[scots-l] Is this site working?

2003-01-23 Thread Rita Hamilton
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html

I haven't been able to get in lately.
-- 
May neither your strings nor your spirit ever break,
May your harp and your soul always be in tune.
Rita
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[scots-l] Jean's reel?

2003-01-23 Thread Dominique Renaudin
Hi,

Some questions about this tune :

Who is Jean? :-)

Who is Bobby McLoud? Did he compose anything else?

What's the original version, between these two?


X: 1
T: Jean's reel
C:Bobby McLoud
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
D2|G2 GA BGBd|gB (3BBB eBdB|AGAB AGE2|AcBA GFED|
G2 GA BGBd|gabg ageg|d2 Bd gedB|AGFA G2|| Bd|
gBdg BdgB|dgBd gBdg|fdda fdad|gfga bdga|
bgaf gfed|efgf edBd|e2 dB gedB|AGFA G2||
GA|BDDB DDBD|GBDG BDGB|FDDA FDAD|dD^cd =cAFA|
BDDB DDBD|GBDG BDGB|FDFA dD^cd|cAFA G2||
Bd|gBdg BdgB|dgBd gBdg|fdda fdad|
gfga bdga|bgaf gfed|efgf edBd|e2 dB gedB|AGFA G2||

X:2
T:Jean's Reel
M:4/4
L:1/8
C:Bobby MacLeod
R:Reel
K:G
(3DEF|:G3A BGBd|gB (3BBB eBdB|A3B AGEG|AcBA GEDE|!
G2 GA BGBd|gabg abge|d2 Bd gedB|1AGFA G2 EF:|2AGFA G2 Bd||!
gBdg BBgB|dgBd gBdg|fdda fdaf|gfga baga|!
(3bag gf gfe^d|efgf edBd|d2 Bd gedB|1AGFA G2 Bd:|2AGFA G3A||!
BD (3DDD EDB,D|(3DDD B2 (3DDD B2|A2 (3DDD ADFA|dD^cD =cAFA|!
BDGB (3DDD B2|GBDG BDGB|ADFA dD^cD|cAFA G3A|!
BD (3DDD EDB,D|(3DDD B2 (3DDD B2|A2 (3DDD A,2 (3DDD|d2 (3DDD c2 (3DDD|!
BDGB (3DDD B2|GBDG BDGB|ADFA dD^cD|cAFA G2 Bd||!
gBdg BBgB|dgBd gBdg|fdda fdaf|gfga baga|!
(3bag gf gfe^d|efgf edBd|d2 Bd gedB|AGFA G2 Bd|!
gBdg _Bdg=B|dg_Bd g=Bdg|fdda fdaf|gfga baga|!
(3bag gf gfe^d|efgf edBd|d2 Bd gedB|AGFA G2||!

Thanks in advance

Dominique R

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Re: [scots-l] Jean's reel?

2003-01-23 Thread Dominique Renaudin
Hi again,

Mc LEOD of course!

:-)

Dominique R

Dominique Renaudin a écrit:


Who is Bobby McLoud? 

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Re: [scots-l] Is this site working?

2003-01-23 Thread John Chambers
| http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html
|
| I haven't been able to get in lately.

There were some hardware problems on the machine, and it was  up  and
down for most of yesterday. A disk was swapped, and it might be fixed
now.  Then again, it might not.  We'll see.

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Re: [scots-l] Jean's reel?

2003-01-23 Thread John Erdman

Domnique -

 Fraid I don't know the answers to your questions. But That's one cool tune.
It even sounds pretty good in Barfly and that's rare. It must be awesome
when played by a fiddler or on a button accordion.  Do you know of
recordings of this tune?

Thanks,
John

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Re: [scots-l] Jean's reel?

2003-01-23 Thread Derek Hoy
 Hi,
 
 Some questions about this tune :
 
 Who is Jean? :-)
 
 Who is Bobby McLoud? Did he compose anything else?

Go to http://www.bobbymacleod.co.uk and read all about him.

He's one of the greats of trad Scottish music, and Jean's Reel is one of his 
best known tunes.  It's much-recorded so a quick google should give you a 
starter.

 What's the original version, between these two?

The first, though I have the tune in F.

