Re: CSCancer file
nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. And where would one find one of those? MA You could possibly grow your own- Raintree Nursery carries them sometimes, though they seem to be out of stock at present. http://www.raintreenursery.com But what is different about these plums? Perhaps any plum would work. Methley bears very heavily for me. Nancy W. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer file
Hi Nancy, The plums are considered a condomint for seasoning foods such as brown rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of ketchup, or mustard, hot sauce in its stead. Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a plum to a whole. They are not usually eaten alone. Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, and riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to digestion, stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and enhancing the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract. If a persons digestive system is sensititve or compromised just one plum eaten alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an entire day. Best regards, Carol Ann Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. And where would one find one of those? MA You could possibly grow your own- Raintree Nursery carries them sometimes, though they seem to be out of stock at present. http://www.raintreenursery.com But what is different about these plums? Perhaps any plum would work. Methley bears very heavily for me. Nancy W. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Best regards, Carol ___ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: CSadvise with new generator
My daughter's dog has seizures, what have you found out that helped??? Also with the skin condition also what helped? Thanks Mary -- Original message from feather...@netscape.net: -- Hi, i am wishing for some wisdom using my new silver gen colloidal silver maker. Im an old mom who in the past months learned for the first time about colloidal silver. I researched it and decided to try the brand sovereign silver for my 4 old dogs on their old skin problems, ear infections and to help one who has had seizures. The results were impressive, and my family began to use it as a daily supplement and on our skin with good results. This became way too expensive so i ordered the silver gen for $200. It came on time, and a call to the company with questions resulted in a prompt and pleasant conversation, the generator has worked perfect my first 3 times, and i enjoy having an abundance of the colloidal silver without the burden of great expense. Now, i find myself wondering if i should be testing each batch, if i should use the same dosage as with the sovereign silver...which comes with dossage instructions unlike the silver gen, and if wiping the silver elcectrodes ! with a paper towel as instructed is enough of a cleaning...as the silver electrodes have a whitish coating now after the first uses. I have the setting just past the center point for ppm, and am using arrowhead steam distilled water. I need a scientist in my kitchen to advise me?:)...or i proceed with faith? Thanks for any wisdom , advise, encouragement from you pros on the silver list:) I would like to share my extra with others but dont have the confidence in what im doing yetbut, i sure thank God for His wonderful silver that helps with so many, many things! best regards to all of you from a new member of the list...nancy __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSadvise with new generator
Using my SG6 and testing with a Hanna PWT after every run, it shows 14-16uS (high setting) consistently. stuff At 10:37 PM 11/18/2005, nancy wrote: Hi, i am wishing for some wisdom using my new silver gen colloidal silver maker. Im an old mom who in the past months learned for the first time about colloidal silver. I researched it and decided to try the brand sovereign silver for my 4 old dogs on their old skin problems, ear infections and to help one who has had seizures. The results were impressive, and my family began to use it as a daily supplement and on our skin with good results. This became way too expensive so i ordered the silver gen for $200. It came on time, and a call to the company with questions resulted in a prompt and pleasant conversation, the generator has worked perfect my first 3 times, and i enjoy having an abundance of the colloidal silver without the burden of great expense. Now, i find myself wondering if i should be testing each batch, if i should use the same dosage as with the sovereign silver...which comes with dossage instructions unlike the silver gen, and if wiping the silver elcectrodes ! with a paper towel as instructed is enough of a cleaning...as the silver electrodes have a whitish coating now after the first uses. I have the setting just past the center point for ppm, and am using arrowhead steam distilled water. I need a scientist in my kitchen to advise me?:)...or i proceed with faith? Thanks for any wisdom , advise, encouragement from you pros on the silver list:) I would like to share my extra with others but dont have the confidence in what im doing yetbut, i sure thank God for His wonderful silver that helps with so many, many things! best regards to all of you from a new member of the list...nancy __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSadvise with new generator
