Re: CSCS resistency

2003-04-07 Thread Tony Moody

Dear Maia,
This list has discussed why CS doesn't work and it seems quite well 
established that CS does not work if it can not get to the offending 
organism. It seems that if the organism is covered in a layer of fat or 
mucous or if the area is fairly dry then there is less chance of CS working. 
So whatever could be used to cut through the mucous and carry the soluton to 
the pseudomonas may work.


DMSO may overcome these barriers. I have had excellent success using very 
small amounts of DMSO. In the order of a drop per cup of CS, or CS and H2O2. 
The ghastly smell is replaced with delightful woody aromas which change 
constantly.

Tony

Maja Hristozova wrote:

You would be surprised Cystic Fibrosis people have
tried many things...




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Re: CSBlood Types

2003-04-07 Thread Robb Allen
Hi..I agree with you about most thingsbut I keep having problems
with yeast when I go on heavy doses of CS.if it wasn't for that I'd
probably be ok I'm not sure what to do about the yeast..and
I'm also not sure that the yeast aren't the whole problem by
themselvesI think I disagree with the H202 mixture though..I had
tests done at OSU and it does create almost 100% ionic silver...however it
doesn't seem to be as effective for me when I take it..Robb
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: CSBlood Types


 Robb,
 This is, as we all know, a list about CS.  It is my opinion that CS
will
 take care of most of the diseases mentioned earlier as possible ailments.
 Most of these mentioned are auto immunine diseases.  I have found with my
MS
 that I had to be aggressive with the CS.  I drink 16 oz. 10 ppm per day
with
 8 drops of H2o2 added to it.  I drink a little at a time, all day long.
 This protocol  cured not only my MS, but also at least 50 more MS patients
 are at various stages of getting better.  I have also recommended this
very
 same protocol to two people with lupus, two people with crones, two with
 fibromyalgia, one with singles, two with rheumatoid arthritis.  Each and
 every one of the above people have improved greatly.  I tell them all it
is
 a slow, SUBTLE process.  Often they get what I call a healing crisis
where
 they actually seem to get worse, but actually the responsible  mycoplasma
is
 dying off, and in from one day to four or five days, they will feel much
 better.  It takes patience, but the CS will win if you give it a chance.
 Nancy
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Re: CSperfect CS possible questions

2003-04-07 Thread Tony Moody
Uhh, Ingrid, maybe we are waiting to see if you come up with something 
useful. Or maybe we are waitng for you to find out yourself. You have 
obviously put a lot of effort into it so far , and I appreciate your telling 
us about it.


Suggest that you add the minerals after you have made the CS.
OK,
Tony

INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:
 
to find what the ionic mineral water contains go to 
www.sunstoneherbals.com http://www.sunstoneherbals.com under the 
heading ionic minerals. look for  water of life and click the picture it 
will give you a list of minerals.
 
why i did not receive any info about ionic minerals I do not know. was 
it due to lack of knowledge on the subject or did it seem to be off topic??
 
A  PERCEPTION essential to understanding.
 
but thanx for all the info and help so far. you guys R the greatest.




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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
A fascinating theory by the brilliant Y. Omura, MD, is that the presence
of heavy metals in the brain provides, in effect, a protected breeding
grounds for pathogens.  The diversity of these is remarkable -- herpes,
tuberculosis, and many others.  See the links I have posted previously. 
 Omura believes that these metals can be readily removed by cilantro,
using various techniques to stimpulate uptake of the herb and also the
EPA/DHA fish oil used to destroy bacteria and viruses.  

Omura also uses antibiotics in some cases.  His work is not well-enough
known,  and in my opinion will require the inquires of an informed
public to make any headway.  In sort, people will need to demand use of
his methods in place of other methods. 

JBB



Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
 It is fact that the brains of alzheimers patients have an elevated level of 
 aluminum
 in them.  It is unclear whether aluminum in the brain causes alheimzers, or 
 if the
 disease causes accumulation of aluminum in the brain.  Also it is unclear how 
 the
 aluminum gets in the brain, since I believe it is suppose to be stopped by 
 the blood
 brain barrier. Since there is a great deal of aluminum and aluminum compounds 
 around
 us and in the soil, there is likely some other unidentified mechanism at work.
 
 One of the latest things I read was that it could actually be caused by a 
 prion.
 
 Marshall
 
 Jack Dayton wrote:
 
   In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not 
   aware
   of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain 
   barrier.
  
   Marshall
  **
 
  Many years ago, before desk top computers,
  I read an article condemning aluminum as a
  possible cause of Alzheimers - I have never
  used an antiperspirant since --
  even if that were not true, think of the
  money I have saved. :-)
 
  Jack
 
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Re: CSNew to list

2003-04-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
R.e. acidophilus, a recent newsletter (134) from Altered States company
in NZ indicates that CS may actually PROMOTE the growth of beneficial
flora in the intestines.  I do not have time to follow up on the claim; 
the newsletter has some references included.   List members can go to
the site and request the newsletter.  I did not forward it because it
comes in a format that takes up a lot fo space -- elaborate moving
graphics and all that rubbish.   

Ask and they will send. 

JBB



Bill Missett wrote:
 
 Welcome to the list.  Hope this helps fill in the info-gap:
 
 I've had excellent results with killing and controlling amoebas and other
 parasites, and live in an area (Southern Mexico) where they are common food
 contaminants, as well as salmonella, e.coli, and others (bad shrimp, bay
 oysters, etc.)
 
 I've killed all of the above with CS, a potent variety sold OTC all over
 Mexico, in industrial strength dosages for extended periods of time, with no
 adverse intestinal conditions.  (Certainly not as bad as the conditions the
 CS is preventing, anyway. A little acididolphilus never hurts either.)
 
 As to whether CS will kill the amoeba cysts themselves, I am uncertain, but
 I would suspect the answer is yes.  It will kill all amoebas as they hatch,
 breaking the cycle they create in your body.
 
 I have been so effective in control of these intestinal parasites, through
 daily doses of CS, that I have not suffered a single incident in five years,
 nor have I had a single case of dengue fever during that same time, which I
 used to get about 2-3 times a year.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS] lkwet...@iastate.edu
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 PM
 Subject: CSNew to list
 
  Hello,
  I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey
 with entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last
 year. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but
 ignored), adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was
 treated for the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which
 was a disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid
 therapy and not getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So,
 the flagyl just about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite
 ignorant doctor after I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and
 brought him the results and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to
 handle 10 days of Flagyl at 750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that
 time, I got a new out of state thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low
 dose cortef. Over the next few months, my health improved greatly, except
 that I still had the bug. !
  I visited a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba.
 He ran blood tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more
 knowledgeable informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether
 I did or didn't still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I
 still had it because I knew I was not right.
 
  Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and
 other soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts
 of infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I
 live in an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown
 by doctors and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get
 help from any local or statewide doc and there was only one other approved
 medication available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug
 that would get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I
 decided to order Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US
 because the drug companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the
 amoeba and cysts in just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick
 people. It must be followed with another antibiotic (paromomycin,
 Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 days in order to take care of the
 remaining cysts. I was n!
  ot able to get any of these others. So, I happened on a product called
 Silver  Clove, which contains colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill
 amoeba) and a few other things. I used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited
 for the tinidazole to arrive and I had pretty good results. Then after
 taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver  Clove for over a week. Now,
 I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation alone on the second week
 after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts or I will be very
 unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not keen at all on
 doing it again.
 
  So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is
 at killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to
 healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish
 

Re: CSlung diseases fibrosis, asthma, COPD etc....

2003-04-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
R.e. whey protein,  I am looking for a cheap source.  I get Weider brand
at Costco in Japan for about US $32 bucks per 820 grams.   If any
vendors on this list have a first-rate source of lower-cost whey
protein, I would be most interested in being contacted off list.   

