Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one gunman you know the source of the gunfire. If everyone pulls out weapons then who's the danger? These people act as if these gun owners are crack shots who can shoot a fly off the table at 30 paces while running backwards. Hell, even cops aren't really good shots, and they're trained. Also, the supporters use as examples really tragic events that, for all their carnage, are still relatively rare. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:55:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
I agree. I think that part of the thinking of the behind this is a fantasy that they will be heroes without thinking about how they could place their families and anyone else they are around in danger. Even tv shows take that time. Even with training the percentage rate of kill shots goes down considerably. A good example of this is the killing of 4 cops in Oakland by a single shooter. (although he did have an AK47) On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one gunman you know the source of the gunfire. If everyone pulls out weapons then who's the danger? These people act as if these gun owners are crack shots who can shoot a fly off the table at 30 paces while running backwards. Hell, even cops aren't really good shots, and they're trained. Also, the supporters use as examples really tragic events that, for all their carnage, are still relatively rare. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:55:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
Keith, another thing in this that throws me is what I've branded the Dirty Harry effect. Too many people out there believe that they can, in a crisis, leap right p and be the hero, killing the bad guy without blinking. I can't get it past their heads that killing is something that not everyone can do. The average person, facing that decision, can't drop the hammer. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:50:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one gunman you know the source of the gunfire. If everyone pulls out weapons then who's the danger? These people act as if these gun owners are crack shots who can shoot a fly off the table at 30 paces while running backwards. Hell, even cops aren't really good shots, and they're trained. Also, the supporters use as examples really tragic events that, for all their carnage, are still relatively rare. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:55:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
And think how many times cops in real world shootouts shoot their partners, spray the majority of their bullets ineffectually. When Amadou Diallo was tragically killed by the NYC cops, one of the cops tripped and fell down, due to his own fear, anxiety, and the fact that it was at night. One of his partners thought the guy went down because Diallo had shot him, which made him redouble his efforts to fell the hapless innocent. Study after study has shown that in times of crisis, even people with training make mistakes that can have devastating results. I do not want to trust my life to people who think this is still the Old West. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:17:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I agree. I think that part of the thinking of the behind this is a fantasy that they will be heroes without thinking about how they could place their families and anyone else they are around in danger. Even tv shows take that time. Even with training the percentage rate of kill shots goes down considerably. A good example of this is the killing of 4 cops in Oakland by a single shooter. (although he did have an AK47) On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one gunman you know the source of the gunfire. If everyone pulls out weapons then who's the danger? These people act as if these gun owners are crack shots who can shoot a fly off the table at 30 paces while running backwards. Hell, even cops aren't really good shots, and they're trained. Also, the supporters use as examples really tragic events that, for all their carnage, are still relatively rare. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:55:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
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So true. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:04:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Keith, another thing in this that throws me is what I've branded the Dirty Harry effect. Too many people out there believe that they can, in a crisis, leap right p and be the hero, killing the bad guy without blinking. I can't get it past their heads that killing is something that not everyone can do. The average person, facing that decision, can't drop the hammer. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:50:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one gunman you know the source of the gunfire. If everyone pulls out weapons then who's the danger? These people act as if these gun owners are crack shots who can shoot a fly off the table at 30 paces while running backwards. Hell, even cops aren't really good shots, and they're trained. Also, the supporters use as examples really tragic events that, for all their carnage, are still relatively rare. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:55:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Can you imagine that? You shot my wife! Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for their guns. A shoot out started and one of the guys was killed while the other one went to jail for murder. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.
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Mind if I join you? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:14:29 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MLOGENpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1
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More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Isn't it, Keith? I ride MARTA regularly when doing my errands, and I'm always on the lookout for weird folks (consequences of growing up in big cities). Now, I've gotta keep an eye toward bulges in waistbands and purses. And I don't sit down on trains anymore, for fear that I may have to go through the door in a hurry. Not fun when you've gotta ride from Kensington down to Five Points, then change for the northbound to Dunwoody. (For those not in the know, that's eighteen stations standing up.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:04:46 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Mr Worf, was that question open to the floor, or directed at Keith? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:17:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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Everything I post is open to the floor. :) On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, was that question open to the floor, or directed at Keith? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:17:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how.http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Thanks, wanted to make certain. And, in answer, I've seen a lot more shooting deaths reported on the news since it became law. At least three in my town this year, which surpasses last year's total. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:38:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Everything I post is open to the floor. :) On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, was that question open to the floor, or directed at Keith? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:17:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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That reminds me of the problems that they had in places like Tombstone, Arizona where they had to bring in a hired gun to become marshal (then sheriff). Guns can make society collaspe around you if things start to get out of control. This makes me think that this is part of a conspiracy. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Thanks, wanted to make certain. And, in answer, I've seen a lot more shooting deaths reported on the news since it became law. At least three in my town this year, which surpasses last year's total. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:38:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Everything I post is open to the floor. :) On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, was that question open to the floor, or directed at Keith? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:17:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how.http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ nowhttp://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try+bing_1x1 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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I haven't checked the statistics, but I think at best they remained the same. Supporters of this don't think of this as a deterrent, mind you. It's really more along the lines of self-defense, so that when the shooting starts at McDonald's, a psycho killer tries to cap you in a park, or a crazed ex husband bursts into a church, all the gun-toting God-fearing citizens can pull their own pieces and blow the offender away. And of course the additional lead flying by terrified and unskilled civilians in a moment of crisis will *never* find its way into the body of an innocent bystander... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:17:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? In your opinion, has gun violence gone up or down in Georgia after the law was passed? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: More foolishness, fear, and yes, racism in the era of Obama. This idiocy started before he was even elected. Nothing at all in anything he's ever said or done to justify a fear he'll take all guns from all people. I've never understood this attitude. I'm okay with people owning guns to protect themselves. But I don't understand why so many fight things such as waiting periods, background checks, registration, limits on what type of weapons citizens can own. And I'm really upset that places like Georgia (where I live) now allow people to carry weapons on buses, in churches, in parks, restaurants. That amazingly stupid and troubling. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:14:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?
I am starting to feel paranoid now... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_ammo_shortage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
