Re: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life

[Mr. Worf]

Nope because I loved that aspect too. I think what was refreshing about it
was none of that WWE style posturing before hand.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Again, is it disturbingly wrong for me to say that I enjoyed that aspect of
> the movie?
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:08:18 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life
>
>
>  I enjoyed the pacing of the film. It is very mellow but they click on the
> beatings like flicking on a light switch.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr Worf, I've seen this, and I'm with you all the way. It's on my To Buy
> List (anything that starts off with a kick in the face is worthy of
> purchase, IMO).
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mr. Worf]

I don't think Hollywood thinks like that anymore. I don't think that they
really are looking for great new directors. They are looking for
entertainment makers that will churn out more of the same.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Mike Street  wrote:

>
>
> The diaspora has space for positive and negative movies. I think Precious
> is great film and everyone did a great job regardless of the subject matter.
> Cause a Tyler Perry pic is all we seen to get these days and we are not
> talking about any real topics. So I hope Precious allows other blk directors
> a foot in the door. Cause it seems we have all disappeared.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You're right, but that goes back to my whole original point: H'Wood caters
>> to prejudices and blacks suffer. At some point, doing what's easy and
>> quickly profitable turns into stagnation and resistance to change. It's why
>> in 2010 we still have major discussions about why "Precious" gets all the
>> raves, but the mainstream ignores movies with blacks in more positive roles.
>> Sorry, off my soapbox now!  :) I wanna go read up on your quantum
>> entanglement post.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:13:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"
>>
>>
>>
>> Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a
>> big draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
>> white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
>> one of each equals a cross over.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against
>>> prejudice in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast
>>> opposite Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with
>>> a white dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
>>> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
>>> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>>>
>>> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>>>
>>> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
>>> Crowelooks set to take a 
>>> leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
>>> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
>>> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
>>> talks to appear alongside 
>>> Beyoncéin the Warner Bros 
>>> production.
>>>
>>> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
>>> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
>>> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
>>> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
>>> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
>>> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
>>> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>>>
>>> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
>>> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
>>> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
>>> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>>>
>>> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His
>>> recent films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and
>>> State of Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's
>>> revisionist take on Robin 
>>> Hood
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mike Street]

The diaspora has space for positive and negative movies. I think Precious is
great film and everyone did a great job regardless of the subject matter.
Cause a Tyler Perry pic is all we seen to get these days and we are not
talking about any real topics. So I hope Precious allows other blk directors
a foot in the door. Cause it seems we have all disappeared.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> You're right, but that goes back to my whole original point: H'Wood caters
> to prejudices and blacks suffer. At some point, doing what's easy and
> quickly profitable turns into stagnation and resistance to change. It's why
> in 2010 we still have major discussions about why "Precious" gets all the
> raves, but the mainstream ignores movies with blacks in more positive roles.
> Sorry, off my soapbox now!  :) I wanna go read up on your quantum
> entanglement post.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:13:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"
>
>
>
> Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a
> big draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
> white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
> one of each equals a cross over.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice
>> in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite
>> Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white
>> dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
>> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
>> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>>
>> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>>
>> **
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>>
>> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
>> Crowelooks set to take a 
>> leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
>> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
>> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
>> talks to appear alongside Beyoncéin 
>> the Warner Bros production.
>>
>> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
>> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
>> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
>> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
>> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
>> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
>> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>>
>> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
>> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
>> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
>> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>>
>> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His
>> recent films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and
>> State of Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's
>> revisionist take on Robin 
>> Hood
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mr. Worf]

I totally agree. The worst is having a black actor and he or she is cast as
a thin support character or comic relief.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> You're right, but that goes back to my whole original point: H'Wood caters
> to prejudices and blacks suffer. At some point, doing what's easy and
> quickly profitable turns into stagnation and resistance to change. It's why
> in 2010 we still have major discussions about why "Precious" gets all the
> raves, but the mainstream ignores movies with blacks in more positive roles.
> Sorry, off my soapbox now!  :) I wanna go read up on your quantum
> entanglement post.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:13:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"
>
>
>
> Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a
> big draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
> white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
> one of each equals a cross over.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice
>> in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite
>> Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white
>> dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
>> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
>> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>>
>> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>>
>> **
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>>
>> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
>> Crowelooks set to take a 
>> leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
>> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
>> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
>> talks to appear alongside Beyoncéin 
>> the Warner Bros production.
>>
>> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
>> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
>> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
>> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
>> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
>> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
>> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>>
>> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
>> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
>> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
>> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>>
>> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His
>> recent films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and
>> State of Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's
>> revisionist take on Robin 
>> Hood
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mr. Worf]