Duncan Crows page on this was very enlightening and I recommend it.   

JBB



C Creel wrote:
 
 Dear Duncan,
 
   You said:
 
 Did the cystic fibrosis treatement program address the control of
 oxidative stress?  I ask because there are hundreds of articles pointing
 out the culprit in lung disorders as being chronic oxidative stress
 (lipid peroxidation). This can be stopped cold with cold-processed whey
 and selenium, and an antioxidant program.
 http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html
 Here's just one study chosen at random so you'll see what I mean.
 
 The mucus and inflammation and most of the scar tissue is produced by
 irritation from whatever sourse and propagated by free radical damage.
 Glutathione increase (requires selenium) stops all that and also reduces
 the Th2 inflammatory cell count on favour of non-inflammatory, reduced
 damage, Th1. But since all the antioxidants work together I recommend a
 program of them to my clients.
 
 __
 Monaldi Arch Chest Dis 2002 Jun-Aug;57(3-4):173-6 Related Articles, Links
 
 Role of oxidative stress in pulmonary fibrosis.
 
 Cystic Fibrosis is a genetic disease caused by mutations in the CFTR gene.
 It that causes the body to produce an abnormally thick, sticky mucus, due to
 the faulty transport of sodium and chloride within cells lining organs such
 as the lungs and pancreas, to their outer surfaces. The thick CF mucus also
 obstructs the pancreas, preventing enzymes from reaching the intestines to
 help break down and digest food.  This is different from pulmonary fibrosis.
 
   Certainly, your recommendation of better nutrition and a good antioxidant
 from program would help in reducing the infections two which people are
 prone when they have CF.  It's a great suggestion.
 But all the Immunocal and antioxidants in the world will not change the
 genetic mutation that causes CF.
 
 Regards,
 Catherine
 
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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Ode Coyote


  The reason that using 6 volts works so well but takes longer that 27 
volts is that the lower voltage draws less current.
 If you use a constant current generator, it lowers the voltage for you 
automatically as the process goes.
 Essentially, as the CS gets stronger, the voltage gets weaker and 
releases ions at a constant [preferably slow] rate.
 The major keys to making small particle CS is controlled current taylored 
to your specific electrode surface area and spacing...and even distribution 
of the ions as they are released. [stirring]


 A silver coin will sit in plain water for centuries virtually 
unchanged.  Why would drinking that water do anything?


AC [alternating current] means that the electricity reverses polarity at 
some frequency...60 times per second in America, 50 times per second in Europe.

 DC [direct current] does not change polarity.

 AC and DC are two different animals like a zebra and a mule that both 
look like horses...no equivalency to chart other than they both can pull a 
plow.


Other than variations in dissolved gasses due to atmospheric conditions, 
water is still H2O just like it was for the Egyptions.  Hydrogen and oxygen 
haven't changed.
 It  was  probably a global weather shift that made the desert, though 
over grazing has fairly recently expanded it.
 That area is still pretty much like it was for the old Egyptians. They 
didn't create that desert.

 That's not to say that people can't make a desert.

Something major happened world wide about 15,000 - 20,000 years ago. It 
might have been people related.  Possibly a big nuke war. Not so much too 
many people, just some very mean ones.

 Or it could have been a meteor strike.

ken

At 11:07 PM 4/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:


  friends,

the person who introduced me to the great world of CS told me that ,I 
think it was the Egyptians, would put a silver coin in a container of 
water and just  let it sit until they got sick one day and drank it and 
within a day would be healed of anything that ailed them. so my theory is 
by us hastening the process due to being the impatient creatures we are, 
we don't allow nature to take its course for a proper silver colloid.


by the Egyptians just letting the silver dollar sit ,w/o interference the 
silver atoms disintegrated at a much slower place which gave it the time 
to create the current in the water then break off at it's own course. but 
when we make CS in a mechanical process and not in the natural we don't 
get the most desired and most perfect silver colloid. so we must 
experiment with it a little to replicate what would naturally occur. in 
that article where that guy used an oxygen pump and a 6 (volt?) DC 
converter to make CS he made an astounding discovery. LESS IS BETTER. but 
because of our lifestyles and conditioning we are used to wanting the 
bigger, better, faster things in life. for example a modem is not good 
enough we want the cable modem and etc. back to the theory...


 first by him adding oxygen to the water it was a closer model to the 
Egyptians water which makes for a better current. there water was all 
natural no processing no chemicals and etc. as the water boy Adam Sandler 
puts it  now that's some high quality H2O.


 then by using a low electrical method for a slower process closer to the 
Egyptians product, to produce the CS it probably makes it the closest 
we've come to the purest most perfect CS ever produced... yet. haha.


 also if my information is correct which I believe it is coming from a 
strong environmentalist with some backyard science back round. all the 
deserts in the far east such as Egypt were rainforests but due to human 
interference every last tree was cut down turning the rain forests of 
Egypt to a hot, baron, dry, sandy useless waste of land. i assume taking 
a large factory of oxygen away from the world. decreasing conversion of 
carbon dioxide to oxygen making it harder for the rest of the trees to 
deal with the booming rate of the worlds population increase which causes 
more carbon dioxide to be manufactured with less oxygen manufacturers 
causes a lesser purity of the air we breath which happens to be a key 
part to the water we use to make CS.


the whole point of the rain forest story is because to have what the 
Egyptians HAD I want every aspect of my experiment to be as identical to 
the Egyptians time frame, environment and so on.


now I plan to do a little experiment of my own using this guys method but 
due to limited resources the product won't be what I really want, but 
close for now...


I need a little input from my fellow friends on the silver list. is there 
a conversion table to AC and DC? ( like there is with Fahrenheit and 
Celsius) if so can you refer me to a website or give me the mathematical 
conversion?  the experiment procedure will follow in the next E-mail.


thanx in advance.



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Re: CSMaking CS

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
It will control fungus.  That can be a plus. It also can kill the
bacteria that product nutrients the plant may need, that would be a
minus, especially if you are trying to grow any legumes, or are
fertilizing with an organic fertilizer.

Marshall

barnb...@aol.com wrote:

 Excellent description of a very simple c/s generator. I applaud you.
 Iknow about cut flowers, however, I intend to plant some veggies this
 years in packaged growth boxes. My soil in in poor shape and I'm too
 old and decrepit to dig a garden anyway. I intend to add about 3 or 4
 ounces c/s to the water supply to each box. Will this have any effect
 on the plants?Thank you  UFOS


Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
CS makes an excellent deoderant.  But don't confuse it with an
antiprespirant.  They are not the same thing.  If you have underarm BO,
CS will knock it out in about 5 seconds. But if you put it on, then
sweat it off, it will do no good at all.

Marshall

INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:

 NOT! I READ THAT ARTICLE ABOUT THE MANY USES OF CS. well i don't know
 about deodorant. i used CS with a ppm of probably somewhere between
 8-12 and it didn't quite work like expected. maybe more or less ppm
 will help. i figure with summer around the corner i don't want to
 expirament with B.O.





Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley


Jim wrote:

 Don't forget that there is aluminum in deodorant and aluminum is very toxic.

In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not aware
of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain barrier.

Marshall



 Jim

 Linda Hefferman wrote:
  Hi Ingrid.  I just read your comment about cs and deodorant.  Such has
  not been the case for me.  I am not sure what ppm I am making but it is
  clear and i do ingest about 2ounces a day and also use it as a
  deodorant.  For me it is great---absolutely no more bo.  I have not used
  deodorant since I have discovered it.  I have read that since deodorant
  blocks your sweat gland under your arms that it causes toxins to build
  up in the lymph nodes and it is believed to cause cancer.  Since cancer
  runs in my family I want to avoid that if I can.  Sorry to hear that
  yours did not work for you,  Hopefully someone out there may know the
  answer as to why yours did not work.
 
