Re: CSRheumatoid Arthritis Caution on Chondrotin

2002-05-10 Thread Marlene Hanson
Hi All, just read report stating that Chondrotin has been found to expedite 
both prostate and breast cancer in progress. Current Study showed Glucosamine 
and MSN doesn't cause problems with these cancers. Marlene   
  
- Original Message -
From: j...@natel.net
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRheumatoid Arthritis (was Re: CSFw: SO Please Help if you can.)
  
In article 000e01c1f75e$b1f69bc0$e232e...@computer,
Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx wrote:

Have you tried glucosamine chrondritin and MSM?

Also, try cutting from the diet all nightshade veggies (tomatoes,
potatoes, peppers,  eggplant.)

I had an arthritic-like condition of the joints and connective tissue
that I believe may have been caused by cigarette smoking, and I found
that eliminating all nightshades greatly reduced the number of
flare-ups. After about three years of no smoking the condition
disappeared, and I can again eat as many nightshade veggies as I want.

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Re: CSABX don't work for bronchitis

2002-05-10 Thread Russ Rosser
My problem was infection in the plural cavity *surrounding* the lungs--not
on them, so I included DMSO.  However, simply embibing the DMSO/CS evidently
worked better than nebuilzing...!?  Given DMSO's penetrating power, one can
visualize what a short trip it is from the stomach to the lungs.

(Re: penetrating power, I recently suggested that a friend soak his toe in
DMSO/CS until he tasted sulphur.  It took about 8 minutes!)

--Russ

- Original Message -
 For bronchitis and bronchial flu you don't even need the MSM and DMSO; the
 nebulizer works fine.



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Re: CSbottle for cs

2002-05-10 Thread Tad Winiecki
A couple of solvents that are more natural and don't have petroleum fumes
would be orange oil or tea tree oil as in Melaleuca's (a MLM company)
Solumel product, which takes off labels well.

I use old brown cod liver oil or other supplement glass bottles.  I have
had a struggle getting the oil slick out of the cod liver oil bottles but
tried filling them with vinegar.  Having residue left in the bottles seems
to cause silver to fall out and deposit on the glass.

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Re: CSRE: CS and herpes

2002-05-10 Thread Connie
Feline fanciers, who use CS, use it regularly in the eyes. Herpes is one of
those feline viruss that most often causes URI.
So yes, use in the eye for herpesalong with MSM!
Connie


 From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net
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 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:44:01 -0700
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 Subject: CSRE: CS and herpes
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 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 22:39:13 -0700
 
 Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes?
 
 
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Re: CSRE: CS and herpes

2002-05-10 Thread Bill Missett
I've used it in the eyes, but not for herpes.

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:44 AM
Subject: CSRE: CS and herpes


 Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes?
 
 
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Re: CSany suggestions?

2002-05-10 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Thanks to all for the suggestions about morning sickness. My son went out
and bought some ginger for his wife yesterday.
I hope it works!
Love,
Marshalee


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RE: CSRE: CS and herpes

2002-05-10 Thread John Reeder
Try it, won't cause any damage. I used cs for an endemic case of
pink eye. Gone, gone, gone.

John

-Original Message-
From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRE: CS and herpes


Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes?


ed


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CSChicken pox, herpes, etc.

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Chicken pox is a form of the herpes virus, as are
shingles, cold and canker sores, measles and others.

All of them are killed by CS, and all of them go away
in the presence of the amino acid L-lysine.

With shingles (Herpes Zoster) the CS needs to be
applied to the skin (as well as ingested), both on a
regular, frequent basis.

L-lysine should be ingested at a level of about 1,000
mg every 2 hours, or 3,000 mg with each meal.

Both CS and lysine are effective against all forms of
herpes, but the two combined are very powerful. They
can safely be consumed at the same time.

My own experience with Herpes Simplex I (cold sores)
was a steroid-aggravated occasion (compliments of an
ignorant doctor) that covered my whole head, neck,
shoulders, half-way down my chest and half-way down my
back. I was in Stanford hospital for nearly a week, on
codeine the whole time, and the doctors had no clue
what to do. They finally baked me for 4 days under a
high-powered infra-red lamp, and the the herpes
subsided. (They made me promise I wouldn't sue them if
I got skin cancer!)

Ever since then (30 years ago), I experienced cold
sore outbreaks on my face 2-4 times a year, which
would spread all over my face and neck if I didn't
respond to it promptly. Responding to it promptly, I
discovered, meant ingesting copious amounts of lysine
(5,000-10,000 mg/day). This treatment stopped the
spread of the sores immediately, and they would be
gone in 3-4 days.

Ever since I began drinking CS 4 years ago (10-20
oz/day), I have had only one cold sore.

I consider the CS/lysine combination to be the most
effective approach to combatting all forms of the
herpes virus.

Of nearly equal importance is to adjust one's diet to
complement the supplementation.

Because the herpes virus thrives on the amino acid
arginine, one must omit from one's diet (at least
temporarily) those foods which are high in arginine.
That would include all nuts, seeds, beans and grains.
The food that is highest in arginine is chocolate,
followed closely by peanuts, then lesser amounts in
other nuts, beans, seeds and grains.

A temporary therapeutic diet composed of fruits,
vegetables, meats and dairy products will avoid
additional arginine. Any protein is high in lysine. 

