[scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-13 Thread Kelwyn
Thanks for decloaking.  I am thinking of adding Shadaneca Harbor to the map of 
the World Ebon (http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/).

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, shadaneca harbour skm...@... wrote:

 
 As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some 
 of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article 
 posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started 
 with well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay I'm Black 
 and I don't think he's racist. People date who they want but likening his 
 penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 
 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I 
 don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much 
 history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own 
 people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now...
  
 
 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@...
 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
 Sexist Comments
 
   
 
 
 
 I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass 
 because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any 
 other slacker white dude that's probably broke. 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:
 
 It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
 John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some 
 sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered 
 to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.
 
 Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with 
 Kanye I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard 
 more black folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John 
 Mayer.
 
 The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
 inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
 does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
 kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like 
 sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What 
  would make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a 
  white dude?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravenadal@
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
  Sexist Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights 
  PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months 
  a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds 
  (Miss January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A 
  magazine that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a 
  pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 
  year-old girls is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used 
  to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging money.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
  
   Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
   head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
   trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
   nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says 
   his member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly 
   Robinson and Kerry Washington?
  
   I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
   much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
  
   *
   http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
  
   John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
   his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
   concert.
  
   But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
   speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
   which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy 
   chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships 
   with Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual 
   napalm), his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual 
   attraction to black women.
  
   I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. 
   My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart 
   and a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-13 Thread shadaneca harbour

Thanks for the link...I love it!
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:28:22 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
Comments

  



Thanks for decloaking. I am thinking of adding Shadaneca Harbor to the map of 
the World Ebon (http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/).

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, shadaneca harbour skm...@... wrote:

 
 As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some 
 of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article 
 posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started 
 with well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay I'm Black 
 and I don't think he's racist. People date who they want but likening his 
 penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 
 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I 
 don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much 
 history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own 
 people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now...
 
 
 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@...
 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
 Sexist Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass 
 because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any 
 other slacker white dude that's probably broke. 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:
 
 It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
 John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some 
 sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered 
 to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.
 
 Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with 
 Kanye I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard 
 more black folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John 
 Mayer.
 
 The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
 inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
 does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
 kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like 
 sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What 
  would make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a 
  white dude?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravenadal@
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
  Sexist Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights 
  PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months 
  a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds 
  (Miss January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A 
  magazine that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a 
  pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 
  year-old girls is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used 
  to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging money.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
  
   Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
   head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
   trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
   nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says 
   his member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly 
   Robinson and Kerry Washington?
  
   I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
   much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
  
   *
   http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
  
   John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
   his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
   concert.
  
   But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
   speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
   which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy 
   chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships 
   with Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual 
   napalm), his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual 
   attraction

[scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread B Smith
It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort 
of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be 
sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.

Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye 
I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard more black 
folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John Mayer.

The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual 
naplam and a crack addiction...lol.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
 make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white 
 dude? 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
 Comments 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
 magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
 issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
 Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once 
 fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque 
 Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
 titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now 
 hemorrhaging money. 
 
 ~(no)rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his 
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson 
  and Kerry Washington? 
  
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. 
  
  * 
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml 
  
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
  concert. 
  
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
  which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy 
  chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with 
  Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), 
  his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to 
  black women. 
  
  I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. My 
  d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a 
  f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my 
  d---. 
  
  Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet 
  Mayer also spoke about why black people love me. 
  
  Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 
  'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a 
  contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could 
  call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood 
  pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 
  'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and 
  been told, 'We're full.'  
  
  Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. 
  When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about 
  the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. 
  
  It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the 
  paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the 
  choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to 
  stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs 
  aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack 
  cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like 
  napalm, sexual napalm. 
  
  During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez 
  Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. I remember seeing Perez

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread Mr. Worf
I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass
because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any
other slacker white dude that's probably broke.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess
 because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there
 was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was
 considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.

 Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with
 Kanye I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard
 more black folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John
 Mayer.

 The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self
 inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF
 does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke 
 kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like
 sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol.

