Re: CS Blue blood myth

[Ode Coyote]

 Argyria was such
a common occurrence among the royalty that it earned
them the name blue-blood.

##  I would really like to see this myth either proven or put to rest.

 There are many much better reasons that royalty would be called blue
bloods and incidence of argyria in silver mine/foundry etc workers where
they injest dust all day long is about one in 2 thousand according to one
of the researchers in the Colloidal Silver collection of Gov't documents
[none of which studied CS in any form] who had great difficulty in
creating or finding subjects to study...and that, back in pre OSHA days.

Blue Blood
1834, translating Sp. sangre azul, claimed by certain families of
Castile as uncontaminated by Moorish or Jewish admixture, from the notion
of the visible veins of people of fair complexion.
Unlike so many other expressions, this one is well documented. It’s a
direct translation of the Spanish sangre azul. Many of the oldest and
proudest families of Castile used to boast that they were pure bred, having
no link with the Moors who had for so long controlled the country , or
indeed any other group. As a mark of this, they pointed to their veins,
which seemed bluer in colour than those of such foreigners. This was simply
because the blue-tinted venous blood showed up more prominently in their
lighter skin, but they took it to be a mark of their pure breeding. So the
phrase blue blood came to refer to the blood which flowed in the veins of
the oldest and most aristocratic families. The phrase was taken over into
English in the 1830s.

 Royal Blue from the rarity of Indigo dyes, thus too expensive for the
commoner to wear.
Popularity and economic value of the plant reached a peak during the Middle
Ages, when indigo was the most important dye plant for blue color in the
western portion of the world.

 It's highly unlikely that silver particles becoming lodged in capillaries
causes argryia.
 Silver metal is resistant to most acids and it's unlikely that 'Blue
Bloods' commonly  had the technology to make silver ions.
 Nitric acid did exist by 800 AD, but just how common was it?

Think about it:
Your blood doesn't leak out of your lungs or stomach, therefore, any
particle has to be smaller than a blood cell to 'get in'.
 If it can't get in, it can't become 'lodged' in a capillary, won't if it's
smaller than a blood cell and did get in ...and... can't get out if it
didn't get in.

Ode


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Re: CSSilver particles in the lungs

[Ode Coyote]

  We don't generally chase cars either, but a car will still make a mess of
a person if it's caught.
Ode


At 10:58 AM 8/15/2005 EDT, you wrote:

In a message dated 15/08/2005 11:21:58 GMT Daylight Time, 
odecoy...@alltel.net writes:

we are not dogs.
and we dont inhale silver dust either

 Subj: Re: CSSilver particles in the lungs
 Date:  15/08/2005 11:21:58 GMT Daylight Time
 From:  odecoy...@alltel.net (Ode Coyote)
 Reply-to:  A
HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 An experiment done by Phalen and Morrow circa 1974? discounts that 
 idea.
 
  They had dogs inhale finely ground silver dust and 94% of it was found
 in their poop within 30 days.
 
 
 Ode
 
  


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Re: CSEFT instructions

[Waddle986]

Nenah

Could I have a copy too? Thanks

Waddle

In a message dated 8/11/2005 7:01:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:

 Nenah Sylver said,
 I
 have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you
 how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in
 the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it.
 
 

inline: Eagle.jpg

CSRe: Silver particles in the lungs

[jrowland]

Abstract: Pulmonary and Systemic Distribution of Inhaled Ultrafine Silver 
Particles in Rats

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2001/suppl-4/547-551takenaka/abstract.html
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CSUnidentified subject!

[Terry Chamberlin]

Marshall said,
Silver particles are converted to silver oxide and
silver hydroxide in the lungs over time, which are
then absorbed into the blood steam and then converted
back to silver particles and excreted.  This is
preformed by the lungs producing small amounts of
hydrogen peroxide which reacts with the silver
particles.

Can you cite any sources for this statement? I have
read this kind of idea on more than one occasion. Is
this established scientific fact or educated speculation?

