Re: CSCS: Mold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets
In the old days, people used to boil their clothing. Could that be one reason for it? Ode At 09:32 AM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi All, I'm having serious problems trying to kill mold spores in bedding and have given up on cotton materials as impossible to treat adequately. Does anyone know what kind of damage would occur if chlorine bleach were used on Vellux blankets? The manufacturer says do not bleach, but as far as I can find out, the blankets are made of nylon and polyethylene which are supposed to be unaffected by chlorine bleach. Would bleaching change the color? If so, that doesn't matter. Would the blanket be destroyed? Does anyone have any information or experience to share? Is there any other way to disinfect bedding? I can detect at least 6 different symptoms caused by different types of bacteria or mold. I have tried many different methods of disinfecting, but they seem to only work on 3 or 4 of the symptoms and leave the rest unchanged. Thanks for any information you can give! Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFwd: CSauto-immune disease
I haven't been diagnosed w/ Lyme, but suppose it could be. I was diagnosed w/ the Hep C in 97. Apologies Max, if you have been diagnosed for hep c, it's probably not lyme. I haven't tried doxycyline or any antibiotic at this point. Isn't doxy related to teracycline? Yes. The Doxy is part of the tetracycline group and it is used to treat Lyme. Dave. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words.
Doesn't the very strong magnetic field 'produce' those spins and resonances? I think that by definition, a resonance is a result rather than a product as in resonate with. I have read that it is possible to 'structure' water and place a spin on the atoms using electromagnetic fields , but that once the field of influence is removed, the structure disintigrates in milliseconds. It was a highly technical research paper chock full of equations, descriptions of methods and stuff that was hard to read, but that's what it said in between the incomprehensibilities. Search string atomic spin New agers use the words frequency and vibration interchangeably without bothering to measure either. It is a misuse of the words to some degree but may have some validity in the absence of other more accurate words...but to then say, it has been measured using 'X' devise in megahertz when that devise has never measured anything like it by anyone else, now... Either someone is fibbing or the complete method has been kept secret. If that person is to be believed, the full info must be revealed and reproduced. Ode At 11:16 AM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The human body simply does not generate signals around 50MHz that can be measured with a frequency counter, oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, or any other similar instrument Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and its clinical application Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) make use of RF emissions from spin transitions of hydrogen nuclei, carbon-13 nuclei and other nuclei with suitable spins. These RF emissions are often in the range of 15 to 800 megahertz. Best regards, Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words.
There does exist an aura imaging camera that translates galvanic skin response? into a picture where the frequencies [colors] are assigned by a computer program and placed into a location on the picture..but the frequencies of 'vibrations' are not measured by the device. There may or may not be a coincidence of meaning. Very pretty pics though. Interesting enough to justify spending $20 on one now and then. So far as I've ever seen, aura readers are psychics [who are sometimes quite amazing, I know one or two good ones...sometimes not, I've met quite a few suspected frauds] and no machine has ever detected an aura. The missing leaf portion phenomenon ala Kirrilian photography is interesting, at least indicating that a conductive pathway 'memory' may exist...or that physical structure follows an energetic, perhaps standing wave, pattern which could well be extra dimensional. Ode At 05:08 PM 8/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: Would this device possibly be monitoring the energy frequencies emanating from the body's chakras, its seven spiritual energy centers, or from the aura, the body's energy envelope? Shall we go off-list with this? - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words. CSFrequency and the meaning of words. From: Matthew McCann PE Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:20:22 ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The human body simply does not generate signals around 50MHz that can be measured with a frequency counter, oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, or any other similar instrument Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and its clinical application Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) make use of RF emissions from spin transitions of hydrogen nuclei, carbon-13 nuclei and other nuclei with suitable spins. These RF emissions are often in the range of 15 to 800 megahertz. Best regards, Matthew NMR requires expensive high power magnets, extensive shielding, and very carefully designed drive signals. If these are absent, there are no signals to measure. We are talking about signals spontaneously generated by the human body, or bottles of oil, or lumps of soil. The BT3 instrument described by Tainio does not measure these signals. They do not exist: http://www.tainio.com/ir/frqmonitor/index.htm Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/amoebas
Amoebas are probably the biggest of all single celled life forms. [That might be the problem. They are relatively huge] They reproduce by cell division. Ode At 05:21 PM 8/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: I've posted to the list in the past that CS kills amoebas, among the many other things that it does dispose of. I just want to pass on my latest amoeba adventure: I ate an old piece of chicken on a Sunday night, and by Monday thought I had a case of salmonella. I started taking industrial doses of Microdyn (a swig out of a liter bottle every three hours for three days) and within 36 hours had put the salmonella at bay. But then it came back. So I upped my dosage and the number of days I took it, and the same thing happened. This went on for 8 weeks, and the only time I felt human was when my CS dose was maxxing. I finally went to a lab, and a doctor, and he said my intestinal tract was clean as a whistle except for amoebas. I don't know the life cycle span for amoebas, but they apparently were hatching eggs (or whatever amoebas do) on a longer cycle than my CS dosing. Or maybe CS just does not entirely kill this particular type of amoebas, just the adults. But it is clear, given the potency of Microdyn, that amoebas are pretty much impervious to CS. For the record. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Mold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets
Mold grows any time the moisture reaches 25%, for some species it is 40%. Some like cooler temps others thrive in hotter temps. Mold digests cellulose, so food sources are anywhere there is dust or discarded skin cells. Do you need to dehumidify your house -- what is the ambient humidity inside? There are portable dehumidifiers available. Controlling the moisture level using dehumidifiers and fans are two simple measures to reduce mold in indoor air. Moving air is very important in areas like basements and bathrooms, kitchens too, where ambient humidity is high. Houses with baseboard electric heaters and no fans are also in need of air circulation. Have you tried spritzing the blanket with CS? I was going to suggest putting it in the rinse water but spritzing with a spray bottle directly would give a higher concentration of silver. Any cleaning product that leaves a residual high enough to inhibit mold from growing might be enough to bother people. Bleach leaves an odor in clothes, chlorine odor, even when I rinse the items many times, and rewash in soap, I can still smell the bleach so I don't use it. Chlorine ties up oxygen in your system and can give you migraines (done that). Hydrogen peroxide does not leave an odor. It is an oxidizing agent just like bleach. It kills fungus too. Too much will leave white spots or even eat right through the fabric leaving holes. There are charts that tell you what dilution to use for laundary. I have not tried it on mold contaminated fabrics. I know that in some of the mold literature it is stated that stuffed furniture and toys should be discarded if infested because it is too hard to clean it all out. Spores will remain and regrow under the right moisture conditions. Blankets can be washed, but the spores in the air can recollect in there and regrow anytime the moisture is high enough. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/amoebas
It is my understanding, which is not complete, that CS kills anaerobic pathogenic organsims by interfering with the enzyme that controls respiration for the cell. Because amoebas and other parasites go through a single stage cell it may be assumed that CS will kill them by virtue of the fact that they are single cells. However these cells use a different enzyme system than anaerobes to incorporate and utilize oxygen. If the mechanism of action of CS is to inactivate the enzyme responsible for anaerobic respiration it follows that it would not work on a different enzyme system in an aerobic organism. I do not know if CS kills amoebas or other parasties at the single cell stage or not, but these are some of my thoughts on it. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS amoebas
William said: he said my intestinal tract was clean as a whistle except for amoebas. I don't know the life cycle span for amoebas, but they apparently were hatching eggs (or whatever amoebas do) on a longer cycle than my CS dosing. Or maybe CS just does not entirely kill this particular type of amoebas, just the adults. But it is clear, given the potency of Microdyn, that amoebas are pretty much impervious to CS. Getting CS to the intestines by sipping small amounts (or even large amounts) of CS is an iffy proposition, at best. The fact that the CS didnt clear out your intestines doesnt, to me, indicate CS as being ineffectual against whatever pathogens may be in the intestines. Otherwise, Candida, Crohn's, etc., could be successfully treated using CS, which mostly has not been the case. Yes, some folks have reported success with yeast infections by drinking CS. I just had a phone call a week ago from a mother whos daughter is symptom-free from her Candida by frequent ingestion of CS, but I would consider that to be an exception and not the normal experience. I would still like to hear from someone with a gut-yeast problem who mixed CS with DMSO and applied it externally to his/her abdomen on a daily basis. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words.
Dear Mike: Where on earth did you find the url? I googled for an hour and came up empty. I was trying to find the datasheet and specifications - if you have the url, please post it!!! I found the 1.3 GHz Hand Held Frequency Counter in my MCM (www.mcminone.com) catalog page 572 of catalog 48. It is a Tenma 72-6605. Price is $204.75. The input A that is specified to be used in the instructions is 1 megohm input impedance with 25 pF shunt capacitance. So the 50 ohm noise calculation is not valid for 1 megohm. The frequency response of input A is 5 Hz to 25 MHz. So he is measuring 60 - 90 Mhz on a range that is only specified to go to 25 MHz. Just for fun, let's go through the calculations and verify Bruce's accuracy. For that, we'll need an equation solver called Mercury, written by Roger Schafley, who also wrote Borland's Eureka. Boy, oh Boy, if I ever need something calculated I will call on you. Thank you Mike. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72428.html Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words. From: Jim Meissner Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:31:41 Dear Mike: Thank you, thank you, thank you, for providing the link to the source of the Urban Legend about frequencies of the human body, essential oils, and herbs. You are very, very, very welcome:) What a scam, taking a junky cheap digital frequency counter that sell new for $204.75 and packaging that with bull shit and selling it for $2800.00! Where on earth did you find the url? I googled for an hour and came up empty. I was trying to find the datasheet and specifications - if you have the url, please post it!!! The sad part is that many of my friends and other well meaning individuals like Christine are perpetuating this scam not knowing that they have been conned. Yes, this is very true. Non-technical people are easily persuaded. It is interesting that the quote the meter is being used at Johns Hopkins University is denied by Bruce Tainio in the frequently asked questions section. I think he's pretty clever in the ways he gives himself wiggle room. Christine made a statement that she is not a techie. Well, Bruce Tainio is not a techie either. He is a biologist who seems to have no clue about the operation of electronic instruments. The way he uses the frequency counter is as a random number generator, picking up all sorts of interference. The only way this test could be run would be in a screen room. I have worked in screen rooms where all the interference has been eliminated and have never measured a signal coming from the human body. There is none. If there were, we would have to get a license from the FCC, and always be careful to keep our emotions under control so we don't go outside our assigned frequency band. Of course, there would have to be a special frequency allotment in the case of death. A funny situation may have developed at Young Living Essential Oils. The reason I was not able to get the frequency test equipment used to test their essential oils might be because they discovered that they had been scammed and are now locked into the frequency scam and cannot back out. Funny if that is the case. How could they extricate themselves without looking like fools. Again, thank you for the links to the Bruce Tainio web site. This has bothered me for years and suspected that it was a scam. I wonder whether Bruce is knowingly pulling a fast one or whether he simply does not understand what he is doing. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com Thanks for your interesting comments, Jim. I think Bruce knows he is scamming people. First, he emphasizes the problems with outside interference in numerous places, such as: What makes this frequency meter unique is it's extremely sensitive sensor... http://www.tainio.com/ir/frqmonitor/index.htm and Unless you find yourself on a deserted Pacific island, the signal you intend to measure is not the only one reaching the counter's sensor. Once the sensor is attached to the counter, every signal besides the one of interest becomes a source of interference and the second sensitivity limitation. The level of these incidental signals can be quite large, in fact, and usually is the limiting factor in bio-frequency measurement. http://www.tainio.com/ir/frqmonitor/instruct.htm These statements give him plenty of wiggle room in case of legal problems. A second item is the Concerto RFI/EMI eliminator:
