Re: CSAny OZ members - help

[Phinneas]

-Original Message-
From: MargaretB marte...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSAny OZ members - help


John Rigby wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within
a
 hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland
Sunshine
 Coast - 100k North of Brisbane.

Hi John,
You can get  Moores distilled water in any Woolworths store, and it
is
good, measuring 0.4 with my PWT. The price is around $3 for 5 lt.
Hope that this helps.
MargaretB


In Sydney, Coles sell Glendale DW, which has less
than 5ppm total dissolved solids.  Should also be available
up North, where you are, John.  You could also try their
website www.glendalechemicals.com

Regards,
Phinneas




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Re: CSAny OZ members - help

[Phinneas]

-Original Message-
From: MargaretB marte...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSAny OZ members - help


John Rigby wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within
a
 hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland
Sunshine
 Coast - 100k North of Brisbane.

Hi John,
You can get  Moores distilled water in any Woolworths store, and it
is
good, measuring 0.4 with my PWT. 

0.4 would equal about 8ppm dissolved solids?  Or am I wrong?
BTW  -- what would be the highest acceptable ppm of solids,
for making CS?

Regards,
Phinneas



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Re: CSAny OZ members - help

[Ode Coyote]

  Sounds like you have a handy neighbor who can help.

 Rain and dew is distilled water.  Tends to pick up airborne crud, but it
can work.

Ode

At 01:34 PM 4/9/2004 +1000, you wrote:
Hi folks,

Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a 
hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine 
Coast - 100k North of Brisbane.

I am looking at  importing from USA a  domestic steam distiller ($99)  but 
incredibly they want $85 to send it!
My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner.  :-)

I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial - 
but looks like I might have no choice.

Cheers,
Himagain. 



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Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[M. G. Devour]

Hi folks,

I think it would be best if we continued discussion of Dr. Jon aka 
Stephen Fason on the Off Topic List. (See link at bottom of message.)

 HEADLINE: 'TAX CHEAT' SENTENCED TO PRISON

As far as I'm concerned, being a tax cheat is no great dishonor. The 
only reason I pay taxes is because if I don't, people with guns will 
come and arrest me, take my home, and murder me where I stand if I dare 
to resist their aggression.

If he's been defrauding people, that's another thing, certainly. I 
don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the IRS, however. grin

See you over on the Off Topic List, folks!

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CSAny OZ members - help

[Medwith, Robert]

Build a solar distiller, you can get plans on E Bay usually for
Less than $10.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Ode Coyote
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAny OZ members - help


  Sounds like you have a handy neighbor who can help.

 Rain and dew is distilled water.  Tends to pick up airborne crud, but it
can work.

Ode

At 01:34 PM 4/9/2004 +1000, you wrote:
Hi folks,

Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a 
hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine 
Coast - 100k North of Brisbane.

I am looking at  importing from USA a  domestic steam distiller ($99)  
but
incredibly they want $85 to send it!
My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner.  :-)

I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial 
-
but looks like I might have no choice.

Cheers,
Himagain.



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Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[Nenah Sylver]

Copyright 2004 Palm Beach Newspapers, Inc.
Palm Beach Post (Florida)

January 24, 2004 Saturday FINAL EDITION

SECTION: LOCAL, Pg. 1B

LENGTH: 741 words

HEADLINE: 'TAX CHEAT' SENTENCED TO PRISON

BYLINE: By MARY McLACHLIN Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

DATELINE: WEST PALM BEACH

BODY:
Former Palm Beach investment adviser, computer entrepreneur, concert promoter
and author Stewart Fason is afraid he's going to die in prison, and looks as
though he might.

The millionaire health-pill huckster is only 70 but looks 90, the consequences
of a bad heart, dysfunctional arteries, multiple strokes and a bout with lung
cancer. White-haired and gray-faced, Fason listened dejectedly Friday as a
federal judge turned down his lawyer's plea to let him serve time for tax
evasion at home instead of behind bars.

This is a sick man - if he continues to be incarcerated, he may lose his life,
Miami attorney Allen Ross implored the court.

He is a tax cheat, pure and simple, U.S. District Judge Daniel T.K. Hurley
said. And he is someone who had the ability to pay his taxes . . . and he now
comes before the court saying 'I'm sick, I'm old, send me home.'

And the answer I have is, 'Absolutely not.' 

Hurley sentenced Fason to 28 months in prison, followed by three years on
supervised release, plus a $6,000 fine and nearly $1 million in restitution for
taxes he admitted not paying in the 1980s.

Fason already has served seven months of the sentence since his arrest last June
in South Carolina, where he was living under another name and helping his fourth
wife promote a cure-all cosmetic called Raiza Creme on the Internet.

Hurley agreed to recommend Fason be sent to a low-security prison near his home
and said the Federal Bureau of Prisons is obligated to treat his medical
problems, including surgery for his heart and artery conditions.

The sentencing began in December and stretched through two sessions this week as
government and defense lawyers argued over tax calculations and which parts of
Fason's intricate tax-avoidance enterprises should be counted against him.

The Internal Revenue Service said Fason cooked up elaborate schemes to hide
money and avoid paying nearly $1.5 million in taxes in 1989 and 1990. They
included a phantom alter-ego, shell companies in the Bahamas and a deal in which
he supposedly paid $1.5 million for the rights to five B movies - Devil Man,
Mask of the Devil, The Gods of Evil, Big Race and Slow Death - to show on
television in countries such as China, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, India and Nepal.