   Linda J. Hefferman
 
   INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com wrote:
 
  NOT! I READ THAT ARTICLE ABOUT THE MANY USES OF CS. well i don't
  know about deodorant. i used CS with a ppm of probably somewhere
  between 8-12 and it didn't quite work like expected. maybe more or
  less ppm will help. i figure with summer around the corner i don't
  want to expirament with B.O.
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: CSCandida anti-inflammatory

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Also as far as I know, it is the only thing other than CS that also kills
viruses.  If I am really worried about catching something bad I have been
exposed to, I will supplement my CS with olive leaf extract.

Marshall

bonnie schmidlkofer wrote:

 ...could you list anti inflammatory herbs??..I'm all
  ears for those 

 I've had success with olive leaf powder (also called olive leaf extract)
 which is anti-inflammatory and as a bonus, kills fungi and bacteria in the
 body.  It is a wonderful complement to cs usage, both internally and
 topically.  Any health food store should carry it.

 Bonnie

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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't believe there is any conclusive evidence that it can cause
cancer, but then again the research could have been easily covered up by
the fda like so much other stuff.

The threory on it is that the body uses the sweat glands to expell
toxins. If you stop up the exit point, then the toxins will instead be
stored in the tissues of the breast, causing cancer.

It has nothing to to with aluminum directly, the theory would hold even
if you used tar or glue.

Marshall

INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:

 antiperspirant clogs the pores so you can't sweat which eliminates
 B.O. but it causes cancer by doing this. i guess it's the aluminum in
 the antiperspirant that is what causes cancer.

  - Original Message -
  From: Jim
  Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:10 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSdeodorant effective or not
   Your right Jack, I usually look at them as the same thing
  since it is
  usually sold that way.

  Jim

  Jack Dayton wrote:
  Don't forget that there is aluminum in deodorant and
  aluminum is very toxic.
  
  Jim
  
   
   Jim, I think you might mean that there is aluminum
   in antiperspirant, I don't think deoderant has it.
  
   Jack
  
  
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Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Normally with msm and cs one uses a saturated solution. It may be different for
the eyes, but I believe that is correct in general.

Marshall

Lynda Khula wrote:

 nothing to do with this, was looking in the letters in the archive and saw
 that a mixture of msm and cs can be used for cataracts can someone please
 tell me how much msm in the cs
 thanks
 Lynda

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 From: Michael Mahoney mmaho...@eoni.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts

  Henry Holland Simms wrote:
  
   DMSO will 'carry 'anything' into the body and is almost as effective as
   IV.
 
  (snip)
 
 
  The above misconception crops up fairly often so I will once again
  post information from Dr. Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long
  time user of DMSO.
 
  ... You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a molecular weight
  of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus is one million.
  A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
  It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.
 
 
  You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
  made this statement at:
 
  http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.
 
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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Jim
I've read studies a few years ago where some believe that the aluminum 
being absorbed through the skin may be the cause of breast cancer, the 
study went on to show why more women get breast cancer than men, because 
they shave their underarms and this makes it easier for the aluminum 
oxide to seep through the skin.  Don't they call it aluminum oxide 
poisoning?   I'm just going on what I've read a few years back, and it 
made sense, there could be another side to that argument that I'm not 
aware of.


I do know that like lead, aluminum shouldn't be ingested, and that is 
why people are getting rid of their aluminum pots and pans.  Put a sheet 
of aluminum foil over any tomato based sauce so that it actually touches 
the sauce, the next morning the aluminum foil will have holes in it and 
the aluminum will be deposited on the sauce.


 I got this info a few years ago, I had a customer that ran a very 
large meals on wheels program in Maine  NH.  His company wouldn't allow 
cooking in aluminum pots, because the aluminum would get into the food, 
he ended up buying Stainless Steel pots from me, which was a one time 
sale, the aluminum pots had to  be replaced regularly due to pitting 
when an acidic product was cooked.  I obviously preferred to sell the 
replaceable aluminum ones.


Jim

Marshall Dudley wrote:


Jim wrote:



Don't forget that there is aluminum in deodorant and aluminum is very toxic.



In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not aware
of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain barrier.

Marshall




Jim

Linda Hefferman wrote:


Hi Ingrid.  I just read your comment about cs and deodorant.  Such has
not been the case for me.  I am not sure what ppm I am making but it is
clear and i do ingest about 2ounces a day and also use it as a
deodorant.  For me it is great---absolutely no more bo.  I have not used
deodorant since I have discovered it.  I have read that since deodorant
blocks your sweat gland under your arms that it causes toxins to build
up in the lymph nodes and it is believed to cause cancer.  Since cancer
runs in my family I want to avoid that if I can.  Sorry to hear that
yours did not work for you,  Hopefully someone out there may know the
answer as to why yours did not work.

Linda J. Hefferman

INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com wrote:

   NOT! I READ THAT ARTICLE ABOUT THE MANY USES OF CS. well i don't
   know about deodorant. i used CS with a ppm of probably somewhere
   between 8-12 and it didn't quite work like expected. maybe more or
   less ppm will help. i figure with summer around the corner i don't
   want to expirament with B.O.






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Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts

2003-04-07 Thread Charles Sutton
Does anyone know the molecular weight of the anti-biotics that DMSO carries
into the blood stream??

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Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts


 Henry Holland Simms wrote:
 
  DMSO will 'carry 'anything' into the body and is almost as effective as
  IV.

 (snip)


 The above misconception crops up fairly often so I will once again
 post information from Dr. Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long
 time user of DMSO.

 ... You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a molecular weight
 of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus is one million.
 A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
 It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.


 You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
 made this statement at:

 http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.

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CSInteresting article on SARS

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://www.greatdreams.com/sars.htm

Marshall


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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread John Osowiecki
Brilliant analogy, Ken!  Much enjoyed!  Thanks.  ~:-}


   AC and DC are two different animals like a zebra and a mule that both
 look like horses...no equivalency to chart other than they both can pull a
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Re: CSCS resistency

2003-04-07 Thread Solar

TM DMSO may overcome these barriers. I have had excellent success using very 
TM small amounts of DMSO. In the order of a drop per cup of CS, or CS and 
H2O2. 
TM The ghastly smell is replaced with delightful woody aromas which change 
TM constantly.
TM Tony

Egads! I just put 4 drops of DMSO into 3 or 4 ounces of CS for use as
a mouthwash. Being my first experience with it, I was amazed at the
obnoxious odor coming from the DMSO bottle. I may have to use less in
the future, as it is imparting a slight, SLIGHT taste to the CS.
Reminds me of what it must be like chewing on a bicycle innertube. I
was going to ask if it was supposed to smell so powerful straight
from the bottle, but I guess that is its nature.


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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Robert Berger
Greetings CS'ers,

Now about silver in water. I have reported several times on this list of my
personal experience with silver in water so here is it again..

While living in Honduras I took a sample of our off the mountain unprocessed
drinking water to our research laboratory to run a silver effectiveness study. 
Dr.
wArren our research pathologist have 12 petri dishes prepared with beef broth,
peptone and augar prepare for me.

The sample was divide into three parts:
1. untreated and a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution series were streaked on to one 
set
of the petri dishes.

2. Sample #2 was stirred with a silver rod for about one minute and then a 
similar
dilution series were made.

3. Sample #3 was stirred with two silver wires connected to the ends of a 
standard
D battery, then a third series was made.

After 24 hours of incubation the results were as follows:

#1 even the 1000 to 1 sample was covered with bacteria colonies.

#2 the 1000 to 1 was clean and the 100 to 1 had a few colonies.