Wipe them off under running water as soon as you take them out of your batch before it dries. - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Re: CSadvise with new generator My daughter's dog has seizures, what have you found out that helped??? Also with the skin condition also what helped? Thanks Mary -- Original message from feather...@netscape.net: -- Hi, i am wishing for some wisdom using my new silver gen colloidal silver maker. Im an old mom who in the past months learned for the first time about colloidal silver. I researched it and decided to try the brand sovereign silver for my 4 old dogs on their old skin problems, ear infections and to help one who has had seizures. The results were impressive, and my family began to use it as a daily supplement and on our skin with good results. This became way too expensive so i ordered the silver gen for $200. It came on time, and a call to the company with questions resulted in a prompt and pleasant conversation, the generator has worked perfect my first 3 times, and i enjoy having an abundance of the colloidal silver without the burden of great expense. Now, i find myself wondering if i shou! ld be testing each batch, if i should use the same dosage as with the sovereign silver...which comes with dossage instructions unlike the silver gen, and if wiping the silver elcectrodes ! with a paper towel as instructed is enough of a cleaning...as the silver electrodes have a whitish coating now after the first uses. I have the setting just past the center point for ppm, and am using arrowhead steam distilled water. I need a scientist in my kitchen to advise me?:)...or i proceed with faith? Thanks for any wisdom , advise, encouragement from you pros on the silver list:) I would like to share my extra with others but dont have the confidence in what im doing yetbut, i sure thank God for His wonderful silver that helps with so many, many things! best regards to all of you from a new member of the list...nancy _! _ Switch to Netscape Internet Ser! vice. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSWater Oz
From Ruth Strackbein Thanks Marshall, I was tempted to buy some of this since it is locally available. The dosage was sending a warning signal, but it is good to know more specifically. Ruth From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:58:04 -0500Water oz is silver citrate, and implicated in a number of cases of argyria from what I understand. You can easily make you own by putting some citric acid into the water when you try to make CS, but I would not recommend it. Marshall ruth strackbein wrote: From Ruth Strackbein: To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like many of you do. Thanks for any information. Ruth-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
From Ruth Strackbein, Thanks to you, too, Mike. I am in process of getting my steam distiller fixed. That is step one toward getting equipped to make cs. Ruth From: "M. G. Devour" mdev...@eskimo.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:11:04 -5Ruth Strackbein writes: To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like many of you do. Thanks for any information.That's consistent with our experience, Ruth. A couple of people we knowof developed mild cases of argyria by using Water Oz in quantities inexcess of that recommended by the manufacturer.It's a much higher concentration than the stuff we generally talk abouthere. It's been analysed and shown to be a silver compound, which isthe only thing that allows it to be of higher concentration to beginwith.Yes, it's unsafe to use Water Oz in too large quantities.Whether it's safe to use in smaller quantities is something I,personally, am not interested in finding out, particularly when lowconcentration, pure silver colloid/ionic preparations are easily andcheaply made at home with simple equipment and have so far failed toproduce similar problems.Be well,Mike D.[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian][mdev...