A movie industry analyst hired by the IRS said he could find no reference to
such movies, and if they did exist, they would have a total value of zero in
such countries.

In the 1980s, Fason got caught in a hoax concert promotion in which he
purportedly found a young violinist by offering a $1,000 reward after hearing
her playing on the street in New York City. He admitted later he knew the young
woman and arranged the stunt.

In the early 1990s, he made money by getting people in Palm Beach County to pay
$10 a month to take part in a study of miracle vitamins that he claimed would
cure serious illness.

Fason once was an account executive with leading brokerage firms, lived in an
18-room Palm Beach mansion and owned luxury homes in Tequesta and Lake Worth. He
played tennis, formed a society dedicated to the music of Chopin, lectured on
how to make money and wrote a popular book titled License to Steal.

His own words came back to haunt him in the courtroom when an IRS investigator
read a passage that urged readers not to bother with secret Swiss accounts when
30 minutes by jet from Miami are banks in the Bahamas that don't care if you
give your right name. The investigator then named a bank where prosecutors
found an account Fason used for years under an alias.

Fason's lawyer tried to convince the judge that the alias, the mysterious Mr.
Charles Sea, really did exist. He was a stocky, dark-haired, one-armed fellow,
an elderly man with a Chinese accent, or a Jewish Holocaust victim who didn't
understand Yiddish, according to various reports by people who spoke with him by
telephone.

Hurley didn't buy it.

He noted the fascinating coincidences in which brokerage accounts, Charles
Sea and the movie companies purportedly doing business with Fason intermingled
the same Bahamian and Palm Beach County addresses, including those of Fason's
then wife and mother-in-law.

I am well satisfied that Mr. Fason and Charles Sea are the same person and that
the whole movie deal was a sham, Hurley said. It was cooked up by Mr. Fason,
and he is on all sides of these transactions.

mary_mclach...@pbpost.com

NOTES:
Ran all editions.

GRAPHIC: PHOTO (BW); RICHARD GRAULICH/Staff Photographer Stewart Fason, shown
in a 1993 photo with the 'miracle' vitamins he peddled in Palm Beach County as a
cure for serious illness.

LOAD-DATE: January 25, 2004



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RE: CSAny OZ members - help

[David Bearrow]

The plans for free.

http://www.i4at.org/surv/sstill.htm

David Bearrow

At 06:27 AM 4/9/04, you wrote:


Build a solar distiller, you can get plans on E Bay usually for
Less than $10.
Bob

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From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] 
On Behalf Of Ode Coyote

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAny OZ members - help

  Sounds like you have a handy neighbor who can help.

 Rain and dew is distilled water.  Tends to pick up airborne crud, but it 
can work.


Ode

At 01:34 PM 4/9/2004 +1000, you wrote:
Hi folks,

Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a
hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine
Coast - 100k North of Brisbane.

I am looking at  importing from USA a  domestic steam distiller ($99)
but
incredibly they want $85 to send it!
My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner.  :-)

I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial
-
but looks like I might have no choice.

Cheers,
Himagain.


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RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood

[Garnet]

Yes in  many instances they do know how mineral function and interact.
But I don't think they know everything, it is difficult to ascertain
what one does not know.

A good Biochemistry text book will describe many of the chemical
pathways and functions of many minerals in the body. Some that are
present in very low amounts have only been researched when the
technology (and funding) came along to measure them. Since Reganomics
much less funding has been available for basic research so but there is
still some going on.

Zinc is a good example of a trace mineral we knew little about until we
were able to measure the low amounts it is present in. Once the research
was in all the major vitamin companies started adding it to their
blends, many Zn supplements appeared and people started talking about Zn
containing foods.

Silicon is at that early stage right now. The trace minerals in general
are the ones we know the least about. 

According to The Elements 3rd Ed by John Emsley, a standard reference
normal amounts in the human body are 2 mg total (Blood 0.003 mg/dm3,
Bone 0.01-0.44 ppm, Liver 0.005-0.25 ppm, Muscle 0.009-0.28 ppm) . It is
distributed mainly in blood, bone, liver and muscle. Total dietary
intake is 0.0014 to 0.08 mg per day. It is present in the Earth's crust
0.07 ppm. Native Silver occurs naturally as crystals, but more generally
as compact masses. It is often obtained as a by-product in the refining
of other metals such as copper.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 17:33, Thora Rasmussen wrote:
 Humans need minerals.  Do scientists even know exactly how they work, what
 they do, how they change?  If not, it may be difficult for us to figure out
 which part of the silver does the work, and where.
 
 
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Re: CSRe: finger method cs generation

[Garnet]

On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 22:27, John Rigby wrote:

 2.  Ancient sailors used to put silver (what form?) in their water jars on 
 long trips to keep it safe.

Silver coins were likely the most available form for a sailor to through
in the water storage containers.

 
 Also - HOW DID this argyra idea get *so far* around the traps?   I keep 
 meeting people who even keep and take general purpose antibiotics just 
 in case  but who know about the terrible incurable effects of ingesting 
 silver!

Argyria is real and it is a real risk to those making their own CS. It
is not that hard to produce a Silver Chloride or Nitrate. Look at the
Senator from Montana, he did it in a matter of years, by not being smart
about what he was doing.

