[silk] algaculture researchers

2007-03-22 Thread Eugen Leitl

It's a long shot, but can any of you help me to 
connect with local algaculture researchers/practical grower
(preferrably, published and/or accredited) people either in 
India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Brasilia or Thailand?

This is for-profit, and not just an idle query.
Thanks!

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Re: [silk] Booze lovers unite in Kerala

2007-03-22 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy

LOL!!! I saw this on TV.  with the Spokesperson standing in front of a
country liquor shop. Talking something like this The plight of an
average malayali.. Booze contributes 2nd highest income after
tourism in kerala

On 3/22/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=Nationalid=102373

Booze lovers unite in Kerala

Nandagopal

Tuesday, March 20, 2007 (Thiruvananthpuram):

Alcohol consumers from across Kerala have come together to form the
All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare Association.

The association has acquired over 68,000 members from across the state
within just two months of its formation and the numbers are growing.

With a per capita alcohol consumption of 8.3 litres, Kerala has the
dubious distinction of being India's liquor capital.

The association has a list of 15 demands for the state government.

Its a tall order on most counts asking for liquor through ration
shops, bar homes where people can have a drink without police
harassment, pension for the liquor consumer's family, no dry days and
a crackdown on adulteration of liquor.

Earlier we used to get country liquor for Rs 10. We would get
intoxicated and be happy. Now even if we pay Rs 200, we don't get a
kick. What sort of liquor is that? It is not good at all, said Adinad
Sashi, President, All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare Associaion.

Source of revenue

The response to the association has been overwhelming with over 68,000
members in just two months. It now plans to go international for the
benefit of expat Malayalis.

People are calling us from Dubai, Bahrain and Kuwait to set up units
of our association there. They are willing to meet all our expenses,
said Vauvakavu Basheer, Convenor, All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare
Association.

After tourism, alcohol is the second biggest source of revenue for the
state government and for a state with debts to the tune of Rs 50,
crore, it is difficult to do away with the drinking habit.





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Re: [silk] algaculture researchers

2007-03-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 04:33:24PM +0530, Aditya Kapil wrote:

 http://www.ablbiotechnologies.com/.
 We considered these guys, at one time, for an investment but . So you
 may have to approach them yourself. Having said that they have a fairly
 impressive organism library and culture techniques (at small and large
 scale). They also have good links with marine biology academia.

Thanks.

Another question: assuming one wants to do a large-scale pilot somewhere
in South India, which requires controlled eutrophication of a body of
water (ordinarily quite safe, but you *can* get an uncontrolled toxic algal 
bloom,
of course) -- getting this approved though the regular channels without 
bribes is out of question, right?

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Re: [silk] Booze lovers unite in Kerala

2007-03-22 Thread Deepa Mohan

Ah, a boozeness organization. I can see worldwide chapters.

Deepa.

On 3/22/07, Ramakrishna Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LOL!!! I saw this on TV.  with the Spokesperson standing in front of a
country liquor shop. Talking something like this The plight of an
average malayali.. Booze contributes 2nd highest income after
tourism in kerala

On 3/22/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=Nationalid=102373

 Booze lovers unite in Kerala

 Nandagopal

 Tuesday, March 20, 2007 (Thiruvananthpuram):

 Alcohol consumers from across Kerala have come together to form the
 All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare Association.

 The association has acquired over 68,000 members from across the state
 within just two months of its formation and the numbers are growing.

 With a per capita alcohol consumption of 8.3 litres, Kerala has the
 dubious distinction of being India's liquor capital.

 The association has a list of 15 demands for the state government.

 Its a tall order on most counts asking for liquor through ration
 shops, bar homes where people can have a drink without police
 harassment, pension for the liquor consumer's family, no dry days and
 a crackdown on adulteration of liquor.

 Earlier we used to get country liquor for Rs 10. We would get
 intoxicated and be happy. Now even if we pay Rs 200, we don't get a
 kick. What sort of liquor is that? It is not good at all, said Adinad
 Sashi, President, All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare Associaion.

 Source of revenue

 The response to the association has been overwhelming with over 68,000
 members in just two months. It now plans to go international for the
 benefit of expat Malayalis.

 People are calling us from Dubai, Bahrain and Kuwait to set up units
 of our association there. They are willing to meet all our expenses,
 said Vauvakavu Basheer, Convenor, All Kerala Liquor Consumers' Welfare
 Association.

 After tourism, alcohol is the second biggest source of revenue for the
 state government and for a state with debts to the tune of Rs 50,
 crore, it is difficult to do away with the drinking habit.




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Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:46:16AM +0100, Dave Long wrote:
 So, apart from the former being atoms and the latter being bits, what are  
 the differences between khadi and open source software?

most people who wear khadi today neither spin their own cotton, weave their own 
cloth, or have any clue as to how that is done.

most people buy khadi from large shops such as khadi gramudyog, and the 
production while not mechanical is pretty industrial in its structure.

given that the end-product is a cloth with no more malleability (source code) 
than any industrially produced cloth, i can't see what's similar between open 
source and the real production of khadi (as opposed to some arbitrary imagined 
form).

-rishab



Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread Neha Viswanathan


most people buy khadi from large shops such as khadi gramudyog, and the
production while not mechanical is pretty industrial in its structure.