It's not that you must eat meat or dairy products,
it's that you must avoid nuts, beans, seeds and
grains. (Remember, coffee is a bean, and is therefore
high in arginine.) Once the herpes outbreak is gone,
you can again consume those foods. Meat and dairy
products, being proteins, are high in lysine.

Since the outbreak of those all-over sores I had, I
cannot now get away with eating chocolate or peanuts
at any time without the high probability of cold sores
appearing.

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1  314 Carleton Rd
Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
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Re: CSa Sugar Pill is hard to beat.....

2002-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
 This is 'proof' that a persons mind is a very powerful element whether it
is helped along by drugs or spiritual connectivity as in faith healings. 
Both serve to remind the mind of its power.
 Both reminders allow deniability.
 Change your mind and the universe it finds itself in changes with it.
 Any means, reason or excuse will do.
 Everything works..now, just what is it I'm doing?

...By the fruits
ken



The confounding and controversial findings do not mean that antidepressants
do not work. But clinicians and researchers say the results do suggest that
Americans may be overestimating the power of the drugs, and that the
medicines' greatest benefits may come from the care and concern shown to
patients during a clinical trial -- a context that does not exist for
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Re: CScs color

2002-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote

  It's post process agglomeration of small particles into big ones which
could be caused by nearly anything.
 Ken

At 02:12 PM 5/8/02 +, you wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm seeing things here. The cs I made a few days ago is 
showing a VERY slight pinkish tint. What is that??
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Re: CSbottle for cs

2002-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
 Use lighter fluid/ Coleman or other camp stove fuel fuel/ naptha..all the
same thing.
 Won't harm most plastics like acetone, laquer thinner or goof off.
 97+% isopropal alchohol [not 50%] removes many gums and glues...works
quite well on undried silicon caulk.
Varsol/ mineral spirits/ paint thinner...all the same thing.
 Ken


At 09:24 AM 5/8/02 -0500, you wrote:
In article 17c683ca7e39d511aca500047630810203754...@twm06.tacom.army.mil,
Medwith, Robert medwi...@tacom.army.mil wrote:
Arozona tea (herbal) comes in cobalt blue bottles

Most of our CS is kept in a plastic DW jug in the kitchen, but we keep
some in blue Arizona bottles in other parts of the house.

The only draw back you need a good solvent to take gum off once
the labels are pealed I happened to have some MEK (methyl Ethel keytone)
from the emron paint I use on my boat There are other solvents that work

Funny you should mention that because just a couple days ago I bought
some solvents because the label adhesive on the Arizona bottles was
bothering me. First I tried a product called Goof Off, and I suppose
if I used enough of it long enough I might get the goo off, but mostly
what it did was smear the goo all over the bottle. I then switched to
acetone which stripped the adhesive right off the bottle in seconds.

Warning: please use protective gloves when handling paper towels/rags
soaked with solvent.

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RE: CSRE: CS and herpes

2002-05-10 Thread Ed Kasper
Thanks for the response.

ed

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From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: CS and herpes


I've used it in the eyes, but not for herpes.

- Original Message - 
From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:44 AM
Subject: CSRE: CS and herpes


 Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes?
 
 
 ed


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Re: CScs color

2002-05-10 Thread sylvie hargraft

Is it still usable or should dispose of this?
Sylvie


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From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:33:09 -0400


  It's post process agglomeration of small particles into big ones which
could be caused by nearly anything.
 Ken

At 02:12 PM 5/8/02 +, you wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm seeing things here. The cs I made a few days ago is
showing a VERY slight pinkish tint. What is that??
Sylvie


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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread wolfcreek1
 The traditional primary route of administration of CS in effective use of
 CS, certainly in man in its heyday---was that in the mid '30s ?is IV,
 Isotonic.  Probably a job for a pro.

I am checking with a friend's vet, who may be interested in seeing if CAE
can be cured for his other clients.  Possibly won't cost me an arm and a
leg, as giving goats an IV would be difficult, I think.  Would have to
sedate them and I am NOT familiar with needles at all, as we never use them.
Willing to make an exception for this situation tho.  I really think CS can
cure them.

 I have seen one horse with septic arthritis in the (2nd ?) joint, spend 3K
 on antibiotics to no avail and save the joint with about a Gal of CS in
the
 water over several days. I could get the details.

If it's not too much trouble, any and all information is appreciated.
Wondering if probiotics were given to this horse as well.

 If I knew no better I
 would trust that abnormal digestion might indicate too much---except I
don't
 have any idea what would happen if you adjusted the diet, gave a Ruminate
a
 large series of oral doses and then replaced the flora if you could get
the
 blood levels close to that of a light IV dose.

I have decided I would add probiotics to the goat grain mix, as I surely
don't want problems with their rumens shutting down.  It is my intent to
help them heal of CAE, and not kill or harm them in the process, surely.

 Then there are the transport enhancement effects of the BB group
 CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers mix, that will cause good or bad stuff to be
 absorbed at about 4X the rate of the substance itself will absorb.  It
would
 be interesting to calculate a comparison set of CS blood levels plotted
 against dose and time.   That might shorten the time of the shock to the
 digestion.

I am not as educated in this area as you and would like to e-mail you
off-list for further information.  I keep detailed records on all batches of
CS we make and further have greatly detailed info on all parvo puppies that
have been brought to us in my research files, so I am game to keeping
detailed records and experimenting with the method(s) of CS administration
and providing such info to others who may find it useful.