For those who take care and are smart about it Argyria is not a risk.
Just like Food Poisoning, if you are smart about your food you do not
get Salmonella. But that does not mean it is a myth. Salmonella is every
where, and you have to ingest a bunch to get sick, but it happens.

The lethal dose of Silver Nitrate in mice is 50 mg/kg. In humans the
lethal dose of Silver salts is 1 gram. So yes there are risks for those
who do not educate themselves and exercise due caution in their set up.

Garnet

 
 Cheers,
 Himagain - a known cynic . but soon to own his own CS generator!



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RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood

[Garnet]

The paragraph on normal amounts refer to Silver not Silicon, as it now
appears, in the below message. 

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 08:27, Garnet wrote:
 Yes in  many instances they do know how mineral function and interact.
 But I don't think they know everything, it is difficult to ascertain
 what one does not know.
 
 A good Biochemistry text book will describe many of the chemical
 pathways and functions of many minerals in the body. Some that are
 present in very low amounts have only been researched when the
 technology (and funding) came along to measure them. Since Reganomics
 much less funding has been available for basic research so but there is
 still some going on.
 
 Zinc is a good example of a trace mineral we knew little about until we
 were able to measure the low amounts it is present in. Once the research
 was in all the major vitamin companies started adding it to their
 blends, many Zn supplements appeared and people started talking about Zn
 containing foods.
 
 Silicon is at that early stage right now. The trace minerals in general
 are the ones we know the least about. 
 
 According to The Elements 3rd Ed by John Emsley, a standard reference
 normal amounts in the human body are 2 mg total (Blood 0.003 mg/dm3,
 Bone 0.01-0.44 ppm, Liver 0.005-0.25 ppm, Muscle 0.009-0.28 ppm) . It is
 distributed mainly in blood, bone, liver and muscle. Total dietary
 intake is 0.0014 to 0.08 mg per day. It is present in the Earth's crust
 0.07 ppm. Native Silver occurs naturally as crystals, but more generally
 as compact masses. It is often obtained as a by-product in the refining
 of other metals such as copper.
 
 Garnet
 
 On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 17:33, Thora Rasmussen wrote:
  Humans need minerals.  Do scientists even know exactly how they work, what
  they do, how they change?  If not, it may be difficult for us to figure out
  which part of the silver does the work, and where.
  
  
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CSDetecting Silver In The Blood

[Matthew McCann PE]

Hi, Stuff,

That reminds me of that infamous shortcoming in
aerodynamics:  Bumblebees cannot fly. But
bumblebees don't know that.

Matthew
- Original Message - 
From: Stuff st...@laguna.com.mx
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood


 I suspect that scientists know almost nothing of what's touted in
 the alternative medicine field, whatever that might mean.

 I do know how CS has worked for me and mine.

 There is no better science than first hand science in this.

 stuff

 At 04:33 PM 4/8/2004 -0600, you wrote:
 Humans need minerals.  Do scientists even know exactly how they work,
what
 they do, how they change?  If not, it may be difficult for us to figure
out
 which part of the silver does the work, and where.
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[missett]

Is it Stephen Fason (header) or Stewart Fason (story)?


- Original Message - 
From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon  Stephen Fason


 Copyright 2004 Palm Beach Newspapers, Inc.
 Palm Beach Post (Florida)

 January 24, 2004 Saturday FINAL EDITION

 SECTION: LOCAL, Pg. 1B

 LENGTH: 741 words

 HEADLINE: 'TAX CHEAT' SENTENCED TO PRISON

 BYLINE: By MARY McLACHLIN Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

 DATELINE: WEST PALM BEACH

 BODY:
 Former Palm Beach investment adviser, computer entrepreneur, concert
promoter
 and author Stewart Fason is afraid he's going to die in prison, and looks
as
 though he might.

 The millionaire health-pill huckster is only 70 but looks 90, the
consequences
 of a bad heart, dysfunctional arteries, multiple strokes and a bout with
lung
 cancer. White-haired and gray-faced, Fason listened dejectedly Friday as a
 federal judge turned down his lawyer's plea to let him serve time for tax
 evasion at home instead of behind bars.

 This is a sick man - if he continues to be incarcerated, he may lose his
life,
 Miami attorney Allen Ross implored the court.

 He is a tax cheat, pure and simple, U.S. District Judge Daniel T.K.
Hurley
 said. And he is someone who had the ability to pay his taxes . . . and he
now
 comes before the court saying 'I'm sick, I'm old, send me home.'

 And the answer I have is, 'Absolutely not.' 

 Hurley sentenced Fason to 28 months in prison, followed by three years on
 supervised release, plus a $6,000 fine and nearly $1 million in
restitution for
 taxes he admitted not paying in the 1980s.

 Fason already has served seven months of the sentence since his arrest
last June
 in South Carolina, where he was living under another name and helping his
fourth
 wife promote a cure-all cosmetic called Raiza Creme on the Internet.

 Hurley agreed to recommend Fason be sent to a low-security prison near his
home
 and said the Federal Bureau of Prisons is obligated to treat his medical
 problems, including surgery for his heart and artery conditions.

 The sentencing began in December and stretched through two sessions this
week as
 government and defense lawyers argued over tax calculations and which
parts of
 Fason's intricate tax-avoidance enterprises should be counted against him.

