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Hey Bosco: I don’t read everything because sometimes there are not enough hours in the day, I pay a great deal of attention to your “ramblings” From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:11 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed i read everything you write, just missed it somehow - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:58:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Actually I've mentioned it here on the list more than a couple of times. You probably didn't see it. I mean, how many people actually pay attention to my ramblings anyway. As for offense, I'm rarely offended by anything. Certainly next to nothing here on this list and specifically nothing from you. I've always felt like this was the nicest email list on the web and I've been always been pleased and proud to be here. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:49 PM No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2
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They have as high as 100 spf these days, for which I'm really glad. I can burn with 30, 45 is barest min. When in the topics I use min 60. My dad has a similar complexion and avoids the sun, lol. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Wow, are you really fair-skinned (your pic would indicate so), or do you have a bit of the vampyr in you? :) SPF 70?? Do they make it that high? As for sunburning and sun worshipping, I've always found that to be a curious thing. Almost no black person I've ever known has enjoyed standing or laying out in full sunlight. Of course, one could say that many of us don't need a tan. But even those lighter-skinned blacks I've known who can tan don't like it. I for example, love heat--I grew up in Texas, after all--but I'm not into exposing my skin directly to the summer sun's rays on purpose. Damn, it hurts! When I was younger, I had a near arrogant attitude about that. I used to scoff at white folks who'd intentionally court sunburn, heatstroke, and possibly even skin cancer just to get a tan. I used to say, Yeah, black folks can take a whole lot of sun without burning ,and even we don't do anything that crazy. One summer some friends of mine and I spent the weekend down on the coast of Texas. My friends--who were all Mexican--kept applying liberal doses of suntan lotion. When they offered me some I'd say I'm black--i don't need that! Black people don't sunburn! So I made fun of my Mexican friends, wimping out by using suntan lotion, and all the white people intentionally lying out in the sun, desperately trying to protect their skin from their activities. Me? I cavorted about for three days, jumping in the ocean, jogging for miles at noon, secure in my skin's native protection. Three days later I'm taking a shower and notice my skin peeling off in certain areas. Thinking it was simply dry skin, or maybe the results of hard water, I ignored it. The next day the peeling progressed. I made a casual comment to my roommates, who all burst into laughter. Dude, you got a sunburn! one of them said. That's impossible! I protested I *can't* sunburn. I then called my mom, who'd spent many a day as a youth picking cotton and berries in the Texas sun. She let me know in no uncertain terms that yes, black people can sunburn too, though it usually takes way more sunlight for it to happen. Lesson learned. I still don't like lying out in the sun though... - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:44:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Nah, he's probably just like me--burns to a crisp if he looks at a ray of sun. That's pretty painful! XD Naturally I'm a sun-and-heat lover, so I just wear 70 SPF and pray a lot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On *Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn
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Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy
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Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse . According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com : “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs
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I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off
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Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2
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BUT OF THE Major networks they seem too be the only ones willing to at least try something out of the box. me I' gotta give props to fx and marginally to tnt for pulling some of the stops out. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On *Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com* wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com * wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axedhttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/ This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: *Dollhouse*. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodeshttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. comhttp://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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I would say that tnt seems to have picked up where all of the big networks left off. They have a long string of shows that seem almost next generation in comparison to what is on the air. The Closer, Shield, Saving Grace etc. all are edgier than what comes on regular tv. (not to mention the nudity and swearing.) They have managed to master the complicated crime drama and give it a home. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.comwrote: BUT OF THE Major networks they seem too be the only ones willing to at least try something out of the box. me I' gotta give props to fx and marginally to tnt for pulling some of the stops out. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On *Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com* wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com * wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axedhttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/ This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: *Dollhouse*. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodeshttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. comhttp://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place
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Nah, he's probably just like me--burns to a crisp if he looks at a ray of sun. That's pretty painful! XD Naturally I'm a sun-and-heat lover, so I just wear 70 SPF and pray a lot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On *Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On *Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On *Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl
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Wow, are you really fair-skinned (your pic would indicate so), or do you have a bit of the vampyr in you? :) SPF 70?? Do they make it that high? As for sunburning and sun worshipping, I've always found that to be a curious thing. Almost no black person I've ever known has enjoyed standing or laying out in full sunlight. Of course, one could say that many of us don't need a tan. But even those lighter-skinned blacks I've known who can tan don't like it. I for example, love heat--I grew up in Texas, after all--but I'm not into exposing my skin directly to the summer sun's rays on purpose. Damn, it hurts! When I was younger, I had a near arrogant attitude about that. I used to scoff at white folks who'd intentionally court sunburn, heatstroke, and possibly even skin cancer just to get a tan. I used to say, Yeah, black folks can take a whole lot of sun without burning ,and even we don't do anything that crazy. One summer some friends of mine and I spent the weekend down on the coast of Texas. My friends--who were all Mexican--kept applying liberal doses of suntan lotion. When they offered me some I'd say I'm black--i don't need that! Black people don't sunburn! So I made fun of my Mexican friends, wimping out by using suntan lotion, and all the white people intentionally lying out in the sun, desperately trying to protect their skin from their activities. Me? I cavorted about for three days, jumping in the ocean, jogging for miles at noon, secure in my skin's native protection. Three days later I'm taking a shower and notice my skin peeling off in certain areas. Thinking it was simply dry skin, or maybe the results of hard water, I ignored it. The next day the peeling progressed. I made a casual comment to my roommates, who all burst into laughter. Dude, you got a sunburn! one of them said. That's impossible! I protested I *can't* sunburn. I then called my mom, who'd spent many a day as a youth picking cotton and berries in the Texas sun. She let me know in no uncertain terms that yes, black people can sunburn too, though it usually takes way more sunlight for it to happen. Lesson learned. I still don't like lying out in the sun though... - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:44:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Nah, he's probably just like me--burns to a crisp if he looks at a ray of sun. That's pretty painful! XD Naturally I'm a sun-and-heat lover, so I just wear 70 SPF and pray a lot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed
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Actually I've mentioned it here on the list more than a couple of times. You probably didn't see it. I mean, how many people actually pay attention to my ramblings anyway. As for offense, I'm rarely offended by anything. Certainly next to nothing here on this list and specifically nothing from you. I've always felt like this was the nicest email list on the web and I've been always been pleased and proud to be here. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:49 PM No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South
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I prefer the moon. I wear long sleeves in the Texas Summer. I dont dislike the outdoors but I am not a fan of the yellow soul killing cancer ball. B --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 9:44 PM Nah, he's probably just like me--burns to a crisp if he looks at a ray of sun. That's pretty painful! XD Naturally I'm a sun-and-heat lover, so I just wear 70 SPF and pray a lot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ dawnoftheseraphs .html On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM
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Allright, props for an adventurous sense of programming and jeers for an alarming penchant for killing shows in utter stupidity. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 3:12 PM BUT OF THE Major networks they seem too be the only ones willing to at least try something out of the box. me I' gotta give props to fx and marginally to tnt for pulling some of the stops out. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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i read everything you write, just missed it somehow - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:58:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Actually I've mentioned it here on the list more than a couple of times. You probably didn't see it. I mean, how many people actually pay attention to my ramblings anyway. As for offense, I'm rarely offended by anything. Certainly next to nothing here on this list and specifically nothing from you. I've always felt like this was the nicest email list on the web and I've been always been pleased and proud to be here. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:49 PM No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries i'm white or I'm black necessarily. And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the Black box? Anyway, painfully caucasian? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as painfully caucasian. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you melanin-challenged ? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a Colored man! - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but Tennessee White Trash?? Wanna expound on that? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can
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and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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i totally agree with you Bosco! --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 3:21 PM and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com* wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axedhttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/ This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: *Dollhouse*. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodeshttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. comhttp://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
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I just read syfy channel will not pick it up on twitter. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On *Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com* wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com * wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. comhttp://mc/compose?to=tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axedhttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/ This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: *Dollhouse*. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodeshttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. comhttp://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas. Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico is often the smart retort. That's right, I drawl, I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner--I'm a Texan. And that says it all... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com wrote: From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo. com wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse . According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com : “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed
Wow... I had the feeling that they were going to axe it. Fox always kills shows when they are starting to pick up a loyal audience. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: This just in: 'Dollhouse' axedhttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/11/this-just-in-dollhouse-axed/ This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: *Dollhouse*. According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodeshttp://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-fox-to-bench-dollhouse-for-sweeps/beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. *Dollhouse* has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: *Dollhouse* is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. *UPDATE: *Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque.comhttp://whedonesque.com/comments/22328#349440: “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@greeneconomypost.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
