[Scottish] OT: If MS made toasters

2002-11-12 Thread george

  Slightly OT, but this arrived in my in box this morning.

 If Microsoft made toasters
--
Every time you bought a loaf of bread, you would have to buy a toaster.
You wouldn't have to take the toaster, but you'd still have to pay for
it anyway. XP Toaster  would weigh 15000 pounds (hence requiring a
reinforced steel countertop), draw enough electricity to power a small
city, take up 95% of the space in your kitchen, would claim to be the
first toaster that lets you control how light or dark you want your
toast to be, and would secretly interrogate your other appliances to
find out who made them. Everyone would hate Microsoft toasters, but
nonetheless would buy them
since most of the good bread only works with their toasters.

If Apple made toasters...
--
It would do everything the Microsoft toaster does, but 5 years earlier.

If Linux made toasters...
-
Anyone could build his own toaster from the spare parts in the garage,
but people would still pay money for pre-built toasters. All the parts
would be user serviceable, and the design plans would be freely
downloadable. Instead of the complexity of having to push a button, you
would simply type something like "toast-lightness?rk-bread-type=brown".
The toaster would burn your toast by default, but once you enable the
don't-burn-my-toast" feature in "toaster.conf" (as described in the
TOASTER-RTFM-HOWTO) it would toast reliably for years. People who eat
Linux toast say that it is better than Windows toast.


 And Microsoft would tell everyone that Linux Toast causes cancer...



George



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[Scottish] Revisited: qmail or exim and AV

2002-11-12 Thread Tam McLaughlin
EximEximincomingI thought I would just update those who were interested in 
what I eventually decided to do in regards to upgrading our email server. 

The problem:
We replaced our gauntlet firewall, which had sendmail and virus scanning of  
emails with smoothwall corporate  server. This meant that I had to upgrade 
our internal qmail server to include anti-virus scanning and tighten the 
anti-spam measures. I was  not sure whether to stick with qmail or  or what 
anti-virus software to use.

The solution:
I installed  and had a look at it but decided to stick with qmail as we 
already knew this and did not have a lot of time to get it up and running. 
I ended up with qmail+qmail_scanner+mcafee uvscan+spamassasin and it's 
all up and running without great difficulty.

I had difficulty getting prices for antivirus software for Linux but 
discovered that we already had McAfee's "uvscan" on the CD which came with 
our MS antivirus programs. The documentation even supplied a sample script 
and perl program to download the dat files each night which was easily 
adaptable. 

I considered installing everything by hand but decided it would be easier all 
round, especially documentation, to use the bigQ to automate most of the 
installations. I did try qmail-the-easy-way script but this had too many 
problems and found bigQ more robust as I tried the install a few times just 
to be sure I knew what was going on.


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Re: [Scottish] Quality, low cost hosting

2002-11-12 Thread David Irvine
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 12:50, Ritchie Logan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Been a lurker for a while I'm doing a network for someone as a sideline,
> and need some advice:
> 
> Sorry for being a wee bit OT, but I do remember this getting discussed in
> the past. can anyone recommend a good, low cost host for a small site
> with not a lot of traffic, ideally with either mail forwarding or a pop3
> box. Do I remember Black Cat Networks being mentioned, and either being very
> good or very bad??
> 
Black cat are excellent from what i've heard, but don't do hosting as
such (afaik) they just do rackspace and bandwidth.

Excaliber seem to be fairly reputable, i know they have some staff on
this list and from what i can tell they are fairly competant and have
competative prices.

Uklinux also do hosting, as do (I think) Ednet.


There are also a number of people on #scotlug who will happily host a
small site off the back of a cable/sdsl line if its not going to suck
bandwidth.

HTH

David


> Thanks for any comments.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ritchie
> 
> 
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Re: [Scottish] Quality, low cost hosting

2002-11-12 Thread Allan Whiteford
Ritchie Logan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Been a lurker for a while I'm doing a network for someone as a sideline,
> and need some advice:
> 
> Sorry for being a wee bit OT, but I do remember this getting discussed in
> the past. can anyone recommend a good, low cost host for a small site
> with not a lot of traffic, ideally with either mail forwarding or a pop3
> box. Do I remember Black Cat Networks being mentioned, and either being very
> good or very bad??
> 
> Thanks for any comments.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ritchie
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Richie,

Check out ukshells, http://www.ukshells.co.uk.

I used them for two years and they gave a great service.

Thanks,

Allan
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I thought I had a back-up, but she refused to type it in again.

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Re: [Scottish] Quality, low cost hosting

2002-11-12 Thread Kevin McDermott
* Ritchie Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Nov 12. 2002 12:53]:
> Hi,
> 
> Been a lurker for a while I'm doing a network for someone as a sideline,
> and need some advice:
> 
> Sorry for being a wee bit OT, but I do remember this getting discussed in
> the past. can anyone recommend a good, low cost host for a small site
> with not a lot of traffic, ideally with either mail forwarding or a pop3
> box. Do I remember Black Cat Networks being mentioned, and either being very
> good or very bad??
> 

I could certainly recommend Hostroute.co.uk.

http://www.hostroute.co.uk/hostingplans.html

I've got the Linux 200Mb Disk space option (9.95UKP/mo), and have been very pleased 
with it.

I've contacted their support for relatively silly reasons (my own mistakes) and have 
had a prompt service each time (even on Sunday afternoons).

It's a shared Linux box, RedHat IIRC, and you get ssh access.

HTH

Kevin

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[Scottish] Game server

2002-11-12 Thread Mark Robinson
Hello S.L.U.G,

Earlier this year some kind soul gave a talk on game servers on Linux.
Can someone remind me who it was, or can he email me please. I might
have a small job for him...

Thanks in advance
 Mark  mailto:mcr@;reason-technology.com


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[Scottish] Quality, low cost hosting

2002-11-12 Thread Ritchie Logan
Hi,

Been a lurker for a while I'm doing a network for someone as a sideline,
and need some advice:

Sorry for being a wee bit OT, but I do remember this getting discussed in
the past. can anyone recommend a good, low cost host for a small site
with not a lot of traffic, ideally with either mail forwarding or a pop3
box. Do I remember Black Cat Networks being mentioned, and either being very
good or very bad??

Thanks for any comments.

Cheers,

Ritchie



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