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
  yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What
 would make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a
 white dude?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist,
 Sexist Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights
 PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a
 year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss
 January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine
 that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt
 Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more
 creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is
 now hemorrhaging money.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
 wrote:
  
   Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his
 head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's
 trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term
 nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his
 member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson
 and Kerry Washington?
  
   I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn
 much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
  
   *
   http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
  
   John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely
 tweeting his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle
 of a concert.
  
   But his latest foray into the familiar territory of
 speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which
 has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the
 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer
 Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy
 kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women.
  
   I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women.
 My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and
 a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my
 d---.
  
   Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism.
 Yet Mayer also spoke about why black people love me.
  
   Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a
 'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a
 contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could
 call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood
 pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a
 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been
 told, 'We're full.' 
  
   Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances.
 When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about
 the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence.
  
   It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the
 paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the
 choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to
 stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs
 aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack
 cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread shadaneca harbour

As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some 
of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article 
posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with 
well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay I'm Black and I 
don't think he's racist. People date who they want but likening his penis to a 
'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' 
goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have 
time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of 
us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. 
Off my soapbox now...
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments

  



I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because 
no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other 
slacker white dude that's probably broke. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort 
of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be 
sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.

Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye 
I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard more black 
folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John Mayer.

The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual 
naplam and a crack addiction...lol.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
 make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white 
 dude?

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
 Comments






 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
 magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
 issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
 Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once 
 fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque 
 Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
 titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now 
 hemorrhaging money.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his 
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson 
  and Kerry Washington?
 
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
 
  *
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
 
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
  concert.
 
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
  which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy 
  chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with 
  Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), 
  his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to 
  black women.
 
  I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. My 
  d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a 
  f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my d---.
 
  Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet 
  Mayer also spoke about why black people love me.
 
  Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 
  'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread Mr. Worf
Good point. I think that African Americans have become apathetic when it
comes to racial issues and racist remarks. Let's face it there are so many
assholes like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin that it makes comments like John
Mayer's almost seem tame.

On a side note, please don't interpret what I wrote as being apologetic for
John Mayer or any other white person because that would be wrong.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:52 AM, shadaneca harbour skm...@msn.com wrote:



 As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that
 some of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the
 article posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that
 started with well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay
 I'm Black and I don't think he's racist. People date who they want but
 likening his penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n*
 pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have
 forgotten about. I don't even have time to go over what he said about
 Washington, too much history there. None of us need to defend him...he
 has enough of his own people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now...

 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist,
 Sexist Comments


  I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass
 because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any
 other slacker white dude that's probably broke.

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess
 because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there
 was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was
 considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.

 Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with
 Kanye I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard
 more black folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John
 Mayer.

 The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self
 inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF
 does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke 
 kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like
 sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol.

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
  yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What
 would make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a
 white dude?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist,
 Sexist Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights
 PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a
 year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss
 January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine
 that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt
 Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more
 creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is
 now hemorrhaging money.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
 wrote:
  
   Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his
 head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's
 trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term
 nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his
 member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson
 and Kerry Washington?
  
   I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn
 much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
  
   *
   http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
  
   John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely
 tweeting his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle
 of a concert.
  
   But his latest foray into the familiar territory of
 speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which
 has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the
 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer
 Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy
 kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women.
  
   I

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread shadaneca harbour

Oh not at all. This was strictly a response to comments I read when the article 
was posted on Yahoo.
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:23:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments

  



Good point. I think that African Americans have become apathetic when it comes 
to racial issues and racist remarks. Let's face it there are so many assholes 
like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin that it makes comments like John Mayer's 
almost seem tame. 

On a side note, please don't interpret what I wrote as being apologetic for 
John Mayer or any other white person because that would be wrong. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:52 AM, shadaneca harbour skm...@msn.com wrote:




As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some 
of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article 
posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with 
well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay I'm Black and I 
don't think he's racist. People date who they want but likening his penis to a 
'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' 
goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have 
time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of 
us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. 
Off my soapbox now...
 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments

  





I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because 
no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other 
slacker white dude that's probably broke. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort 
of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be 
sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me.

Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye 
I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard more black 
folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John Mayer.

The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual 
naplam and a crack addiction...lol.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
 make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white 
 dude?