Would you mind if I contacted you off-list to gather further info?

Thank you,

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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread Marshall Dudley
Goats are ruminates:

Order Artiodactyla (even-toed hoofed animals)

Hoofed animals with an even number of toes include those that ruminate, or
digest their food in four-chamber stomachs and
chew cuds, and those that do not ruminate. Those that ruminate are the families
Girrafidae (giraffes). Cervidae (deer, moose,
reindeer, elk). Antilocapridae (pronghorn antelope), and Bovidae (cattle, bison,
yaks, waterbucks, wildebeest, gazelles,
springboks, sheep, musk oxen, goats). Nonruminators include the families Suidae
(pigs), Tayassuidae (peccaries),
Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses), and Camelidae (camels, llamas).

Marshall


Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread wolfcreek1
 First off, are goats ruminants (sp)?

Yes, they are ruminants.

 If they are, then drinking it would not be a good idea.  I would think
that IV would be the best method if you know what you are doing.  Spraying
it up their noses or injecting it may not get it where it needs to go.  Just
my opinion.

Wouldn't the addition of probiotics be enough to keep the good bacteria in
their rumens?  If possible, I am looking for the easiest method of CS
administration that would still render it effective for this virus.  I am
not experienced with needles, #1, infact we NEVER use needles here, but I am
willing to find someone more experienced to help me administer via IV, if
necessary, as I think CS will work.  More than 65% of the US dairy goat
population tests positive for CAE, per the Merck Vet Manual '98 edition.
Many just kill these CAE positive goats.  Many could not afford the vet
costs associated with IV's.  Thusly, I am hoping to find a cheap method of
administration, so that others might benefit, if we can prove it works
orally or nasally.  I am personally willing to do whatever it takes and find
those necessary to help me with IV's, if required, but I know those with
large dairy goat farms would not be willing to expense for the vet care
costs.

A friend of mine recently cured a goat of listeriosis with CS nasally.
Listeriosis is a bacterial disease.  She had already lost one goat to this
disease using penecillin.   On two occassions, I have administered CS
nasally to myself and the 2nd time I got too many drops at once, which shot
directly to my brain (UGH) and left me spell bound for about 45 seconds, so
I believe nasally, it would reach the brain, which is one area CAE affects
the goats.

Thank you so much for your input.  I welcome any other thoughts or ideas.  I
plan to research this thoroughly, before jumping in and doing anything, but
hopefully by late summer we will be using CS on these goats.

Hugs  Howls,

Julie  Critters


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RE: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
A lot of antibiotics had been unsuccessfully given. It may take me a while
make a space to talk with the  owner of the horse.

In another case, I heard of Eastern Equine Encephalitis being cured by two
large doses of 15 PPM CS, IV.  From Memory, they were 1500 cc two days
apart. The horse was unharmed by the usually fatal viral infection. This was
administered by a vet.  I would apply the human rule and proportion it for
the animal weight.  Toxic dose of Ag for 150 lb human is 3.8 GRAMS per day.

Also, Parvo cured in dogs by mouth.

Both the above are viral.

You may contact me at a...@cybermesa.com.  Probably the best thing for me to
call my friend and ask him if you can call and discuss directly his
experience with the horse.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
From:   wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net]
Sent:   Friday, May 10, 2002 11:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

 The traditional primary route of administration of CS in effective use of
 CS, certainly in man in its heyday---was that in the mid '30s ?is IV,
 Isotonic.  Probably a job for a pro.

I am checking with a friend's vet, who may be interested in seeing if CAE
can be cured for his other clients.  Possibly won't cost me an arm and a
leg, as giving goats an IV would be difficult, I think.  Would have to
sedate them and I am NOT familiar with needles at all, as we never use them.
Willing to make an exception for this situation tho.  I really think CS can
cure them.

 I have seen one horse with septic arthritis in the (2nd ?) joint, spend 3K
 on antibiotics to no avail and save the joint with about a Gal of CS in
the
 water over several days. I could get the details.

If it's not too much trouble, any and all information is appreciated.
Wondering if probiotics were given to this horse as well.

 If I knew no better I
 would trust that abnormal digestion might indicate too much---except I
don't
 have any idea what would happen if you adjusted the diet, gave a Ruminate
a
 large series of oral doses and then replaced the flora if you could get
the
 blood levels close to that of a light IV dose.

I have decided I would add probiotics to the goat grain mix, as I surely
don't want problems with their rumens shutting down.  It is my intent to
help them heal of CAE, and not kill or harm them in the process, surely.

 Then there are the transport enhancement effects of the BB group
 CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers mix, that will cause good or bad stuff to be
 absorbed at about 4X the rate of the substance itself will absorb.  It
would
 be interesting to calculate a comparison set of CS blood levels plotted
 against dose and time.   That might shorten the time of the shock to the
 digestion.

I am not as educated in this area as you and would like to e-mail you
off-list for further information.  I keep detailed records on all batches of
CS we make and further have greatly detailed info on all parvo puppies that
have been brought to us in my research files, so I am game to keeping
detailed records and experimenting with the method(s) of CS administration
and providing such info to others who may find it useful.

Would you mind if I contacted you off-list to gather further info?

