CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Blivics
Hello List,
Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver 
compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born fever kills 2.7 
million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends $300 million a 
year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the $700 million Roll 
Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two years has achieved little. UN 
Secretary General Kofi Annan is from Ghana, where successful tests have been 
completed, which in hospital trials shows that American Biotech and Clifton 
Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP arrests the effects of malaria. The two 
companies' representative met this week with WHO executives to discuss the 
possible use of ASAP via the World Health Organization. Malaria costs the 
African 
economy $12 billion a year.
Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is 
pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which Clifton owns 
approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the U.S. EPA and 
expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks.
The Testing
In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution® had to 
kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of bacteria found in 
the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so. There were 
approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series alone. 
American 
Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests.
The Hospital Approval
American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant approval 
within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell the highly 
effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of hospitals, clinics, 
rest homes, and other healthcare facilities worldwide. Management expects sales 
of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as January 2003. Said Keith 
Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important product for the market. Because 
this product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at killing even the MRSA 
super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide. Unlike other disinfectants, 
this product can be used in and around patients to kill bacteria with no 
adverse 
effect. It is so safe that it could be sprayed right on the skin or even 
consumed orally with no adverse consequences. 
Malaria Testing/Drug Approval
A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria is 
under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people who had been 
diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All 19 people 
(mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being fully recovered within 
just 
seven days. The latest malaria tests should be completed within the next 60 
days. With no reported failures, the human tests have gone so well that the 
official Food and Drug Board of Ghana has already approved the ASAP Solution® 
for 
drug registration. Recent West African trials also tested the product as a 
treatment for fungal skin infections, vaginal infections, urinary tract 
infections, tonsillitis, pharingitis, some sexually transmitted diseases, 
conjunctivitis, upper respiratory tract infections, nasal and sinus problems, 
etc. In 
almost every human case tested so far, full recovery was reached in just 1-7 
days.
 http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html
Michael


CSGold/Silver Ratio

2003-09-04 Thread Blivics
If it works make it unaffordable.
Another from Kitco
Some facts about the silver market:
Four billionaires that are heavily involved in the silver market, George 
Soros, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Larry Tisch.   
The Dow/Silver ratio bottomed in 1980 at 18 to 1, which means that it took 18 
ounces of silver to buy one share of the Dow. At the peak recently in silver 
it took an unbelievable 2,526 ounces of silver to buy one share of the Dow !!! 
 The Dow/Silver ratio has clearly turned down in favor of silver, but still 
stands at an incredible 1,835 to 1.  The average ratio over 100+ years at the 
bottom was around 80 to 1, so for silver investors this indicates tremendous 
upside.

Another ratio is the Gold/Silver ratio. It is currently at 73 to 1, meaning 
it takes 73 ounces of silver to purchase an ounce of gold.  This ratio bottomed 
in 1980 at 16 to 1. Richard Russell has stated publicly many times that he 
believes the price of gold is headed to $3,000/ounce. You can do the math, but 
one subscriber sent an email to Mr. Russell, which was published indicating 
that gold at $3,000 and a Gold/Silver ratio of 16 to 1 would put silver at 
$187.50/ounce.  No wonder Richard Russell has recently become bullish on 
silver 
saying, silver may be the cheapest thing around.  The Gold/Silver ratio 
historically has been at a ratio for many thousands of years of around 12 to 15 
to 
one.

The United States had literally billions of ounces of silver stockpiled after 
World War II. As the Chairman and CEO of Pan American Silver wrote the other 
day (which was published) the massive strategic stockpile which the United 
States possessed after World War II is now completely gone and stands at 
ZERO.  Comex inventories, which stood at about 330 million ounces in 1980, 
are now 
down to 106 million of which over 60 million ounces are already spoken for by 
investors.  Above ground stockpiles, which were around 2.5 to 3 billion, 
ounces in 1980 have been reduced according to all documented sources to only 
500 
million ounces of above ground stockpiles. 

We have been running documented deficits for over 14 years and this is why 
these stockpiles have been disappearing and are near crisis levels.  This 
silver 
is consumed and lost forever. Just one example of this is when your computer 
keyboard ends up in the dump eventually, the 12 cents or so of silver is not 
economically feasible to retrieve, so it is lost forever and will never be 
recovered. There are many other examples, which I will not go into, you get the 
idea.

Another ratio is the Housing/Silver ratio, which over the last 100+ years 
peaks at around 20,000 and bottoms at an average of 5,000 (under 2,000 in 
1980).  
What that means is that at the peaks it typically takes 20,000 ounces to 
purchase a median priced home. Today the average home purchased in silver 
stands 
at an amazing level of around 50,000, meaning it takes around 50,000 ounces 
of silver to purchase the median priced home !!!

The lag times on new mining for silver is around 5 years so it won't matter 
if the price spikes significantly because it takes an enormous amount of time 
to get new mining projects under way. Any increase of silver mining on existing 
projects would negligible and not worth discussing in my opinion.  
A final point is silver just broke out above a twenty year sloping downtrend 
line from the high of 1982 which touched the Buffett peak of 1998 and 
continued down to the highs of 2002 and early 2003.  This is a major breakout 
for 
silver and one that many have been waiting to see before getting long silver.