 The Internal Revenue Service said Fason cooked up elaborate schemes to
hide
 money and avoid paying nearly $1.5 million in taxes in 1989 and 1990. They
 included a phantom alter-ego, shell companies in the Bahamas and a deal in
which
 he supposedly paid $1.5 million for the rights to five B movies - Devil
Man,
 Mask of the Devil, The Gods of Evil, Big Race and Slow Death - to show on
 television in countries such as China, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, India and
Nepal.

 A movie industry analyst hired by the IRS said he could find no reference
to
 such movies, and if they did exist, they would have a total value of
zero in
 such countries.

 In the 1980s, Fason got caught in a hoax concert promotion in which he
 purportedly found a young violinist by offering a $1,000 reward after
hearing
 her playing on the street in New York City. He admitted later he knew the
young
 woman and arranged the stunt.

 In the early 1990s, he made money by getting people in Palm Beach County
to pay
 $10 a month to take part in a study of miracle vitamins that he claimed
would
 cure serious illness.

 Fason once was an account executive with leading brokerage firms, lived in
an
 18-room Palm Beach mansion and owned luxury homes in Tequesta and Lake
Worth. He
 played tennis, formed a society dedicated to the music of Chopin, lectured
on
 how to make money and wrote a popular book titled License to Steal.

 His own words came back to haunt him in the courtroom when an IRS
investigator
 read a passage that urged readers not to bother with secret Swiss accounts
when
 30 minutes by jet from Miami are banks in the Bahamas that don't care
if you
 give your right name. The investigator then named a bank where
prosecutors
 found an account Fason used for years under an alias.

 Fason's lawyer tried to convince the judge that the alias, the mysterious
Mr.
 Charles Sea, really did exist. He was a stocky, dark-haired, one-armed
fellow,
 an elderly man with a Chinese accent, or a Jewish Holocaust victim who
didn't
 understand Yiddish, according to various reports by people who spoke with
him by
 telephone.

 Hurley didn't buy it.

 He noted the fascinating coincidences in which brokerage accounts,
Charles
 Sea and the movie companies purportedly doing business with Fason
intermingled
 the same Bahamian and Palm Beach County addresses, including those of
Fason's
 then wife and mother-in-law.

 I am well satisfied that Mr. Fason and Charles Sea are the same person
and that
 the whole movie deal was a sham, Hurley said. It was cooked up by Mr.
Fason,
 and he is on all sides of these transactions.

 mary_mclach...@pbpost.com

 NOTES:
 Ran all 

CSDetecting Silver In The Blood

[Matthew McCann PE]

Hi, Members of the List,

An assay method for CS that has not drawn much
comment yet is the muriatic acid- ammonia test presented
on page 48 of D.L. Coburn and P.D. Dignan's The
Wonders Of Colloidal Silver (AA Micro, Arroyo Grande,
1997-1998.)

Has anybody tried this assay method? What kind of
results can others expect? Is it based on standard
methods described elsewhere? Has anybody developed
a quantitative method (e.g. a titration) from the
qualitative method described by Coburn and Dignan?
Thanks in advance for any assistance and input to
these queries!

Best regards,

Matthew

Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[Marshall Dudley]

I know how you feel. Last year my taxes exceeded my income!  They are
heartless.

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I think it would be best if we continued discussion of Dr. Jon aka
 Stephen Fason on the Off Topic List. (See link at bottom of message.)

  HEADLINE: 'TAX CHEAT' SENTENCED TO PRISON

 As far as I'm concerned, being a tax cheat is no great dishonor. The
 only reason I pay taxes is because if I don't, people with guns will
 come and arrest me, take my home, and murder me where I stand if I dare
 to resist their aggression.

 If he's been defrauding people, that's another thing, certainly. I
 don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the IRS, however. grin

 See you over on the Off Topic List, folks!

 Mike Devour
 silver-list owner

 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]

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Re: CSAny OZ members - help

[sandee George]

Hi There John - get in touch with he...@refreshwater.com.au.
in Perth - they make distilled water for the Kidney
Research Foundation,  which has a reading of 0  the very best for
making C.S.They also sell one of the counter top distillers (1 gallon
per 4 hours) which is made in the States.   However one made completely
out of glass with no plastic is the best way to go, so your moonshiner
may have just the ticket for you !   The quality of your water before
starting plays a great part, if you have chemicals in the water then you
may have to make a double distill before you get an acceptable pure water
reading low enough for the C.S., anything up to 6.00 is a possible but
really good
enough, I use rainwater with one distillation to get a reading between .8
and 1.0 which is not as good as the Perth water but better than most
others I have tested.   I do not remember what they put in your water up
there in Queensland any way try the rain water if you can set this up
unless your water is untouched by man which I very much doubt !!
Take care and good travelling !!!
Sandee

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CSWebsite - Who is Dr. Jon

[Nenah Sylver]

List,
In the interest of setting the record straight, I am sending this link to a 
website that will explain a great deal.


http://home.comcast.net/~rifegen/drjon.htm

CSArgyria risk

[Terry Chamberlin]

Garnet said:
Argyria is real and it is a real risk to those making
their own CS. It is not that hard to produce a Silver
Chloride or Nitrate. Look at the Senator from Montana,
he did it in a matter of years, by not being smart
about what he was doing.

I have to emphatically disagree. I would not call one
case of argyria in the last 100 years a real risk.
Stan Jones used tap water (most likely polluted city
water), brewed his batches for one hour until they
looked like coffee, and drank 8 ounces per day for two
years.