Thank you,

Julie  Critters



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Re: CScs color

2002-05-10 Thread wolfcreek1
 Is it still usable or should dispose of this?

Hi Sylvie ~

I know Ken will reply to your question, but thought I would offer our
preferences.  Since CS is so easy to make, anything that turns off color
(i.e., being cooked too long) we use as a topical spray or in the garden,
but don't internally ingest.  I'm sure you could ingest this, but I have
never had CS turn pink.  When we cook to 4 mA's or 5 mA's it gets dark with
grayish/blackish tints.  This we use as stated above.  3mA's seems to be the
perfect product for us as it is clean and clear.

Do you rinse your CS container with DW before use?  Anytime we make any
changes to our CS, i.e., cleaning wires, I always rinse the wires and jars
with DW.

Just our opinions.

Happy Howling,

Julie  Critters
Wolf Creek Ranch
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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #347

2002-05-10 Thread Tad Winiecki

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Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:24:47 -0600
From: Marshalee Hallett liah...@utah-inter.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSany suggestions?
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Hi, folks! My daughter-in-law is newly pregnant and morning sickness is
hitting her like a ton of bricks.
Any suggestions on something she can try?
She is taking B vitamins, a 50 mg complex.
Thanks,
Marshalee


Marshalee-  My daughter-in-law is expecting my first grandchild this fall
as well, so I will be Granny Nanny soon.;-)  I used Adelle Davis' Lets
Have Healthy Children extensively during my 3 pregnancies and raising my
kids, and she always had a vitamin or mineral answer for everything.  Now I
also learn and know about herbs and CS as well.  Anyway, she recommends B6
for nausea, 10 mg to prevent, 25 mg to stop, and up to 250 mg for severe
cases.  The other thing is the relation of nausea to low blood sugar, as
after sleeping all night.  To prevent this, she recommends eating a protein
snack with some natural carbohydrate, like milk fortified with brewer's
yeast or protein powder, eggs and toast, or cheese and fruit, at bedtime.
Then eat a little protein before getting up in the morning, and eat small
amounts frequently of the same during the day, or spread the food from each
meal out by eating a little every hour or two instead of all at once
liah...@utah-inter.net.  I would carry protein snacks like cheese, nuts, or
peanut butter and crackers with me everywhere and snack frequently when I
was pregnant and it worked well.  The only time I threw up was one morning
when I ate sweet rolls for breakfast.  Adelle Davis also stresses the need
for more protein when pregnant, 75-90 grams, and counting grams to make
sure intake is adequate.  Avoid sugar and white flour and processed food.

Incidentally, I found out the hard way that little kids also need constant
snacking with protein foods to keep their blood sugar level up between
meals.  The brain is the most sensitive organ in the body to low blood
sugar and the control centers of the brain shut down when the blood sugar
is low, so temper tantrums and fits are the result.  One of my daughters
demonstrated this when I was busy and didn't keep her blood sugar level up,
and another daughter perhaps had this problem but also lost control after
eating red food coloring.

Nancy



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Re: CScs color

2002-05-10 Thread sylvie hargraft
Thanks for your reply. Some have suggested that it would be soap residue. I 
don't remember having used soap to clean my jar at all. Puzzled me. As for 
wires, as soon as the gen stops, I wipe the silver wires very well. I do not 
get this nice original shinyness, I assumed it was a result of using them. 
Should I scrub them?? I always meant to ask if it mattered in which holes I 
put them, since they have a different purpose. Can their position be 
reversed(changing hole)? Having the Ole Bob gen. from silverpuppy, what 
could cause to cook too long since it stops on its own?

we use as a topical spray
How exactly do you use it in the sprayer and for what purpose? If I was to 
mix cs with msm gel, is there some specification as to how much to put of 
each ingredient?
Sorry about all the questions here but I am trying to keep them to a 
minimum. This whole world is uite new to me.

Sylvie


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From: wolfcreek1 wolfcre...@earthlink.net
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:32:20 -0700

 Is it still usable or should dispose of this?

Hi Sylvie ~

I know Ken will reply to your question, but thought I would offer our
preferences.  Since CS is so easy to make, anything that turns off color
(i.e., being cooked too long) we use as a topical spray or in the garden,
but don't internally ingest.  I'm sure you could ingest this, but I have
never had CS turn pink.  When we cook to 4 mA's or 5 mA's it gets dark with
grayish/blackish tints.  This we use as stated above.  3mA's seems to be the
perfect product for us as it is clean and clear.

Do you rinse your CS container with DW before use?  Anytime we make any
changes to our CS, i.e., cleaning wires, I always rinse the wires and jars
with DW.

Just our opinions.

Happy Howling,

Julie  Critters
Wolf Creek Ranch
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http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html
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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread John Osowiecki

Julie,
Not meaning to make light of a serious subject.okperhaps I
am. ~:-}  I got quite a chuckle out of the thought of attempting to shoot
CS up your goats nose...I would say that would take LOADS of
assistance AND experience.