Those are the facts and those are the types of things I have always looked at 
as a professional investor/trader in order to make profit. 

It is quite obvious to me that those ratios are way out of whack and will 
cycle back down the other way (where they have typically bottomed) and I will 
be 
moving the portion of my portfolio allocated to silver investing out of silver 
at that time and into some other types of investments which will be unloved 
(out of favor) and which the ratios will favor at that time (such as real 
estate and stocks).  
In summary, the big picture on silver exposes that the days of capping the 
price of silver at $5.00 may soon be over.  More importantly digital is not 
killing conventional photography, just the opposite, silver usage in 
conventional 
photography continues to expand as does the worldwide market for conventional 
photography.  Finally, I believe silver is way undervalued and is in the 
beginning stages of a massive bull market!
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Morgan/july292003.html
Michael
 


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CSRepetitive Bouncebacks with Virus Notice from ISP

2003-09-04 Thread Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there, I was dropped from the list a  few months ago due to this 
problem.  Is there a place I can read the list without receiving it as 
email ?  I asked a question and would like to see the answer.  Please 
HELP.  Thanks, LC



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Re: CSRepetitive Bouncebacks with Virus Notice from ISP

2003-09-04 Thread d.linen


Linda Kaye Coombs wrote:
 
 Hi there, I was dropped from the list a  few months ago due to this
 problem.  Is there a place I can read the list without receiving it as
 email ?  I asked a question and would like to see the answer.  Please
 HELP.  Thanks, LC

Is this the only list you are on? I get those messages from ev1 from
several lists I'm on. You could go to Eskimo to read them, I suppose.

DL


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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is odd they could get their CS disinfectant approved. We tried in
1999, and were unsuccessful. A disinfectant must kill everything,
including spores, within a short timeframe.  CS does not touch spores
without germinating them, and germinating them takes longer than the
amount of time a disinfectant must work to meet the requirements.

I wonder if they changed the requirements, or if some money changes
hands somewhere.

Marshall

bliv...@aol.com wrote:



 Hello List,

 Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal
 silver compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born
 fever kills 2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The
 world spends $300 million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress
 report on the $700 million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over
 the past two years has achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi
 Annan is from Ghana, where successful tests have been completed, which
 in hospital trials shows that American Biotech and Clifton Mining's
 colloidal silver product ASAP arrests the effects of malaria. The two
 companies' representative met this week with WHO executives to discuss
 the possible use of ASAP via the World Health Organization. Malaria
 costs the African economy $12 billion a year.

 Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
 Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
 is pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which
 Clifton owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with
 the U.S. EPA and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few
 weeks.

 The Testing

 In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution®
 had to kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of
 bacteria found in the United States within minutes, and it proved able
 to do so. There were approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in
 just one series alone. American Biotech's product was able to pass all
 the tests.

 The Hospital Approval

 American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant
 approval within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door
 to sell the highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands
 of hospitals, clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities
 worldwide. Management expects sales of the new disinfectant to
 possibly begin as soon as January 2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P.,
 This will be a very important product for the market. Because this
 product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at killing even the MRSA
 super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide. Unlike other
 disinfectants, this product can be used in and around patients to kill
 bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
 sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
 consequences.

 Malaria Testing/Drug Approval

 A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria
 is under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people
 who had been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP
 Solution. All 19 people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors
 as being fully recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria
 tests should be completed within the next 60 days. With no reported
 failures, the human tests have gone so well that the official Food and
 Drug Board of Ghana has already approved the ASAP Solution® for drug
 registration. Recent West African trials also tested the product as a
 treatment for fungal skin infections, vaginal infections, urinary
 tract infections, tonsillitis, pharingitis, some sexually transmitted
 diseases, conjunctivitis, upper respiratory tract infections, nasal
 and sinus problems, etc. In almost every human case tested so far,
 full recovery was reached in just 1-7 days.

  http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html

 Michael








Re: CSHome-made CS

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
One has to look at quantities.  The amount of AgNO3 produced by a low voltage
system using distilled water should be trivial. Don't forget that the medical
community used AgNO3 for medicine for decades, and they did not indicate
anything was wrong with it then. It is still used in newborn babies' eyes in
many hospitals worldwide.  The amount the baby receives is far more than one
would ever get from taking any CS made by the LVDC method.

Chck the msds on it http://www.hummelcroton.com/agno3_m.html

RTECS Number:VW4725000
   Routes of Exposure:Eye contact. Ingestion. Inhalation. Skin
contact.
   Toxicity Data: ORAL LD50: 50 mg/Kg(orl-mus)
   Chronic Toxic Effects: Overexposure to silver may cause
argyria.
   Acute Toxic Effects:Irritating to the skin and eyes on
contact. Inhalation will cause irritation to the lungs
  and mucus membrane. Irritation to the eyes will
cause watering and redness.
  Reddening, scaling, and itching are characteristics
of skin inflammation. Follow safe
  industrial hygiene practices and always wear
protective equipment when handling this
  compound.
Thus the only cronic effect is argyria, and we all know how much silver that
takes.  The LD50 is 40mg/Kg, which would be 5 grams of it for a 100 KG
person.  At 1 ppm, that would require 5,000 liters of CS.  The water would
kill you first.