I am not saying there has only been one case of
argyria in the last 100 years, I am saying there has
been only one case of argyria from CS *made with
silver and distilled water.*

Every other case of argyria (of which there have not
been many) in the last century have been the result of
large doses of silver compounds, or even silver dust
(such as a silver-smith might be in frequent and
regular contact with). Using distilled or deionised
water and pure silver and electricity of any voltage
less than 120 volts will not 'accidently' make CS that
is dangerous. If you cook it to a coffee-color, maybe
there is a concern. Anyone on this list drinking
coffee-colored CS? I didn't think so. 

I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so
for over four years. I put CS in everything in our
diet I can put it in. Pancake batter in my house is 2
cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1 or 2
quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice
(the frozen kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking
water (distilled water) is 30% CS. Anytime a liquid is
needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking, it's CS.

My children are being raised on CS. CS goes in eyes,
ears, noses, throats and on anything on the outside of
the body it can go on. It treats burns, rashes,
stings, cuts and scrapes. It is one of the first
things we turn to for health or medical issues.

My children are pink and flesh-colored (except where
they are tanned). I have no blue gills (or
fingernails). My oldest daughter drinks copious
amounts of CS (has for the last 4+ years). Her 6-month
old son gets CS each day, as well as what he got
within his mom. He is pink and healthy and energetic. 

But no one in my family gets sick. Never. Zip. My kids
friends all share their dieases with each other,
passing around whatever they have. Haven't you heard?
There's a bug going around, does not apply to my
family. 

What did Stan Jones do to get blue? He drank
CS-coffee.
OK, don't brew CS-coffee (actually, I make my coffee
each morning with CS only - I'm talking about
coffee-colored CS). I not only don't need to be
careful to avoid what Stan Jones did, I would have to
try to accomplish it.

Colloidal Silver is not something you need to fear, or
even be careful about. Think about it: Apart from Stan
Jones (who obviously didn't have a clue what he was
doing), THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE CASE OF ARGYRIA FROM
COLLOIDAL SILVER IN THE LAST CENTURY that was made as
we are making it. There have been more reports of
overdoses and toxic reactions to virtually every other
nutrient our bodies need than to CS. 

When I was a kid, my friends and I used to
deliberately hyperventilate and then hold our breaths
in order to make ourselves faint. Then I saw one of my
friends go into some kind of seizure doing that, and I
stopped. So it's possible to hurt myself with wierd
breathing, but I am not careful about breathing, I
just do it. So also I use pure silver and pure water
and I brew it a bit and I drink it without restraint.
Nothing too careful about that.

I don't know of a single other nutrient that is safer
than CS.

My rambling two cents.

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CSArgyria risk

[Garnet]

I was not speaking of the incidence of Argyria, but rather the chance
that one can produce Silver Salts. I know from personal experience how
easy it is to contaminate a batch. From that perspective I know the
risks to be significant by my own mistakes. 

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 12:22, Terry Chamberlin wrote:
 Garnet said:
 Argyria is real and it is a real risk to those making
 their own CS. It is not that hard to produce a Silver
 Chloride or Nitrate. Look at the Senator from Montana,
 he did it in a matter of years, by not being smart
 about what he was doing.
 
 I have to emphatically disagree. I would not call one
 case of argyria in the last 100 years a real risk.
 Stan Jones used tap water (most likely polluted city
 water), brewed his batches for one hour until they
 looked like coffee, and drank 8 ounces per day for two
 years.
 
 I am not saying there has only been one case of
 argyria in the last 100 years, I am saying there has
 been only one case of argyria from CS *made with
 silver and distilled water.*
 
 Every other case of argyria (of which there have not
 been many) in the last century have been the result of
 large doses of silver compounds, or even silver dust
 (such as a silver-smith might be in frequent and
 regular contact with). Using distilled or deionised
 water and pure silver and electricity of any voltage
 less than 120 volts will not 'accidently' make CS that
 is dangerous. If you cook it to a coffee-color, maybe
 there is a concern. Anyone on this list drinking
 coffee-colored CS? I didn't think so. 
 
 I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so
 for over four years. I put CS in everything in our
 diet I can put it in. Pancake batter in my house is 2
 cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1 or 2
 quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice
 (the frozen kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking
 water (distilled water) is 30% CS. Anytime a liquid is
 needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking, it's CS.
 
 My children are being raised on CS. CS goes in eyes,
 ears, noses, throats and on anything on the outside of
 the body it can go on. It treats burns, rashes,
 stings, cuts and scrapes. It is one of the first
 things we turn to for health or medical issues.
 
 My children are pink and flesh-colored (except where
 they are tanned). I have no blue gills (or
 fingernails). My oldest daughter drinks copious
 amounts of CS (has for the last 4+ years). Her 6-month
 old son gets CS each day, as well as what he got
 within his mom. He is pink and healthy and energetic. 
 
 But no one in my family gets sick. Never. Zip. My kids
 friends all share their dieases with each other,
 passing around whatever they have. Haven't you heard?
 There's a bug going around, does not apply to my
 family. 
 
 What did Stan Jones do to get blue? He drank
 CS-coffee.
 OK, don't brew CS-coffee (actually, I make my coffee
 each morning with CS only - I'm talking about
 coffee-colored CS). I not only don't need to be
 careful to avoid what Stan Jones did, I would have to
 try to accomplish it.
 