On a more serious note, I cured my chronically ill, immune suppressed
daughter of a life threatening viral illness that the doctors couldn't
treat.  I administered the CS to her in many ways: orally, dropped in the
nose, nebulized into the lungs, and through a tube into her gall bladder
(essentially IV).  My point being, that attacking it from ALL directions
seemed to be the thing that brought the virus to it's knees and got her
stablized. In light of my experience in a human, I would suggest getting it
in to your goat in as many ways as you canbut
wouldn't want to be the one to have to try to get it in their
nose..I thought holding my daughter down was tough! ~:-}

Hope this helps,
Christiane

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how CS would be best
  administered to goats for this type of virus?  I don't think that oral
  ingestion would be good enough and am wondering about nebulizing, sub Q
or
  IM injections, IV's, or simply shooting it up their noses?
 
  Any assistance, experience, ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Happy Howling,
 
  Julie  Critters
  Wolf Creek Ranch
  mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net
  http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html
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CS DISTILLED WATER.

2002-05-10 Thread larry tankersley
This may be of interestOnce again the question of DW leaching
Minerals is being  presented as fact by a very widely read medical Guru
[see Dr. Mercola's [sp] comments. Sure would like to see the studies
backing up point blank statements of FACT!! One of the folks on this
list made the point that the body system is to sophisticated to allow
this to happen...not much chance of knowing without some science or
clinical studies,..even then it's hard to KNOW.. epistemology is
interesting ,I think. Anyway.. if you will. see below.

 Finally, Physical Proof that Distilled Water is Inferior E-mail to a
friend 
Dr. Masaru Emoto, a visionary researcher from Japan received
certification from the Open International University as a Doctor of
Alternative Medicine. Subsequently he was introduced to the concept of
micro cluster water in the US and Magnetic Resonance Analysis
technology. The quest thus began to discover the mystery of water. He
undertook extensive research of water around the planet not so much as a
scientific researcher but more from the perspective of an original
thinker. At length he realized that it was in the frozen crystal form
that water showed us its true nature. 
Distilled WaterWater from a pure source 
Dr Emoto began by studying the crystallization process of water It all
started in 1994 when he took samples of water from various sources,
froze a few droplets, examined them under a dark field microscope and
photographed them. He photographed the crystal formations produced by
water as it passes from liquid into freezing state. It is like taking a
snapshot of the water at that moment in time. He quickly realized that
the crystals that formed from water depended highly on the natural
health of the water. In other words, water from natural springs, healing
water sources etc, formed beautiful and complex crystalline geometries -
like snowflakes. 
Water that had been distilled, polluted or passed through consumption
had lost its inner order. This leads to the realization that natural
healthy water carries an 'inner order' defining its nature and
properties. 
Dr. Masaru EmotoArticle compiled from 3 Web sites: GodsDirectContact.org 
CoCreach Resources
The Spirit of Maat
DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT:
E-mail to a friend 
In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing
technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
diagnostic and therapeutic tool. 
Dr. Lechner shared detailed of his recent meeting with Dr. Emoto and it
became clear that this technology could clearly demonstrate the danger
of distilled water at a clear and easily seen level. Although it is
controversial I am firmly convinced that distilled water is harmful to
your health. 
One of the major foundational reasons is that distilled water is highly
acidic. Most of us are far too acidic already and the last thing we need
to be drinking is a fluid that will make us even more acidic. Distilled
water is alleged to be beneficial due to its lack of contaminants. Well,
many of the devices that distill water are made of metal and will
actually add certain toxic metals like nickel back to the water, which
actually worsens health. 
Since distilled water is like a vacuum without any minerals, it will
actually leach beneficial minerals from your body to balance it out.
While this maybe beneficial for a short period during some sort of
detoxification regimen, this is usually highly counter productive in the
long run. 
Then there is the physics of the water. Water is structured and when it
is distilled the structure becomes profoundly disturbed as you can see
by the pictures above. 
It is possible to restructure the water by putting it in a clear glass
container, adding a few minerals and leaving it out in the sunshine for
a day. This will help to restore the normal beneficial structure that
water should have to promote health. 
I believe it was the Asians who popularized the saying that one picture
is worth a thousand words, so please enjoy the pictures which will help
you appreciate the difference between natural spring water and distilled
water. 
Related Articles: 
Visual Evidence of the Power of Prayer, Gratitude and Appreciation
Return to Table of Contents #322 



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Re: CSbottle for cs

2002-05-10 Thread FHLew
Greetings

 Sylvie wrote:

   If I wanted to use real smoke or blue cobalt bottles, eye dropper...
 ... a terrible tooth abcess and it had to be operated emergently.
 Apparently, it  was quite torture to go through this
ordeal..
... Knowing that ulcers are a  symptom and not a cause, would then
cs
 be useless in treating this ailment?

There is rhythmicity in Colour and Sound. The very colours
themselves are the  effects of photonic vibrations proceeding from the
source of light , the resplendent sun. There is  a true shade  for each and
every colour.  Each colour wave has a mighty potency of a chemical,
electrical or thermal nature.

  Cobalt - blue glass transmits the following colours :

 1. Blue  2. Violet  3. Indigo  4. Green  5. Orange  6. Red
 7. Infra-red

   The nullifying effect of  the cobalt colour  is its
transmission  of
from the hot region which includes infra-red, part of the red and orange in
the prismatic scale. It is quite unsuitable then for a hot,excitable
brain,or for a very sensitive and over-nervous person and  by no means, it
is best for  inflammatory conditions  although  it is excellent for persons
with nervous
anxiety due to the predominance of the other concomitant  electrical
colours.