That's automatic for me. I never watch movies like that.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Mike Street  wrote:

>
>
> I'm gonna have to Boycott this pic. It just sounds like they are going for
> too much.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a
>> big draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
>> white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
>> one of each equals a cross over.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against
>>> prejudice in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast
>>> opposite Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with
>>> a white dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
>>> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
>>> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>>>
>>> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>>>
>>> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
>>> Crowelooks set to take a 
>>> leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
>>> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
>>> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
>>> talks to appear alongside 
>>> Beyoncéin the Warner Bros 
>>> production.
>>>
>>> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
>>> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
>>> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
>>> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
>>> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
>>> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
>>> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>>>
>>> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
>>> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
>>> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
>>> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>>>
>>> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His
>>> recent films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and
>>> State of Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's
>>> revisionist take on Robin 
>>> Hood
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Keith Johnson]

You're right, but that goes back to my whole original point: H'Wood caters to 
prejudices and blacks suffer. At some point, doing what's easy and quickly 
profitable turns into stagnation and resistance to change. It's why in 2010 we 
still have major discussions about why "Precious" gets all the raves, but the 
mainstream ignores movies with blacks in more positive roles. 
Sorry, off my soapbox now! :) I wanna go read up on your quantum entanglement 
post. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:13:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born" 






Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a big 
draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other white 
guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having one of 
each equals a cross over. 


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice in 
H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite Knowles, they 
skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white dude? I'm already 
reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the interracial relationship. Got 
nothing against that, but again, in a world where black-on-black love doesn't 
get much play on the big screen... 

Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff... 

** 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born 



In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell Crowe looks 
set to take a leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic Hollywood 
melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself eclipsed by a 
younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in talks to appear 
alongside Beyoncé in the Warner Bros production. 

The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an aging 
Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing. The film 
was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely successful 
1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson and re-routed 
the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis Presley was 
initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but reportedly bailed out 
after he was refused top billing. 

The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician who 
embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is pencilled 
in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the likes of Mad 
Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna. 

Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His recent 
films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and State of 
Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's revisionist take on 
Robin Hood . 








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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mike Street]

I'm gonna have to Boycott this pic. It just sounds like they are going for
too much.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a
> big draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
> white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
> one of each equals a cross over.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice
>> in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite
>> Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white
>> dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
>> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
>> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>>
>> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>>
>> **
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>>
>> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
>> Crowelooks set to take a 
>> leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
>> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
>> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
>> talks to appear alongside Beyoncéin 
>> the Warner Bros production.
>>
>> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
>> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
>> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
>> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
>> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
>> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
>> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>>
>> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
>> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
>> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
>> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>>
>> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His
>> recent films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and
>> State of Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's
>> revisionist take on Robin 
>> Hood
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Mr. Worf]

Movie making isn't reality. They are shooting for stars that will have a big
draw. If it wasn't Russell Crowe it would have been Depp, or some other
white guy. Two black people in the roles would equal a "BLACK MOVIE." Having
one of each equals a cross over.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice
> in H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite
> Knowles, they skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white
> dude? I'm already reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the
> interracial relationship. Got nothing against that, but again, in a world
> where black-on-black love doesn't get much play on the big screen...
>
> Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff...
>
> **
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born
>
> In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell 
> Crowelooks set to take a leading 
> role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic
> Hollywood melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself
> eclipsed by a younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in
> talks to appear alongside Beyoncéin 
> the Warner Bros production.
>
> The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an
> aging Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing.
> The film was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely
> successful 1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson
> and re-routed the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis
> Presley was initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but
> reportedly bailed out after he was refused top billing.
>
> The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician
> who embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is
> pencilled in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the
> likes of Mad Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna.
>
> Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His recent
> films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and State of
> Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's revisionist take on
> Robin 
> Hood
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> 




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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

[Keith Johnson]

Well, looks like that indeed generated some issues. In the Letters page of 
Fantastic Four #575, the entire page is dedicated to two very long reader 
letters. Both are extremely upset and offended with Valeria Richards' calling 
her brother "retarded" in an earlier issue. The letters are heartfelt--i 
believe one of the writers works with mentally disabled children. I see their 
points, but again, not sure I find this "wrong". Interesting is the writer's 
response, which basically says that Valeria's words are not nice, but that kids 
are often not nice, and it's his duty to be as realistic as possible in 
portrayal of his characters in this fantasy world. 