 Colloidal Silver is not something you need to fear, or
 even be careful about. Think about it: Apart from Stan
 Jones (who obviously didn't have a clue what he was
 doing), THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE CASE OF ARGYRIA FROM
 COLLOIDAL SILVER IN THE LAST CENTURY that was made as
 we are making it. There have been more reports of
 overdoses and toxic reactions to virtually every other
 nutrient our bodies need than to CS. 
 
 When I was a kid, my friends and I used to
 deliberately hyperventilate and then hold our breaths
 in order to make ourselves faint. Then I saw one of my
 friends go into some kind of seizure doing that, and I
 stopped. So it's possible to hurt myself with wierd
 breathing, but I am not careful about breathing, I
 just do it. So also I use pure silver and pure water
 and I brew it a bit and I drink it without restraint.
 Nothing too careful about that.
 
 I don't know of a single other nutrient that is safer
 than CS.
 
 My rambling two cents.
 
 Terry Chamberlin
 
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Re: CSArgyria risk

[Marshall Dudley]

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 Garnet said:
 Argyria is real and it is a real risk to those making
 their own CS. It is not that hard to produce a Silver
 Chloride or Nitrate. Look at the Senator from Montana,
 he did it in a matter of years, by not being smart
 about what he was doing.

 I have to emphatically disagree. I would not call one
 case of argyria in the last 100 years a real risk.
 Stan Jones used tap water (most likely polluted city
 water), brewed his batches for one hour until they
 looked like coffee, and drank 8 ounces per day for two
 years.

 I am not saying there has only been one case of
 argyria in the last 100 years, I am saying there has
 been only one case of argyria from CS *made with
 silver and distilled water.*

I am not aware of any cases.  Do you have any information on this?

Marshall


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CSFurther argyria comments

[Terry Chamberlin]

Quoting from Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D.

...you should be advised that we recently completed
an extensive review of the scientific literature on
the safety of silver, especially as it relates to its
one known potential side effect, namely, Argyria.
Argyia is an irreversible discoloration of the pigment
(skin) caused by excessive silver intake or chronic
exposure to silver by certain tissues. The amount of
silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be
3.8 grams per day. By comparison, standard 10 ppm
colloidal silver contains silver in amounts equaling
less than 1 milligram of silver (1,000 micrograms = 1
milligram; 1,000 milligrams - 1 gram), which therefore
represents an amount approximately 1/500th to 1/1000th
of the amount of silver considered to be a risk in the
development of Argyria.

And again We know that dogs died from injections of a
type of protein-bound silver in dosages ranging from
500 mg to 1.9 grams of silver depending on the
frequency of administration. This was equivalent in
silver content to giving [per day] a 150 pound adult
between 150 litres and 570 litres of 10 ppm colloidal
silver, or between 75 and 285 liters of 20 ppm
colloidal silver or between 50 and 190 litres of 30
ppm colloidal silver. The 10 gram estimated lethal
dose for humans from Goodman and Gillman is equivalent
to 1000 liters of 10 ppm colloidal silver.

Quoting another silver-list member:
Argyria is caused by the same mechanism that is used
when developing photographs. It is the same thing. If
you start with a salt of silver, and expose it to
light, some of it will reduce to silver metal. Then if
you have a developer (caffeine is a good developer) in
an alkaline solution (blood is normally alkaline),
additional silver will plate out from the compound
onto the metallic particles, making them grow. That is
the photographic process, and that is how one gets
argyria.

Now, the process requires silver salts. There are no
substitutes. Colloidal silver contains no silver
salts. Basically silver salts are what are in
unexposed film. Silver colloid is what is in a
developed photograph. If you put a developed photo
into the sun what does it do. It fades, it doesn't
turn darker. That is because a developed photo has no
silver salts to add to the silver particles since it
is already nothing but reduced silver particles.

Thus colloidal silver cannot cause argyria.
Theoretically I guess one could take CS with
sufficient ppm and in sufficient quantity to cause
aggregation, but one would likely drown from too much
water first, as the amounts would be truly phenomenal.

In years of pouring over hardcopy of obscure medical
cases no one has yet found a single report of any
adverse reaction to very fine particles of very fine
silver floating in very pure water.

Stan Jones did not drink very fine particles in very
pure water. He drank colloidal silver mud.

Stay away from the mud.

Terry Chamberlin


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CSCold fusion

[Marshall Dudley]

This was mentioned here before. One quick url:

http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/samplearticle.pdf

Good information on the experiments over the years.

And that is all.  No reply needed or desired.

Marshall


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Re: CSFurther argyria comments

[Jason Eaton]

Hi Terry:

There are a few problems with the quoted material below.

Fine silver particles, in the form of industrial and silver dust in mining
environments, inhalted into the lungs, used to cause an abundance of argyria
cases.  These cases were not studied medically as much as the proteins and
compounds, because there was no reason to.  Medical attention was given to
silver compounds that might have potential for treatment in humans, and/or
products that were being used as such; therefore, the abundance of medically
related material found was written on these products.

So,  fine silver particles subjected to normal body fluids can cause
argyria.  Here, we then have to focus on particle sizing:

http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-lung-study.html

Silver particles sized less than 15 nanometers, in one modern study, were
readily eliminated by the lungs; the same can be said for dissolved silver.
Of course, the silver nitrate was not retained in the lungs either, but can
still be retained in other body organs.

