG: The Plan, and I was impressed. More so of how the Cylon modelsexcept for model number 1, all decided that the extermination of the human was morally wrong. thought that that was extremely interesting. Have not seen Caprica yet, but I am waiting on the premiere next week. Dr. Fate --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ Subject: [scifinoir2] Did anyone watch BSG: The Plan, and Caprica? To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26 AM  Just wondering. Both were on tv recently. BSG: The Plan is a replay of the initial Cylon attack that wiped out humanity(?) from the Cylon point of view. It is interesting to do a rewind to see the story behind the scenes. Caprica rewinds the story even farther back to about 58 years before the war with the Cylons began. It also covers the origin of the Cylons. The big difference is that the storyline is more along the lines of an Earth based drama. They are replaying the pilot episode on 1/22. Here is more info on the show: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Caprica_% 28TV_series% 29 Its also on comscum on demand. Has anyone else watched these two shows? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