@eskimo.com ][Speaking only for myself... ]--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comSilver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comOT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.htmlList maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Langsley said, In the case of EIS or ionic silver the ion has lost one electron resulting in a positive charge. Hence, ions of silver are one atom of silver minus one electron. They measure 0.000252 microns/micrometers across. Their size does not vary. Technically ions are not particles of silver, those, in our context, are colloids. We are not talking about a colloid but an ionic solution. Therefore the term particles, though convenient, does not really apply. Actually, we need to be using commonly-accepted scientific terms so that we do not speak our own proprietary language which a normal scientific professional would not understand nor agree with. You said, Technically, ions are not particles of silver those are colloids. But ions ARE particles if we use the scientific definitions. Notice: http://physics.tamuk.edu/~hewett/ModPhy1/Unit2/Duality/ParticlesWaves/Particles/Particles.html 1. Properties of Particles: position, velocity, mass, electric charge, spin, color, momentum, energy, etc. 2. Classical particle: An object of negligible size and structure compared to all other distances pertaining to the physical situation. 3. Fundamental particle (or ideal particle): A point-like perturbation or local disturbance in space that retains its identity for an extended period of time. Also notice: ion An ion is an atom or group of atoms in which the number of electrons is different from the number of protons. If the number of electrons is less than the number of protons, the particle is a positive ion, also called a cation. If the number of electrons is greater than the number of protons, the particle is a negative ion, also called an anion. A compound, as well as individual atom, can be ionized. A common example is nitrate, which consists of a nitrogen atom and 3 oxygen atoms (NO3) in the form of an anion; this is symbolized NO3- because it normally has a surplus of a single electron. http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,289893,sid9_gci859894,00.html So silver-nitrate is ionic, yet it causes argyria. I recognize that in the past we have attempted to differentiate between silver particles in suspension and those in solution by calling the first colloids/particles and the second ions. But, using the standard definition of a particle, ions are also particles. You stated about ions, that, They measure 0.000252 microns/micrometers across. Their size does not vary. How did you arrive at this definition? Is this a fact accepted by standard scientific usage? Please provide references. Based on standard scientific definitions, I would have to disagree with the above definition of an ion. This does not enable us to clearly differentiate between one size and another size of silver particle. We want to be able to easily refer to the action of silver when it is smaller than a certain size (smaller than a colloid) because we are convinced that there is no danger of any kind from silver particles of this size. The term, colloidal silver, technically, not surprisingly, refers only to a genuine colloid. That is, particles of silver suspended in a liquid, generally distilled water. Now, particles in a colloid can and do really vary in size. These particles are typically in the range of .001 to .100 micrometers, orders of magnitude larger than ions. But we recognize that every colloidal particle has a charge. This is part of what holds it in suspension. Each particle, having the same charge, repels every other particle like the two positive ends of two magnets repel each other. We further understand that when a colloidal particle loses its charge it falls out of suspension or aggregates to another particle. So, in fact, every colloidal particle is also an ion. These two words, ions and colloids (or particles), are entirely inadequate to distinguish between large and small silver particles. When we use the word, *ionic*, we usually mean particles even smaller than colloids, even too small to refract light (a silver solution that has no Tyndall effect is considered to be mostly or completely ionic). But, in fact, *ionic* simply means a particle with a charge (number of electrons is different from the number of protons), and particle size is irrelevant. Everything we brew is *ionic* silver, since the DC process we use charges the particles. Two scientists, Robert H. Demling Robert E. Burrel, have reported on the properties and efficacy of extremely small silver particles, which they are calling Nanosilver. Note: The property of matter depends on size and many of the chemical and physical characteristics change significantly when matter is reduced in size. Nanotechnology is a general term that refers to a relatively new frontier of scientific endeavor. The prefix nano signifies one-billionth. Therefore, a nanometer is one-billionth of a meter, a nanogram is one-billionth of a gram. Ten hydrogen atoms placed side by side measures one nanometer in length.
