CSRe: Definition - or What the hell are they talking about?
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60705.html Thanks, Dan; I'm still waiting for this one to be resolved, which mysteriously entered a state of suspended animation: ...But the fact remains. The circuit presents a constant impedance between the variac and the silver cell... A simple 5 cent resistor would do exactly the same thing. Please explain how a resistor can have impedance which is strictly a quality of inductance? Best Regards HDN http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59322.html 5/22/03 jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCataracts
Marv Hacker6/26/03 5:04 AM To purchase excellent food grade cold pressed flax seed oil, as well as others: Eden Foods 800.248.0320 517.456.7424 Fax: 517.456.7025 www.edenfoods.com Best regards, :) Marv * I couldn't locate it, perhaps if you were to post the URL for the particular page the flaxseed oil is located on... Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: stirring motors
Use three 10k ohms in parallel, hooked up to another set in series. It's hard to find pots smaller than 1 k.1 k will work but it'll be touchy. You can also use a pot to bias a transistor. That way the transistor takes the load and a trimmer pot between 100k and 500k can be used. Best if all is that $3 pulse width modulator that Ole Bob mentioned. I think that will preserve all the torque at any speed so your stirrer won't tend to stall when run slow. Ode At 05:04 PM 6/25/2003 +0530, you wrote: Silver Friends, Ole Bob, Looking for the 1 1/2 volt motor, here in the Kathmandu electronics market, I could only come up with 3 volts. With 1 1/2 volts I was to use three 10k ohm resistors. Is there a way I can use the 3 volt motor, with other resistors, and end up with the same 20 rpm or so. And what about the pot? I'd try this first, then other approaches accordingly. Thanks, Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Then you are saying that silver nitrate would be better than CS for killing pathogens? Doesn't the data indicate that is not correct? CS works in the low ppm range, silver nitrate in the thousands of ppm. Marshall Jason Eaton wrote: Marv: If there are scientists who believe that particles have a greater direct pathogen-killing power, they are sadly mistaken. Beliefs can be tricky; they cannot be trusted. You can send references my way, as I would be more than interested to see their data. For the record, I like both particles and ions, and certainly don't have anything against a highly particulate silver. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Marv Hacker marv...@charter.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However do not freeze. Marshall Jeff wrote: I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the fridge. I read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive and about 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at this time. The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to think there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
OK, we have Bob saying that freezing does not hurt CS, and you saying it does, but claiming experimental proof. I will try freezing some and see the results. I will post the result back here shortly. Marshall Marv Hacker wrote: Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However do not freeze. Marshall Jeff wrote: I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the fridge. I read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive and about 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at this time. The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to think there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver Protein
I get: Not Found The requested URL /_utm.js was not found on this server. At that url. Marshall Frank Key wrote: For those interested, here is a link to an article on colloidal silver protein written by doctors at the FDA. www.purehealthsystems.com/colloidal-silver.html frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal Silver Protein
For those interested, here is a link to an article on colloidal silver protein written by doctors at the FDA. www.purehealthsystems.com/colloidal-silver.html frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Hi, Jason, The only objective evidence that I have, is in support of your position that Ionic Silver has the greater pathogen-killing power (outside of the body). I did the Milk Test, comparing a product containing mostly Ionic Silver with one that is mostly sub-nanometer Silver Particles, with an unadulterated sample. Placing four liquid ounces of milk (pasteurized and homogenized, where the use by date was more that a week into the future) from the same carton into three glasses , then adding a teaspoon from each of the two Silver products into two different glasses. After four days: + the untreated glass contained a solidified sour (stinky) substance. + the glass treated with the mostly-Particulate Silver product was partially solidified, and had some odor. + the glass treated with the mostly-Ionic Silver product was liquid, and there was no bad smell. To me, this indicates that Silver Ions are better at preserving milk than Silver Particles. It also suggests, to me, that Ionic Silver would have more pathogen-killing power than the Particulate Silver product, when used outside the human body (topically). However, from what I have read, the power to kill pathogen is yielded to the Silver Particles, when the war is being conducted inside the human body. Ionic silver in the human body is a section-title of an article Determining the Properties of Colloidal Silver, written by Francis Key and George Maass. It is located at: From: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/papers.html As student (a very old one), I thank you for your input. Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? Marv: If there are scientists who believe that particles have a greater direct pathogen-killing power, they are sadly mistaken. Beliefs can be tricky; they cannot be trusted. You can send references my way, as I would be more than interested to see their data. For the record, I like both particles and ions, and certainly don't have anything against a highly particulate silver. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Marv Hacker marv...@charter.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Marv Hacker wrote: Hi, Jason, The only objective evidence that I have, is in support of your position that Ionic Silver has the greater pathogen-killing power (outside of the body). I did the Milk Test, comparing a product containing mostly Ionic Silver with one that is mostly sub-nanometer Silver Particles, with an unadulterated sample. Placing four liquid ounces of milk (pasteurized and homogenized, where the use by date was more that a week into the future) from the same carton into three glasses , then adding a teaspoon from each of the two Silver products into two different glasses. After four days: + the untreated glass contained a solidified sour (stinky) substance. + the glass treated with the mostly-Particulate Silver product was partially solidified, and had some odor. + the glass treated with the mostly-Ionic Silver product was liquid, and there was no bad smell. Hmm, a teaspoon per 4 ounces. I think it is 3t/T and 16 T per cup and 16 cups/G and 128 oz/G. So I believe you had 1/4oz*2oz/T*3t/T = 1/24 =~ 4% CS in the milk. 128oz/24 = 5.3 oz of CS for a gallon of milk.. I am assuming you had left these at room temperature. If you refrigerated then I would expect it to work even better, so I bet no more than an ounce or two of CS in a new gallon of milk would make it last a very long time in the fridge. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: stirring motors
Though the value may be far too low, Radio Shack sells a wire wound rheostat rated at 25 ohms. Rgds, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: stirring motors Use three 10k ohms in parallel, hooked up to another set in series. It's hard to find pots smaller than 1 k.1 k will work but it'll be touchy. You can also use a pot to bias a transistor. That way the transistor takes the load and a trimmer pot between 100k and 500k can be used. Best if all is that $3 pulse width modulator that Ole Bob mentioned. I think that will preserve all the torque at any speed so your stirrer won't tend to stall when run slow. Ode At 05:04 PM 6/25/2003 +0530, you wrote: Silver Friends, Ole Bob, Looking for the 1 1/2 volt motor, here in the Kathmandu electronics market, I could only come up with 3 volts. With 1 1/2 volts I was to use three 10k ohm resistors. Is there a way I can use the 3 volt motor, with other resistors, and end up with the same 20 rpm or so. And what about the pot? I'd try this first, then other approaches accordingly. Thanks, Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgreat stuff about cs davido
David S Osborne 6/26/03 7:45 PM NCAHF News, November/December 1996 Volume 19, Issue #6 COLLOIDAL SILVER PRODUCTS WIDELY CONDEMNED Colloidal silver is being huckstered as a superior germ fighter by a number of promoters, including the wacky naturopath-veterinarian Joel Wallach. NCAHF reported that a permanent skin discoloration known as argyria can result from ingesting too much silver. and on and on and.. but what's your point? Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Definition - or What the hell are they talking about?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:53:29 -0700, jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Please explain how a resistor can have impedance which is strictly a quality of inductance? Ah, the good old imaginary numbers. As I recall, impedance is a vector calculated from capacitive or inductive reactance and the ohmic resistance of the device. A resistor merely has a very low reactance component but the calculation can still be called impedance. Chuck Yes, sir, we've graphed the data. It's a smiley face, sir. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Marshall wrote: = Hmm, a teaspoon per 4 ounces. I think it is 3t/T and 16 T per cup and 16 cups/G and 128 oz/G. So I believe you had 1/4oz*2oz/T*3t/T = 1/24 =~ 4% CS in the milk. 128oz/24 = 5.3 oz of CS for a gallon of milk.. I am assuming you had left these at room temperature. If you refrigerated then I would expect it to work even better, so I bet no more than an ounce or two of CS in a new gallon of milk would make it last a very long time in the fridge. = Marshall, You are correct. For the test, I did leave the glasses of milk at room temprature, and uncovered, for the four days. Thank you for your input. Best regards, :) Marv -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS OT AC Circuit Analysis