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
 Comments






 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
 magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
 issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
 Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once 
 fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque 
 Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
 titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now 
 hemorrhaging money.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his 
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson 
  and Kerry Washington?
 
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
 
  *
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
 
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
  concert.
 
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
  which has already unleashed a strong

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread Keith Johnson
Oh man, that's funny! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:21:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments 






I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because 
no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other 
slacker white dude that's probably broke. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith  daikaij...@yahoo.com  wrote: 


It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort 
of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be 
sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. 

Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye 
I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard more black 
folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John Mayer. 

The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual 
naplam and a crack addiction...lol. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
 make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white 
 dude? 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
 Comments 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
 magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
 issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
 Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once 
 fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque 
 Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
 titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now 
 hemorrhaging money. 
 
 ~(no)rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his 
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson 
  and Kerry Washington? 
  
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. 
  
  * 
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml 
  
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
  concert. 
  
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, 
  which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy 
  chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with 
  Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), 
  his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to 
  black women. 
  
  I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. My 
  d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a 
  f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my 
  d---. 
  
  Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet 
  Mayer also spoke about why black people love me. 
  
  Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 
  'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a 
  contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could 
  call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood 
  pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 
  'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and 
  been told, 'We're full.'  
  
  Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. 
  When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about 
  the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. 
  
  It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-12 Thread Keith Johnson
Amen. We just had a long discussion about racism and stuff in Hollywood, and I 
expressed frustration at how people are so hesitant to call stuff like it is. I 
heard a political pundit recently note that people are very hesitant to call 
the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, etc., racist. Rather, they try very hard to 
call them insensitive, inartful, clueless, frank, controversial. It 
makes me ill when people get such a pass. Racist is as racist does, and I can't 
see how Mayer's comments can be called anything but. 


- Original Message - 
From: shadaneca harbour skm...@msn.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:52:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments 






As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some 
of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article 
posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with 
well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended, and it's okay I'm Black and I 
don't think he's racist. People date who they want but likening his penis to a 
'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' 
goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have 
time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of 
us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. 
Off my soapbox now... 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, 
Sexist Comments 




I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because 
no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other 
slacker white dude that's probably broke. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith  daikaij...@yahoo.com  wrote: 


It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because 
John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort 
of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be 
sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. 

Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye 
I never heard about their hood pass. The funny thing is I've heard more black 
folks comment about Maroon 5's rb influenced sound than John Mayer. 

The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self 
inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF 
does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke  
kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual 
naplam and a crack addiction...lol. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
 make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white 
 dude? 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
 Comments 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
 magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
 issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
 Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once 
 fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque 
 Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
 titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now 
 hemorrhaging money. 
 
 ~(no)rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his 
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's 
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term 
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his 
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson 
  and Kerry Washington? 
  
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn 
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. 
  
  * 
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml 
  
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting 
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a 
  concert. 
  
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview

[scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-11 Thread Kelwyn
What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
magazine is in.  The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle.  A magazine that was once 
fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet.  Crypt Keeper-esque 
Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging 
money.

~(no)rave!  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his head? 
 Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's trying to 
 backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term nig**a pass 
 is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his member is racist 
 then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson and Kerry 
 Washington? 
 
 I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn much. 
 Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. 
 
 * 
 http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml 
 
 John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting his 
 innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a concert. 
 
 But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
 speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which 
 has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the 
 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer 
 Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy 
 kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women. 
 
 I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. My 
 d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a 
 f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my d---. 
 
 Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet 
 Mayer also spoke about why black people love me. 
 
 Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 'hood 
 pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in 
 terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could call it a n---a 
 pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood pass if you really 
 have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 'hood pass.' I've never 
 walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'  
 
 Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. When 
 it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about the 
 intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. 
 
 It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the 
 paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the 
 choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to 
 stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs 
 aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack 
 cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like 
 napalm, sexual napalm. 
 
 During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez 
 Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. I remember seeing Perez Hilton 
 flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented 
 homosexuality, he said. All of a sudden I thought, I can out-gay this guy 
 right now. I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have 
 ever put on anybody †almost as if I hated f--s. 
 
 Perez has already hit back against Mayer, but so far the usually 
 Twitter-happy singer has not addressed any element of the Playboy interview.