 Deep Blue Glass, tinted by cupro-diammonium-sulfate or the
cupro-
sulfate of ammonia, which has a rich deep blue colour , is best suited   for
calming  and cooling of nerves  in inflammatory  conditions. This is  not
available as yet. Blue is  a cold, electrical and anti-microbial colour.

 Many experts  today still speak of  the spectral colours  as
being
originally  contained in the light  Such a glamour of Newton's classical
experiment in the prismatic splitting of light into rainbow colours.
However, it is now  known that these colours are the result  of the
interference of the apparatus [ prism ] with light. The prism actually
manufactures the colours
in  light. Glass blocks ultra-violet radiation but not Quartz. Goethe
speculated on the  eye's experience of  colour.Goethe's discovery was
rejected by many scientists who proclaimed that  Goethe
never understood Newton .

Is Argyria ,a bluish grey discolouration of the skin  a manufactured
light effect ? Can a skin biopsy prove it ?


With regards
 Lew

- Original Message -
From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:46 PM
Subject: CSbottle for cs


 I would like to know what is good to keep cs in.

 1. I hear Mason jars are o.k., pop bottles(plastic??) smoke or blue
 bottles...

 2.  If I wanted to use real smoke or blue cobalt bottles, eye dropper...
 Where do I find them in Ontario or Canada. I know I can order on line but
I
 have come across various courier fees that are just rediculous.

 My mother has come to visit me and is returning Friday. I'd like to give
her
 some cs while she is here. She was telling me that one of my brothers had
a
 terrible tooth abcess and it had to be operated emergently. Apparently, it
 was quite torture to go through this ordeal, would having used cs take
care
 of the abcess only by swishing it in the mouth for a while?

 Also, would cs be of any help with stomach ulcers? Knowing that ulcers are
a
 symptom and not a cause, would then cs be useless in treating this
ailment?
 Any input would be quite appreciated

 Sylvie


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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread Noel White
Instead of IV you might try IM === Also you can mix CS with DMSO and
aspply to a heavy vascular area on the animal.

Noel


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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread wolfcreek1
Hi Christiane ~

 Not meaning to make light of a serious subject.okperhaps I
 am. ~:-}  I got quite a chuckle out of the thought of attempting to shoot
 CS up your goats nose...I would say that would take LOADS of
 assistance AND experience.

I would think with a goat who is extremely ill, this wouldn't be too
difficult.  For those of mine who are my hand raised children, it would be
easier than those who have not been raised by me! :-)  Still much easier
than IV, I believe, but when trimming hooves, I chain them to the chainlink
fence to help keep them in one spot.  Since my CAE positive goats are not
showing the wasting and serious signs of CAE, I would need to chain them
to the fence, preferably with the assistance of someone who has weight
enough to help keep them still.  Regardless, as you have experienced with
your daughter, you do what you have to do, within safe limits, to heal.

 My point being, that attacking it from ALL directions
 seemed to be the thing that brought the virus to it's knees and got her
 stablized. In light of my experience in a human, I would suggest getting
it
 in to your goat in as many ways as you canbut
 wouldn't want to be the one to have to try to get it in their
 nose..I thought holding my daughter down was tough! ~:-}

Thank you for this info.  Glad YOU found a way to heal your daughter, even
tho the doctors couldn't.

Hugs, Howls, Health,  Happiness,

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Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread Connie
OUCH!

 From: no...@webtv.net (Noel White)
 
 Instead of IV you might try IM ===
 



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Re: CSbottle for cs

2002-05-10 Thread CKing001
Hey, Lew!
Still with us, are you?
Glad to see you post again.
BTW does a quartz prism give different hues than glass?

Chuck
What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

On Sat, 11 May 2002 05:19:02 +0800, FHLew klini...@tm.net.my wrote:

 Many experts  today still speak of  the spectral colours  as
being
originally  contained in the light  Such a glamour of Newton's classical
experiment in the prismatic splitting of light into rainbow colours.
However, it is now  known that these colours are the result  of the
interference of the apparatus [ prism ] with light. The prism actually
manufactures the colours
in  light. Glass blocks ultra-violet radiation but not Quartz. Goethe
speculated on the  eye's experience of  colour.Goethe's discovery was
rejected by many scientists who proclaimed that  Goethe
never understood Newton .


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CSHerpes in the eyes

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Ed Kasper said,
 Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes
 to treat herpes?

I recently reported the results of a local pharmacist
who had herpes in his eye, used the prescription
medicine but the herpes reoccured, put 4 drops of CS
in his eye, the herpes was gone in one hour.

Check the archives.

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
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Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
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CSFw: CSIntroduction and request for information

2002-05-10 Thread AVRA / Jason
 Hi Neil...

I'd like to know a definative answer to this question as well!

I've seen several accounts, taken from various sources; none of them were
scientific in nature however.

It is likely that 1.5 PPM colloidal silver would result in sufficient
control of microbes in a swimming pool.

One individual used 6 - 8 gallons of assumed 17 PPM colloidal silver (
produced via electrolysis ) to 6500 gallons of water to achieve favorable
results, no chlorine or bromide added...  That's about 1 gallon of CS for
every 1090 gallons of water.  This example, however, only included visual
observations that no algae and fungus existed in the water.

I've seen studies that indicate that .1 PPM, produced in the swimming pool
via electrolysis ( silver and copper electrodes ) has been quite successful.