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60718.html From: jrowland (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:11:51 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60705.html Thanks, Dan; I'm still waiting for this one to be resolved, which mysteriously entered a state of suspended animation: ...But the fact remains. The circuit presents a constant impedance between the variac and the silver cell... A simple 5 cent resistor would do exactly the same thing. Please explain how a resistor can have impedance which is strictly a quality of inductance? Best Regards HDN http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59322.html 5/22/03 jr -- This is basic ac circuit analysis. Resistance is defined only at DC. At any other frequency, you talk about the impedance of a circuit. This is determined by the reactance of the circuit elements, where Inductive reactance: XL = 2 * pi * F * L Capacitive reactance: XC = 1 / (2 * pi * F * C) Thus, the impedance of a RLC circuit is a function of frequency. There are many ways of defining resonance. One of them is the frequency where XL = XC. Then 2 * pi * F * L = 1 / (2 * pi * F * C) (2 * pi * F * L) * (2 * pi * F * C) = 1 4 * pi^2 * F^2 * L * C = 1 F^2 = 1 / (4 * pi^2 * L * C) Take the square root of both sides: F = 1 / (2 * pi * sqrt(LC)) Thus at resonance, the reactances cancel and the resulting circuit impedance is purely resistive. He operates at resonance, and a linear circuit is not affected by amplitude. Hence his LRC circuit can be replaced with a single resistor. There are many excellent tutorials on the web. Just search for ac circuit analysis. Stuff like this belongs on the off-topic list. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Marv, I expect you would be right that only an ounce or two would be required to keep a gallon of milk fresh in the fridge. Just don't forget and try to make yogurt with the milk with CS in..grin it won't workan inadvertent experiment I once performed. paula - Original Message - From: Marv Hacker marv...@charter.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT AC Circuit Analysis
...Stuff like this belongs on the off-topic list. Well, that's not where this stuff, so grandly propounded and suddenly dropped, was found. Why is that? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIs it soup yet?
Mike, If I make a low voltage low current dc system such as you describe, but use my own volume of water and my own electrodes of whatever surface area, how can I tell when the batch is done? I do not have a ammeter or a PWT but I do have a good voltmeter and any number of precision resistors with which to measure and calculate current, resistance, and now conductance. Or do I have to figure out how to calculate the coulombs and go from there? Dan Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSsores in corner of mouth - lysine Jay, I don't think you'll find anyone more disorganized than me. But I have a simple way to make sure I take my cs. I have a few small cavities. These should be filled, but I use them to tell me when to take my silver, and how well it is working. For example, the cs I used to make lasted about one day, even though I drank a full 8 oz glass. I tried three different methods of stirring, but each one reduced the effectiveness of the cs to only several hours. I got interested in finding a way to make cs with a single 9V battery. The intent was to make very simple generators to send to friends in Moldavia. After making a greate deal of sludge, I finally discovered the key was to use plenty of wetted area and to keep the current density very low, perhaps around 100 uA per square inch. This allowed a simple series resistor to regulate the current to the desired value, and a single 9V battery is all that was needed. The calcuations for the resistor in series are simple, but the actual value is not critical. You can adjust it to get a convenient brew time. I like to use 6 hrs since I can simply draw an imaginary clock in my mind and move the hour hand to the opposite side of the circle. The timing is not critical. If you have to go shopping and return an hour late, it only means the brew will be slightly stronger. You do not have to throw it away like I used to when I was using 1.4 mA/sq. in and was 20 minutes late. The first real batch was made on a Monday. On Wednesday of that week, I was astonished to find the residual Shingles scabs that had been bothering me for six months fall off and disappear. This never happened with the cs I made at 1.4 mA/sq. in, even though they both used the same number of Coulombs per quantity of dw. Then I found I no longer needed to drink a full 8 oz glass to keep the cavities at bay. I needed only a single mouthfull every 3 or 4 days. A friend also has cavities that bothered her, and she also found she needed only a mouthfull every 3 or 4 days. She became a sensitive quality control expert for my experiments. She got so she could tell me how well the brew would work, and expressed her pleasure when I made good stuff. She explained to me how she does it, and I now can do the same. Just run your tongue along your teeth after holding some cs in your mouth for 10 minutes. The good stuff has a definite effect on the roughness. Weak stuff will not have as great an effect. Her son used to get cold sores, which is the topic of this thread. The new cs stopped them cold after he was put on a strict regime of 1 mouthful every 2 days. So, cs made at 100 uA/sq. in or less seems to work very well. Since you can simply hold it in your mouth and don't have to swallow it, there seems to be little worry about eating fruit and having the cs make silver citrate in your tummy. There is limited information on silver citrate in the archives, but here's one post that might be useful: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: stirring motors