Concerning production with impure water, the real primary concern is not the
silver salts formed, it is a) the large particles formed by the runaway
reaction and b) the actual amount of silver ingested by this method.  People
commonly using salt or spring water go through rods pretty quickly; and
they've ingested all of that silver.

I used a silver-puppy generator and tap water  with a dash of salt, and
ran it for an hour with the current limited to about .3 Ma, just to get an
idea of what Stan was drinking.  Less than 15 minutes into the current
limited reaction, tiny flakes of silver were already being deposited into
the water.

Obviously, it makes sense that ingesting a great deal of actual silver in a
short period of time ( a few doses ) presents a greater risk than ingesting
the same amount of silver over days/months/years.

Alexander G. Schauss,  Hopkins PHD though he is, is wrong.  The EPA
established RISK for silver is 3.8 grams, not per day, but over a lifetime.
You'd have to chop tiny silver chips to ingest 3.8 grams a day or mix ground
silver with your water, and doing so would not turn you blue, it would
eventually kill you, probably before you turned blue.  Silver is going to be
retained in the major organs prior to the skin; this has been demonstrated
over and over with lab rat type studies and autopsies.

The established minimum critical dose is 1.9 milligrams daily.  While this
number is contested, it's a pretty close approximation to what is accepted
by the World Health Organization and the EPA, and it is based on the
available scientific data, which, granted, has a great many holes that have
never been filled, especially concerning isolated silver products.

At one point, I attempted to enduce argyria by utilizing large amounts of
silver orally and via a nebulizer.  Alot of interesting observations were
made during this period, but argyria was not one of them.  I am able to
drink extraordinary amounts of good isolated silver, and my risk for argyria
is not equal to others', as I have a fast burning metabolism, a very healthy
liver, kidneys, and a digestive system that is managed via natural medicine
( at least that's what my accupuncturist states ).

Best Regards,

Jason








- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: CSFurther argyria comments


 Quoting from Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D.

 ...you should be advised that we recently completed
 an extensive review of the scientific literature on
 the safety of silver, especially as it relates to its
 one known potential side effect, namely, Argyria.
 Argyia is an irreversible discoloration of the pigment
 (skin) caused by excessive silver intake or chronic
 exposure to silver by certain tissues. The amount of
 silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be
 3.8 grams per day. By comparison, standard 10 ppm
 colloidal silver contains silver in amounts equaling
 less than 1 milligram of silver (1,000 micrograms = 1
 milligram; 1,000 milligrams - 1 gram), which therefore
 represents an amount approximately 1/500th to 1/1000th
 of the amount of silver considered to be a risk in the
 development of Argyria.

 And again We know that dogs died from injections of a
 type of protein-bound silver in dosages ranging from
 500 mg to 1.9 grams of silver depending on the
 frequency of administration. This was equivalent in
 silver content to giving [per day] a 150 pound adult
 between 150 litres and 570 litres of 10 ppm colloidal
 silver, or between 75 and 285 liters of 20 ppm
 colloidal silver or between 50 and 190 litres of 30
 ppm colloidal silver. The 10 gram estimated lethal
 dose for humans from Goodman and Gillman is equivalent
 to 1000 liters of 10 ppm colloidal silver.

 Quoting another silver-list member:
 Argyria is caused by the same mechanism that is used
 when developing photographs. It is the same thing. If
 you start with a 

CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi,

I bought a Laser pointer from Radio Shack the other day and was surprised to
see it had a red light.  Is this normal?  I thought it would be a white
light.  If a white light is more desirable for testing CS, would someone
please tell me where to buy one with a white light?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh 

Re: CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

[Marshall Dudley]

There is no such thing as a white light laser. A laser is monochromic,
and white light is as non-monochromic as you can get.

Marshall

oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I bought a Laser pointer from Radio Shack the other day and was
 surprised to see it had a red light.  Is this normal?  I thought it
 would be a white light.  If a white light is more desirable for
 testing CS, would someone please tell me where to buy one with a white
 light?

 Thank you,

 Jean Baugh

CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi Marshall,

Thank you for this good information.  I would have sworn I saw a laser
pointer and it was white but guess this is why witnesses are given no
credence in a trial?:)

Thank you,

Jean Baugh

**

 There is no such thing as a white light laser. A laser is monochromic, and
 white light is as non-monochromic as you can get.
 
 Marshall 
 
 oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I bought a Laser pointer from Radio Shack the other day and was surprised to
 see it had a red light.  Is this normal? I thought it would be a white light.
 If a white light is more desirable for testing CS, would someone please tell
 me where to buy one with a white light?
 
 Thank you, 
 
 Jean Baugh
 

Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[Stuff]

It's that time of year again where we're all happy to give them what
they squeeze out of us, isn't it. he, he...

stuff

At 11:25 AM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

I know how you feel. Last year my taxes exceeded my income!  They are
heartless.

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I think it would be best if we continued discussion of Dr. Jon aka
 Stephen Fason on the Off Topic List. (See link at bottom of message.)

  HEADLINE: 'TAX CHEAT' SENTENCED TO PRISON

 As far as I'm concerned, being a tax cheat is no great dishonor. The
 only reason I pay taxes is because if I don't, people with guns will
 come and arrest me, take my home, and murder me where I stand if I dare
 to resist their aggression.