Marshall


Warren Jefferson wrote:

   Hello All,

 I thought you might like to know what Stephen Quinto  of
 natural-immunogencis.com thinks about home made CS. He wrote me the
 following after reading the manuscript for my upcoming book Colloidal
 Silver Today due out in Oct. 03.  I think this issue of AgNO3 should be
 addressed . There are a lot of folks making CS at home.  Are we at risk?
 Comments?

 We do not really condone the home-making of CS.  One of the contaminants
 (AgNO3) is toxic and cumulative in the human body. The equipment necessary
 to avoid this is generally beyond the ability of the maker. And the burden
 of so much elemental silver that is a certainty from such products dilutes
 the efforts the body needs to deal with healing issues.

 Warren

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CSHome-made CS

2003-09-04 Thread Warren Jefferson

 Hello All,

I thought you might like to know what Stephen Quinto  of 
natural-immunogencis.com thinks about home made CS. He wrote me the 
following after reading the manuscript for my upcoming book Colloidal 
Silver Today due out in Oct. 03.  I think this issue of AgNO3 should be 
addressed . There are a lot of folks making CS at home.  Are we at risk? 
Comments?


We do not really condone the home-making of CS.  One of the contaminants
(AgNO3) is toxic and cumulative in the human body. The equipment necessary
to avoid this is generally beyond the ability of the maker. And the burden
of so much elemental silver that is a certainty from such products dilutes
the efforts the body needs to deal with healing issues.

Warren



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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
I spoke with the president of American Biotech.  Their patent on making
the silver is at:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6214299.WKU.OS=PN/6214299RS=PN/6214299

It looks basically like the SilverPro method with one electrode
submerged, and with stirring.

He claims that the CS thus made will not kill spores (as we determined),
but that they have some type of secret process that then converts the
silver particles to be much more effective, and that after this process
that takes hours, it will kill spores without having to germinate them.

They add nothing to the CS, it is pure water and silver.

Marshall

bliv...@aol.com wrote:



 Hello List,

 Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal
 silver compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born
 fever kills 2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The
 world spends $300 million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress
 report on the $700 million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over
 the past two years has achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi
 Annan is from Ghana, where successful tests have been completed, which
 in hospital trials shows that American Biotech and Clifton Mining's
 colloidal silver product ASAP arrests the effects of malaria. The two
 companies' representative met this week with WHO executives to discuss
 the possible use of ASAP via the World Health Organization. Malaria
 costs the African economy $12 billion a year.

 Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
 Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
 is pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which
 Clifton owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with
 the U.S. EPA and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few
 weeks.

 The Testing

 In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution®
 had to kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of
 bacteria found in the United States within minutes, and it proved able
 to do so. There were approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in
 just one series alone. American Biotech's product was able to pass all
 the tests.

 The Hospital Approval

 American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant
 approval within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door
 to sell the highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands
 of hospitals, clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities
 worldwide. Management expects sales of the new disinfectant to
 possibly begin as soon as January 2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P.,
 This will be a very important product for the market. Because this
 product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at killing even the MRSA
 super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide. Unlike other
 disinfectants, this product can be used in and around patients to kill
 bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
 sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
 consequences.

 Malaria Testing/Drug Approval

 A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria
 is under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people
 who had been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP
 Solution. All 19 people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors
 as being fully recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria
 tests should be completed within the next 60 days. With no reported
 failures, the human tests have gone so well that the official Food and
 Drug Board of Ghana has already approved the ASAP Solution® for drug
 registration. Recent West African trials also tested the product as a
 treatment for fungal skin infections, vaginal infections, urinary
 tract infections, tonsillitis, pharingitis, some sexually transmitted
 diseases, conjunctivitis, upper respiratory tract infections, nasal
 and sinus problems, etc. In almost every human case tested so far,
 full recovery was reached in just 1-7 days.

  http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html

 Michael








Re: CSHome-made CS

2003-09-04 Thread d.linen
How does he figure we are making silver nitrate?

Warren Jefferson wrote:
 
   Hello All,
 
 I thought you might like to know what Stephen Quinto  of
 natural-immunogencis.com thinks about home made CS. He wrote me the
 following after reading the manuscript for my upcoming book Colloidal
 Silver Today due out in Oct. 03.  I think this issue of AgNO3 should be
 addressed . There are a lot of folks making CS at home.  Are we at risk?
 Comments?
 
 We do not really condone the home-making of CS.  One of the contaminants
 (AgNO3) is toxic and cumulative in the human body. The equipment necessary
 to avoid this is generally beyond the ability of the maker. And the burden
 of so much elemental silver that is a certainty from such products dilutes
 the efforts the body needs to deal with healing issues.
 