In a message dated 6/25/2003 9:51:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rresm...@attbi.com writes: Count your blessings for not finding the 1 1/2 V. motor. I had the misfortune of finding one last night at Radio Shack. In retrospect, I wish I'd had your good fortune I use a variable DC power supply bought from Walmart where I added a resistor and connected it to alligator clips. All I need to do is set the DC supply on 3 VDC and connect the clips to the motor. I use 3 VDC as I generally run two CS generators at the same time, so the two 1.5 motors are in series. I ruined one stirring motor trying to solder on leads. Brickey
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
Marv, Francis Key manufactures Mesosilver, a colloidal product. What would you expect him to write? I'll wait for objective, unbiased data to surface. Al Davis - Original Message - From: Marv Hacker marv...@charter.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? However, from what I have read, the power to kill pathogen is yielded to the Silver Particles, when the war is being conducted inside the human body. Ionic silver in the human body is a section-title of an article Determining the Properties of Colloidal Silver, written by Francis Key and George Maass. It is located at: From: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/papers.html As student (a very old one), I thank you for your input. Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? Marv: If there are scientists who believe that particles have a greater direct pathogen-killing power, they are sadly mistaken. Beliefs can be tricky; they cannot be trusted. You can send references my way, as I would be more than interested to see their data. For the record, I like both particles and ions, and certainly don't have anything against a highly particulate silver. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Marv Hacker marv...@charter.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However do not freeze. Marshall Jeff wrote: I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the fridge. I read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive and about 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at this time. The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to think there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive:
Re: CSCataracts
Jack, Barlean's is one of the 3 top FO producers. They will sell it to any one who has cancer or who are in remission for wholesale. $16.25 a qt. No shipping on orders over $75. They also sell Dr. Budwigs book which is $6.95 for $1.95. Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:00 AM Subject: Re: CSCataracts Marv Hacker6/26/03 5:04 AM To purchase excellent food grade cold pressed flax seed oil, as well as others: Eden Foods 800.248.0320 517.456.7424 Fax: 517.456.7025 www.edenfoods.com Best regards, :) Marv * I couldn't locate it, perhaps if you were to post the URL for the particular page the flaxseed oil is located on... Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIs it soup yet?
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CSIs it soup yet?
From: Dan Nave
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:10:13
Mike,
If I make a low voltage low current dc system such as you
describe, but use my own volume of water and my own electrodes of
whatever surface area, how can I tell when the batch is done?
I do not have a ammeter or a PWT but I do have a good voltmeter
and any number of precision resistors with which to measure and
calculate current, resistance, and now conductance. Or do I have
to figure out how to calculate the coulombs and go from there?
Dan
It's easy when you use a high current density like you get from 3
nines. Just watch for mist streaming off the rods like this
http://www.utopiasilver.com/images/gen3.jpg
The picture is from the Utopia web page
http://www.utopiasilver.com/generator.htm
However, it's not so easy when you run low current density, such as
80 uA/sq.in. You may go through the entire run and never see
anything happen.
In this case, you need to be able to calculate the target ppm and
see what combination of wetted area and cell current will give the
desired results. Of course, if particles are generated, the actual
ppm will be below the target value. But there seems to be very
little particle generation at low current density.
Mercury is an excellent tool for these calculations.
http://archives.math.utk.edu/software/msdos/calculus/mrcry209/.html
Then all you need are the various conversion factors and the
parameters you wish to use. It will figure out how to solve the
unknowns for you. Here's an example:
I am currently trying to figure out the ion density next to the
anode and how it relates to the start of particle formation. A
similar calculation may lead to what happens at the cathode, where
the mist first appears.
