Re: [Server-devel] Name server operation

2009-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 dnsmasq on lo only and point bind to the use lo as the forwarder. This
 requires dnsmasq to listen on 127.0.0.1 and bind on 172.18.0.1. The
 resolv.conf.in file wound need to be removed from git, so the OS could
 manage resolv.conf on its own.

thinking more about this...

For a full dnsmasq setup, we will need to control resolv.conf and /etc/hosts:

 - To define the fqdn and the additional names it serves, we need to
control /etc/hosts

 - I think we will need to still control resolv.conf. I am not sure if
we really want it controlled by dhclient -- that would override
hand-picked DNSs, for example OpenDNS.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] Name server operation

2009-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rodolfo D. rodolfo.arc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I vote in favor of dnsmasq..

We all do. But I am leaning seriously towards F11.

 speaking of F11.. we read some issues regarding F9, and the whole
 infrastructure needed to build it.. I must admit that i understood less than
 half of it.. is it related to the F9 base, or is it more related to XS
 issues?

It is just a bit moreannoying to the developers working on the XS
itself. For end users, an F11-based XS will have security support into
the future, plus some bugfixes. In itself, it doesn't get us any
compelling improvements.

Fire-and-motion as they say.*

For developers, it does have some good things that are worthwhile. But
developers, we're here to suffer and serve :-)

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] Name server operation

2009-10-04 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 18:01 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I was thinking of a clean way to introduce the forward nameserver 
  info
  for the nameservice that the XS provides. The nice way that dnsmasq uses
 
 I like dnsmasq, and I am liking it even more as time passes. The thing
 is: I am looking at F11/XS0.7 and... I want to do one transition
 instead of two.
 
 Maybe I should bite and get this transition in 0.6, and then go onto F11?
 
 Hmm hmm...
 

At least require it now in xs-config.spec, that way the package is
installed, waiting to be configured. 

Still like the split bind/dnsmasq for now, solves some issues, leaves
the door open for a quick config file change in the future.

Jerry


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Re: [Server-devel] Name server operation

2009-10-04 Thread Rodolfo D.
I vote in favor of dnsmasq..

speaking of F11.. we read some issues regarding F9, and the whole
infrastructure needed to build it.. I must admit that i understood less than
half of it.. is it related to the F9 base, or is it more related to XS
issues?

cheers.. R



2009/10/4 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca

 On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 18:01 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
  I was thinking of a clean way to introduce the forward
 nameserver info
   for the nameservice that the XS provides. The nice way that dnsmasq
 uses
 
  I like dnsmasq, and I am liking it even more as time passes. The thing
  is: I am looking at F11/XS0.7 and... I want to do one transition
  instead of two.
 
  Maybe I should bite and get this transition in 0.6, and then go onto F11?
 
  Hmm hmm...
 

 At least require it now in xs-config.spec, that way the package is
 installed, waiting to be configured.

 Still like the split bind/dnsmasq for now, solves some issues, leaves
 the door open for a quick config file change in the future.

 Jerry


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