If I were to undertake a study, I would first bring the total pool water
concentration up to .1 PPM colloidal silver, especially if I had access to a
lab that could analyze the water for microbes.

For some ideas, take a look at this silver ionization system:

http://www.chlorfree.net/whyuse.htm

and their how to use link which employs a unique treatment modality:

http://www.chlorfree.net/howtouse.htm

I thought that their system for chlorine reduction as the silver
concentration slowly increased in the pool was interesting.

If you are able to conclusively demonstrate a minimum concentration level,
I'm sure many of us would greatly appreciate the data!

Chlorine is not one of my favorite substances.

Jason


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CSCH

2002-05-10 Thread Sandra D
Does anyone on this list have Cluster Headaches?  Have you used CS, what
if any, results achieved?

Thanks,
Sandra


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Re: CScs color

2002-05-10 Thread Jack Dayton


5/10/02 12:35 PM sylvie hargraft wrote:

 As for 
 wires, as soon as the gen stops, I wipe the silver wires very well. I do not
 get this nice original shinyness, I assumed it was a result of using them.
 Should I scrub them?? I always meant to ask if it mattered in which holes I
 put them, since they have a different purpose. Can their position be
 reversed(changing hole)? Having the Ole Bob gen. from silverpuppy, what
 could cause to cook too long since it stops on its own?

Hi Silve, I'm sure you will get an answer from Ken, but since i also am
using Ole Bob, and have already asked some of the same questions of Ken,
maybe I can help.

As for wiping the wires - if there is a buildup of fuzzy looking stuff
(technical term) don't hesitate removing the generator during the process
and cleaning that one ( it got gray before it got fuzzy) - then reinstall it
on the jar and continue the process; no harm done.

If you want the wires to be shiny just use the back side of a kitchen
sponge, the scratchy side but don't be too vigorous, you will be
sacrificing silver to get that shine.

Sure you can put the wires in opposite holes from the time before,
they will serve the same purpose in either hole. The wire that gets dark
is called a diode and the other one is referred to as an anode. The current
flows from the anode to the diode, and hopefully silver particles drop off
and into suspension in the process, thereby creating the colloid.

As to what could cause it to cook too long I will say that you must have
very clean DW - the process is slow to start because good DW has a very high
resistance to current flow but this changes as the process continues.

My last 8 oz, batch ran almost 5 hours till it shut down.

Jack


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Re: CSPrill Thin Water

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Roe
Hi Kevin: 

I have since found a web site that more fully explains the technology behind 
Prills.  (75 pages of infoormation including the first chapter of Sheally's 
book) Prills are produced in a kiln at high temperatures. The magnesium oxide 
is part of the ceramic containg the technolody within and is incidental and non 
soluable.  There is a solid state laminar technology within the Prills that 
change the structure of water so that it becomes thinner.  It's qualities are 
different. the pH is higher, the surface tension is lower, it freezes at 34 F, 
not 32, it doesn't expand significantly when frozen (enough so that plants 
hydrated with it when frozen do not suffer cell damage when thawed. It also 
hydrates vegetables in the fridge very significantly - I have never seen 
anything like it before in my life and I've lived a long time. Carrots and 
celery so crunchy and tasty you could dream about them)  The higher PPm 
readings that I got could have been for a number of reasons.  I have since come 
out with much lower readings, not understanding that temperature afffects TDS 
readings.  It is also possible that  TDS is based upon conductivity in normal 
water and that conductivity may be different in this structured water.  At any 
rate, I have no clue as to how this may affect CS production or quality and am 
not sure I want to change a process I am using that works perfectly well.  I 
have the CSprosystem Ultra Pro and produce 2-3 batches per day on an ongoing 
basis.  Conductivity changes would affect the outcome.  The Ultra Pro system is 
based upon starting with water of known structure at room temperature with a 
conductivity of 1.2 microsiemens or less and following through to batch 
completion. If I change the conductivity and the angle between the hydrogen and 
oxygen atoms then the product may be different and of unknown particle size and 
weight.

Anyway, I am sold on Prills for other reasons as well.  Dr. Higgens who has 
been researching water and energy for over 30 years has recently developed an 
RO system that takes water down to 1.5 ppm, strips it of its memory and 
reprograms it.  [He is working on an additional stage where it is put through a 
block of coral calcium and with a device that can take the ORP down to minus 
1400 if needed.] When a friend of mine contacted him about Prills wanting to 
know what they were, Dr.Higgens told him that Prills were in the last stage of 
water reprogramming in his water unit and that he knew Jim Carter. The water 
unit sells for $1000 USD.  Prills cost a great deal less ($70 or less on 
special) and don't wear out.  I already have high gauss magnets on my water 
intake pipes for several years now and they probably help to deprogram the 
water before it comes out my taps.

I recently heard about a river in Norther Ontario that used to be extremely 
polluted and it caused illness.  The pollution has been cleaned up but the 
water still causes illness.  The only explanation is that the water has the 
memory of the previous substances it contained.  Theoretically, you can RO all 
the water you want but the memory of the substances you remove is still in the 
water and although the water tastes better, it can sill have a detrimental 
effect when consumed.  I could not have believed this until I saw pictures in a 
book taken by a Japanese researcher with an MRI at his disposal.  He took 
pictures of frozen water with the MRI from all over the world and good water 
freezes differently than poor water. It forms excellent six sided crystals  
whereas poor water doesn't.  He also showed that water is affected by how we 
speak to it, how it is labeled etc- something people have been saying for years 
but until now, I had never seen scientific proof of it.  Homeopathic solutions 
I think are bottles of water with  memory programed.