I have collected some conversion factors and list them below:
C = I * sec ; total number of Coulombs
den = I / sqin; current density Amperes per sq in
gm = k * I * sec ; Faraday's equation
k = 107.868 / 96500 ; Coulombs required per gram of silver
mg = gm * 1000 ; convert grams to milligrams
ppm = mg / lt ; 1 ppm is 1 milligram per litre
sec = hrs * 3600 ; convert hours to seconds
ml = 29.57 * oz ; convert ounce to milliliters
lt = ml / 1000 ; convert millilitres to litres
ele = I / 1.60217733e-19; electrons per second
isq = ele / sqin ; ions per second per sq. in. per sec
isn = isq / 6.45e14 ; ions per square nanometer per sec
Here is a typical calculation to find the required current and rate
of ions leaving the anode for a target ppm of 20 and a brew time of
24 hrs:
hrs = 24 ; brew time in hours
sqin = 3.8; wetted area in square inches
ml = 425; volume of dw
ppm = 20 ; target ppm
Here's the printout
Solution
C= 86400*I
= +7.6042014313791
I= +8.8011590640962E-05
sec = +86400.
den = 0.263157894736842*I
= +2.3160944905516E-05
sqin = +3.800{ = +19 / 5 }
gm = 96.578188601036*I
= +0.0085 { = +17 / 2000 }
k= +0.001117803108808290
mg = 96578.188601036*I
= +8.5{ = +17 / 2 }
ppm = +20.000
lt = +0.425 { = +17 / 40 }
hrs = +24.000
ml = +425.00
oz = +14.3726750084545{ = +42500 / 2957 }
ele = 6.24150636309403E+18*I
= +5.4932490301159E+14
isq = 1.64250167449843E+18*I
= +144559185003050.
isn = 2546.51422402857*I
= +0.224122767446589
So this says to run at 88 uA. The ion density is 0.224 per square
nanometer per second.
Now all we need is the drift velocity per second and we can estimate
the density of the ion cloud. If we figure out the probability of
two ions being forced together, we can see how particle formation is
related to current density.
We can do the same calculation at a typical value of 1.4 mA/sq.in.
Here's the input parameters:
sqin = 3.8; wetted area in square inches
I= 1.4e-3 ; current in Amperes
ml = 425
ppm = 20
And here's the solution:
C= 0.0014*sec
= +7.6042014313791
I= +0.001400 { = +7 / 5000 }
sec = 3600*hrs
= +5431.5724509851
den = +0.000368421052631579 { = +7 / 19000 }
sqin = +3.800{ = +19 / 5 }
gm = 0.0056337276683938*hrs
= +0.0085 { = +17 / 2000 }
k= +0.001117803108808290
mg = 5.6337276683938*hrs
= +8.5{ = +17 / 2 }
ppm = +20.000
lt = +0.425 { =
Re: CSIs it soup yet?
Second of two parts:
Of course, it would help to run at a density of 1.4 mA/sq.in., not a cell
current of that amount.
Here's the input parameters:
sqin = 3.8; wetted area in square inches
ml = 425
ppm = 20
den = 1.4e-3
And here's the result:
C= I*sec
= +7.6042014313791
I= +0.00532 { = +133 / 25000 }
sec = 3600*hrs
= +1429.36117131186
den = +0.001400 { = +7 / 5000 }
sqin = +3.800{ = +19 / 5 }
gm = 4.0240911917098*I*hrs
= +0.0085 { = +17 / 2000 }
k= +0.001117803108808290
mg = 21.4081651398964*hrs
= +8.5{ = +17 / 2 }
ppm = +20.000
lt = +0.425 { = +17 / 40 }
hrs = +0.39704476980885
ml = +425.00
oz = +14.3726750084545{ = +42500 / 2957 }
ele = 6.24150636309403E+18*I
= +3.32048138516602E+16
isq = 1.64250167449843E+18*I
= +8.7381089083316E+15
isn = 2546.51422402857*I
= +13.5474556718320
So the ion density increased from 0.224 to 13.54 per square nanometer per
second. This gives a much greater chance of banging them together and
starting the formation of particles. Once this starts, the particles are
bigger and slower and it is easier to add more ions. So I think there is
a critical current density where the system avalanches.