 Warren
 
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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
According to them they use a process after the CS is made that puts a charge on
the particles.  Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

Marshall

Frank Key wrote:

 ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks
 make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver
 particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC
 produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and DC
 produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.

 From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their concentration at
 the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think and it
 is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve. They
 also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in the
 10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions,
 although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger
 particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much larger
 according to our lab analysis.

 For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown here:
  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html

 frank key

 - Original Message -
 From: bliv...@aol.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
 Subject: CSA Good Read

 Hello List,
 Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver
 compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born fever kills
 2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends $300
 million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the $700
 million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two years has
 achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is from Ghana, where
 successful tests have been completed, which in hospital trials shows that
 American Biotech and Clifton Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP arrests
 the effects of malaria. The two companies' representative met this week with
 WHO executives to discuss the possible use of ASAP via the World Health
 Organization. Malaria costs the African economy $12 billion a year.
 Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
 Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is
 pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which Clifton
 owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the U.S. EPA
 and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks.
 The Testing
 In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution® had to
 kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of bacteria found
 in the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so. There were
 approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series alone.
 American Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests.
 The Hospital Approval
 American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant approval
 within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell the
 highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of hospitals,
 clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities worldwide. Management
 expects sales of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as January
 2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important product for
 the market. Because this product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at
 killing even the MRSA super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide.
 Unlike other disinfectants, this product can be used in and around patients
 to kill bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
 sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
 consequences.
 Malaria Testing/Drug Approval
 A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria is
 under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people who had
 been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All 19
 people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being fully
 recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria tests should be
 completed within the next 60 days. With no reported failures, the human
 tests have gone so well that the official Food and Drug Board of Ghana has
 already approved the ASAP Solution® for drug registration. Recent West
 African trials also tested the product as a treatment for fungal skin
 infections, vaginal infections, urinary tract infections, tonsillitis,
 pharingitis, some sexually transmitted diseases, conjunctivitis, upper
 respiratory tract infections, nasal and sinus problems, etc. In almost every
 human case tested so far, full recovery was reached in just 1-7 days.
  http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html
 Michael

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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Frank Key
ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks
make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver
particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC
produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and DC
produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.

From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their concentration at
the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think and it
is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve. They
also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in the
10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions,
although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger
particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much larger
according to our lab analysis.

For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown here:
 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html


frank key






- Original Message - 
From: bliv...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: CSA Good Read


Hello List,
Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver
compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born fever kills
2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends $300
million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the $700
million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two years has
achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is from Ghana, where
successful tests have been completed, which in hospital trials shows that
American Biotech and Clifton Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP arrests
the effects of malaria. The two companies' representative met this week with
WHO executives to discuss the possible use of ASAP via the World Health
Organization. Malaria costs the African economy $12 billion a year.
Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is
pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which Clifton
owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the U.S. EPA
and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks.
The Testing
In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution® had to
kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of bacteria found
in the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so. There were
approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series alone.
American Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests.
The Hospital Approval
American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant approval
within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell the
highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of hospitals,
clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities worldwide. Management
expects sales of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as January
2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important product for
the market. Because this product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at
killing even the MRSA super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide.
Unlike other disinfectants, this product can be used in and around patients
to kill bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
consequences.
Malaria Testing/Drug Approval
A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria is
under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people who had
been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All 19
people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being fully
recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria tests should be
completed within the next 60 days. With no reported failures, the human
tests have gone so well that the official Food and Drug Board of Ghana has
already approved the ASAP Solution® for drug registration. Recent West
African trials also tested the product as a treatment for fungal skin
infections, vaginal infections, urinary tract infections, tonsillitis,
pharingitis, some sexually transmitted diseases, conjunctivitis, upper
respiratory tract infections, nasal and sinus problems, etc. In almost every
human case tested so far, full recovery was reached in just 1-7 days.
 http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html
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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
Interesing thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if I
could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.

Really strange that the FDA says that is is nontoxic enough for people to
ingest, jet the epa thinks it may be too toxic to put into the enviornment.

Marshall

David S Osborne wrote:

 http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsh
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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
But the kicker is that their product kills spores in under 3 minutes according
to tests.  Normal CS will not touch spores. They claim that they use a process
that takes hours to convert the normal HVAC CS to a different form that is much
more effective.

Has anyone done any electron microscope studies of their clusters?

Marshall

Jason Eaton wrote:

 Greetings, all:

 From what I know about ASAP silver, I would definately concur with Frank's
 exposition.

 Antibacterial time kill studies have demonstrated that ASAP silver is an
 effective silver, but certainly not the best ionic silver on the market.  I
 do, however, like the folks at ASAP, because they do alot of RD which, in
 an indirect manner, helps us all.  Point and case is the initial BYU
 studies.