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Re: CSRe: finger method cs generation

[Stuff]

At 08:32 AM 4/9/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote:


The lethal dose of Silver Nitrate in mice is 50 mg/kg. In humans the
lethal dose of Silver salts is 1 gram. So yes there are risks for those
who do not educate themselves and exercise due caution in their set up.


And yet it's used for *external* application...

Most doctors treat newborns with silver nitrate or other medicine to keep 
them from getting gonorrhea in the eyes, which can cause blindness. 


http://www.idph.state.il.us/about/womenshealth/factsheets/std.htm

What is NOT mentioned here is that it's applied to the eyes [a doctor told 
me] in some fashion that I'm not

particularly aware of...on the eyeball or what?

stuff



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Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason

[Hank]

Maybe you need to go watch this movie. http://www.861.info
Yours Hank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stuff 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:13 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon  Stephen Fason




  It's that time of year again where we're all happy to give them what
  they squeeze out of us, isn't it. he, he...

  stuff

  At 11:25 AM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:
  I know how you feel. Last year my taxes exceeded my income!  They are
  heartless.
  
  Marshall

Re: CSWebsite - Who is Dr. Jon

[Stuff]

At 01:19 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

List,
In the interest of setting the record straight, I am sending this link to 
a website that will explain a great deal.



http://home.comcast.net/~rifegen/drjon.htmhttp://home.comcast.net/~rifegen/drjon.htm



We don't wish him ill will, nor accuse him of any particular crime. 

Then why all the gossipy, soap opera innuendo?

Jeez!

stuff



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CScolloidal dosage

[Revonda Henderson]

I have recently purchase a colloidal silver generator. In other words... I am 
new at this. I have searched all over the net to try and figure out a daily 
dosage and appropriate ppm per solution. It seems every site has a different 
opinion. Could someone please help. Also, is there a site that explains dosage 
for particular types of infections or disease. Thanks, Henderson

CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

[Dan Nave]

There are some bright white LED light pens you can get now which look a 
bit like a laser pointer.  Perhaps this is what you saw.  I believe 
someone recently said on-list that this LED penlight was pretty good for 
seeing the tyndal effect.


Dan


CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

* From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 15:24:34

Laser pointer the wrong color?


Hi Marshall,



Thank you for this good information.  I would have sworn I saw a laser
 pointer and it was white but guess this is why witnesses are given no 
crede

nce in a trial?:)



Thank you,



Jean Baugh


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Re: CSLaser pointer the wrong color?

[Arnold Beland]

A red (650nm) laser pointer is a real aid in any effort to make colloidal 
silver.  When the pointer is directed through the solution the actual silver 
particles will scatter the laser energy forming a beam which will vary in 
intensity according to the number of particles present.  A solution that 
remains clear in ambient light a yet shows a strong beam can be considered 
the optimum product that can be produced using a low voltage electrolysis 
method.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.abeland1.com
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: CSLaser pointer the wrong color?


 There are some bright white LED light pens you can get now which look a 
 bit like a laser pointer.  Perhaps this is what you saw.  I believe 
 someone recently said on-list that this LED penlight was pretty good for 
 seeing the tyndal effect.
 
 Dan
 
 
 CSLaser pointer the wrong color?
 
  * From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net (view other messages by this author)
  * Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 15:24:34
 
 Laser pointer the wrong color?
 
 
 Hi Marshall,
 
 
 
 Thank you for this good information.  I would have sworn I saw a laser
   pointer and it was white but guess this is why witnesses are given no 
 crede
 nce in a trial?:)
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 
 Jean Baugh
 
 
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CSMultiple uses for CS - per Terry Chamberlain

[Terry]

Terry C., per your post:

I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so for over four
years. I put CS in everything in our diet I can put it in. Pancake
batter in my house is 2 cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1
or 2 quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice (the frozen
kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking water (distilled water) is 30%
CS. Anytime a liquid is needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking,
it's CS.

Thank you for the suggestions for a variety of ways to incorporate CS in
the daily diet.  However, I have read that CS should be taken on an
empty stomach for it to be effective.  Obviously you feel there is also
value in taking CS even if combined with various foods...could you
elaborate?

Thanks,
Terry Ward 

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CSAny OZ Members

[Simon Heywood]

G'Day John
Here in Western Australiawe have know problems in purchasing pureSteam distilled water, from K Mart Auto section Glendale Water, or Refresh who are based in Malaga in Perth. I produce CS using the Silvergen SG7 Autoat 5 Gallons at a time.
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Re: CSMultiple uses for CS - per Terry Chamberlain

[William Meyer]

for myself, i have had good effects on lyme disease drinking only a few 
ounces a

day of 12 ppm CS.

spraying solution on hands, eyes, and nose and mouth is nice when you 
are meeting

a lot of people and do not want a cold.

CS batches that go bad are good to use as mouthwash.

terry c's use is very unusual and extraordinary.



On Apr 10, 2004, at 1:38 AM, Terry wrote:


Terry C., per your post:

I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so for over four
years. I put CS in everything in our diet I can put it in. Pancake
batter in my house is 2 cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1
or 2 quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice (the frozen
kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking water (distilled water) is 30%
CS. Anytime a liquid is needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking,
it's CS.

Thank you for the suggestions for a variety of ways to incorporate CS 
in

the daily diet.  However, I have read that CS should be taken on an
empty stomach for it to be effective.  Obviously you feel there is also
value in taking CS even if combined with various foods...could you
elaborate?

Thanks,
Terry Ward

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