Best Regards,
Mike Monett
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Re: CSRe: stirring motors
Marv. The 25 ohm is a good choice. My want to tie both ends together and get a psuedo 12.5 ohm pot. Use one end and the wiper inseries with the motor. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCataracts
Boy you got to be tough to do the Atkins stuff. I have done it a few times and am kinda doing it now. I stopped eating flour and sugar about a month ago but that is as far as I went. Things that I have read on this list have pointed me into different directions and some of them lead to how bad flour is for you which backed up what Atkins has been saying all along. Never noticed a change in my eyes tho. I was telling my mom to try CS in the water for her dog who has cataracts real bad and then told her to put CS drops in the eyes but never considered DMSO mixed in with it. -Original Message- From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:40 PM To: Jeff; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCataracts I don't know. I don't have cataracts, but if I did I would be able to tell you. I might try it anyway because my vision has dropped from 20/10 to 20/40 in the last six weeks. The Dr. said sugar is the likely culprit, so I'll drop the sugar and get back on Atkins maintenance diet again. That is when my vision first improved about 20 years ago.. I threw away my glasses after about 6 mos.. - Original Message - From: Jeff mailto:jd...@anaweb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: RE: CSCataracts DMSO in the eye? Wouldn't that burn like crazy? -Original Message- From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:12 PM To: shirley holder; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCataracts In the book DMSO Natures Healer by Dr. Morton Walker it is stated on pages 68 and 69 that one drop of dmso directly onto the eyeball daily will clear cataracts. Also was combined with SOD (superoxide dismutase) don't take this as a prescription, the book is widely available, please do your own research and make up your own mind.. - Original Message - From: shirley mailto:shirquin...@yahoo.com holder To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCataracts Please, how is the treatment done? Is is put into the eyes in its solid form and how long is it to stay in the eyes? Does the eyes need to be bandaged? and when the process/treatment is done, how do you remove the remaining crisco from the eyes? I was diagnosised with cateracts a couple of months ago and I want to try this procedure before my eyes get any worse and then I may need to have surgery to remove the cateracts. Thanks for any help. shirquinson PS MY MOM JUST HAD CATARACT SURGERY AND SHE DOES HAVE ARTERIORSCLEROTIC DISEASE (PARDON THE SPELLING) OR THE EQUIVALENT OF FAT DEPOSITS IN HER VEINS. THIS MIGHT THEREFORE BE SOUND REASONING, BUT NOT CORRECT TREATMENT.COMMENTS?? HE SAID: The guy who told me about linseed oil said that most cataracts were deposits of a cooking grease called CRISCO and any good oil would dissolve it. He said that when your body dumped CRISCO in your eye, all other dumps are full (like your chest) so you also have to do some cleaning in other places besides the eye. I still have some lumps in my chest but I got rid of most of them by doing kidney cleanses. The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Shirquinson _ Do you Yahoo!? SBC http://pa.yahoo.com/*http:/rd.yahoo.com/evt=1207/*http:/promo.yahoo.com /sbc/ Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
OK, completed the test. The result was, at least for me startling in it obviousness. See http://silver-lightning.com/freezing.jpg for a picture of the experiment. I took some high colloidal concentration CS and froze it. The picture shows what I got. It can be easily seen that the CS has concentrated into an egg shaped sphereoid in the center with virtually pure water around it as I had expected. Thus freezing will force the CS into a smaller area as expected. I am now thawing to see if it will return to normal, or something else will happen. Marshall Marshall Dudley wrote: OK, we have Bob saying that freezing does not hurt CS, and you saying it does, but claiming experimental proof. I will try freezing some and see the results. I will post the result back here shortly. Marshall Marv Hacker wrote: Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However do not freeze. Marshall Jeff wrote: I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the fridge. I read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive and about 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at this time. The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to think there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS in the fridge?