Check out this cool link, in which someone has scanned the entire letters page, 
where you can read it: http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1530066.html 

** 
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Johnson"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:55:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded" 


As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier today. 
Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the older, their son Franklin, who 
has normal intelligence, and their young daughter Valeria, who at the age of 
four is already a supergenius on the level of her father Reed. In playing 
around with Franklin about a question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, 
you're such a retard!" 

Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel comics censured? Demand 
an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get the FF canceled? 

* 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:33:52 + 
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded" 




I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a firing offense. "Retarded" has many 
meanings and connotations. When you call a person "retarded" for doing 
something stupid, it's not in any way meant to suggest that person has Downs or 
Autism or any other developmental condition. It means the person is an idiot, 
pure and simple. The words "simpleton", "geek", "cretin", and actually even, 
"idiot", could be tagged as equally offensive in this light. This is a tempest 
in a teapot, especially seeing as this took place behind closed doors. 

I'm not saying people don't have a right to be upset. Had he used the n-word 
behind closed doors, even, I'd be pissed. If some hate "retarded" on this 
level, i respect that. But I do think we need to do some serious examination of 
how much stuff said in private can and should be used to evaluate a person's 
character. No single one of us could bear the scrutiny if everything we said in 
private were publicized. If my private utterings around the house ever got out, 
I think a lot of conservative white religious fanatics would probably want to 
have me drawn and quartered! 

End of the day, I don't think he at all was thinking of people with true 
developmental problems, but now that it got out, an apology was the right thing 
to do. Past that, let this die, and let's move on. The bigger problem is a new 
Internet/Twitter/Facebook world where every single thing is instantly 
universal, without any benefit of filtering, explanation, or real analysis. 

And the biggest problem? A world in which that idiot Sarah Palin is still being 
quoted for her opinion on anything of substance. With apologies to the idiots 
of the world for that comparison 

* 

[Yahoo News ] 

Dating back to the time he worked in the Clinton administration, White House 
Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has developed an almost notorious reputation in 
Washington for being a brash personality with a penchant for profanity-laced 
diatribes. Conversely, his intense nature, in addition to his sharp mind, are 
what many attribute to his success and effectiveness as a Washington power 
player. But a recently revealed remark he made in a closed-door meeting 
attended by White House aides and leaders of liberal special-interest groups 
has irked many, prompting him to issue an apology. ... 

[scifinoir2] Knowles, Crowe to Star in "A Star is Born"

[Keith Johnson]

Worf, case in point (although i know you weren't arguing against prejudice in 
H'Wood). With all the people out there who could be cast opposite Knowles, they 
skip all the potential black men to pair her up with a white dude? I'm already 
reading some stuff hailing the "bold" move of the interracial relationship. Got 
nothing against that, but again, in a world where black-on-black love doesn't 
get much play on the big screen... 

Yes indeed, we must make our own stuff... 

** 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/09/russell-crowe-beyonce-star-is-born 



In what may strike cynics as a case of life imitating art, Russell Crowe looks 
set to take a leading role in A Star Is Born, a remake of the classic Hollywood 
melodrama about a fading, drunken superstar who finds himself eclipsed by a 
younger model. The former Gladiator star is reportedly in talks to appear 
alongside Beyoncé in the Warner Bros production. 

The original 1937 version starred Fredric March and Janet Gaynor as an aging 
Hollywood actor and the bright young ingenue he takes under his wing. The film 
was remade in 1954 with James Mason and Judy Garland. The hugely successful 
1976 version cast Barbra Streisand alongside Kris Kristoffersson and re-routed 
the story from the film industry to the music business. Elvis Presley was 
initially approached to take the Kristoffersson role but reportedly bailed out 
after he was refused top billing. 

The latest overhaul apparently casts Crowe as a down-on-his-luck musician who 
embarks on an affair with a rising young singer. Nick Cassavetes is pencilled 
in to direct, while the supporting cast will be fleshed out by the likes of Mad 
Men mainstay John Hamm and singers Alicia Keys and Rihanna. 

Crowe, now 45, won a best actor Oscar for his role in Gladiator. His recent 
films include Cinderella Man, American Gangster, Body of Lies and State of 
Play. He will next be seen as the hero in Ridley Scott's revisionist take on 
Robin Hood . 