Anyway I thought this would be interesting to you.

Ian
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Nolan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: CSPrill Thin Water


  Ian - in what sense do you mean the prills work great? Are you referring 
only to the pH change? If that's all, they are probably quite an expensive way 
to make alkaline water, compared to chucking a little lime in. The main claim 
to fame is 'restructuring':


Re: CSRheumatoid Arthritis Caution on Chondrotin

2002-05-10 Thread Gary Green


On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Marlene Hanson wrote:

Hi All, just read report stating that Chondrotin has been found to 
expedite both prostate and breast cancer in progress. Current Study 
showed Glucosamine and MSN doesn't cause problems with these 
cancers. Marlene  


Glucosamine by itself is very ineffective for treating cartilage 
problems.  You really need to combine the Chondrotin with it.


Where does this information about Chondrotin come from?



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Re: CSCH

2002-05-10 Thread Marshall Dudley
The only remedy I have found for cluster headaches is Hands on healing or
Reiki.  There may be something else that works but I have not found it.

Marshall

Sandra D wrote:

 Does anyone on this list have Cluster Headaches?  Have you used CS, what
 if any, results achieved?

 Thanks,
 Sandra

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Re: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox

2002-05-10 Thread MARIANO DELISE
I agree,  My 75 year old neighbor had shingles over 7 years ago.  The pain
was still quite unbearable.He saw how well I was doing on CS and decided
to give it a try.  He is afraid to take too much so he drinks about 2 oz per
day. (I would be agressive with this problem and drink 16 oz throughout the
day). Even at this small amount, within about three months most of the pain
he had for all these years is gone.
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From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox


 Based on my experience with Herpes Simplex, CS should help any related
viral
 infection.  It has been demonstrated to cure, repeat, cure Hep C.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

  -Original Message-
 From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox

 Yes, from Shingles then Bels Paulsey then i got the chicken pox.  terrible
 horrrible pain etc.  Screaming pain.
  I guess Zostrix is the name on some med Dr   told   me to rub on for pain
 but no go.

 Maxine

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:56 PM
 Subject: Re: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox


 Do you mean herpes zoster?   This is the name commonly applied to the
 shingles, which is a relative of Chicken Pox.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox
 
 
  If you get exposed to  Chicken Pox and get Shingles and or chicken Pox
  that is called the Zostix Virus  or a form of herpes Virus but not the
 kind
  that is the bad Herpes.
  . That virus attacks the  nerve  on one side of the body. If in the
face
 is
  sometimes real bad.
   I have found a herbalist who will be giving me some Herbs  mad into a
 tea
  that will KILL this virus.  If some one wants to talk to him Let me
know
 I
  will send the ph # to call him. He lives in Wa state close to where I
 live.
  Maxine
  mm...@sprynet.com
 
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  From: Noel White no...@webtv.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CSBOB, CSChicken Pox
 
 
  What is Zostrix virus? I know of herpes Zooster.
 
  Noel
 
 
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Re: CSPrill Restructured Water

2002-05-10 Thread Neilinthegarden
In a message dated 5/10/2002 5:38:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
ian_onta...@hotmail.com writes:


 Hi Kevin: 
  
 I have since found a web site that more fully explains the technology 
 behind Prills.  (75 pages of information including the first chapter of 
 Shealy's book)

Dear Ian,
Could you give us the URL to this website, please?
 
  The water unit sells for $1000 USD.  Prills cost a great deal less ($70 
 or less on special) and don't wear out.

When you order directly from Twilight the Prills cost $50.00 for one  (or, as 
a limited-time special, $100.00 for 10).  If any of you want the price list 
and order forms for Twilight, just email me off-list and I will send it to 
you  (neilinthegar...@aol.com).  Alternatively, if there are 10 of you who 
want to get a bag of Prills beads and try the Prills water for yourselves, I 
will be happy to order the ten for $100.00 and mail them to you for $15.00  
($5.00 for shipping and handling) and you can try it out.  The Prills water 
tastes very smooth and satisfying to me, and gives me lots of energy.   
Again, just email me off-list and we'll see if we get close to ten takers.
 
 I already have high gauss magnets on my water intake pipes for several 
years now 
 and they probably help to deprogram the water before it comes out my taps.

I have rare earth magnets on my water intake pipes, too.  The magnetized 
water makes my garden SHOOT up and bloom like crazy.

Sincerely,
Neil



Re: CSResearching CS to cure an incurable animal virus

2002-05-10 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Fri, 10 May 2002 12:30:36 -0600, James Osbourne, Holmes
a...@cybermesa.com wrote:

A lot of antibiotics had been unsuccessfully given. It may take me a while
make a space to talk with the  owner of the horse.

I'm not even conversant with goats ( don't know the language :), but
it seems to me that if antibiotics have been used on the goats (I'm
assuming orally), then using CS shouldn't have any greater negative
effect on the goats' digestion.

IOW, I'd certainly try CS and reintroduce whatever kind of bacteria is
needed for digestion.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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