Derek
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Re: [scots-l] Is this site working?

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Wyrick
Rita Hamilton wrote:

 http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html
 
 I haven't been able to get in lately.

Worked for me just now, using Mac IE 5.1 -Steve
-- 
Steve Wyrick --  Concord, California

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Re: [scots-l] Jean's reel?

2003-01-23 Thread Toby Rider
Natalie MacMaster recorded it on Fit As A Fiddle. Bobby MacLeod was a
famous Scottish accordion player from Tobermory, which is on Mull.

Toby



 Domnique -

  Fraid I don't know the answers to your questions. But That's one cool
 tune.
 It even sounds pretty good in Barfly and that's rare. It must be awesome
 when played by a fiddler or on a button accordion.  Do you know of
 recordings of this tune?

 Thanks,
 John

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Or his deserts are small,
That puts it not unto the touch
To win or lose it all.

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Re: [scots-l] Tempos

2003-01-23 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers




Toby Rider wrote:

  
they don't  feel comfortable asking their peers, and don't have anyone
to go to for  lessons. I am talking about the boondocks here, not San
Francisco or D.C.  or Seattle or Boston.

  
  

 Okay, thanks for explaining your positions on this stuff. It's good that
we've come to some understanding about this topic. We do actually agree
on alot of this stuff. I'm not as anti-competition as I was before this
discussion started, and hopefully you understand where I am coming from
  


Boondocks! Here I am! Here I am!

I am thankfull for competitions. I don't compete, and I don't even watch
the competitions, but if it weren't for the workshop that always precedes
the competition, I would have essentially no exposure to real Scottish fiddlers
 (and American players in the Scottish style).

Except for you guys, of course. But there's only so much you can "get" about
the fiddle through a computer monitor.

Bob
At the convergence of North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.





Re: [scots-l] Tempos

2003-01-23 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
Toby Rider wrote:


One of my buddies who runs a recording studio in Venice (who knows
nothing about Scottish music) when he first met me said So you play
Scottish music? Like Ashley MacIsaac and Wolfstone? Wow, those guys
really rock.. That's really cool!  Another traditional artist who has
 

Two others to add to that list: Neil Anderson, and Bad Haggis. I've 
heard about Ashley MacIsaac, and I want to check out his stuff.

For anyone who hasn't heard of Neil and BH -- they both do a combination 
of modern and traditional. Neil is a piper, and one of the best 
musicians I've ever seen. BH? Heavy metal attitude with more music 
theory and the tightest electric band I've ever heard. They play with 
the precision of Acadamy of St. Martin in the Fields.

Bob
South Carolina


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Re: [scots-l] acoustics question

2003-01-23 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
Toby Rider wrote:


I been thinking about soundposts and fiddles...
 

How come it keeps an archtop from feeding back then? It
prevents the top from vibrating on its own - with a
soundpost, ya gotta move the top and the back to get
it going...  Well, that's a bit weak, but the best I
could do.


Toby

 


Here is how a fiddle works: The top only vibrates at high frequencies. 
The back only at low. They do not work as a unit, ever. The purpose of 
the soundpost is to transfer the low frequencies from the bridge to the 
back. That's why the soundpost is opposite the low strings -- The bridge 
works like a lever. Since the strings are further from the post, more 
energy is transferred.

As to the guitar -- I don't know guitar acoustics, but what he said 
makes sense. Durring feedback, the top of the guitar is probably 
vibrating freely, and a dowel trying to tie it to the back would stiffen 
it. Two might be even better.  On a violin, part of the purpose of the f 
holes is to make a portion of the top move more freely (more top end).

If he is only playing it because of it's looks (i.e. he never uses it 
acoustically). He could stuff it with bits of foam or something. I would 
even say you could fill it with expanding foam, but I won't say that 
(because you could probably rip the instrument apart, if you weren't 
familiar with the foam!)

Bob

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Re: [scots-l] acoustics question

2003-01-23 Thread Toby Rider

 If he is only playing it because of it's looks (i.e. he never uses it
 acoustically). He could stuff it with bits of foam or something. I would
  even say you could fill it with expanding foam, but I won't say that
 (because you could probably rip the instrument apart, if you weren't
 familiar with the foam!)