CSumeboshi
Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where ume is usually translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It has several organic acids with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of alkalizing the body. 1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration in any fruit) of citric acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline minerals from other foods that would otherwise not be absorbed. 2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron, calcium, potassium, manganese, etc.) 3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our blood and tissues. 4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the detoxifying action of the liver. 5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in the intestines as well as the digestion of proteins. 6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect. This information comes from the Kushi Institute. Matthew
RE: CSadvise with new generator
Hi Nancy, If you want total confidence in what you are making and what you give away invest in a PWT meter. Then, test the distilled water before you use it and test the finished CS each time. I was buying good distilled water that measured pure each time I bought that brand. They once made a bad batch that showed up at several of our local stores that measured 20 microseimens. I would have made some CS that was not nearly as good as it should have been had I not been testing the water prior to making my CS. Since I have my own PWT, it's very easy to test each finished batch and I always do that. The cost of the PWT seems like a lot at first, but since this is a lifetime project it's really not much in the big scheme of things. Best Regards, Vince -Original Message- From: feather...@netscape.net [mailto:feather...@netscape.net] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSadvise with new generator Hi, i am wishing for some wisdom using my new silver gen colloidal silver maker. Im an old mom who in the past months learned for the first time about colloidal silver. I researched it and decided to try the brand sovereign silver for my 4 old dogs on their old skin problems, ear infections and to help one who has had seizures. The results were impressive, and my family began to use it as a daily supplement and on our skin with good results. This became way too expensive so i ordered the silver gen for $200. It came on time, and a call to the company with questions resulted in a prompt and pleasant conversation, the generator has worked perfect my first 3 times, and i enjoy having an abundance of the colloidal silver without the burden of great expense. Now, i find myself wondering if i should be testing each batch, if i should use the same dosage as with the sovereign silver...which comes with dossage instructions unlike the silver gen, and if wiping the silver elcectrodes ! with a paper towel as instructed is enough of a cleaning...as the silver electrodes have a whitish coating now after the first uses. I have the setting just past the center point for ppm, and am using arrowhead steam distilled water. I need a scientist in my kitchen to advise me?:)...or i proceed with faith? Thanks for any wisdom , advise, encouragement from you pros on the silver list:) I would like to share my extra with others but dont have the confidence in what im doing yetbut, i sure thank God for His wonderful silver that helps with so many, many things! best regards to all of you from a new member of the list...nancy __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply
I did a little digging around and the statement except for the 413, which have apparently entered the meat industry isn't quite accurate... what I found wasn't much more reassuring, though one report from MSNBC says 21 could not be traced and another 147 were slaughtered (and could have ended up in food or feed)... another report from the Dallas Morning News says 208 went into the feed and slaughter channels, entering the food supplywhich boils down to a whole lotta questionable cows in any case 1) The federal government closed its investigation in August, saying it could not pin down how the cow became infected with the brain-wasting ailment. The Agriculture Department and the Food and Drug Administration traced 413 animals and reported that 147 herd mates and offspring were presumed to have been slaughtered for food, livestock feed or other use, and that 21 could not be traced. The USDA killed and tested 67 animals, all of which tested negative for mad cow disease. (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9897243/) 2) The Dallas Morning News on Tuesday obtained details about the search for the 413 cows and calves under a Texas open records request. About 350 of the cows, or roughly 85 percent, were sent to slaughter.Inspectors had to trace 213 calves in their hunt to find two that were recently born to the diseased cow. They never were able to specifically identify the two calves but did say that 208 went into feed and slaughter channels, entering the food supply. Four more probably did. One calf was untraceable. If they're fairly confident that the group they identified as the progeny was complete and if nearly all of them were slaughtered, chances are the progeny was eaten by a human being, said Tom McGarity, a professor of food safety law at the University of Texas School of Law and president of the Center for Progressive Regulation. Those details give him pause, he said. While mad cow is not necessarily transmitted to offspring, it is quite possible that a mad cow got in the food supply. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-madcow_03bus.ART.North.Edition2.1d2ee1ef.html - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply This just came in from a friend. I am forwarding this not to promote fear, but to advise caution and common sense. If you forward this, please remove my name and email address. Thanks. ***Beginning of message*** I was recently visiting my mother in California and read the morning paper she had sitting on the kitchen table. I was surprised to see an article, small and not on a front page (duh) that stated they had found Mad Cow diseased cattle in Dallas. There are 413 cows that have been 'lost.' Apparently, many cows lose their ear tags when being transferred, and are just retagged. The group was accounted for except for the 413, which have apparently entered the meat industry! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer file
The are actually Japanese apricots that have been soaked in sea salt for three years. Nancy DeLise - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:38 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. And where would one find one of those? MA You could possibly grow your own- Raintree Nursery carries them sometimes, though they seem to be out of stock at present. http://www.raintreenursery.com But what is different about these plums? Perhaps any plum would work. Methley bears very heavily for me. Nancy W. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005