 Best Regards,

 Jason

 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Key fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:26 AM
 Subject: Re: CSA Good Read

  ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks
  make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver
  particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC
  produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and DC
  produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.
 
  From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their concentration
 at
  the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think and
 it
  is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve.
 They
  also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in the
  10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions,
  although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger
  particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much larger
  according to our lab analysis.
 
  For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown
 here:
   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
 
 
  frank key
 
 
  Hello List,
  Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver
  compound that arrests the effects of malaria.

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Re: CSHome-made CS

2003-09-04 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Did he ever hear of a simple fish tank air bubblier to break the 
nitrogen, and mix the solution ?

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Warren Jefferson wrote:


 Hello All,

I thought you might like to know what Stephen Quinto  of 
natural-immunogencis.com thinks about home made CS. He wrote me the 
following after reading the manuscript for my upcoming book Colloidal 
Silver Today due out in Oct. 03.  I think this issue of AgNO3 should 
be addressed . There are a lot of folks making CS at home.  Are we at 
risk? Comments?


We do not really condone the home-making of CS.  One of the contaminants
(AgNO3) is toxic and cumulative in the human body. The equipment 
necessary
to avoid this is generally beyond the ability of the maker. And the 
burden
of so much elemental silver that is a certainty from such products 
dilutes

the efforts the body needs to deal with healing issues.

Warren



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CSRobert Berger Test Offer/Address please

2003-09-04 Thread Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there Mr. Berger, Thank you for your very kind offer.  Don't have your 
email address as my server won't deliver the digest for some unknown reason 
[ev1], don't have problem with other lists.  The escribe site is great, but 
does not show [or I could not find the individual addresses.  I need your 
mailing address, please, to send sample. BTW, does it benefit [or should 
you even do it] for a fish tank bubbler in my HVAC ?  Thanks, LC



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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Jason Eaton
Greetings, all:

From what I know about ASAP silver, I would definately concur with Frank's
exposition.

Antibacterial time kill studies have demonstrated that ASAP silver is an
effective silver, but certainly not the best ionic silver on the market.  I
do, however, like the folks at ASAP, because they do alot of RD which, in
an indirect manner, helps us all.  Point and case is the initial BYU
studies.

Best Regards,

Jason

- Original Message -
From: Frank Key fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: CSA Good Read


 ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks
 make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver
 particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC
 produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and DC
 produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.

 From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their concentration
at
 the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think and
it
 is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve.
They
 also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in the
 10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions,
 although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger
 particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much larger
 according to our lab analysis.

 For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown
here:
  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html


 frank key


 Hello List,
 Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver
 compound that arrests the effects of malaria.


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CSUnidentified subject!

2003-09-04 Thread David S Osborne
http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsh
eet_072503.htm


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RE: CSUnidentified subject!

2003-09-04 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Marshall,
Thanks for all that You, Mike, Jason, Herx  others on this site do to
increase our knowledge and prepare us to help others! Your story is very
revealing about the bureaucratic monstrosity in which we attempt to
operate--PITY! Despite these problems, God has blessed us so richly in this
wonderful country!
Let's resolve to continue to lead and point out the better ways so we can
continue to help those less fortunate. Hooray for the wonderful blessing of
CS! May each of us strive to improve on our products to make them more
effective for everyone.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!


Interesing thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if I
could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.

Really strange that the FDA says that is is nontoxic enough for people to
ingest, jet the epa thinks it may be too toxic to put into the enviornment.

Marshall

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 http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsh
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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Frank Key
Marshall wrote:

 Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

Yes, the zeta potential is part of the standard test we do. Here are links
to the plots:

ASAP 10 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr05/zeta.pdf

ASAP 22 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr06/zeta.pdf

frank key



- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: CSA Good Read


 According to them they use a process after the CS is made that puts a
charge on
 the particles.  Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

 Marshall

 Frank Key wrote:

  ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks
  make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver
  particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC
  produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and
DC
  produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.
 
  From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their
concentration at
  the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think
and it
  is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve.
They
  also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in
the
  10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions,
  although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger
  particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much
larger
  according to our lab analysis.
 
  For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown
here:
   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
 
  frank key
 
  - Original Message -
  From: bliv...@aol.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
  Subject: CSA Good Read
 
  Hello List,
  Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal
silver
  compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born fever
kills
  2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends
$300
  million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the $700
  million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two years has
  achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is from Ghana, where
  successful tests have been completed, which in hospital trials shows
that
  American Biotech and Clifton Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP
arrests
  the effects of malaria. The two companies' representative met this week
with
  WHO executives to discuss the possible use of ASAP via the World Health
  Organization. Malaria costs the African economy $12 billion a year.
  Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN)
  Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is
  pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which
Clifton
  owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the U.S.
EPA
  and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks.
  The Testing
  In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP Solution® had
to
  kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of bacteria
found
  in the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so. There
were
  approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series alone.
  American Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests.
  The Hospital Approval
  American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant
approval
  within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell the
  highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of hospitals,
  clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities worldwide.
Management
  expects sales of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as
January
  2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important product
for
  the market. Because this product is non-toxic and yet highly effective
at
  killing even the MRSA super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide.
  Unlike other disinfectants, this product can be used in and around
patients
  to kill bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
  sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
  consequences.
  Malaria Testing/Drug Approval
  A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria
is
  under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people who
had
  been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All 19
  people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being fully
  recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria tests should be
  completed within the next 60 days. With no reported failures, the human
  tests have gone so well that the official Food and Drug Board of Ghana
has
  already approved the ASAP Solution® for drug registration. Recent West
  African trials also tested the product as a treatment for fungal skin
 