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CSCS in blood

[Terry Chamberlin]

Marshall said,
Now for the chemistry of silver in the body. If
silver salts reach the blood stream

Is this info from any specific lab research or your
own personal theory? I'm not rejecting it as not being
true, but would like to know where it comes from.

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Re: CSSilver particles in the lungs

[VEGANEXUS256]

In a message dated 16/08/2005 13:42:28 GMT Daylight Time, 
odecoy...@alltel.net writes:

no connection to arguement.
i win again
 Subj: Re: CSSilver particles in the lungs
 Date:  16/08/2005 13:42:28 GMT Daylight Time
 From:  odecoy...@alltel.net (Ode Coyote)
 Reply-to:  A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
   We don't generally chase cars either, but a car will still make a mess of
 a person if it's caught.
 Ode
 
  


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Re: CS Blue blood myth

[Sandee George]

Thanks Ode for clearing this one up !  :)
Regards
Sandee

The one who accomplished it is the one
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Re: CSEFT instructions

[ruth strackbein]

Hi! I tried to download the Eagle site, all I got was a picture of an eagle! Ruth
From Ruth Strackbein


From: waddle...@aol.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSEFT instructionsDate: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:06:51 EDTNenahCould I have a copy too? ThanksWaddleIn a message dated 8/11/2005 7:01:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:
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CSSilver particles in the lungs

[Info - Silver Colloids]

Nanometer size silver particles introduced into the lungs will be absorbed
into the blood stream. Particles that are to large to be absorbed will be
ionized (converted into ionic form) which will then be absorbed.
 
The lungs have macrophages whose purpose is to clear particles that may
become caught in the lung tissue. The macrophages produce H2O2 (hydrogen
peroxide) which dissolves silver particles too large to be absorbed
directly. Once dissolved (converted to ionic form) the silver is then
absorbed.
 
See: http://nic.sav.sk/logos/books/scientific/node23.html
 
We know of thousands of users of nanoparticle colloidal silver who have
successfully used nebulized silver in the lungs for bacterial, fungal and
viral infections.
 
 
Frank Key
www.Silver-Colloids.com
 
 

CSCustomer

[Marshall Dudley]

I think I gave you this fellow's name before, but he just called to get your
phone number again, so I think he is about to order.  His name is Dr. George
Hern of North Carolina.

Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CSCS teeth

[Marshall Dudley]

Teri Johnston wrote:

 At 12:23 PM 8/15/2005, you wrote:

 Do you have any caps or dental work?  I tried soaking my dentures in
 C/S made with SG 7 and it stained them with black streaks.  This
 cleaned off with Hydrogen Peroxide.

 Teri

If there was a film on them that had certain chemicals in it, like caffine,
this could happen.  Try adding a small amount of acid, such as white vinegar
or citric acid to the CS when you put the dentures in them.  If this is what
is happenig, that should stop the developmental plate out.

Marshall


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CSSubject headings

[Dan Nave]

Mike, 

Could we get the two posts by Terry Chamberlin reposted with
appropriate subject headings so they are more easily searchable?  This
is good information which will be buried beneath a ton of other
information, good and bad.  I notice escribe is throwing away more and
more subject headings...

Thanks,

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Re: CSRe: Silver particles in the lungs

[Marshall Dudley]

Great.  Confirms that silver particles do indeed end up getting converted to
a compound and dissolved for removal from the lungs.

Marshall

jrowland wrote:

 Abstract: Pulmonary and Systemic Distribution of Inhaled Ultrafine Silver
 Particles in Rats
 http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2001/suppl-4/547-551takenaka/abstract.html
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Re: CSCustomer

[Trem]

Hi Marshall,

I'll be looking for him.