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf
They need to reinvent themselves. Playboy changed over the years from being
cool and hip like Hugh but now it is dated and showing its age. From what I
hear Heffner's daughter runs most of the business now. I considered
investing in them a couple of years back, but after studying them for a
while I decided not to. Their stock has been pretty much stagnant.

I think the younger magazines like Perfect 10, and FHM has given them a run
for their money without doing nudes. (perfect 10 does, FHM doesnt) The key
is the writers and the topics. I think that is what is missing.

Back in the day, Playboy had things like cars, how to fix cool cocktails,
and how to tie a winsor knot tie etc. They just don't have their fingers on
the pulse of the american male anymore.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights
 PLAYBOY magazine is in.  The magazine, which used to come out twelve months
 a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss
 January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle.  A magazine
 that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet.
  Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls
 is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash
 cow, is now hemorrhaging money.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
  Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his
 head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's
 trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term
 nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his
 member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson
 and Kerry Washington?
 
  I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn
 much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
 
  *
  http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
 
  John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting
 his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a
 concert.
 
  But his latest foray into the familiar territory of
 speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which
 has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the
 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer
 Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy
 kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women.
 
  I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women.
 My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and
 a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my
 d---.
 
  Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet
 Mayer also spoke about why black people love me.
 
  Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a
 'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a
 contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could
 call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood
 pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a
 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been
 told, 'We're full.' 
 
  Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances.
 When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about
 the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence.
 
  It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the
 paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the
 choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to
 stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs
 aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack
 cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like
 napalm, sexual napalm.
 
  During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez
 Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. I remember seeing Perez Hilton
 flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented
 homosexuality, he said. All of a sudden I thought, I can out-gay this guy
 right now. I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have
 ever put on anybody †almost as if I hated f--s.
 
  Perez has already hit back against Mayer, but so far the usually
 Twitter-happy singer has not addressed any element of the Playboy interview.
 




 

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[scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-11 Thread Kelwyn
What is interesting is that Hefner stole the original iconic format for 
Playboy magazine from his previous employer, Esquire Magazine, and  put a 
centerfold in the middle of it.  Playboy is currently a horrible mishmash of 
classic Playboy and Maxim.  Esquire, after many reformats - some successful and 
some not, is now a very vibrant magazine, young and jazzy and full of attitude 
and ad pages.  If I were running Playboy Magazine, I would steal Esquire's 
current format and stick a centerfold in the middle.

By the by, Christie Hefner, 57, stepped down as CEO in January 2009.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 They need to reinvent themselves. Playboy changed over the years from being
 cool and hip like Hugh but now it is dated and showing its age. From what I
 hear Heffner's daughter runs most of the business now. I considered
 investing in them a couple of years back, but after studying them for a
 while I decided not to. Their stock has been pretty much stagnant.
 
 I think the younger magazines like Perfect 10, and FHM has given them a run
 for their money without doing nudes. (perfect 10 does, FHM doesnt) The key
 is the writers and the topics. I think that is what is missing.
 
 Back in the day, Playboy had things like cars, how to fix cool cocktails,
 and how to tie a winsor knot tie etc. They just don't have their fingers on
 the pulse of the american male anymore.
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
  What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights
  PLAYBOY magazine is in.  The magazine, which used to come out twelve months
  a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss
  January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle.  A magazine
  that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet.
   Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls
  is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash
  cow, is now hemorrhaging money.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
  wrote:
  
   Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his
  head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's
  trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term
  nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his
  member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson
  and Kerry Washington?
  
   I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn
  much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
  
   *
   http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
  
   John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting
  his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a
  concert.
  
   But his latest foray into the familiar territory of
  speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which
  has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the
  32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer
  Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy
  kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women.
  
   I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women.
  My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and
  a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my
  d---.
  
   Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet
  Mayer also spoke about why black people love me.
  
   Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a
  'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a
  contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could
  call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood
  pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a
  'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been
  told, 'We're full.' 
  
   Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances.
  When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about
  the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence.
  
   It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the
  paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the
  choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to
  stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs
  aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack
  cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like
  napalm, sexual napalm.
  
   During the interview, Mayer also spoke 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf
I forgot about Maxim. I think that they need a youngish guy at the helm that
is similar to Hef.