Re: CSCS amoebas
CS might kill amoebas when they are small..having just divided..but not when they are big. So it might take a long time with steady dosing to kill them all off. Ode At 10:58 AM 8/15/2004 -0400, you wrote: William said: he said my intestinal tract was clean as a whistle except for amoebas. I don't know the life cycle span for amoebas, but they apparently were hatching eggs (or whatever amoebas do) on a longer cycle than my CS dosing. Or maybe CS just does not entirely kill this particular type of amoebas, just the adults. But it is clear, given the potency of Microdyn, that amoebas are pretty much impervious to CS. Getting CS to the intestines by sipping small amounts (or even large amounts) of CS is an iffy proposition, at best. The fact that the CS didnt clear out your intestines doesnt, to me, indicate CS as being ineffectual against whatever pathogens may be in the intestines. Otherwise, Candida, Crohn's, etc., could be successfully treated using CS, which mostly has not been the case. Yes, some folks have reported success with yeast infections by drinking CS. I just had a phone call a week ago from a mother whos daughter is symptom-free from her Candida by frequent ingestion of CS, but I would consider that to be an exception and not the normal experience. I would still like to hear from someone with a gut-yeast problem who mixed CS with DMSO and applied it externally to his/her abdomen on a daily basis. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words.
Dr. Melvin Morse (MD) asserts in his NDE book, Transformed by the Light, that the human aura can be detected by x-ray, and has been recorded by numerous radiologists. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:51 AM Subject: Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words. There does exist an aura imaging camera that translates galvanic skin response? into a picture where the frequencies [colors] are assigned by a computer program and placed into a location on the picture..but the frequencies of 'vibrations' are not measured by the device. There may or may not be a coincidence of meaning. Very pretty pics though. Interesting enough to justify spending $20 on one now and then. So far as I've ever seen, aura readers are psychics [who are sometimes quite amazing, I know one or two good ones...sometimes not, I've met quite a few suspected frauds] and no machine has ever detected an aura. The missing leaf portion phenomenon ala Kirrilian photography is interesting, at least indicating that a conductive pathway 'memory' may exist...or that physical structure follows an energetic, perhaps standing wave, pattern which could well be extra dimensional. Ode At 05:08 PM 8/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: Would this device possibly be monitoring the energy frequencies emanating from the body's chakras, its seven spiritual energy centers, or from the aura, the body's energy envelope? Shall we go off-list with this? - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: CSFrequency and the meaning of words. CSFrequency and the meaning of words. From: Matthew McCann PE Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:20:22 ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The human body simply does not generate signals around 50MHz that can be measured with a frequency counter, oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, or any other similar instrument Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and its clinical application Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) make use of RF emissions from spin transitions of hydrogen nuclei, carbon-13 nuclei and other nuclei with suitable spins. These RF emissions are often in the range of 15 to 800 megahertz. Best regards, Matthew NMR requires expensive high power magnets, extensive shielding, and very carefully designed drive signals. If these are absent, there are no signals to measure. We are talking about signals spontaneously generated by the human body, or bottles of oil, or lumps of soil. The BT3 instrument described by Tainio does not measure these signals. They do not exist: http://www.tainio.com/ir/frqmonitor/index.htm Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsignals and frequencies
...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the words, *signal* and *frequency*. Royal Rife declared that all organisms had a specific frequency that they operated at (or existed at). By bombarding and overloading that organism (is this case, specific types of pathogens) with a strong signal set at that pathogens frequency, what Rife called a sympathetic vibratory response would occur, and that particular pathogen would, essentially, vibrate to pieces. Live blood cell microscopy has demonstrated Dr. Rifes assertion. There is the well-known phenomenon of shattering a wine glass using a strong audio signal set at a specific frequency. What determines what frequency it takes to shatter a wine glass? The frequency that glass, or even that particular glass, exists at and responds to. Dr. Carey Reams asserted that all objects in the universe operated at specific frequencies, living or inanimate. He said that each organ in the body, and each food that we eat, have their own frequency. In this case, frequency is referring to molecular oscillations, how many times electrons rotate around the nucleus of each molecule, the combined, sympathetic frequencies of all the molecules in an organ or food or object, etc. To say that the body or foods do not emit a signal is to assume that all signals are measurable or even known. As far as these devices that are being sold as measuring instruments, I cannot say. If they are claiming to measure known phenomena (radio waves, etc.), and no one else can duplicate these measurements, then that is suspect. To say that living organisms do not emit a signal of any kind, I would have to disagree. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGenerous CS usage