RE: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life

[Martin Baxter]

Again, is it disturbingly wrong for me to say that I enjoyed that aspect of the 
movie?

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:08:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life


















 



  



  
  
  I enjoyed the pacing of the film. It is very mellow but they click on the 
beatings like flicking on a light switch. 


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Mr Worf, I've seen this, and I'm with you all the way. It's on my To Buy List 
(anything that starts off with a kick in the face is worthy of purchase, IMO).
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible

[Martin Baxter]

In other words, we need more Michio Kakus in the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:31:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is  
possible


















 



  



  
  
  I think the article is behind. He has a show on Discovery Science that 
was on this topic that aired a few weeks ago. He basically takes existing 
science and puts it together to make it plausible. 

What we need is a new way of looking at how to apply what we have into new 
approaches. For example, there's a local high school kid that wrote a paper on 
how to build a touch screen monitor for 1/10th the current cost. 



On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























He JUST figured this out?

I read a paper written by two physicists at CERN about three years ago, 
detailing this. Heck, it's even on the 'Net in detail...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Alternative_description

  
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RE: [scifinoir2] "Past Life" Premieres on Fox Tonight

[Martin Baxter]

Watching it myself ("Past Life", that is). I had a blurb about it several 
months back inanother forum I post in. Naught beyond what you've posted here. 
I'll save my call on it until tomorrow.
  
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[scifinoir2] "Past Life" Premieres on Fox Tonight

[Keith Johnson]

I'm recording this show while watching Michelle Obama on Larry King's show (be 
nice for change to watch *anything* dealing with the Obama's that's not a 
hatchet job or a dissertation on why he's failing Liberals and Conservatives 
alike). At any rate, I've heard nothing about it other than the premise. No 
early reviews or buzz. Anyone know anything about it? Writer David Hudgins did 
a handful of "Friday Night Lights" eps as writer, which is good, and a season 
of "Everwood", which I don't remember watching... 

 
http://www.fox.com/pastlife/about/ 

Have you ever experienced déjà vu or met someone you thought seemed familiar? 
Do you believe in karma, fate or love at first sight? Have you ever had an 
out-of-body experience? 

>From writer David Hudgins ("Friday Night Lights"), and inspired by the book 
>"The Reincarnationist" by M.J. Rose, comes PAST LIFE, a new drama series that 
>investigates the world of the unexplained through the eyes of a doctor and a 
>former detective who must work together to solve decades- old mysteries. 

After experiencing a past-life regression in her 20s, Kate became a believer in 
reincarnation. 

DR. KATE MCGINN (Kelli Giddish) is not your typical psychologist. Confident, 
outspoken and highly educated, she works at The Talmadge Center for Behavioral 
Health in New York City, a world-renowned institute dedicated to the study of 
the science of the soul. After experiencing a past-life regression in her 20s, 
Kate became a believer in reincarnation. 

Using therapy and her natural gift for reading people, Kate helps solve the 
mysteries of her troubled clients by investigating their consciousness. She 
believes there are levels of consciousness and explanations for human behavior 
that science can't begin to explain. Accustomed to skeptics, but not bothered 
by them, Kate is an unapologetic believer and a force of nature who marches to 
the beat of her own drum. 

Her partner, PRICE WHATLEY (Nicholas Bishop), is a different story. A former 
NYPD homicide detective, pragmatic and cynical, Price is a damaged soul who 
constantly battles grief and guilt over the accidental death of his wife. Price 
feels that Kate, though not certifiable, certainly operates on the fringes of 
science. It's a volatile relationship, but with Price's solid detective skills 
and Kate's penchant for out-of-the-box thinking, together they make a 
formidable, albeit somewhat dysfunctional, team. 

Price feels that Kate, though not certifiable, certainly operates on the 
fringes of science. 

An emotional thrill ride, each episode finds Price and Kate working with their 
colleagues to unravel a new mystery. DR. MALACHI TALMADGE (Richard Schiff) is 
Kate's mentor and the center's namesake, an avuncular but gruff elder statesman 
who is a legend in the field of cognitive research. DR. RISHI KARNA (Ravi 
Patel) is the rookie of the group, an energetic M.D. who loves bad TV, Cuban 
jazz and driving everyone crazy. 

Produced by Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with Warner Bros. 
Television, PAST LIFE is executive-produced by David Hudgins and Lou Pitt. 
Hudgins also serves as writer. Deran Sarafian directed the pilot. Show 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible

[Mr. Worf]

I think the article is behind. He has a show on Discovery Science that was
on this topic that aired a few weeks ago. He basically takes existing
science and puts it together to make it plausible.

