Re: CSRe: RE: CStechnical question
It distributes the silver evenly throughout the water so that it does not build up near the anode and cause excessive particle size and aggregation. Marshall Smitty wrote: # What does stirring do to CS during a brew ? Smitty On 11/22/06, Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Increasing the surface area of the electrodes would *decrease* the effective *resistance* between the electrodes which would *increase* the *current* between them, all other things being equal (electrode spacing, voltage, type and amount of water remaining the same in both examples). Hopefully, your power supply has the capacity to supply the increased current and your CS brewing would proceed at a faster rate. Moving the electrodes closer together will also increase the current. You may have to add stirring at some point if the currents get too high. Is that what you were asking about? Dan From: Peter M. Stellas [mailto:stel...@foxinternet.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStechnical question My power supply generates 30 volts DC at 0.400 milliamps. If I were to substantially increase the surface area of the electrodes, would that alone serve to decrease the current between the then available electrode area?? Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
Sol, I am not a cancer patient and don't want to introduce an off-topic subject on this forum. But if a person is suffering from cancer it is good to look at all possible alternatives, and also to be aware that mixing different protocols can be, and is often counter productive. I became deeply involved with this last year in a desperate attempt to save my dog whom I dearly loved. It essentially has to do with eating correctly, getting lots of sun and taking flaxseed oil in a certain formula. Now studies are coming out of Universities and research centers confirming bits and pieces of her protocol, without putting it all together, as she did 50 years ago. It does seem too simple to work, though Dr. Budwig explains it in terms of biochemistry and quantum physics. Testimonials come from doctors and clinics in Germany, and from many people on a different forum who are cancer patients in remission. I follow it because it is a healthy regimen and as a preventive. My urologist recently agreed that flaxseed oil definitely contributes toward prostate health but would not accept that it has curing properties. I am now also drinking a pint of CS a day, as a preventive, instead of vaccinations and medications. I have used it successfully to totally eliminate athlete's foot in about three days. I also used it, along with D-Mannose, to completely get rid of a painful urinary infection. Now I keep a pint at work and take a snort every so often throughout the day. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStechnical question
Dan, Thanks for this great reference. That, and what I got from Ken and others puts me on the road to producing a good generator, although the one I am using now seems to do a fairly good job, as long as I watch the brewing time and clean the electrodes often. Peter Peter, I have attached a post below that explains everything pretty well. (Thanks Jason) Go to www.Mouser.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
A question comes to mind when I read your statement that CS causes cancerous cells to de-differentiate, and return to stem cells. Are you certain that this takes place without the use of current? Simply by drinking CS? Whatever I read about Dr. Becker's research states that this takes place only under the application of precise voltage, depending on the type of wound, but I do not recall any mention of cancer cells de-differentiating by the use of ingested CS. If I missed it please point it out to me. Peter Reference: But it doesn't matter, silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types. This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like warts do). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Ken, I, for one, certainly appreciate your knowledgeable comments, such as the one on ASAP solution and the patent claims. As you know, newbies come on this forum and into this discipline every day and are easily snowed by high-sounding techno-babble, as we try to educate ourselves on this subject. I appreciate and admire your totally unselfish quality, in that you give of your knowledge freely even though it helps someone to make his/her own generator, rather than buying one from you. Peter American Biotech is pretty much infamous for double talk and misleading ad copy. ASAP Solution is good silver water, but not better or significantly different than what you can make yourself. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Re: CSCS generator
De-ionized water is pure, usually more pure than distilled...if it's good DI water. Chemists use DI water *because* it's pure. Distillation is just one way to remove contaminant ions...one way to de-ionize it. But distilled water only need be pure enough to not foul batteries and irons to qualify. It's usually much better than the minimum requirements. Reverse Osmosis water can sometimes be good enough, but not usually. Plain filtered [somehow]..not. Filters can even add contamination to distilled water. Sometimes DI water is called purified water, but the parameters and methods required to meet the definitions are more lax, so that depends on who is writing the labels. Ode At 06:18 PM 11/23/2006 +, you wrote: Nope - believe me I'm quite happy to take advice - will keep looking for didtilled water if it's necesary. BTW What happens if you just use filtered or purified water. I'm curious to know what I would end up with. Cheers Kirsteen On 11/23/06, Sandee George mailto:oha...@juno.comoha...@juno.com wrote: Hi There - I am sorry to tell you that De-ionized water and steam distilled water are not the same - if you use the di-water you will end up with a mess however do not listen to me try it and see what result you get !!! Regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset Home - 61893676734 cel - 61421540908 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.commdev...@eskimo.com -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006
Re: CSRe: Re: CSCS generator
In this discussion of terminology, please remember that the original poster was yet another member from the UK, where distilled water is *NOT* readily available as it is here. Rather, our previous experience is that their nearest equivalent is called by a different name and only available (at considerable expense) from the chemist's. Many have found the best approach to be buying their own distiller. Be well, Mike D. Ken wrote: De-ionized water is pure, usually more pure than distilled...if it's good DI water. Chemists use DI water *because* it's pure. Distillation is just one way to remove contaminant ions...one way to de-ionize it. But distilled water only need be pure enough to not foul batteries and irons to qualify. It's usually much better than the minimum requirements. Reverse Osmosis water can sometimes be good enough, but not usually. Plain filtered [somehow]..not. Filters can even add contamination to distilled water. Sometimes DI water is called purified water, but the parameters and methods required to meet the definitions are more lax, so that depends on who is writing the labels. On 11/23/06, Sandee George wrote: Hi There - I am sorry to tell you that De-ionized water and steam distilled water are not the same - if you use the di-water you will end up with a mess however do not listen to me try it and see what result you get !!! Regards Sandee [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCaring Government at work