Many people who use software based on open source, have no idea about open
source . They download because others do, and because it's free. It has
little to do with their ideology, and more to do with what is functional.





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Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
did you mean white or phoren? one of the (handful of) infosys's
foreign interns is my cousin, who is not white. i didn't get the
impression that all the others were white, though they were recruited in
the US.

On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 10:14 +0530, Biju Chacko wrote:
 And just to be cynical -- it's amazing how in India a white person's
 skills will be more advanced than those of an Indian with exactly the
 same skills.
 
 Or at least, that's the impression I get from all the press that
 Infosys's foreign intern programme has been getting.

\




Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
the infosys foreign intern programme was apparently designed so that
infosys could benefit from the closer links (cultural, etc) the interns
had with the target (foreign) markets. the interns spend some months at
infosys in india, then they're sent back to the US to work for infosys
there.

my cousin said that one key difference they felt was that ui design in
india was quite different from what end-users in the US expected.

On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 11:54 +0530, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
 My impression was more of Look, this is an Indian company which has
 grown so big as to recruit US techs. This is news solely because of the
 flood of people who used to join MNCs rather than Indian companies.





Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 07:52:01AM -0700, Thaths wrote:
 Perhaps Khadi is more like farmers market or Fair Trade markets.
 People feel that a sizable portion of the money they spend goes to the
 producer.

there is nothing that specifically guarantees this. khadi is handmade cloth. 
lots of other things are hand made, with intermediaries getting the biggest 
share of the retail sale price.



Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 22 Mar 2007 9:51 am, Charles Haynes wrote:
 Khadi seems like a perfect vehicle for that. Handmade, by individuals,
 it should be perfect for throwing the hypocrisy of politicians back in
 their faces.


I don't know.

I visit a hospital close to the Karnataka State legislature and frequently see 
people from there - including legislators and their drivers. It is very 
difficult to differentiate one from the other because they are always dressed 
in all white.

But I think drivers wear polyester and politicians khadi.

shiv



Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
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shiv sastry said the following on 22/03/2007 19:19:

 But I think drivers wear polyester and politicians khadi.

And the society housewives wear Fabindia khadi or _linen_.

Pay through the nose for it too - for badly stitched stuff that loses
colour everytime you put it in the wash.

I'm all for directly paying the producer, but why on earth do outfits
like Fabindia (which rake most of the loot in) exist?

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Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan

On 3/16/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

All that might well be history real soon, given the change this year
in Infy's strategy to hiring from Indian B-schools. By (a) doubling
salary they offered last year, (b) recruiting directly for onsite
engagement manager positions, and (c) recruiting selectively (about
15-20 grads across Indian B-schools) they have certainly shaken up
things a bit, and it's no longer true that they 'cant find enough
intelligent people in India who would care for them'


I'd like to meet the sucker(s?) who signed up to work for Infy last
year only to see the next class make double right out of college and
go on to better jobs.

Cheeni



Re: [silk] khadi vs. open source

2007-03-22 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: [ on 11:17 PM 3/22/2007 ]


And the society housewives wear Fabindia khadi or _linen_.

Pay through the nose for it too - for badly stitched stuff that loses
colour everytime you put it in the wash.

I'm all for directly paying the producer, but why on earth do outfits
like Fabindia (which rake most of the loot in) exist?


I paraphrase what Bruce Sterling said when he launched the whole 
viridian design thing several years ago:


The only way that social movements will succeed is if you make them 
*cool* (i.e., fashionable).


Udhay

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Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Badri Natarajan
 On 3/16/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]

 I'd like to meet the sucker(s?) who signed up to work for Infy last
 year only to see the next class make double right out of college and
 go on to better jobs.

Surely last year's MBAs will have seen a salary hike so that they are not
making less than people a year below them? And more responsibility as
well?

If not, there will be a riot..



Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan

On 3/22/07, Badri Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3/16/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]

 I'd like to meet the sucker(s?) who signed up to work for Infy last
 year only to see the next class make double right out of college and
 go on to better jobs.

Surely last year's MBAs will have seen a salary hike so that they are not
making less than people a year below them? And more responsibility as
well?


Show me a company that will be that fair...it's usually a 10-20%
increase once you are collared.



If not, there will be a riot..


You'd think!

Cheeni



Re: [silk] expat in india...

2007-03-22 Thread Badri Natarajan

 Surely last year's MBAs will have seen a salary hike so that they are
 not
 making less than people a year below them? And more responsibility as
 well?

 Show me a company that will be that fair...it's usually a 10-20%
 increase once you are collared.

I think it depends a lot on how the company hires. For companies that do a
lot of hiring of fresh graduates who progress in a structured way (law
firms, consulting firms, even Infosys for its programmers), I don't see
how they can have a salary structure where the junior person is earning
more than the senior person - it's just a recipe for tension and all kinds
of craziness. I have literally never heard of it happening in that kind of
situation.

However, perhaps there are so few MBAs and they're all doing different
things that it is possible to get away with paying the new MBAs more than
the existing ones.

In any case - we don't know for sure what the old MBAs are being paid,
right? They may well have benefited from the same salary hike (job
responsibilities are a different issue).

Badri