What we need is a new way of looking at how to apply what we have into new
approaches. For example, there's a local high school kid that wrote a paper
on how to build a touch screen monitor for 1/10th the current cost.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> He JUST figured this out?
>
> I read a paper written by two physicists at CERN about three years ago,
> detailing this. Heck, it's even on the 'Net in detail...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Alternative_description
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life

[Mr. Worf]

I enjoyed the pacing of the film. It is very mellow but they click on the
beatings like flicking on a light switch.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, I've seen this, and I'm with you all the way. It's on my To Buy
> List (anything that starts off with a kick in the face is worthy of
> purchase, IMO).
>
> --
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[Martin Baxter]

I was watching Olbermann last night, and one of his guests recounted a story 
from a McCain '08 staffer that, anytime Ms Palin was faced with a matter that 
required any serious thought, she got that "deer in the headlights" look on her 
face.
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible

[Martin Baxter]

He JUST figured this out?

I read a paper written by two physicists at CERN about three years ago, 
detailing this. Heck, it's even on the 'Net in detail...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Alternative_description
  
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[scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[B Smith]

Her Retardgate debacle made me want to puke. Rahm Emmanuel needs to be fired 
for referring to some members of the press as "f** retards" but it's ok 
when Rush Limbaugh comments and says sometimes you need to call retards 
retards. But it's ok because he's a satirist. 

I loved Colbert's response to her. It was well deserved.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> You aren't alone there, B. You'd think that, in the wake of the numerous paux 
> fas she made during her book tour (claiming to be going from stop to stop on 
> a bus, when she was really Gulfstreaming her life away, once leaving hundreds 
> sitting in the rain because she didn't feel like showing up), these folks 
> would wise up, that no one could be that dumb.
> 
> This is why I hold out little hope for that "better tomorrow"...
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: daikaij...@...
> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:26:42 +
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> puzzles and scares me. 
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> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1
> 
> > 
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> > notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the 
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RE: [scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life

[Martin Baxter]

Mr Worf, I've seen this, and I'm with you all the way. It's on my To Buy List 
(anything that starts off with a kick in the face is worthy of purchase, IMO).
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Thanks To Hulu, Indie Film 'Strictly Sexual' Hits Big

[Martin Baxter]

Will H'Wood take notice of this epic event?

NOPE.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:12:50 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Thanks To Hulu, Indie Film 'Strictly Sexual' Hits Big


















 



  



  
  
  
Welcome to entrepreneurship on the Web. Notice that packaging is everything, as 
the film has no nudity and no explicit sexual scenes...

*

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123499181
Thanks To Hulu, Indie Film 'Strictly Sexual' Hits Big
It's hard to predict what today's merging worlds of television, the Internet 
and streaming video will eventually become. 
But there's one rule that has made an easy transition from analog to the 
digital domain: Sex sells.


'We Don't Want Boyfriends'
Strictly Sexual is a romantic comedy that never made it to the big screen — but 
it has been watched by millions on desktops and laptops.  
It's
about two working professional women who have given up on relationships
and decide to employ a couple of gigolos to fill the void. 
"OK,
you understand we don't want boyfriends, we don't want relationships,"
one woman says in the movie. "We want two guys to service us. This is
strictly sexual."

 Courtesy of Hyphenate FilmsStevie Long, who wrote and acted in Strictly 
Sexual, says the movie has made more than 10 times its operating budget despite 
never being shown in theaters.
Stevie
Long, who wrote and acted in the film, says it is not, as the title
might suggest, a porn flick. In fact, there's no nudity in his film
whatsoever.
"Really the movie is about love and intimacy," Long
says. "But if I was to title the film 'Love and Intimacy,' I'm sure
that people would think it's pretentious and never watch it."
Yet Strictly Sexual is the most-watched movie of all time on Hulu.com.   
The film has no big-name stars and never had a theatrical release.  
But Long got it into the hands of a company that distributes films on cable and 
the Internet.