I have posted in the past about my own generous usage of CS, and how I put it in everything I can, from ice cube trays to pancake batter to soup to frozen fruit juice. The net result of this is that my children NEVER get sick. No colds, no flu, no runny noses, no sore throats, no ear infections, nothing. Recently, a client who had purchased one of my 5-gallon per hour CS-making units called me to report how her daughter was doing. Her daughter has been nearly incapacitated from Candida yeast infection. She has tried everything her doctor suggested, with zero benefits. After her mother received my unit and began brewing large amounts of CS, she supplied her daughter with all she could drink. I had suggested her daughter mix drops of 35% food-grade hydrogen peroxide into the CS an idea I believe is effective but she didnt have any H202, so used just CS. Her daughter is drinking CS like water were talking glassfuls per day - and as long as she does, she can eat foods she could not before, she has more energy, sleeps better, and is delighted with how she feels. This highlights a dynamic I have noticed before. It may very well be that, with CS, more is better. One of the Silver-list members has experienced tremendous benefit against her MS, as has one of her friends, plus another friend with Lupus, by drinking 16-24 oz/day of CS. Another customer who purchased a 10-gallon per hour unit called me with great enthusiasm to report that all her animals get CS each day - she has a kind of holistic animal retreat and they are all doing wonderful. She supplies CS to all her friends and family, and has begun to discover all the many ways to use CS in everything from food to laundry to plants to bath to pool to whatever she will think of next. I submit that, rather than being careful with the use of CS, there is a whole dynamic that comes into play when CS is used generously. Sincerely, Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute RR1 Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 voice/message 413-826-7641 fax service msi...@yahoo.com __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS/amoebas
I'm currently doing a parasite cleanse for what my naturopath/chiropractor diagnosed as the microscopic kind. If amoeba falls into this category, and its true as I've heard on this list that CS doesn't get far enough into the gut to do any damage to beneficial flora (and therefore maybe not not to amoeba in all cases), then you may need to take other botanicals. My protocol includes olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, enzymes and a couple of other combo products one of which contains MSM--taken for 10 days, followed by a 7 day break, and then 10 more days to take care of the egg/cyst reproduction cycle. I'm just about to start the second phase of the remedies and must say I do feel better. If anyone would like more detailed information on the specifics of this protocol, I'd be glad to post a more comprehensive list of the ingredients. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGoing ahead with the silver
Odd tastes can be due to the distilled water picking them up from other bottles it is stored with. Paul H - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: CSGoing ahead with the silver Good luck. I also hope the camphor/menthol taste you mentioned does not indicate harmful contamination. I'm relatively new here, going on 2 years, but I've never ever heard anyone mention such a taste to CS before. If you ever find out what it is, please let us know. But I am confused as to why you don't ask the person who is making it for you to give you complete info as to how he makes it, what kind of water he uses, does he add anything? I won't take anything if I don't know EXACTLY what it is. However, I don't have as serious a health problem as you, so I have the luxury. In your place, I might be willing to take anything, too. Perhaps there is a listmember who is also in Canada, who would send you a sample of their homemade EIS, so you would have a comparison? I have both a Silverypuppy www.silverpuppy.com and a Silvergen SG-6 www.silvergen.com and am very happy with both. For heaven's sake don't waste your money on the pride unit. My 2 cents: Get something with some real tech and bells and whistles to it, like one of the two I mentioned. Both are great value for the money, and both of the makers have solid CS knowledge and experience and will help if you have any problems whatsoever. sol Gehna Hogan wrote: Hello all :), thanks for the responses. I am going ahead with the silver the man gave me, and see how I do. He said he would make it for me for a month or so, see how I do. It had the camphor taste. I seem to be ok, nothing else to compare it with, unless I bought a bottle in the health store to compare it to. Not sure if I want to do this. IF, I do decide to try some from the health store, what is a good brand in CANADA, that I can get from a health store? I think I saw one that was called North of Forty. I dont think there will be harm from it, the camphor taste, hope not. If I do decide to buy a machine, where is the best place to buy one? I am in Canada, BC. Thanks, Gehna __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Realists are the pins in a room full of fantasy balloons.
Re: CSRe: CS-Archive help-Lyme Disease
Diabetes may also be caused by the oils in processed foods http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/DiabetesDeception.html . Paul H - Original Message - From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: CS-Archive help-Lyme Disease There's a good article on http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/8/thyroid_health.htm about the fats and oils in our processed foods, their relation to the thyroid, our vitality, and contributing also to (quote from Mercola's aforementioned site) ... symptoms such as cold hands and feet, low body temperature, sensitivity to cold, a feeling of always being chilled, headaches, insomnia, dry skin, puffy eyes, hair loss, brittle nails, joint aches, constipation, mental dullness, fatigue, frequent infections, hoarse voice, ringing in the ears, dizziness, loss of libido, and weight gain, which is sometimes uncontrollable. It might help also. Christine From: Scott Maryanne Powers pow-...@ameritech.net -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomputer virii and worms
Norton products are IMHO horrible. They clog up your system and are next to impossible to uninstall without editing the registry. To run Scandisk or Defrag without those messages, start in Safe Mode (usually press F8 while rebooting and select Safe Mode) then start Scandisk or Defrag, then when done, restart in Normal Mode. Paul H - Original Message - From: G K Murray kg...@sasktel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: Re: CScomputer virii and worms Hi Bill, It's funny you should mention it, as I seem to have the same problem when I run Norton Internet Security during a full scan. It seems to be working to protect the machine and I can do daily virus updates but It wont do a full system scan saying I'm out of virtual memory. Something seems to be working in the background to slow it down. I have run other virus scans from different webbed based sites and they say it is clear. I'm curious as to what you find out. I do know that Zonealarm interferes with almost any security program or firewall, and sometimes mail programs. G Murray William Missett wrote: Chuck: I'm running Trend Micro. Can you run it with Grisoft, Zone Alarm, etc. at the same time? At the moment, I have difficulty running Scandisk because of interference from other running programs, when none are open. Beats me. Thanks, Bill - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:34 PM Subject: Re: CScomputer virii and worms Bet you're running anti virus software now, huh? If not, or need a GOOD FREE one that auto magically updates, I Use http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php The free edition is at http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/ In addition, a firewall will keep hackers away. Zone Alarm is one of the best. A free version is at http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/trial_zaFamily/trial _zaFamily.jsp?lid=2home_freedownloads A text-based newsreader is a lot safer than a web browser. HTML is for the clueless... I use Agent, it's the best. A free version (Freeagent)is available at http://www.forteinc.com/agent/support.php That's pretty much all you need besides common sense. Remember, safe hex!!! Chuck BTW, your messed up drive couldn't be reformatted? That's the usual fix. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: Does this taste funny to you? On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:51:17 -0700 (PDT), Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote: Recently I passed by my computer monitor. The screen was blue and it said rewriting line so and so and then another and another, etc. After this, the poor thing was so messed up no amount of restoring the system did much good. So we wound up with a new hard drive, a lighter wallet, and no saved messages or favorites. I suppose it was a worm or virus of some sort. I don't think the lines of code (I presume it was code--only thing I know of that goes with 'lines of') would be rewritten otherwise. I am continuing to get attachments with emails that I report to yahoo as spam and of course don't open. Most of them say 41, but sometimes 40, as the size. I get 5 or 6 such messages a day sometimes. So I guess we are under assault here. I will try to get my son to use Firefox or Opera or something else as the Big M has so many holes I also doubt they can ever fix it. Too, too bad. Can it be possible that the 'powers that be' don't even want us to have internet access! ?! ? Nothing would really surprise me as I have read a lot of history books. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
CSsignals and frequencies From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the words, *signal* and *frequency*. Hi Terry, Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. Here is my statement There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil. ... However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic we were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio BT3 system. An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by plants, bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the frequencies and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
You are quite correct Garnet, that's all the research shows, no effect on normal blood pressure, and some have found that reducing salt increases mortality from heart attacks http://www.saltinstitute.org/28.html . Others claim that if you drink enough water you can take as much salt as you like, and that raised BP is a symptom of dehydration http://www.watercure.com/cure8.htm . Others claim that we are all deficient in real, unprocessed salt http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm . Remember that for every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert ;-) Paul H - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: RE: CSLyme Disease It is my understanding that those with high BP may lower it by lowering salt intake. But the converse is not true that salt will give people high blood pressure. Garnet On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:59, JS Campbell wrote: Tel and Catherine and anyone else, do you know if these levels of salt recommended in this regime-see link below- (12grams a day) are safe to take? Would they not be a problem for BP and kidneys? Plus Books has posted recently about the benefits of potassium chloride as opposed to sodium chloride and that we are not getting enough potassium therefore surely this regime would make that situation worse? Best wishes, Sheila -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFwd: CSauto-immune disease
You might wish to check out Godzilla - a blood electrification device in the Yahoo Group microelectricitygermkiller http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ . Good results have been reported for Hep A and B, so I see no reason why C would not be similarly affected. You might also try the Beck Protocol - CS, magnetic pulser, blood electrification and drinking ozonated water http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/whatisbp.htm . I would definitely try these before poisoning myself with allopathic drugs. Paul H - Original Message - From: Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: CSFwd: CSauto-immune disease Putting this post back out there hoping to get a bite/comment or two. Any takers? --- Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSauto-immune disease Greetings. I've posted prior re Hep C and have been taking my homemade silver for awhile, but haven't reached the pinnacle of health. I have experienced times of marked improvement though. Recently I have symptoms that led me to research auto-immune disease ( severe raynauds, joint pain/inflammation, headaches) and came across the Antibiotic/anti-inflammatory meds treatment. Specifically it looks like they suggest tetracycline type antibiotics and Benicar (a hypertensive) for the inflammation, which is supposedly protecting the offending micro-organisms from immune activity, and worse, inflicting great amounts of inflammatory agents. That's my quick and dirty understanding, but I am excited at the prospect because my symptoms were very debilitating (the raynauds and fatigue) and saw no prospect of a treatment - from alt med or the MD. The clincher that caught my attention was the connection between vit D/sunshine exposure, and symptoms. Also, I managed a prescription of Benicar, and noticed an immediate and profound cessation of pain symptoms. So, please kind folk, any feedback? I specifically wonder if the silver will now have access to the microorganisms that are supposedly hiding out in the granulomas. Since I have started the Benicar and not the antibiotic I may notice a herx reaction if that is true. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/amoebas
I had giardia, and several years of drinking CS every day did not affect this. Hulda Clark's parasite program helped, but did not eliminate it. In the end I took a course of antiprotozoal drugs from the doctor, which made me very sick, but worked. I suffered diarrhea and GI cramps for several years, then developed chronic fatigue. All these symptoms disappeared after I took the antiprotozoals, 15 years after I caught the giardia in Egypt. Stool tests were positive, then negative after I was treated, 15 years ago, but are notoriously unreliable, so I clearly still had it. Paul H - Original Message - From: William Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:21 PM Subject: CSCS/amoebas I've posted to the list in the past that CS kills amoebas, among the many other things that it does dispose of. I just want to pass on my latest amoeba adventure: I ate an old piece of chicken on a Sunday night, and by Monday thought I had a case of salmonella. I started taking industrial doses of Microdyn (a swig out of a liter bottle every three hours for three days) and within 36 hours had put the salmonella at bay. But then it came back. So I upped my dosage and the number of days I took it, and the same thing happened. This went on for 8 weeks, and the only time I felt human was when my CS dose was maxxing. I finally went to a lab, and a doctor, and he said my intestinal tract was clean as a whistle except for amoebas. I don't know the life cycle span for amoebas, but they apparently were hatching eggs (or whatever amoebas do) on a longer cycle than my CS dosing. Or maybe CS just does not entirely kill this particular type of amoebas, just the adults. But it is clear, given the potency of Microdyn, that amoebas are pretty much impervious to CS. For the record.