#3 none of the samples had any colonies!!!

Now for some Americana. Check your history when the pioneers crossed the west in
covered wagons every milk bucket and water bucket had a silver dollar in then to
keep the milk and water clean!!!

Do you home work.


Ole Bob




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CSlung diseases fibrosis, asthma, COPD etc....

2003-04-07 Thread Duncan Crow
Did the cystic fibrosis treatement program address the control of 
oxidative stress?  I ask because there are hundreds of articles pointing 
out the culprit in lung disorders as being chronic oxidative stress 
(lipid peroxidation). This can be stopped cold with cold-processed whey 
and selenium, and an antioxidant program.
http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html
Here's just one study chosen at random so you'll see what I mean.

The mucus and inflammation and most of the scar tissue is produced by 
irritation from whatever sourse and propagated by free radical damage. 
Glutathione increase (requires selenium) stops all that and also reduces 
the Th2 inflammatory cell count on favour of non-inflammatory, reduced 
damage, Th1. But since all the antioxidants work together I recommend a 
program of them to my clients.

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Monaldi Arch Chest Dis 2002 Jun-Aug;57(3-4):173-6 Related Articles, Links 
 
Role of oxidative stress in pulmonary fibrosis.

Mastruzzo C, Crimi N, Vancheri C.

Dipartimento di Medicina Interna e Medicina Specialistica, Sezione di 
Malattie Respiratorie, Universita di Catania, via Passo Gravina 187, I-
95125 Catania, Italy.

Pulmonary fibrosis can be observed as an end state in a number of chronic 
inflammatory pulmonary diseases. Although the mechanisms by which lung 
fibrosis develops are not fully ascertained, recent findings suggest that 
oxidative stress may play an important role in the pathogenesis of tissue 
fibrosis affecting apoptosis of both structural and inflammatory cells 
and altering the cytokine microenvironment balance. Damage and alteration 
of alveolar epithelial cells is one of the hallmarks of interstitial lung 
fibrosis. Recently, it has been demonstrated that the presence of 
oxidative stress may lead to the damage, activation and/or apoptosis of 
alveolar epithelial cells either directly, through an imbalanced 
intracellular redox equilibrium, or indirectly, by activating redox-
sensitive effector pathways, such as transcription factors and 
angiotensin converting enzyme, increasing the conversion of 
angiotensinogen into angiotensin II that can be considered a mediator of 
oxidative stress, capable of inducing apoptosis. Furthermore, it has been 
demonstrated that angiotensin II acts as a proinflammatory cytokine and 
is effective in activating fibroblasts through the release of 
transforming growth factor (TGF-beta). As well as activation, 
differentiation, proliferation and apoptosis of fibroblasts seem related 
to the oxidant/antioxidant balance, and the maintenance of a high 
intracellular level of reduced glutathione (GSH) is considered crucial in 
providing a reducing environment within the cell, able to protect against 
oxidative stress. In those conditions where oxidants, either inhaled or 
produced by inflammatory cell, increase, the ratio between GSH and 
oxidized glutathione (GSSH) may lower, influencing a variety of cellular 
redox-sensitive signaling processes such as the activation of nuclear 
factor-kB (NF-kB) and activator protein-1 (AP-1) that lead to a 
transcriptional up-regulation of a number of genes involved in 
inflammation and/or fibrogenesis, including cytokines [interleukin (IL)-
1,, tumor necrosis factor (TNF-alpha), IL-6] chemokines (IL-8), adhesion 
molecules (VCAM-1, ICAM-1) and growth factors (GM-CSF). In addition, 
several studies have shown that oxidative stress may also affect the 
immune response by inducing an up-regulation of HLA-DR as well as the 
expression of two costimulatory molecules such as CD40 and CD86, 
determining a persistent state of immune activation, and affecting the 
Th1/Th2 balance, modulating the T-cell effector response towards the Th2 
phenotype. It is clear that a better understanding of the precise 
sequence of events that make the difference between normal tissue repair 
and fibrosis, including the role played by oxidative stress, will 
certainly improve our therapeutic approach to pulmonary fibrosis.
___
 You would be surprised Cystic Fibrosis people have
 tried many things...
 One mother tried DMSO on the sputum of her Cystic
 Fibrosis son. It tickens the mucus though and she
 never tried using with on the son. Tick mucus is
 killing for them. I assume it's because their mucus
 has a different structure. They have much more salt in
 the sweat, etc. 


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Re: CSOT garden mulching

2003-04-07 Thread Dan Nave
I wouldn't recommend old carpet for gardening.  
Carpet tends to collect things in it over the years like lead, pesticides, 
whatever was on one's feet.  

Old carpet is often high in toxic waste...

CSOT garden mulching
From: llarabie (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 05:49:01 



If you had been lucky to get the nylon type backing those last and last
because they don't fall apart.  Check next time when they are re-doing
commercial places as they are the ones that use them more.

There is also other mulching you can use check
www.raw-connections.com/garden (Gift from my son to help me make this
informative site :o)
Nice for beginners and kid site, for general instructions on making an easy
garden,  Check the hay bale garden for the easiest raised bed garden.

Louise

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]

Sent: April 6, 2003 7:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMaking CS


   A bit off topic here, but the easiest and best garden I ever planted was
done by simply rolling out some old used jute backed carpet [stolen from
curb side pickup and carpet store dumpsters]  on top of the grass in the
yard, cutting some holes in it and transplanting containerized plants in it.
  No weeds, no tilling, no water run off, [water runs right throught the
carpet carrying any fertilizer laid on top with it], bugs and snails don't
like the carpet, no rust from soil borne viruses and fruits don't lie on
the ground.
  The grass dies from lack of light and fertilizes the garden. The decaying
grass roots soften the soil.

  One drawback.
  After about 4 years the carpet disintigrates and can be a bit hard to
roll up and dispose of. [It would have been ..had been...disposed of anyway]
Ken


Re: CSBlood Types (Coffee)

2003-04-07 Thread Dan Nave
I had to stop drinking coffee as I found that it caused aching joint pain 
especially in my hands and lower back across the back esp at the top edge of 
the hip bone.   I had to stay off of it completely for about 3 weeks before I 
could notice the difference.  Then drinking a strong coffee or two caused major 
pain the next day.  


Re: CSBlood Types
From: Kit (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 06:03:00 




Believe it or not, there's actually a coffee specifically blended and
roasted for enemas:

http://www.sawilsons.com/


I have some that I am going to use soon.the way it smells (stinks)
ya can hardly believe it's coffee!Have you used it?Kit 


CSCS and H2o2

2003-04-07 Thread Shirley Reed
   Dear list members:   I accidentally left my Beck silver pulser running too 
long while making a quart of cs.  Lots too long.  Quite a gold color.  I am now 
adding peroxide to it to see if I can get a clear color.  Question is Will this 
brew be suitable for internal ingestion even if it does turn clear?  Or should 
I relegate it to the external use only jar?  Thanks.  pjps  I had used 
boiling distilled water at the beginning of the process.  Maybe I should just 
throw it out?  


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Re: CSlung diseases fibrosis, asthma, COPD etc....

2003-04-07 Thread C Creel
Dear Duncan,


  You said:


Did the cystic fibrosis treatement program address the control of
oxidative stress?  I ask because there are hundreds of articles pointing
out the culprit in lung disorders as being chronic oxidative stress
(lipid peroxidation). This can be stopped cold with cold-processed whey
and selenium, and an antioxidant program.
http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html
Here's just one study chosen at random so you'll see what I mean.

The mucus and inflammation and most of the scar tissue is produced by
irritation from whatever sourse and propagated by free radical damage.
Glutathione increase (requires selenium) stops all that and also reduces
the Th2 inflammatory cell count on favour of non-inflammatory, reduced
damage, Th1. But since all the antioxidants work together I recommend a
program of them to my clients.