CSLM334 constant current regulator for AC

2003-09-04 Thread Matthew McCann, PE
The LM334 does a great job in
regulating DC. But it also can be
used in pairs to produce a
regulated current AC.

I put two LM334 three-terminal
devices in parallel but in opposite
senses, and set their currents
with a 75 ohm set-resistor on
each. 

The resulting sub-circuit is a
two-terminal device.

I put this in series with the
silver electrodes and a 15VAC
output used to power toy trains.

The regulated current in each
branch of the LM334 pair can
be monitored by a micro-ammeter.
But an oscilloscope could be used
to monitor the constant currents
in both directions.

My pair of LM334s levellled off
at 300 micro-amperes.
The CS that resulted was very
clear and more tasteless than
CS brewed with DC constant current.
The silver electrodes were cleaner
too.

matt

Re: CSHome-made CS

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Tel,

A fish bubblier adds more nitrogen to the DW, and that is why I have always
objected to its use! Mechanical stirring is far better.

The way that Stephen Quinto solves the NO3 problem is to distill, transport,
and make CS under an Argon blanket. We could vacuum out gas standard DW and
then transport and brew under Argon, but it is a lot of trouble.

In my testing of CS for people I generally find about 1 ppm in most LVDC CS.

Any HVAC system makes higher levels of NO3. I have tried them all !!

I believe that Marshall is correct in his analysis of the subject. For what
little we use the probability of getting argyria is not worth considering.

Ole Bob




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Re: CSRobert Berger Test Offer/Address please

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Linda,

My personal reaction to bubbliers is negative. I do not stir my HVAC ARC
process, but if yours is not an arc process then mechanical stirring may help.

I would like to know about your HVAC setup. Is it a commercial unit?
1. Are both electrodes in the DW?
2. Is one electrode in the DW and the other slightly above the DW so that a
cone of water forms when the power is applied?
3. Are both electrodes slightly above the water so that two cones form?
4. Is one electrode in the DW and the other about 3/8 above the DW so that an
arc forms in the air?

Please send me two samples, one of the four year old, and a recently made one.

I need about 2 ounces. Wash the containers with hot water and NO soap or
detergent, rinse with DW and  with the CS that you will send for test.

This should answer a lot of questions on the list.

Send to:

System Tech Engineering
Robert L. Berger
12303 E. 89 th St.
Kansas City, MO 64138-5150

Ole Bob





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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Marshall,

How could I test my HVAC CS for killing spores?

Ole Bob

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 But the kicker is that their product kills spores in under 3 minutes according
 to tests.  Normal CS will not touch spores. They claim that they use a process
 that takes hours to convert the normal HVAC CS to a different form that is 
 much
 more effective.


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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Frank,

When you did a test (October 20,2001) of the CS that Roger Altman and I were
giving away for the double blind study I only received size distribution. Did
you by any chance do a zeta potential on it? If so how does it compare to the
ASAP material?

Ole Bob

Frank Key wrote:

 Marshall wrote:

  Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

 Yes, the zeta potential is part of the standard test we do. Here are links
 to the plots:

 ASAP 10 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr05/zeta.pdf

 ASAP 22 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr06/zeta.pdf

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Re: CSLM334 constant current regulator for AC

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Mat.

I just received a supply of the LM334Z and will set up your protocol so
that I can duplicate what you have. Then I will report to the list what
I find.

Need time of brew, amount of DW, and electrode spacing. did you use
stirring?

Ole Bob

 Matthew McCann, PE wrote:

 The LM334 does a great job inregulating DC. But it also can beused in
 pairs to produce aregulated current AC. I put two LM334
 three-terminaldevices in parallel but in oppositesenses, and set their
 currentswith a 75 ohm set-resistor oneach.

 The resulting sub-circuit is atwo-terminal device. I put this in
 series with thesilver electrodes and a 15VACoutput used to power toy
 trains. The regulated current in eachbranch of the LM334 pair canbe
 monitored by a micro-ammeter.But an oscilloscope could be usedto
 monitor the constant currentsin both directions. My pair of LM334s
 levellled offat 300 micro-amperes.The CS that resulted was veryclear
 and more tasteless thanCS brewed with DC constant current.The silver
 electrodes were cleanertoo. matt


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Re: CSA Good Read

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Ya'all,

Can anyone send me a sample of the ASAP CS?