CShumor
A man walked into a Doctor's office. What do you have? the receptionist asked. Shingles, he said. She told him to sit down. Soon a nurse called him and asked, What do you have? Shingles. he replied. She took his blood pressure, weight and medical history. Then she took him into a room and told him to undress. After a few minutes the Doctor came in and asked, What do you have? Shingles, the man said. The Doctor examined him and said, Where? Out on the truck. Where do you want me to unload them? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Signals and frequencies
Me thinkth sometimes we struggle to hard for 'proof' which is limited by our current instruments of measuring. Remember the 'old wives tales' that chicken soup was good for ya if ya had the flu, and finally someone in Russia validated it. The 'old biddies were right! Dahh... It had worked for decades with screaming, sick, vomiting children... Folk Lore? or Self preservation... the old women were not dumb! They raised us. My family doctor chuckled as he explained the science of anti-biotics verses soup. The soup was cheaper and neg. no side effects. Who cares? It worked! Sometimes it might be useful to try something that many attest works, validate a legend, then try to confirm the science behind the 'legend'. The problem for science is people like me. If something works I use it. When my brother was born in the 50's doctors told mothers that children knew nothing until after 2 yrs old. He understand 'plug in the vacumm cleaner'. She questioned the professional advise. I remember when science said animals had no emotion. Ask any kid if that's true. And technically bees were too heavy to fly. Later, our techies science found explanations ... The link to stepping out of the lab and finding nature (what Tesla listened to) might be insightful. http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/spirit.htm - Thanks Dan for this link. Now. Computer off. I'm going for a walk and think about water. Dr. Masaru Emoto http://www.cymaticsource.com/water.html Christine Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and its clinical application Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) make use of RF emissions from spin transitions of hydrogen nuclei, carbon-13 nuclei and other nuclei with suitable spins. These RF emissions are often in the range of 15 to 800 megahertz. Best regards, Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
At 10:29 AM 8/15/04, you wrote: There is the well-known phenomenon of shattering a wine glass using a strong audio signal set at a specific frequency. What determines what frequency it takes to shatter a wine glass? The frequency that glass, or even that particular glass, exists at and responds to. Your talking about the resonant frequency of matter. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Resonance This has nothing to do with an energy that an object transmits or exists at. Its the speed at which an object will sympathetically vibrate physically when mechanically or electrically stimulated at or near the frequency its particular physical makeup will move at. Objects do not vibrate at their resonant frequency unless externally stimulated mechanically or electrically at or near its resonant frequency. A frequency meter would not be capable of determining resonant frequency. David Bearrow www.addaphonejack.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
Evening David, Your talking about the resonant frequency of matter. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Resonance I thought this to be the phonema that causes bridges and towers to collapse. Upon closer examination, this is not the same thing. When studying bridges, 20 years ago, before I constructed a 53 foot suspension bridge, I came across many interesting incidents. Here is one example of a bridge that collapsed in a 45 mile per hour breeze. http://cems.alfred.edu/students98/sonnevnj/TACOMA.HTML I have had a number or ornery problems to solve due to vibrations. Often a part would be vibrating and causing objectionable noise when the root cause was not the part that was vibrating. It would be a part somewhere else on the machine such as a bearing, pulley, gear or belt that was causing the problem. The vibration of one part shows up as the vibration of another. Sound, vibration, and mechanical resonance are closely related. Many people have missed the basic definition of sound. Ask knowledge people and see what they tell you. The best definition I have found is, The disturbance of matter from equilibrium. I have suspected that these people are measuring body emissions are reading noise or something else and calling it frequency. Do you think it could be a loose screw in one's head causing the big toe to vibrate? Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsignals and frequencies
Hello, Wayne, You constructed a 53-foot suspension foot bridge? There must be an interesting story why and how you came to do this! Care to share? Matthew
Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words.
Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words. From: Jim Meissner Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:09:22 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72465.html Dear Mike: Where on earth did you find the url? I googled for an hour and came up empty. I was trying to find the datasheet and specifications - if you have the url, please post it!!! I found the 1.3 GHz Hand Held Frequency Counter in my MCM (www.mcminone.com) catalog page 572 of catalog 48. It is a Tenma 72-6605. Price is $204.75. No wonder I couldn't find it. Tenma doesn't make a 3GHz counter: http://www.mcmb2b.com/cgi-bin/test/counters1.html The input A that is specified to be used in the instructions is 1 megohm input impedance with 25 pF shunt capacitance. So the 50 ohm noise calculation is not valid for 1 megohm. The frequency response of input A is 5 Hz to 25 MHz. So he is measuring 60 - 90 Mhz on a range that is only specified to go to 25 MHz. The web page talks about a completely different counter than the one shown in the photos. Just for fun, let's go through the calculations and verify Bruce's accuracy. For that, we'll need an equation solver called Mercury, written by Roger Schafley, who also wrote Borland's Eureka. Boy, oh Boy, if I ever need something calculated I will call on you. Nah - I'd be happy to check your calculations, but you'll have to do them yourself:) Give Mercury a try - you might find it easier than you think! http://archives.math.utk.edu/software/msdos/calculus/mrcry209/mrcry209.zip Thank you Mike. Thank you, Jim. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Mold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets
Re: CSCS: Mold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets From: Ode Coyote Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 05:29:05 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72458.html In the old days, people used to boil their clothing. Could that be one reason for it? Ode Hi Ken, Thanks for the reply, and to all who answered this thread with good info. I have been soaking my bedding in hypochlorous acid for 4 hrs, then heating in a microwave for 30 minutes while turning them over every ten minutes. This makes them hot enough to generate steam, but it's important to put them in a sealed plastic container - otherwise they will develop hot spots and catch fire. I got the idea of using hypochlorous acid from the EPA: http://www.ehso.com/bleach.htm and from an agricultural article: http://www.agnr.umd.edu/MCE/Publications/PDFs/FS715.pdf This seems to work for most spores, but leaves several types unharmed. I tried different dilutions with little effect except to burn holes in the cloth:) I'm pretty sure that Vellux blankets would not survive this treatment. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets
Hi Mike, Have you considered moving to a drier climate that doesn't favor mold? For instance, I live in an area that has a low humidity, 25 average rainfall (that seems to always come at the wrong times), fairly hot at about 100 degrees average in the hottest time in the summer etc. The advantage of this climate is you don't suffer during the summer with humidity and I'm sure it doesn't favor mold. And, there are areas with even lower humidity. Jean Baugh *** I have been soaking my bedding in hypochlorous acid for 4 hrs, then heating in a microwave for 30 minutes while turning them over every ten minutes. This makes them hot enough to generate steam, but it's important to put them in a sealed plastic container - otherwise they will develop hot spots and catch fire. I got the idea of using hypochlorous acid from the EPA: http://www.ehso.com/bleach.htm and from an agricultural article: http://www.agnr.umd.edu/MCE/Publications/PDFs/FS715.pdf This seems to work for most spores, but leaves several types unharmed. I tried different dilutions with little effect except to burn holes in the cloth:) I'm pretty sure that Vellux blankets would not survive this treatment. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: CSsignals and frequencies CSsignals and frequencies From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the words, *signal* and *frequency*. Hi Terry, Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. Here is my statement There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil. ... However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic we were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio BT3 system. An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by plants, bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the frequencies and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSinfo re BB and Jason too
Has anyone any additional information about these two men? I hope they are doing well. We need to hear that they are ok. pj - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.
Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets
CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:13:46 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72485.html Hi Mike, Have you considered moving to a drier climate that doesn't favor mold? For instance, I live in an area that has a low humidity, 25 average rainfall (that seems to always come at the wrong times), fairly hot at about 100 degrees average in the hottest time in the summer etc. The advantage of this climate is you don't suffer during the summer with humidity and I'm sure it doesn't favor mold. And, there are areas with even lower humidity. Jean Baugh Hi Jean, Thanks for your comment. Yes, perhaps a dryer climate would help. Unfortunately, the high temperature makes people sweat, which provides an excellent source of moisture for mold to grow in their cotton clothes. And that's my problem:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words.
Dear Mike: The web page talks about a completely different counter than the one shown in the photos. The picture on the Tainio website is identical with the Tenma 72-6605. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 4:20 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words. Re: CSRe: SOFrequency and the meaning of words. From: Jim Meissner Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:09:22 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72465.html Dear Mike: Where on earth did you find the url? I googled for an hour and came up empty. I was trying to find the datasheet and specifications - if you have the url, please post it!!! I found the 1.3 GHz Hand Held Frequency Counter in my MCM (www.mcminone.com) catalog page 572 of catalog 48. It is a Tenma 72-6605. Price is $204.75. No wonder I couldn't find it. Tenma doesn't make a 3GHz counter: http://www.mcmb2b.com/cgi-bin/test/counters1.html The input A that is specified to be used in the instructions is 1 megohm input impedance with 25 pF shunt capacitance. So the 50 ohm noise calculation is not valid for 1 megohm. The frequency response of input A is 5 Hz to 25 MHz. So he is measuring 60 - 90 Mhz on a range that is only specified to go to 25 MHz. The web page talks about a completely different counter than the one shown in the photos. Just for fun, let's go through the calculations and verify Bruce's accuracy. For that, we'll need an equation solver called Mercury, written by Roger Schafley, who also wrote Borland's Eureka. Boy, oh Boy, if I ever need something calculated I will call on you. Nah - I'd be happy to check your calculations, but you'll have to do them yourself:) Give Mercury a try - you might find it easier than you think! http://archives.math.utk.edu/software/msdos/calculus/mrcry209/mrcry209.zip Thank you Mike. Thank you, Jim. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
At 04:41 PM 8/15/04, you wrote: Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. The plant emitted no energy at any frequency. Cleve used a galvanometer to measure resistance. Plants can change their resistance but emit no energy. Don't get your terms mixed up. The plant had a variable resistance, NOT a transmission of energy at a certain frequency. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMold, / Ozone generator
Try a really good ozone generater as a Flair by Eco Quest in Greenville Tn. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:13:46 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72485.html Hi Mike, Have you considered moving to a drier climate that doesn't favor mold? For instance, I live in an area that has a low humidity, 25 average rainfall (that seems to always come at the wrong times), fairly hot at about 100 degrees average in the hottest time in the summer etc. The advantage of this climate is you don't suffer during the summer with humidity and I'm sure it doesn't favor mold. And, there are areas with even lower humidity. Jean Baugh Hi Jean, Thanks for your comment. Yes, perhaps a dryer climate would help. Unfortunately, the high temperature makes people sweat, which provides an excellent source of moisture for mold to grow in their cotton clothes. And that's my problem:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
An interview with Backster is here: http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html Paul H - Original Message - From: William Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: CSsignals and frequencies Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion.
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
Thanks for that link. It was a fascinating interview which goes far beyond anything I've read about the man. - Original Message - From: Paul Holloway To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: Re: CSsignals and frequencies An interview with Backster is here: http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html Paul H - Original Message - From: William Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: CSsignals and frequencies Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion.