__
Monaldi Arch Chest Dis 2002 Jun-Aug;57(3-4):173-6 Related Articles, Links

Role of oxidative stress in pulmonary fibrosis.




Cystic Fibrosis is a genetic disease caused by mutations in the CFTR gene.
It that causes the body to produce an abnormally thick, sticky mucus, due to
the faulty transport of sodium and chloride within cells lining organs such
as the lungs and pancreas, to their outer surfaces. The thick CF mucus also
obstructs the pancreas, preventing enzymes from reaching the intestines to
help break down and digest food.  This is different from pulmonary fibrosis.

  Certainly, your recommendation of better nutrition and a good antioxidant
from program would help in reducing the infections two which people are
prone when they have CF.  It's a great suggestion.
But all the Immunocal and antioxidants in the world will not change the
genetic mutation that causes CF.

Regards,
Catherine



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Re: CSpurest ever cont'd. experiment

2003-04-07 Thread Tony Moody

Hi Ingrid,
DC Direct current is what flows from a battery, sort of like a steady, 
constant stream of water from a hose.
AC Altenating current is what emerges from the house wiring and is more like 
water from a piston pump. There is a steady but pulsing nature to it. You 
might notice things like fluorescent lamps humming caused by ac.


Current flows, and is measured in amperes, (amps) Sort of like buckets per 
minute


Voltage exists, and is analagous to pressure, which has the potential to push.

There is a relationship between ac volts and dc volts and it is how they 
relate to each other in terms of effective 'pressure'. An ac voltmeter 
measures the peak to peak voltage and automatically multiplies the answer by 
0.707 to display the equivalent dc voltage.
Your house power of 110 volts ac has a peak to peak of about 155v but is 
equivalent to battery voltage of 110v dc

OK.
Tony





INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:
 
 


just for the record: this whole theory is JUST a theory

but maybe it could be onto something. cross your fingers. perfect CS
here I come!

just a note to add to my theory... the rain forest story I forgot to
put down that I want to experiment ,in the later experiments when I
have the proper equipment, to maintain a mean temp. of a rain
forest of the Egyptian time frame IF the during the time frame of
the Egyptian CS it was STILL a rain forest. and not a desert all
ready, theoretically. or vice versa.

I will use both temperatures. a desert temp and a rainforest and
just because it seems like a good idea an average temperature of the
two. then i will also make CS at the temp. of 33 degrees Fahrenheit
because as my research began waters most powerful life
force/energy is just before freezing, hence 33 degrees. then I will
do a mean temp of the three temperatures. because it just sounds
like a good idea.  


 in my CS generator I plan to use only 1 9 volt battery hooked up
to two . silver electrodes in about 8 oz of high quality H2O
mailto:h...@o possibly found. (distilled) if i could make my own
water it would be even better but i can't but i have heard that
combining hydrogen and oxygen in a container than igniting the two
creates water. but that's just here-say.

then when I find out the conversion for AC to DC and vice versa to
use the one with the lowest electrical current that way it has a
lesser if any interaction with any natural magnetic fields created
by gravity and so on and so forth. so that nature can set and find
its own course for it's perfect current to begin the process of
making the perfect silver colloid.

then from these tests I plan to use a mineral water known as miracle
of life which is an ionic mineral. you may remember me asking for
info on ionic minerals. (side note: NONE RECIEVED)

you may ask your self why would a person use an ionic mineral water
to make CS when it has already been strongly suggested to use
de-mineralized water or distilled water. well lets face us humans
aren't perfect we make mistakes and we're wrong sometimes.
plus going with the possibility that the desert was never a
rainforest but a mere desert the whole time I know from the history
books assuming there correct that the Nile was a source of water
also after every flood left very very very fertile soil = high in
minerals. so if that's the water type they had then I want it!!

i would like to do all of the temp.'s in ionic mineral water but at
$1.20 an OZ I have neither the money nor the proper  instruments to
conduct such an experiment.

so far that is pretty much the just of it. if any one wants to
conduct these experiments on there own along side of me. feel free.
should you happen to make a major break through and make hundreds,
thousands, millions, billions, etc. of dollars remember to fill my
bank account with some of the profit.

if anyone has any info that will help me on my quest to find the
perfect CS. be sure to fill me in.  thanx.  

 

 





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CSA good colloidal silver maker

2003-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Urra-Bazain
Hello:)

I'm new to the list. I'm sure you've covered this
question before, but I don't have time to search
through the archives.

Could you please tell me what kind of colloidal silver
generator to buy, and what kind of silver to use with
it?

What's the difference between this ionic stuff and
regualr colloidal silver???

With SARS running ramapnat, and my income tax refund
coming in, I want to buy a colloidal silver generator.

Has anyone any info on how effective it would be
against SARS???

Thx
Liz

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CSWhere's the article Please??

2003-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Urra-Bazain
Hi again:)

I noticed in the first two digest emails I received
that someone referred to an article on CS uses. Could
someone please point me to the article, repost it or
give ma a link?? I'm really interested in all it can
be used for...

Hmmm..I've heard it makes a good spray for your
swimming pool to cut down in stuff in your pool. Does
anyone know if you can buy a filter with silver for
the swimming pool???

Maybe one of you brainy inventor types could come up
with one;)

Thx
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CSFw: CSInteresting article on SARS

2003-04-07 Thread bob smith
Marshall,
Very interesting. I have a few things I would like to share, but because
of their nature, off list.
Bob Smith  rresm...@attbi.com
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: CSInteresting article on SARS


 http://www.greatdreams.com/sars.htm

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CSNew to list

2003-04-07 Thread Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
Hello,
I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey with 
entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last year. I 
was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but ignored), 
adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was treated for 
the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which was a 
disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid therapy and not 
getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So, the flagyl just 
about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite ignorant doctor after 
I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and brought him the results 
and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to handle 10 days of Flagyl at 
750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that time, I got a new out of state 
thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low dose cortef. Over the next few 
months, my health improved greatly, except that I still had the bug. I visited 
a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba. He ran blood 
tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more knowledgeable 
informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether I did or didn't 
still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I still had it because 
I knew I was not right.

Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and other 
soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts of 
infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I live in 
an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown by doctors 
and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get help from any 
local or statewide doc and there was only one other approved medication 
available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug that would 
get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I decided to order 
Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US because the drug 
companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the amoeba and cysts in 
just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick people. It must be followed 
with another antibiotic (paromomycin, Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 
days in order to take care of the remaining cysts. I was not able to get any of 
these others. So, I happened on a product called Silver  Clove, which contains 
colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill amoeba) and a few other things. I 
used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited for the tinidazole to arrive and I had 
pretty good results. Then after taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver 
 Clove for over a week. Now, I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation 
alone on the second week after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts 
or I will be very unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not 
keen at all on doing it again.

So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is at 
killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to 
healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish healthy 
life forms in the gut. I've read that people use it all the time. Does this 
affect nutrient uptake, since some life forms are needed for good digestion and 
digestive tract health? It is claimed it will control yeast, but I have read 
one person's personal account who did not get yeast control. This scares me as 
to whether then it really is totally effective against amoeba cysts.

Thanks
Tish



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Re: CSNew to list

2003-04-07 Thread Bill Missett

Welcome to the list.  Hope this helps fill in the info-gap:

I've had excellent results with killing and controlling amoebas and other
parasites, and live in an area (Southern Mexico) where they are common food
contaminants, as well as salmonella, e.coli, and others (bad shrimp, bay
oysters, etc.)

I've killed all of the above with CS, a potent variety sold OTC all over
Mexico, in industrial strength dosages for extended periods of time, with no
adverse intestinal conditions.  (Certainly not as bad as the conditions the
CS is preventing, anyway. A little acididolphilus never hurts either.)