Mike, As for me, I give it to my kids if they start getting sick, but not all the time. Just when they get an illness. It is my thinking that the antibodies that you are talking about form to battle disease at the onset of the illness therefore the CS shouldn't have an effect on that and merely helps speed the healing process. However I do not hesitate to use it topically In fact I keep a spray bottle of CS on the counter for everyday use. -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS in the fridge? url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60685.html RE: CSCS in the fridge? From: Jeff Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:06:11 Sounds exactly like my kids, yucky face and all. Tastes like water to me. From: Frank Cindy Welch [mailto:sigma...@ruraltel.net] I like it better if its cold. It does reduce the aftertaste. My 13 years old daughter is the only one out of 5 (8 if you count the dogs) that objects to the aftertaste, and MAN does she!! Gaging noises, yucky face and heebe jeebies all at the same time! Frank Just out of curiosity, I wonder what list parents think about giving cs to children. When should it be given, and when is it not needed? As I understand it, a child's immune system needs infections so it can learn how to cope. For example, if a child does not get Chickenpox or other childhood diseases, they can turn deadly as an adult. The immune system may also get lazy. I am Canadian and grew up in a normal mold environment. Then I lived in Colorado for many years where there is little or no mold. When I returned to Canada, I slowly got sick but couldn't figure out why. Now I know something happened to turn off my immune system so it now overreacts to the mold toxins. Perhaps it was never exercised properly in Colorado and it was overwhelmed. I don't know for sure, and I have not been able to find a doctor who does. But if you give cs to a child, are you helping it or hurting it? I hope you don't think this is a troll where I toss a hot potatoe and sit back and enjoy the fun. I am too sick to be able to contribute more to this thread. But I would be very interested in any thoughtful responses, especially from Catherine. She must see these effects every day. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgreat stuff about cs davido
.ref below: just the saddness of it all and what it says about the state of our great society. davido On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:09:50 + Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com writes: David S Osborne 6/26/03 7:45 PM NCAHF News, November/December 1996 Volume 19, Issue #6 COLLOIDAL SILVER PRODUCTS WIDELY CONDEMNED Colloidal silver is being huckstered as a superior germ fighter by a number of promoters, including the wacky naturopath-veterinarian Joel Wallach. NCAHF reported that a permanent skin discoloration known as argyria can result from ingesting too much silver. and on and on and.. but what's your point? Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgreat stuff about cs davido
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:45:26 -0400, David S Osborne ide...@juno.com wrote: Quackwatch Home Page Quackwatch is not to be taken seriously. Refer to http://www.healthfreedomlaw.com/ Chuck Your silliness has been noted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the fridge?
let us know what happened after it thawed. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? OK, completed the test. The result was, at least for me startling in it obviousness. See http://silver-lightning.com/freezing.jpg for a picture of the experiment. I took some high colloidal concentration CS and froze it. The picture shows what I got. It can be easily seen that the CS has concentrated into an egg shaped sphereoid in the center with virtually pure water around it as I had expected. Thus freezing will force the CS into a smaller area as expected. I am now thawing to see if it will return to normal, or something else will happen. Marshall Marshall Dudley wrote: OK, we have Bob saying that freezing does not hurt CS, and you saying it does, but claiming experimental proof. I will try freezing some and see the results. I will post the result back here shortly. Marshall Marv Hacker wrote: Hi, If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to freeze it solid. Let me explain why: I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product that I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual product for at least two reasons: 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80 percent Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver. 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter. By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS Generators discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver Particles being the smaller portion. Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its clear plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its web site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been frozen in transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal clear, with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper Mesosilver has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had agglomerated and fallen to the bottom of the bottles. I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the bottom, that I will send upon request. Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and replaced each of the damaged shipments at no charge. http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle provides the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body, as compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is there for eliminating Silver Particles? Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently Bob has made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any problems. If that is the case then experiment trumps theory. Marshall Jeff wrote: Thanks Marshall, Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make ice cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are taking medicine. lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the fridge? I think it is inconclusive. It is certainly not necessary for properly made CS though. However do not freeze. Marshall Jeff wrote: I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the fridge. I read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive and about 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at this time. The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to think there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCataracts
Jack, My mistake. We buy our virgin cold-pressed olive oil from Eden Foods. I checked our refrigerator for the Flax Seed Oil. It is made by Nature's Live. The site URL is: http://www.natlife.com/ Once there, pick [Products], from the upper, left side of the screen. Then pick [Nutritional Oils], which is about two-thirds the way down the list on the left side of the screen. Then select the fifth item down the blue list on the left side of the screen. For some reason the URL does not change as you page through the site. Their Flax Seed Oil is very tasty :) Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:00 AM Subject: Re: CSCataracts Marv Hacker6/26/03 5:04 AM To purchase excellent food grade cold pressed flax seed oil, as well as others: Eden Foods 800.248.0320 517.456.7424 Fax: 517.456.7025 www.edenfoods.com Best regards, :) Marv * I couldn't locate it, perhaps if you were to post the URL for the particular page the flaxseed oil is located on... Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