Part of me also feels that the magazine format is dying. There needs to be
more to the appeal of the magazine than the women and the few huge articles
that they run.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What is interesting is that Hefner stole the original iconic format for
 Playboy magazine from his previous employer, Esquire Magazine, and  put a
 centerfold in the middle of it.  Playboy is currently a horrible mishmash of
 classic Playboy and Maxim.  Esquire, after many reformats - some successful
 and some not, is now a very vibrant magazine, young and jazzy and full of
 attitude and ad pages.  If I were running Playboy Magazine, I would steal
 Esquire's current format and stick a centerfold in the middle.

 By the by, Christie Hefner, 57, stepped down as CEO in January 2009.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  They need to reinvent themselves. Playboy changed over the years from
 being
  cool and hip like Hugh but now it is dated and showing its age. From what
 I
  hear Heffner's daughter runs most of the business now. I considered
  investing in them a couple of years back, but after studying them for a
  while I decided not to. Their stock has been pretty much stagnant.
 
  I think the younger magazines like Perfect 10, and FHM has given them a
 run
  for their money without doing nudes. (perfect 10 does, FHM doesnt) The
 key
  is the writers and the topics. I think that is what is missing.
 
  Back in the day, Playboy had things like cars, how to fix cool cocktails,
  and how to tie a winsor knot tie etc. They just don't have their fingers
 on
  the pulse of the american male anymore.
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
   What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights
   PLAYBOY magazine is in.  The magazine, which used to come out twelve
 months
   a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds
 (Miss
   January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle.  A
 magazine
   that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet.
Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old
 girls
   is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a
 cash
   cow, is now hemorrhaging money.
  
   ~(no)rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
   wrote:
   
Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for
 his
   head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's
   trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the
 term
   nig**a pass is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says
 his
   member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly
 Robinson
   and Kerry Washington?
   
I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too
 damn
   much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre.
   
*
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml
   
John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely
 tweeting
   his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of
 a
   concert.
   
But his latest foray into the familiar territory of
   speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview,
 which
   has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy
 chat, the
   32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with
 Jennifer
   Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his
 sloppy
   kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black
 women.
   
I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black
 women.
   My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart
 and
   a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my
   d---.
   
Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism.
 Yet
   Mayer also spoke about why black people love me.
   
Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have
 a
   'hood pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a
   contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you
 could
   call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a
 'hood
   pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have
 a
   'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and
 been
   told, 'We're full.' 
   
Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile
 romances.
   When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much
 about
   the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence.
   
It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the
   

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments

2010-02-11 Thread Keith Johnson
yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would 
make one ask a question such as Hood pass in the first place of a white dude? 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist 
Comments 






What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY 
magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now 
issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and 
Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once fat 
with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh 
Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than 
titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging 
money. 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Wow, if retarded was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his head? 
 Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's trying to 
 backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term nig**a pass 
 is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his member is racist 
 then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson and Kerry 
 Washington? 
 
 I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn much. 
 Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. 
 
 * 
 http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml 
 
 John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting his 
 innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a concert. 
 
 But his latest foray into the familiar territory of 
 speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which 
 has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the 
 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer 
 Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter sexual napalm), his sloppy 
 kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women. 
 
 I don't think I open myself to it, Mayer said of dating black women. My 
 d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a 
 f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my d---. 
 
 Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet 
 Mayer also spoke about why black people love me. 
 
 Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 'hood 
 pass?'  he told Playboy. And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in 
 terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could call it a n---a 
 pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood pass if you really 
 have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 'hood pass.' I've never 
 walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'  
 
 Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. When 
 it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about the 
 intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. 
 
 It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the 
 paparazzi into my life,'  he explained. I really said, 'I now make the 
 choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to 
 stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs 
 aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack 
 cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like 
 napalm, sexual napalm. 
 
 During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez 
 Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. I remember seeing Perez Hilton 
 flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented 
 homosexuality, he said. All of a sudden I thought, I can out-gay this guy 
 right now. I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have 
 ever put on anybody †almost as if I hated f--s. 
 
 Perez has already hit back against Mayer, but so far the usually 
 Twitter-happy singer has not addressed any element of the Playboy interview.