I would like to check it for NO and NO3, I have never seen a sample of HVAC that
does not have significant levels of NO3.

To get under about 3 PPM of NO3 is no small task.

Ole Bob




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CSLM334 constant current regulator for AC

2003-09-04 Thread Matthew McCann, PE
Hi, Ol' Bob!

The electrode spacing was 3 inches.
The volume of DW was 2 liters.
Stirring was done by air bubbler.
Run time was 50 hours. No starter added.

Additional details.

I use a spaghetti storage jar for
the reaction vessel. It is tall, narrow
and inexpensive glass. I also use
glass tubing in the vessel except
for a minimal length of Tygon
tubing as a coupler to the stone.

The electrodes are Canadian
. Maples with small holes
drilled through near the edge to
receive hooks shaped from
.999 silver wire that hang from
the lip of the jar.

matt

Re: CSRepetitive Bouncebacks with Virus Notice from ISP

2003-09-04 Thread M. G. Devour
 Hi there, I was dropped from the list a  few months ago due to this
 problem.  Is there a place I can read the list without receiving it as
 email ?  I asked a question and would like to see the answer.  Please
 HELP.  Thanks, LC

Linda and list,

It is common these days to get warnings from your ISP that you have 
received mail they have blocked due to virus infection. 

These viruses, trojans and worms are designed to spread themselves 
using stealth techniques that include *FORGING* the appearance of a 
legitimate message by grabbing addresses, subject lines, and sometimes 
parts of the text from a random message on the hard drive of the 
infected machine.

That's one reason Linda could have gotten that message from her ISP. If 
any of our several hundred subscribers is infected, their machine could 
have faked a digest message and tried to send it to her and anybody 
else whose address can be found on the machine's hard drive.

I just manually scanned the digest that ev1.net claimed contained a 
virus and it is *clean.* There are no suspicious attachments, scripts, 
or anything else I can detect, except the usual lazy HTML encoded mail 
people insist on sending instead of plain text.

If ev1.net is consistently rejecting the *REAL* silver-digest, then the 
best way to solve the problem is either to get their tech support 
people to tweak the filters to let it through, or to sign up for the 
individual e-mail version of the list.

Linda, I can see you're using a version of Eudora. I *know* that Eudora 
has a filtering feature that would let you sort your incoming silver-
list mail to its own folder. Learning how to use it would simplify all 
your mailing list related activities.

There's nothing to be gained by not getting the list as e-mail, as the 
*LIST* HAS NOT SENT ANY INFECTED MESSAGES as far as I can tell from 
here, and isn't likely to. cross fingers and knock on wood  

I've got filters set up to block mail containing most suspicious 
attachments from being relayed, plus most of the viruses are too big to 
pass the list message size limit. So I see them here as list owner, but 
you don't.  

Still, we do have a web archive which can be viewed at:

   http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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RE: CSA Good ReadQuestion about malaia pathogen

2003-09-04 Thread James Holmes
Does the causative organism of Malaria have a spore form?  I thought it was
a protozoan. Don't have time to research it now.
 
JOH

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSA Good Read


I spoke with the president of American Biotech.  Their patent on making the
silver is at: 

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFamp;d=PAL
Lamp;p=1amp;u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmamp;r=1amp;f=Gamp;l=50amp;s1=621429
9.WKU.amp;OS=PN/6214299amp;RS=PN/6214299
Sect2=HITOFFamp;d=PALLamp;p=1amp;u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmamp;r=1amp;f=G
amp;l=50amp;s1=6214299.WKU.amp;OS=PN/6214299amp;RS=PN/6214299 


It looks basically like the SilverPro method with one electrode submerged,
and with stirring. 


He claims that the CS thus made will not kill spores (as we determined), but
that they have some type of secret process that then converts the silver
particles to be much more effective, and that after this process that takes
hours, it will kill spores without having to germinate them. 


They add nothing to the CS, it is pure water and silver. 


Marshall 


bliv...@aol.com wrote: 


  

Hello List, 


Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver
compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born fever kills
2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends $300
million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the $700
million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two years has
achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is from Ghana, where
successful tests have been completed, which in hospital trials shows that
American Biotech and Clifton Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP arrests
the effects of malaria. The two companies' representative met this week with
WHO executives to discuss the possible use of ASAP via the World Health
Organization. Malaria costs the African economy $12 billion a year. 


Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) 
Alpine, Utah: November 11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is
pleased to announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which Clifton
owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the U.S. EPA
and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks. 


The Testing 


In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP SolutionR had to
kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of bacteria found
in the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so. There were
approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series alone.
American Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests. 


The Hospital Approval 


American Biotech Labs expects to get the full hospital disinfectant approval
within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell the
highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of hospitals,
clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities worldwide. Management
expects sales of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as January
2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important product for
the market. Because this product is non-toxic and yet highly effective at
killing even the MRSA super bacteria, we expect sales to boom worldwide.
Unlike other disinfectants, this product can be used in and around patients
to kill bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could be
sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse
consequences. 