 Actually those semi-hollowbodies have a tone that is a bit different and
richer then the solid-bodies, which why people still play them,
especially those jazz guys, who are all about tone quality. I think it
might have something to do with how the hollow soundbox allows the notes
to sustain nicely.
 You've give me some important clues. What I should really do is ask one
of the professors here in the department about this question.

Toby



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Re: [scots-l] Tempos

2003-01-23 Thread Toby Rider
 BH? Heavy metal attitude with more music
 theory and the tightest electric band I've ever heard. They play with
 the precision of Acadamy of St. Martin in the Fields.



 Oh yes, I've heard Bad Haggis.. They're pretty interesting :-) I think
your description fits them to a tee. They're kind of like a cross between
a pipe band, Sly and the Family Stone, African tribal rhythms and Spinal
Tap.
 Eric Rigler is their piper. He needs no introductions.



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He either fears his fate too much,
Or his deserts are small,
That puts it not unto the touch
To win or lose it all.

- James Graham, Marquis of Montrose


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Re: [scots-l] acoustics question

2003-01-23 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
Toby Rider wrote:


Actually those semi-hollowbodies have a tone that is a bit different and
richer then the solid-bodies, which why people still play them,
especially those jazz guys, who are all about tone quality. I think it
might have something to do with how the hollow soundbox allows the notes
to sustain nicely.
You've give me some important clues. What I should really do is ask one
of the professors here in the department about this question.

Toby

 


They do have a rich tone, but I don't think it is sustain. One of  the 
attractions of solid bodies is thier sustain. They don't have big moving 
acoustic plates designed to convert the string energy into sound energy. 
The telecaster I used to have would easily sustain an open string note 
for a minute.

Filling one with expanding foam would probably change the tone a lot, 
since it would eliminate a lot of the resonance. You wouldn't have the 
advantages of the solid body either, since you wouldn't have the mass in 
the body... Probably a bad idea all around. But styrofoam beads might be 
worth experimenting with. So would taping over the f holes with easy 
release masking tape, if one didn't object to the appearance...

Good luck.

Bob



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Re: [scots-l] Good fusions, bad fusions (was SHSA Comps)

2003-01-23 Thread Tappan
Toby Rider wrote:


on my desert isle list :-) For instance, every album Alasdair Fraser has
released except for one, is basically fusion and I think they've all



Which one? I'd like to make sure to get that one.

Bob


Jumping into the fire here, I'd say Legacy of the Scottish Fiddle, 
Vol. 1, and probably Vol. 2 when it's released, and possibly also 
Portrait of a Scottish Fiddler are the most traditional and least 
fusion-like, though some folks might also argue for Driven Bow being 
fairly traditional as well. Just my opinion...

This seems like a good time to mention that I have sold Fiddlers 
Crossing to Debby Hand at Mountain Music in Tehachapi, CA. Contact 
information is at www.fiddlerscrossing.com, and they hope to have the 
catalog online at that URL in a month or two. I'm still serving as 
advisor to them and to customers, but the day to day operations have 
all moved north. I should be getting a teaching credential in June 
and with any luck will be gainfully employed teaching elementary 
school students in the fall.

Jan Tappan
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Re: [scots-l] Good fusions, bad fusions (was SHSA Comps)

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Wyrick
Tappan wrote:

 Toby Rider wrote:
 
 on my desert isle list :-) For instance, every album Alasdair Fraser has
 released except for one, is basically fusion and I think they've all
 
 
 Which one? I'd like to make sure to get that one.
 
 Bob
 
 Jumping into the fire here, I'd say Legacy of the Scottish Fiddle,
 Vol. 1, and probably Vol. 2 when it's released, and possibly also
 Portrait of a Scottish Fiddler are the most traditional and least
 fusion-like, though some folks might also argue for Driven Bow being
 fairly traditional as well. Just my opinion...

I agree with Jan.  I think I would have put Portrait... as his most
traditional album but it's been a while since I've heard it and I may be
misremembering it. 

Toby, your definition of fusion must be different than mine; when I think
of fusion I think of groups like The Peatbog Faeries and Shooglenifty, not
Alasdair Fraser!  What are you defining his style as a fusion of? -Steve
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