Best regards,

Trem

 Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:11 AM
Subject: CSCustomer


I think I gave you this fellow's name before, but he just called to get 
your
phone number again, so I think he is about to order.  His name is Dr. 
George

Hern of North Carolina.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CSSilver particles in the lungs

[Richard Harris]

Thank you, Frank for this and the other valuable items that you and the
other Experts share wo unselfishly with us seekers!
This is very valuable information and explains things we haven't reasoned
out.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


  -Original Message-
  From: Info - Silver Colloids [mailto:in...@www.silver-colloids.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:43 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSSilver particles in the lungs


  Nanometer size silver particles introduced into the lungs will be absorbed
into the blood stream. Particles that are to large to be absorbed will be
ionized (converted into ionic form) which will then be absorbed.

  The lungs have macrophages whose purpose is to clear particles that may
become caught in the lung tissue. The macrophages produce H2O2 (hydrogen
peroxide) which dissolves silver particles too large to be absorbed
directly. Once dissolved (converted to ionic form) the silver is then
absorbed.

  See: http://nic.sav.sk/logos/books/scientific/node23.html

  We know of thousands of users of nanoparticle colloidal silver who have
successfully used nebulized silver in the lungs for bacterial, fungal and
viral infections.


  Frank Key
  www.Silver-Colloids.com

Re: CSEFT instructions

[Nenah Sylver]

Hi folks.
In the cut-and-paste realm of email, it appeared that I offered the file. I 
didn't.


Nenah


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSEFT instructions


Nenah

Could I have a copy too? Thanks

Waddle

In a message dated 8/11/2005 7:01:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:




Nenah Sylver said,

I

have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you
how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in
the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it.





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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 Marshall said,
 Silver particles are converted to silver oxide and
 silver hydroxide in the lungs over time, which are
 then absorbed into the blood steam and then converted
 back to silver particles and excreted.  This is
 preformed by the lungs producing small amounts of
 hydrogen peroxide which reacts with the silver
 particles.

 Can you cite any sources for this statement?

I previously cited sources for the information that hydrogen peroxide is
produced under two conditions in the lungs.  For both hypooxygenization and
hyperoxygenization of lung tissue the tissue will produce H2O2.  The lungs
have several methods of clearing foreign particles.  They have the cillia,
to do direct transport out, and they produce hydrogen peroxide to oxidize
and dissolve foreign particles. These cites should be in the archives.

 I have
 read this kind of idea on more than one occasion. Is
 this established scientific fact or educated speculation?

Although educated speculation, it is on quite firm theoretical grounds.
First we have the information that under both low oxygen conditions, like
if you have a significantly sized particle blocking the air to tissue, the
lung tissue will produce H2O2.

Second we can surmise that large particles will cause hypooxygenzation, and
smaller particles are known to be an oxidizing catalyst that would trigger
hyperoxygenization, so both mechanisms for producing H2O2 could be
triggered depending on particle size.

We know from our experiments that H2O2 produces silver hydroxide and silver
oxide, both of which have a solulibility of about 13 ppm, and we know that
soluble salts will be absorbed into the blood stream via the lungs.

We know that silver particles do indeed get dissolved into the blood
stream, so they must be reacting with something.  After years of searching,
dilute H2O2 is the only thing we have ever come up with that will do this
and will not attack living tissue.

So the only chemical I have been able to find that the lung tissue produces
to dissolve foreign objects is H2O2, and the only thing we know of that
will dissolve silver that is not highly corrosive is H2O2, and silver
particles in the lungs DO get dissolved, makes it extremely likely that the
process is done via H2O2.  If anyone can come up with anything different I
would like to hear about it.

Marshall



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Re: CSCustomer

[Marshall Dudley]

Darn, That was suppose to have been private to Trem.

My apologies.

Marshall

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I think I gave you this fellow's name before, but he just called to get your
 phone number again, so I think he is about to order.  His name is Dr. George
 Hern of North Carolina.

 Thanks,

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Re: CSEFT instructions

[Merywolf7]

I would love to have a copy of the EFT instructions as well please.
Thanks so very much
Marian


Remembering Merry


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Re: CSCS in blood

[Marshall Dudley]

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 Marshall said,
 Now for the chemistry of silver in the body. If
 silver salts reach the blood stream

 Is this info from any specific lab research or your
 own personal theory? I'm not rejecting it as not being
 true, but would like to know where it comes from.