Re: CSsignals and frequencies
Evening David, Plants can change their resistance but emit no energy. Don't get your terms mixed up. The plant had a variable resistance, NOT a transmission of energy at a certain frequency. Plants have fever, like humans. Temperatures change. Typically, resistance must change with temperature changes. A number of years back, you could buy an instrument for checking the temperature of plants without physical contact. In the hands of a skilled operator, one could tell if the plant had problems or it was performing its daily tasks without difficulty. Also plants, when feeding are moving nutrients around. At times they take up water and virtually no nutrients. Depends on what mood they are in. Logically, this would account for resistance changes. I would think this would vary from 100% sunlight to 25 % sunlight due to changes in transpiration. Does the lie detector use two electrodes? Seems it would have to. Fortunately, I suppose, I have never seen a lie detector or had a test. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSauto-immune disease
The Lancet, one of the most prestigious medical journals, had a cover-essay on this issue not long ago.It was long overdue, and I look forward to reading the full text; I have seen only reviews of it. Bottom line: too many studies are funded by companies that want the results to be a certain way. This inherent conflict-of-interest is shocking and creates a deep sense of distrust. JBB On Sunday, Aug 15, 2004, at 14:00 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Just because you find an on line source that appears to be Right on Target, be aware that a large percent of the information is the result of biased studies that were funded by drug companies or done by doctors and scientists that have been bought and bribed by them. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGoing ahead with the silver
I am increasingly disturbed by the taste coming from the large soft PET bottles my DW arrives in. It is a good grade of DW, but I can taste and smell some plastic in the water; this is the typical soft translucent plastic used for milk. I distrust it enough that I just got a stovetop distiller that I hope will generate DW good enough to use the the SG6; we'll see. The e-bay seller has at least one more unit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4319022692ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 I won for 84 bucks. Worth a try if you think you could use one of these distillers. The company no longer makes them BTW. NB even glass influences DW; colleagues who use lots of DW in nutrition studies say the pH is routinely different from that stated on the label if not used immediately.I do not know what leeches out of brown glass but clearly something does. JBB On Monday, Aug 16, 2004, at 01:54 Asia/Tokyo, Paul Holloway wrote: Odd tastes can be due to the distilled water picking them up from other bottles it is stored with. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFrequency Questions
List, I followed the discussion of frequency and resonance with some interest, and would like to suggest a source that may be helpful to many persons: Y. Omura, M.D. Much of Omura's work is available online. Google a bit and you will find his English page. It is in the archives also; I don't have time to dig it up right now, sorry. Bottom line: Omura's work, if you believe it, as I do, and as do many reputable MD's (I am not one), shows the following: 1) A pure molecular sample of a substance has some sort of basic frequency that influences the human body and can be measured by a kinesiological test called the Bi-Digital O-Ring Test. It is patented. It took three tries and the testimonials of many MD's to get the patent. 2) A trained human being can identify an unknown substance by matching it with a known substance.This is called a molecular resonance test, and also involves the 0-Ring check. I have no time to write more but an amazing amount of material is available in English online.Omura's brilliant research should be of great interest to those who followed the frequency/resonance thread. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerous CS usage
Terry, I second your suggestions. You are right on. Nancy DeLise (the MS patient mentioned below). PS I now have over 100 people with MS on the mend. - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: CSGenerous CS usage I have posted in the past about my own generous usage of CS, and how I put it in everything I can, from ice cube trays to pancake batter to soup to frozen fruit juice. The net result of this is that my children NEVER get sick. No colds, no flu, no runny noses, no sore throats, no ear infections, nothing. Recently, a client - who had purchased one of my 5-gallon per hour CS-making units - called me to report how her daughter was doing. Her daughter has been nearly incapacitated from Candida yeast infection. She has tried everything her doctor suggested, with zero benefits. After her mother received my unit and began brewing large amounts of CS, she supplied her daughter with all she could drink. I had suggested her daughter mix drops of 35% food-grade hydrogen peroxide into the CS - an idea I believe is effective - but she didn't have any H202, so used just CS. Her daughter is drinking CS like water - we're talking glassfuls per day - and as long as she does, she can eat foods she could not before, she has more energy, sleeps better, and is delighted with how she feels. This highlights a dynamic I have noticed before. It may very well be that, with CS, more is better. One of the Silver-list members has experienced tremendous benefit against her MS, as has one of her friends, plus another friend with Lupus, by drinking 16-24 oz/day of CS. Another customer - who purchased a 10-gallon per hour unit - called me with great enthusiasm to report that all her animals get CS each day - she has a kind of holistic animal retreat - and they are all doing wonderful. She supplies CS to all her friends and family, and has begun to discover all the many ways to use CS in everything from food to laundry to plants to bath to pool to whatever she will think of next. I submit that, rather than being careful with the use of CS, there is a whole dynamic that comes into play when CS is used generously. Sincerely, Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute RR1 Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 voice/message 413-826-7641 fax service msi...@yahoo.com __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFwd: CSauto-immune disease
At 02:02 PM 8/14/2004 -0700, you wrote: Putting this post back out there hoping to get a bite/comment or two. Any takers? So, please kind folk, any feedback? I specifically wonder if the silver will now have access to the microorganisms that are supposedly hiding out in the granulomas. Since I have started the Benicar and not the antibiotic I may notice a herx reaction if that is true. Try using CS with 1/3 Gatorade for a while. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBoils, What are they?
I have a friend who had boils at frequent intervals. I always thought these to be mean bacteria, maybe a type of staphylococcus. When I worked for IBM in the Late 50's and early 60's we wore white shirts and ties. Several times, I got boils on the back of the neck. The doctor I selected to do the minor surgery told me that these bacteria were everywhere, on money, door knobs, typewriters, and virtually everything else. He believed that the starched shirts were rubbing the bacteria into the root of a hair. We had short hair back in those days. Would a few ounces of CS a few times per day help? I always felt this was a weakness in the immune system. I have had one or two of these in recent years. The immune system, in every case, did a fantastic job in short order. They never made the big hard spots like they did when I was in my 20's. These things can be a thorn in the side or a pain in the rear, depending on the location. Wayne