As to whether CS will kill the amoeba cysts themselves, I am uncertain, but
I would suspect the answer is yes.  It will kill all amoebas as they hatch,
breaking the cycle they create in your body.

I have been so effective in control of these intestinal parasites, through
daily doses of CS, that I have not suffered a single incident in five years,
nor have I had a single case of dengue fever during that same time, which I
used to get about 2-3 times a year.

- Original Message -
From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS] lkwet...@iastate.edu
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: CSNew to list


 Hello,
 I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey
with entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last
year. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but
ignored), adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was
treated for the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which
was a disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid
therapy and not getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So,
the flagyl just about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite
ignorant doctor after I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and
brought him the results and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to
handle 10 days of Flagyl at 750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that
time, I got a new out of state thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low
dose cortef. Over the next few months, my health improved greatly, except
that I still had the bug. !
 I visited a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba.
He ran blood tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more
knowledgeable informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether
I did or didn't still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I
still had it because I knew I was not right.

 Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and
other soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts
of infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I
live in an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown
by doctors and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get
help from any local or statewide doc and there was only one other approved
medication available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug
that would get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I
decided to order Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US
because the drug companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the
amoeba and cysts in just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick
people. It must be followed with another antibiotic (paromomycin,
Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 days in order to take care of the
remaining cysts. I was n!
 ot able to get any of these others. So, I happened on a product called
Silver  Clove, which contains colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill
amoeba) and a few other things. I used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited
for the tinidazole to arrive and I had pretty good results. Then after
taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver  Clove for over a week. Now,
I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation alone on the second week
after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts or I will be very
unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not keen at all on
doing it again.

 So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is
at killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to
healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish
healthy life forms in the gut. I've read that people use it all the time.
Does this affect nutrient uptake, since some life forms are needed for good
digestion and digestive tract health? It is claimed it will control yeast,
but I have read one person's personal account who did not get yeast control.
This scares me as to whether then it really is totally effective against
amoeba cysts.

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 Tish



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2003-04-07 Thread bob smith
Liz,
  I'm relativly new at making CS but I got my generator from Silver Gen. and am 
well pleased with it. I've had it a month and have made probably 50 qts. so far 
ranging from 5 to 19 ppm. Every batch has turned out perfect. I think that it 
is important that you can set the strength and have it turn off automatically.
  Bob Smith
  


Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Jack Dayton
 In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not aware
 of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain barrier.
 
 Marshall
**

Many years ago, before desk top computers,
I read an article condemning aluminum as a
possible cause of Alzheimers - I have never
used an antiperspirant since --
even if that were not true, think of the
money I have saved. :-)

Jack 


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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is fact that the brains of alzheimers patients have an elevated level of 
aluminum
in them.  It is unclear whether aluminum in the brain causes alheimzers, or if 
the
disease causes accumulation of aluminum in the brain.  Also it is unclear how 
the
aluminum gets in the brain, since I believe it is suppose to be stopped by the 
blood
brain barrier. Since there is a great deal of aluminum and aluminum compounds 
around
us and in the soil, there is likely some other unidentified mechanism at work.

One of the latest things I read was that it could actually be caused by a prion.

Marshall

Jack Dayton wrote:

  In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not 
  aware
  of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain barrier.
 
  Marshall
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 I read an article condemning aluminum as a
 possible cause of Alzheimers - I have never
 used an antiperspirant since --
 even if that were not true, think of the
 money I have saved. :-)

 Jack

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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
what's the voltage to the standard d battery? what temperature was the water 
used?

- Original Message -
From: Robert Berger
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

Greetings CS'ers,

Now about silver in water. I have reported several times on this list of my
personal experience with silver in water so here is it again..

While living in Honduras I took a sample of our off the mountain unprocessed
drinking water to our research laboratory to run a silver effectiveness study. 
Dr.
wArren our research pathologist have 12 petri dishes prepared with beef broth,
peptone and augar prepare for me.

The sample was divide into three parts:
1. untreated and a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution series were streaked on to one 
set
of the petri dishes.

2. Sample #2 was stirred with a silver rod for about one minute and then a 
similar
dilution series were made.

3. Sample #3 was stirred with two silver wires connected to the ends of a 
standard
D battery, then a third series was made.

After 24 hours of incubation the results were as follows:

#1 even the 1000 to 1 sample was covered with bacteria colonies.

#2 the 1000 to 1 was clean and the 100 to 1 had a few colonies.

#3 none of the samples had any colonies!!!

Now for some Americana. Check your history when the pioneers crossed the west in
covered wagons every milk bucket and water bucket had a silver dollar in then to
keep the milk and water clean!!!

Do you home work.


Ole Bob




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Re: CSCS and H2o2

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
very funny your thinking of useing h202 with CS. last night i made CS with h2o2 
rather than useing distilled water. i'm not sure of my result. it just appeared 
to clean one electrode and turn the other electrode a white then a light 
yellow. and that's pretty much it. if anyone has done this or has knowledge on 
the subject please share.  

amazeing how 1 atom extra in h2o (to make h2o2) will cause such a difference.  

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS and H2o2

   Dear list members:   I accidentally left my Beck silver pulser running too 
long while making a quart of cs.  Lots too long.  Quite a gold color.  I am now 
adding peroxide to it to see if I can get a clear color.  Question is Will this 
brew be suitable for internal ingestion even if it does turn clear?  Or should 
I relegate it to the external use only jar?  Thanks.  pjps  I had used 
boiling distilled water at the beginning of the process.  Maybe I should just 
throw it out?   




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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:

 what's the voltage to the standard d battery?

 All single cell flashlight battery (that is a cell), whether
 carbon/zinc or alkaline are approximately 1.5 volts.

 Marshall


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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Jim

I've read reports in the past relating aluminum to Alzheimer's.

Jim

Jack Dayton wrote:

In what form? There is a lot of aluminum in the earth's crust.  I am not aware
of any significant toxicity unless it gets through the blood brain barrier.

Marshall


**

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possible cause of Alzheimers - I have never
used an antiperspirant since --
even if that were not true, think of the
money I have saved. :-)

Jack 



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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have 
little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off 
of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due 
to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue 
skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they?  

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER


   The reason that using 6 volts works so well but takes longer that 27  
volts is that the lower voltage draws less current.
  If you use a constant current generator, it lowers the voltage for you  
automatically as the process goes.
  Essentially, as the CS gets stronger, the voltage gets weaker and  
releases ions at a constant [preferably slow] rate.
  The major keys to making small particle CS is controlled current taylored  
to your specific electrode surface area and spacing...and even distribution  
of the ions as they are released. [stirring]

  A silver coin will sit in plain water for centuries virtually  
unchanged.  Why would drinking that water do anything?

AC [alternating current] means that the electricity reverses polarity at  
some frequency...60 times per second in America, 50 times per second in Europe.
  DC [direct current] does not change polarity.

  AC and DC are two different animals like a zebra and a mule that both  
look like horses...no equivalency to chart other than they both can pull a  
plow.

Other than variations in dissolved gasses due to atmospheric conditions,  
water is still H2O just like it was for the Egyptions.  Hydrogen and oxygen  
haven't changed.
  It  was  probably a global weather shift that made the desert, though  
over grazing has fairly recently expanded it.
  That area is still pretty much like it was for the old Egyptians. They  
didn't create that desert.
  That's not to say that people can't make a desert.