Silver salts can cause argyria, and are expelled by the kidneys.  The only
way that can happen is if they reach the blood stream. There is a number of
cites that show that they can cause argyria, and there are cites and
experimental results that show that they are expelled by the kidneys.  Thus
silver salts can and do reach the blood stream.

Marshall


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Re: CSSubject headings and E-scribe

[M. G. Devour]

Dan, group,

There is some arcane technical problem that is causing the Subject 
heading to get lost on some posts. It's not just a problem with e-
scribe, Dan. We're all seeing it.

Aside from that, e-scribe appears to be down right now, too. sigh

Dan wrote:
 Could we get the two posts by Terry Chamberlin reposted with
 appropriate subject headings so they are more easily searchable?  This
 is good information which will be buried beneath a ton of other
 information, good and bad.  I notice escribe is throwing away more and
 more subject headings...

If and when there's a resolution to either problem, I'll be as glad as 
anybody.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSCustomer

[M. G. Devour]

Thought so, Marshall! Thanks for noting the error.

Be well,

Mike D.
(upholding the non-commercial nature of the list...)

 Darn, That was suppose to have been private to Trem.
 
 My apologies.
 
 Marshall
 
 Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
  I think I gave you this fellow's name before, but he just called to
  get your phone number again, so I think he is about to order.  His
  name is Dr. George Hern of North Carolina.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Marshall

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Re: CS Blue blood myth

[aKa Jhon]

thanks,, again ,,'race  is now a four letter word, facts overrule 
political correctness




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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS Blue blood myth



Argyria was such

a common occurrence among the royalty that it earned
them the name blue-blood.


##  I would really like to see this myth either proven or put to rest.

There are many much better reasons that royalty would be called blue
bloods and incidence of argyria in silver mine/foundry etc workers where
they injest dust all day long is about one in 2 thousand according to one
of the researchers in the Colloidal Silver collection of Gov't documents
[none of which studied CS in any form] who had great difficulty in
creating or finding subjects to study...and that, back in pre OSHA days.

Blue Blood
   1834, translating Sp. sangre azul, claimed by certain families of
Castile as uncontaminated by Moorish or Jewish admixture, from the notion
of the visible veins of people of fair complexion.
Unlike so many other expressions, this one is well documented. It's a
direct translation of the Spanish sangre azul. Many of the oldest and
proudest families of Castile used to boast that they were pure bred, 
having

no link with the Moors who had for so long controlled the country , or
indeed any other group. As a mark of this, they pointed to their veins,
which seemed bluer in colour than those of such foreigners. This was 
simply

because the blue-tinted venous blood showed up more prominently in their
lighter skin, but they took it to be a mark of their pure breeding. So the
phrase blue blood came to refer to the blood which flowed in the veins of
the oldest and most aristocratic families. The phrase was taken over into
English in the 1830s.

Royal Blue from the rarity of Indigo dyes, thus too expensive for the
commoner to wear.
Popularity and economic value of the plant reached a peak during the 
Middle

Ages, when indigo was the most important dye plant for blue color in the
western portion of the world.

It's highly unlikely that silver particles becoming lodged in capillaries
causes argryia.
Silver metal is resistant to most acids and it's unlikely that 'Blue
Bloods' commonly  had the technology to make silver ions.
Nitric acid did exist by 800 AD, but just how common was it?

Think about it:
Your blood doesn't leak out of your lungs or stomach, therefore, any
particle has to be smaller than a blood cell to 'get in'.
If it can't get in, it can't become 'lodged' in a capillary, won't if it's
smaller than a blood cell and did get in ...and... can't get out if it
didn't get in.

Ode


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CSCScampylobacteriosis

[rose]

hi list,

i can't get the archive page to load and i need info on if silver will kill
campylobacteriosis, and if so how much.  naturally we are using it anyway but
would like information if possible.  two dogs have come down with this in two
days and now i am feeling pretty clammy also.

any help much appreciated,

a rose...