Malaria Testing/Drug Approval 


A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria is
under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people who had
been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All 19
people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being fully
recovered within just seven days. The latest malaria tests should be
completed within the next 60 days. With no reported failures, the human
tests have gone so well that the official Food and Drug Board of Ghana has
already approved the ASAP SolutionR for drug registration. Recent West
African trials also tested the product as a treatment for fungal skin
infections, vaginal infections, urinary tract infections, tonsillitis,
pharingitis, some sexually transmitted diseases, conjunctivitis, upper
respiratory tract infections, nasal and sinus problems, etc. In almost every
human case tested so far, full recovery was reached in just 1-7 days. 


 http://www.kitco.com/ind/Chapman/nov122002.html 


Michael 
  

  
  
  
  
  



RE: CSA Good ReadHas Frank et al tested CSPro for particle size?

2003-09-04 Thread James Holmes
Frank, et al

Frank, have you ever tested CSPro's medium voltage pulse phasic  product
for particle size?  

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSA Good Read



Marshall wrote:

 Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

Yes, the zeta potential is part of the standard test we do. Here are links
to the plots:

ASAP 10 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr05/zeta.pdf

ASAP 22 PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr06/zeta.pdf

frank key



- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: CSA Good Read


 According to them they use a process after the CS is made that puts a
charge on
 the particles.  Did you do any zeta measurements on their product?

 Marshall

 Frank Key wrote:

  ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many
  folks make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% 
  silver particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most 
  other HVAC produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver 
  solutions, both AC and
DC
  produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic.
 
  From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their
concentration at
  the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would
  think
and it
  is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to
  achieve.
They
  also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size
  in
the
  10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC
  solutions, although many other commercially produced HVAC solution 
  have larger particles.  Most DC produced solutions have particles 
  that are much
larger
  according to our lab analysis.
 
  For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports
  shown
here:
   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
 
  frank key
 
  - Original Message -
  From: bliv...@aol.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
  Subject: CSA Good Read
 
  Hello List,
  Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal
silver
  compound that arrests the effects of malaria. The mosquito-born
  fever
kills
  2.7 million people a year, mostly African children. The world spends
$300
  million a year on malaria control and a WHO progress report on the
  $700 million Roll Back Malaria campaign conducted over the past two 
  years has achieved little. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is from 
  Ghana, where successful tests have been completed, which in hospital 
  trials shows
that
  American Biotech and Clifton Mining's colloidal silver product ASAP
arrests
  the effects of malaria. The two companies' representative met this
  week
with
  WHO executives to discuss the possible use of ASAP via the World
  Health Organization. Malaria costs the African economy $12 billion a 
  year. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) Alpine, Utah: November 
  11th, 2002. Clifton Mining Company (OTC: CFTN) is pleased to 
  announce that American Biotech Labs, a company in which
Clifton
  owns approximately 30% has finished the approval process with the
  U.S.
EPA
  and expects to get full hospital approval in the next few weeks. The
  Testing In the test work for the EPA hospital approval, the ASAP 
  SolutionR had
to
  kill hundreds of thousands of some of the deadliest types of
  bacteria
found
  in the United States within minutes, and it proved able to do so.
  There
were
  approximately 1600 individual bacterial tests in just one series
  alone. American Biotech's product was able to pass all the tests. 
  The Hospital Approval American Biotech Labs expects to get the full 
  hospital disinfectant
approval
  within the next 15-45 days. The approval will open the door to sell
  the highly effective, yet non-toxic disinfectant to thousands of 
  hospitals, clinics, rest homes, and other healthcare facilities 
  worldwide.
Management
  expects sales of the new disinfectant to possibly begin as soon as
January
  2003. Said Keith Moeller, V.P., This will be a very important
  product
for
  the market. Because this product is non-toxic and yet highly
  effective
at
  killing even the MRSA super bacteria, we expect sales to boom
  worldwide. Unlike other disinfectants, this product can be used in 
  and around
patients
  to kill bacteria with no adverse effect. It is so safe that it could
  be sprayed right on the skin or even consumed orally with no adverse 
  consequences. Malaria Testing/Drug Approval
  A new human trial specifically testing ASAP's effectiveness on malaria
is
  under way in Ghana, West Africa. In the first two tests, 19 people
  who
had
  been diagnosed with malaria were treated with the ASAP Solution. All
  19 people (mostly children) were reported by the doctors as being 
  fully recovered within 

CSsilver digest and viruses- Mike?

2003-09-04 Thread Reid Harvey
Mike,
Isn't it true that the digest is sent from eskimo, and that this method
of receiving the list is virus free?
Reid

LC said:
Hi there, I was dropped from the list a  few months ago due to this
problem.  Is there a place I can read the list without receiving it as
email ?  I asked a question and would like to see the answer.  Please
HELP.  Thanks, LC



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CSRe: Repetitive Bouncebacks with Virus Notice from ISP

2003-09-04 Thread jrowland
 Is there a place I can read the list without receiving it as
 email ?---LC
Our Archive website shows the silver-list in pretty much
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