Something major happened world wide about 15,000 - 20,000 years ago. It  
might have been people related.  Possibly a big nuke war. Not so much too  
many people, just some very mean ones.
  Or it could have been a meteor strike.

ken


CSThanks for the info

2003-04-07 Thread Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
Dear Bill,
Thanks for the encouragement on the amoeba thing. You are right that if it 
kills the amoeba itself, then the cycle will be broken. When you say 
industrial strength. what dose are you talking about? 

Thanks again.
Tish


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CSAlzheimer's - another theory

2003-04-07 Thread Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
I have read yet another theory on this that ties it to various degrees of 
hypothyroidism. In hypothyroidism, cells are not able to clear toxins and 
byproducts of metabolism. People naturally become more hypo as they age. In the 
caveman days, humans got some amount of animal thyroid from their meet and it 
is estimated that it was about equivalent to 1/4 grain a week. This could 
offset it if it is playing a role in the buildup.

Tish


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Re: CSperfect CS possible questions

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
probably right.

- Original Message -
From: Tony Moody
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSperfect CS possible questions

Uhh, Ingrid, maybe we are waiting to see if you come up with something  
useful. Or maybe we are waitng for you to find out yourself. You have  
obviously put a lot of effort into it so far , and I appreciate your telling  
us about it.

Suggest that you add the minerals after you have made the CS.
OK,
Tony

INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:
   
 to find what the ionic mineral water contains go to  
 www.sunstoneherbals.com http://www.sunstoneherbals.com under the  
 heading ionic minerals. look for  water of life and click the picture it  
 will give you a list of minerals.
   
 why i did not receive any info about ionic minerals I do not know. was  
 it due to lack of knowledge on the subject or did it seem to be off topic??
   
 A  PERCEPTION essential to understanding.
   
 but thanx for all the info and help so far. you guys R the greatest.



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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread Jack Dayton
 One of the latest things I read was that it (alzheimers)
could actually be caused by a prion.
 
 Marshall
*
Thanks Marshall, but I wouldn't
know a PRION if I tripped over it.

Jack


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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread James Allison
Could it possibly be a chemical reaction between the wine and the silver 
storage containers and silver goblets?

Yours in health,
James Allison



  - Original Message - 
  From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER


  i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have 
little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off 
of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due 
to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue 
skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they? 

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER


   The reason that using 6 volts works so well but takes longer that 27 
volts is that the lower voltage draws less current.
  If you use a constant current generator, it lowers the voltage for you 
automatically as the process goes.
  Essentially, as the CS gets stronger, the voltage gets weaker and 
releases ions at a constant [preferably slow] rate.
  The major keys to making small particle CS is controlled current taylored 
to your specific electrode surface area and spacing...and even distribution 
of the ions as they are released. [stirring]

  A silver coin will sit in plain water for centuries virtually 
unchanged.  Why would drinking that water do anything?

AC [alternating current] means that the electricity reverses polarity at 
some frequency...60 times per second in America, 50 times per second in 
Europe.
  DC [direct current] does not change polarity.

  AC and DC are two different animals like a zebra and a mule that both 
look like horses...no equivalency to chart other than they both can pull a 
plow.

Other than variations in dissolved gasses due to atmospheric conditions, 
water is still H2O just like it was for the Egyptions.  Hydrogen and oxygen 
haven't changed.
  It  was  probably a global weather shift that made the desert, though 
over grazing has fairly recently expanded it.
  That area is still pretty much like it was for the old Egyptians. They 
didn't create that desert.
  That's not to say that people can't make a desert.

Something major happened world wide about 15,000 - 20,000 years ago. It 
might have been people related.  Possibly a big nuke war. Not so much too 
many people, just some very mean ones.
  Or it could have been a meteor strike.

ken



CSDidn't mean to be rude

2003-04-07 Thread Jeff
There have been a lot of information coming my way via this list and I
haven't replied to some of them. Just wanted to say I didn't mean to
disappear like that, just been to busy to get online lately. I really do
appreciate all the info and responses. I am really learning a lot from
the people on this list.


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Re: CSdeodorant effective or not

2003-04-07 Thread hdka
Well if I was in prison I think I would like to have alzheimer. (sorry I 
couldn't resist) 

Jack Dayton writes: 


One of the latest things I read was that it (alzheimers)

could actually be caused by a prion.
 

Marshall

*
Thanks Marshall, but I wouldn't
know a PRION if I tripped over it. 


Jack




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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Denise Every

i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have 
little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off 
of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due 
to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue 
skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they? 


I've never heard of blueskins before, or this statemetn about them surviving 
plagues... can you send links to elucidate?




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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread hdka
What about the silverware rubbing on the silverware causing flakes? 

James Allison writes: 

Could it possibly be a chemical reaction between the wine and the silver storage containers and silver goblets? 


Yours in health,
James Allison 

 

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  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER 



  i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they? 


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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Robert Berger
Ingrid,

You are absolutely correct. History shows that Nebuchaddazzar carried
the drinking water for his troops in wagons carring silver tanks.

The royality were also called blue bloods for that very same reason.

Nice to know that you are 18 years old. I was that about 63 years ago.
Don't stop learning.

Ole Bob



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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread Albert Peirce
Bob, be a little fairer to your readers. I have not done my homework on when
the milk pail or bucket was standardised, or when tin plating was
commonplace, but what you are implying is that there was an electrolytic
reaction between the bucket and the silver dollar. The water buckets and
milk pails were not made of plastic, glass or clay, and no matter what they
were (copper, iron, tin plate or zinc plate) there was some form of
electrolysis.
Regards, Al...
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From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER


 Greetings CS'ers,

 Now about silver in water. I have reported several times on this list of
my
 personal experience with silver in water so here is it again..

 While living in Honduras I took a sample of our off the mountain
unprocessed
 drinking water to our research laboratory to run a silver effectiveness
study. Dr.
 wArren our research pathologist have 12 petri dishes prepared with beef
broth,
 peptone and augar prepare for me.

 The sample was divide into three parts:
 1. untreated and a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution series were streaked on
to one set
 of the petri dishes.

 2. Sample #2 was stirred with a silver rod for about one minute and then a
similar
 dilution series were made.

 3. Sample #3 was stirred with two silver wires connected to the ends of a
standard
 D battery, then a third series was made.

 After 24 hours of incubation the results were as follows:

 #1 even the 1000 to 1 sample was covered with bacteria colonies.

 #2 the 1000 to 1 was clean and the 100 to 1 had a few colonies.

 #3 none of the samples had any colonies!!!

 Now for some Americana. Check your history when the pioneers crossed the
west in
 covered wagons every milk bucket and water bucket had a silver dollar in
then to
 keep the milk and water clean!!!

 Do you home work.


 Ole Bob




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CSbluebloods, not skins

2003-04-07 Thread mamapug
  They were called blue BLOODs, as they were (relatively) clean enough to see 
the veins at the wrists, which appear blue. The working folk apparently were 
not...



  i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have 
little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off 
of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due 
to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue 
skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they? 


Re: CSlung diseases fibrosis, asthma, COPD etc....

2003-04-07 Thread Duncan Crow
Hi Catherine;

Antioxidants can't change the progress of a genetic anomaly, true, but 
they can sure change anything to do with oxidative stress that is 
increased due to that anomaly. The oxidative stress forms a large 
component of the progress and permanent damage of most lung disorders 
including this one.

Did you take the time to peruse some of the Medline data along those 
lines? Here's an excerpt from another one...

Evidence is accumulating that secondary genetic factors separate from 
the CFTR locus significantly influence the severity of CF lung disease. 
The general classes of these potential modifier genes include 
inflammatory and antiinflammatory mediators, antioxidants, mediators of 
airway reactivity, molecules involved in CFTR trafficking, and 
alternative ion channels. The best-studied CF candidate modifiers include 
mannose-binding lectin, glutathione-S-transferase, transforming growth 
factor-beta1, tumor necrosis factor-alpha, beta2-adrenegic receptor, and 
HLA class II antigens. 