'I Had No Idea What Hulu Was'
"I
woke up one morning and found a dozen or so messages in my Facebook
inbox, saying, 'Hey, I just saw this film, and it really touched me,
and I love the way it talks about breakups and relationships,' " Long
says. "And I just scratched my head, saying, 'Where'd you see my
movie?' I had no idea what Hulu was. God bless the people who had the
foresight to put it up there."
Hulu.com, for those who still don't know, is an incredibly popular 
video-streaming Web site. 
One online measurement service, ComScore, reported that more than 1 billion 
videos were watched on Hulu in December 2009 alone. 
It carries some movies and a lot of popular television shows, such as Lost, The 
Office and Family Guy.  
Long figures that people stumbled upon his film on Hulu while catching up on 
their favorite TV shows. 
"We
were hoping that, in a perfect world, that it would open on 2,000
screens — that Harvey Weinstein would put it all across America," Long
says. "We were fortunate in that the timing of the Internet and the
ability to watch movies came about at the same time. I didn't have any
ego about it as an artist, I just wanted my movie to be seen."


Film Raked In More Than 10 Times Its Production Cost
Hulu won't provide an exact view count for Strictly Sexual, but there are 
enough people watching to make Long a profit.
When asked for the hard numbers, Long is coy.
"I'll give it to you in these rough terms," he says. "The $100,000 film has 
made 10 times its money."
That's enough to fund Long's next independent film.
"It's
a tragic tale," Long says. "It's about people in the porn industry and
the denial that goes on there. We've appropriately titled it Porn Star: The 
Ugly Life of a Beautiful Girl. And I'd like to think that a lot of people are 
going to click on that title."
Whether they click on it or not, Long has already proven that the Internet is a 
place where independent filmmakers can thrive.
That is, if the title is right.





 









  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[Martin Baxter]

You aren't alone there, B. You'd think that, in the wake of the numerous paux 
fas she made during her book tour (claiming to be going from stop to stop on a 
bus, when she was really Gulfstreaming her life away, once leaving hundreds 
sitting in the rain because she didn't feel like showing up), these folks would 
wise up, that no one could be that dumb.

This is why I hold out little hope for that "better tomorrow"...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:26:42 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers


















 



  



  
  
  The dimwitted demagogue strikes again. The Palin phenomenon just puzzles 
and scares me. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:

>

> http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1

> 

> Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib 
> notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the 
> fifth college she attended.

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RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Hot Air Balloon Over Troubled Waters

[Martin Baxter]

LMNAATWO!! 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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From: Chris de Morsella
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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:24 PM

To: Tracey de Morsella; 'S. Drasnin'; 'Loyd Atwood'; 'Tony Lockard'

Subject: RE: Hot Air Balloon Over Troubled Waters





 







LOST BALLOON BLOWING IN THE WIND

 

A
woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and
spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him,



"Excuse me, can you
help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know
where I am."



The man consulted his
portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30
feet above ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31
degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west
longitude.



"She rolled her
eyes and said, "You must be an Obama Democrat."



"I am,"
replied the man. "How did you know?"



"Well,"
answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct.
But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help to me."



The man smiled and
responded, "You must be a Republican."



"I am,"
replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"



"Well," said
the man, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You've
risen to where you are due to a lot of hot air. You made a promise you
have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem. You're in
exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[Martin Baxter]

And boy, do they flock to her. In a group I peek into from time to time, one 
neocon nimrod is defending her to the wall, tossing out that tired old chestnut 
"At least she doesn't have to depend on a teleprompter, like Obama." Tell her 
that every other politician (*except* for Ms Palin) uses one, and you'll want 
to duck, even though she and her computer are in Texas.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:16:58 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers


















 



  



  
  
  The dumb sheep need a voice too. 


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, B Smith  wrote:

The dimwitted demagogue strikes again. The Palin phenomenon just puzzles and 
scares me.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:

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> http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1

>

> Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib 
> notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the 
> fifth college she attended.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[Mr. Worf]

The dumb sheep need a voice too.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, B Smith  wrote:

> The dimwitted demagogue strikes again. The Palin phenomenon just puzzles
> and scares me.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> >
> > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1
> >
> > Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib
> notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the
> fifth college she attended.
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[Kelwyn]

In the country of the blind, the one-eyed (wo)man is king.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith"  wrote:
>
> The dimwitted demagogue strikes again. The Palin phenomenon just puzzles and 
> scares me. 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> >
> > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1
> > 
> > Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib 
> > notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the 
> > fifth college she attended.
> >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

[B Smith]

The dimwitted demagogue strikes again. The Palin phenomenon just puzzles and 
scares me. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
>
> http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1
> 
> Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib 
> notes on palm to aid speech.  Same technique helped her graduate from the 
> fifth college she attended.
>