Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-14 Thread Ingrid
On 14 June 2011 10:03, J. Alfred Prufrock another.prufr...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Chestnut alert - If you can get paid for doing what you enjoy, you never
 have to work another day in your life.

 I have a 5 year deadline to get to that state.
 *


Can absolutely vouch for that old chestnut. Have been the beneficiary of
such a state for all but 18 months of the past 25 years. she said smugly


Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-13 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
*Chestnut alert - If you can get paid for doing what you enjoy, you never
have to work another day in your life.

I have a 5 year deadline to get to that state.


-- 
J. Alfred Prufrock

Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
I do not know whether a man or a woman
- But who is that on the other side of you?*


Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 I got recommended a book called The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work[1]
 today. I am unlikely to get hold of it due to a couple of adverse
 reviews I read

It isn't specifically a bad read. I was a bit intrigued by the
reviews. The book picks up specific occupations and, not too diverse
at that, and thereafter provides some narrative to the pleasures and
sorrows part.

Worth a read if you pick it up from somewhere.

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/



Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-13 Thread Radhika, Y.

 After much soul-searching and profound thinking, I have found that the
 only acceptable level of trade-off is what your spouse/significant
 other/kids allow you to get away with.


AMEN.

-- 
“Be careful what you water your dreams with. Water them with worry and fear
and you will produce weeds that choke the life from your dream. Water them
with optimism and solutions and you will cultivate success. Always be on the
lookout for ways to turn a problem into an opportunity for success. Always
be on the lookout for ways to nurture your dream. ~ Lao Tzu
(courtesy -Peacefrog)


Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-13 Thread Mahesh Murthy
 After much soul-searching and profound thinking, I have found that the
 only acceptable level of trade-off is what your spouse/significant
 other/kids allow you to get away with.

I've found the contrary to be true. Live life with no trade-off whatsoever
and the near and dear around you love you even more for it, making
allowances for you and your proclivities.


[silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
I got recommended a book called The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work[1]
today. I am unlikely to get hold of it due to a couple of adverse
reviews I read, but the topic is if great interest to me. Quoting from
an old blogpost of mine on the topic [2]:

quote

[...] presumably, an order of magnitude more people who are debating
this question with themselves: Is it worth it, really? (for whatever
values of it seem reasonable to you.)

Speaking for myself, I'm grappling with the question too. I went through
the live at work, define yourself by your job, burn out spectacularly
phase along with various other people during the dotcom boom; and
promised myself that it wouldn't happen again.

Actually being serious about that promise had various implications. Here
are some:

Spending only a reasonable amount of time at work implied that one would
have sufficiently interesting things to do outside of work, which again
meant that the constant cultivation of interesting friends and ideas was
a necessity, not just a hobby.

Realising that being a B player was not just not-a-bad-thing, but that
there were contexts within which it was an excellent idea.

snip

And, of course, the fact that I acquired a family along the way - a
wife, and then a daughter - makes the above all the more important as an
internal dialogue. What is the acceptable level of trade-off? How does
one define acceptable, anyway?

Interesting times (there's that word again!)

So, how does everybody else deal with this?

[1] http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307277259
[2] http://udhay.livejournal.com/924.html
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-12 Thread Shoba Narayan

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 I got recommended a book called The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work[1]
 today. I am unlikely to get hold of it due to a couple of adverse
 reviews I read, but the topic is if great interest to me. Quoting from
 an old blogpost of mine on the topic [2]:

 quote

 [...] presumably, an order of magnitude more people who are debating
 this question with themselves: Is it worth it, really? (for whatever
 values of it seem reasonable to you.)

 Speaking for myself, I'm grappling with the question too. I went through
 the live at work, define yourself by your job, burn out spectacularly
 phase along with various other people during the dotcom boom; and
 promised myself that it wouldn't happen again.

 Actually being serious about that promise had various implications. Here
 are some:

 Spending only a reasonable amount of time at work implied that one would
 have sufficiently interesting things to do outside of work, which again
 meant that the constant cultivation of interesting friends and ideas was
 a necessity, not just a hobby.

 Realising that being a B player was not just not-a-bad-thing, but that
 there were contexts within which it was an excellent idea.

 snip

 And, of course, the fact that I acquired a family along the way - a
 wife, and then a daughter - makes the above all the more important as an
 internal dialogue. What is the acceptable level of trade-off? How does
 one define acceptable, anyway?

 Interesting times (there's that word again!)

 So, how does everybody else deal with this?

 [1] http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307277259
 [2] http://udhay.livejournal.com/924.html
 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))


After much soul-searching and profound thinking, I have found that the
only acceptable level of trade-off is what your spouse/significant
other/kids allow you to get away with.



Re: [silk] The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work

2011-06-12 Thread Charles Haynes
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Shoba Narayan sh...@shobanarayan.com wrote:
 From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com

 internal dialogue. What is the acceptable level of trade-off? How does
 one define acceptable, anyway?

 So, how does everybody else deal with this?

 After much soul-searching and profound thinking, I have found that the
 only acceptable level of trade-off is what your spouse/significant
 other/kids allow you to get away with.

Is the relationship reflexive? I.E. is their only acceptable tradeoff
what you allow them to get away with? If so, turn the question around
- how much is acceptable (by you) for them?

If not, why does someone else decide what's acceptable both for you
and for them?

-- Charles