I think that without overlooking the other factors listed, it would be 
wise to at least apply the antioxidant program for the oxidative stress 
alone, although suppressing infection with antioxidants is also of great 
benefit.

Duncan

   Certainly, your recommendation of better nutrition and a good
   antioxidant
 from program would help in reducing the infections two which people are
 prone when they have CF.  It's a great suggestion. But all the Immunocal
 and antioxidants in the world will not change the genetic mutation that
 causes CF.
 
 Regards,
 Catherine


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Re: CSWhere's the article Please??

2003-04-07 Thread Brian Caouette
 Hmmm..I've heard it makes a good spray for your
 swimming pool to cut down in stuff in your pool. Does
 anyone know if you can buy a filter with silver for
 the swimming pool???

Yes you can. I've even seen portable water filters at LL Bean with Silver
filters. As for the pool the link is on my website www.dlois.com/realtruth
under the CS section. I forget exactly were the company is but I thought it
useful enough to link to.




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CSCS water storage tanks

2003-04-07 Thread Nancy Estes
Anybody have any info on using CS in a 550-gal. fiberglass water storage tank?  
Advisable?  If so, how much?

Nancy Estes
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Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
ohhh. blue bloods not blue skins. I apologize for the mix up. i tend to do that 
at times as you will probably see in the future readings. i tend to only 
remember the overall concept but when it comes to details i can't recall. i am 
a former pot head for 5 years plus i am classified with A.D.D./A.D.H.D. so 
that can't help. hopefully from my years of being a stoner the side effects 
aren't irreversible but according to the dr.'s i can't expect any remedy from 
them. (just adderol but i want to stray from synthetic medication. adderol is 
basically F.D.A approved crank!)  I'm with rob dr.'s don't know crap! I'm on my 
own but maybe not, with the help of the silver list. so far it's been 
educational.   

- Original Message -
From: Robert Berger
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp me make the most perfect CS EVER

Ingrid,

You are absolutely correct. History shows that Nebuchaddazzar carried
the drinking water for his troops in wagons carring silver tanks.

The royality were also called blue bloods for that very same reason.

Nice to know that you are 18 years old. I was that about 63 years ago.
Don't stop learning.

Ole Bob



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Re: CSbluebloods, not skins

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
i just corrected myself about 3 minutes ago. cheers.

- Original Message -
From: mamapug
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSbluebloods, not skins

They were called blue BLOODs, as they were (relatively) clean enough to see the 
veins at the wrists, which appear blue. The working folk apparently were not...


  
i will take into consideration that leaving a silver coin in water will have 
little if any change but i ask you to explain why the blue skins eating off 
of SILVERware, real silver ware survived plagues? the blue skins nicknamed due 
to there amount of silver intake causeing the graying of the skin hence blue 
skins had no battery or any mechanical ways to produce CS or did they?  


Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts

2003-04-07 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Charles,
There are several dictionary/encyclopedic volumes available
on the open market.which provide the molecular  weights of all of the known
antibiotics.  They are, generally, on the costly side.
Such information may, also, be obtained through a search on the
characteristics of a specific antibiotic.  Unfortunately, there is no easy
way to group the antibiotics for an all-inclusive reference (if you are
interested in applying this knowledge to a protocol involving DMSO as a
transporter) that would apply to them as a class.  For example:  penicillin has
a molecular weigth of 981.2just barely qualifying as a candidate for DMSO
transport;  vancomycin is 1449.2;  streptomycin is 581.6.  This brief example
serves to show that the frequently-used antibiotics are scattered on both sides
of the 1000 upper limit of dependable DMSO transport capabilities.
I apologize for not having the time to supply you with more
definitive information to your inquiry.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

Charles Sutton wrote:

 Does anyone know the molecular weight of the anti-biotics that DMSO carries
 into the blood stream??

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mahoney mmaho...@eoni.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO thoughts and Eye Thoughts

  Henry Holland Simms wrote:
  
   DMSO will 'carry 'anything' into the body and is almost as effective as
   IV.
 
  (snip)
 
 
  The above misconception crops up fairly often so I will once again
  post information from Dr. Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long
  time user of DMSO.
 
  ... You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a molecular weight
  of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus is one million.
  A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
  It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.
 
 
  You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
  made this statement at:
 
  http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.
 
  Michael
 
 
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Re: CSRe[2]: CSpurest ever cont'd. experiment

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET


this is actually very helpful. thanx this is the feedback i was looking for. 
I'm just trying to educate myself. the whole experiment i posted was for 
feedback. i will eventually one day try to make best and most effective CS... 
one day with the proper tools and educational background. and i live in the 
best place to get educated. i live in a town called Lumberton in new jersey 
approximately 10 minutes from Westampton new jersey which if I am correct does 
CS research maybe there is a way to hook up with that facility.


Re: CSWhere's the article Please??

2003-04-07 Thread Charles Sutton
Link for silver pool filter didn't work.

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Caouette bri...@dlois.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhere's the article Please??


  Hmmm..I've heard it makes a good spray for your
  swimming pool to cut down in stuff in your pool. Does
  anyone know if you can buy a filter with silver for
  the swimming pool???

 Yes you can. I've even seen portable water filters at LL Bean with Silver
 filters. As for the pool the link is on my website www.dlois.com/realtruth
 under the CS section. I forget exactly were the company is but I thought
it
 useful enough to link to.




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Re: CSBlood Types (Coffee)COMMENT

2003-04-07 Thread Brooks Bradley


CSNew Jersey!

2003-04-07 Thread mamapug

i live in a town called Lumberton in new jersey 
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Cool, I have an email buddy in Tuckerton NJ, on the coast, whom I helped to 
cure herself of Lyme Disease with CS. That was what I had, too.
 By the way, I wasn`t on your case about bluebloods, just making a 
correction. Welcome, and I hope you will get WELL! This is a great place to 
find out what works.
Love,
Marshalee, an oldie around here...


Re: CSlung diseases fibrosis, asthma, COPD etc....

2003-04-07 Thread C Creel
Dear Duncan,


  You said:


Antioxidants can't change the progress of a genetic anomaly, true, but 
they can sure change anything to do with oxidative stress that is 
increased due to that anomaly. The oxidative stress forms a large 
component of the progress and permanent damage of most lung disorders 
including this one.


  **  You have some good points, Duncan.

Regards,
Catherine



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CSacute pancreaitis-OT (larger audience)

2003-04-07 Thread TJ Garland
I have a friend ,age 40, who is in the hospital with this problem. He does 
not drink,and according to a sonogram, does not have gall stones. He has a 
heart stent and has very high blood pressure. He has severe sleep apnea and 
sleeps with a breather. I need some help. I have recommended  an olive 
oil/lemon juice gall bladder cleanse( in case the sonogram missed them). The 
doc said he has no cysts and it does not run in his family. I have 
recommended a heavy dose of Superfood vitamins and I will let him use my 
Zapper for possible flukes. Any other suggestions?  TIA


TJ Garland, CMO supplier
  there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.



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Re: CSOT New Jersey!

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
ohhh don't take my comment the wrong way. i know it is very frustrating to get 
ha...@$$ed info. I am trying to find a natural way to cure or at least deal 
with the A.D.D./A.D.H.D. see cs I think is becoming effective to cure any 
physical ailments but my mental status is getting in the way of a lot. besides 
the ADD/ADHD. the Tuckerton e-mail buddy that's pretty cool i have never heard 
of Tuckerton. i live in Burlington county its central jersey.  

- Original Message -
From: mamapug
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNew Jersey!


i live in a town called Lumberton in new jersey  
snip


 By the way, I wasn't on your case about bluebloods, just making a correction. 
Welcome, and I hope you will get  

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