WASHINGTON, Nov. 23 (UPI) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency plans to require environmental safety guarantees from makers of products containing silver nanoparticles. The tiny particles are used in a wide range of products like shoe liners, food containers and even washing machines to kill bacteria and eliminate odors. Critics say the particles, when released into the environment, can destroy microscopic organisms including beneficial bacteria. The EPA decision this week was a change of course from previous decisions that nanoparticles do not require regulation. A number of substances, including carbon and gold, behave differently when split into particles a tiny fraction of the width of a human hair. While the EPA decision on silver does not affect other nanomaterials, it is the first on any of them. Nanotechnology can mean so many different things, said Andrew Maynard of the Project on Emerging Nanotechnologies at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Specific examples like this will gradually help us make clear decisions as to whether existing regulatory approaches are adequate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Frequency can tweek the process from favoring oxide production to favoring hydroxide production. ode At 04:57 PM 11/23/2006 -0400, you wrote: Friends, From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean. A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch A without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey beard on the cathode. If we have an identical batch B (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but instead of accumulating it is, in every switching of the polarity, solving into the water, aside from the ions and colloidal particles being produced. If, after batch A is finished, the current is stopped and the electrodes left in the produced EIS, after a few seconds the cathode beard starts turning into a cascade mostly dissolving in the produced batch, and a smaller part sedimenting at the bottom of the glass jar. If this is the case, the only basic difference between A and B would be cleaner electrodes in B. Both will have a determined ammount of silver oxide incorporated, instead of being cleaned off at intervals during the process. Regards Carlos _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006
Re: CStechnical question
Peter, Just to help you many others understand wall adapter current ratings better: Your transformer is actually a transformer and a rectifier combination that puts out DC power. It only puts out the current that the load consumes. Open circuit, your transformer puts out zero current. It is capable of putting out up to 0.4 amps, if the load resistance is low enough. Typically in home brew CS applications you will be drawing currents 100 to 1000 times less than your wall adapter is capable of producing. As most wall adapters are unregulated devices, under the light loads of a CS generator, the output voltage will be up to about 1.4 times higher than that stated on the label. Your sentence would be more correct if you said my transformer is capable of putting out 0.4 amps. --Steve - Original Message - From: Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: RE: CStechnical question You are right, my transformer is putting out 0.400 amps not milliamps. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Carlos, In practice, it takes a finite amount of time, every time the polarity is switched, for the flow of ions to stop and reverse direction. During that time, ion production is less. So in practice, a polarity switched setup will produce less silver in solution than an unswitched version, keeping all other parameters the same. Some people, myself included, just switch electrodes every batch to keep electrode wear the same, and don't bother with the extra complication of polarity switching. Going another step, if you reduce the constant current to about 0.2 milliamp (0.0002 amp), so that your production takes 24 hours, you can eliminate stirring as well. The normal Brownian movement of the water will be all the stirring that is needed. If you need higher production, your wall adapter can run up to hundreds of 1 quart CS generators at the same time, each consuming only 0.2 milliamp. Just add a 0.2 ma constant current diode in series with each quart brewer connect them all to your wall adapter. An ppripriate diode is 1N5283 (0.22 ma), available from Mouser. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it. Friends, From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean. A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch A without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey beard on the cathode. If we have an identical batch B (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but instead of accumulating it is, in every switching of the polarity, solving into the water, aside from the ions and colloidal particles being produced. If, after batch A is finished, the current is stopped and the electrodes left in the produced EIS, after a few seconds the cathode beard starts turning into a cascade mostly dissolving in the produced batch, and a smaller part sedimenting at the bottom of the glass jar. If this is the case, the only basic difference between A and B would be cleaner electrodes in B. Both will have a determined ammount of silver oxide incorporated, instead of being cleaned off at intervals during the process. Regards Carlos _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpups Blood-Brain barrier
No, from what I can determine ionic silver is even suppose to be blocked. Marshall Ronald ( Susan) wrote: From what you read- is there a particle size limitation to the blood brain barrier that blocks the CS? Ron Marshall Dudley wrote: CHERYL HOLMES wrote: Doesn't CS kill rabies? I've used it in animal rescue for years and have seen it kill distemper and more/ I use it straight no water added in their water dishes when I know they've come from the pound, are looking ill or are illI use it in my water and my dogs water dishes too.. as an additive. Yes it does. But it also usually does not pass through the blood brain barrier from what I can read, and if that is the case, once rabies gets to the brain, the CS will not get to it. Marshall --- http://www.HartAmerica.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
The Body Electric by Robert Becker. Marshall Ronald ( Susan) wrote: I've never heard of CS causing a injured or misbehaving cell to revert back to a stem cell. Can you direct me to sites, articles, studies, etc. that support that? Ron Marshall Dudley wrote: marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: SNIP silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types. This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like warts do). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: But it doesn't matter, silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types. This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like warts do). ## If I understand you correctly, you believe that Colloidal Silver can cure cancer. Personally, I think this is a stretch. And I think we need to be very careful making claims like this. Even here on this list where we have a group of very open-minded people, there are surely newcomers who are just beginning to accept the possibility that CS can cure external infections, and colds, etc. Claims that it can cure cancer could send them running. We should not deny it if it can. To do so would deprive some people of a possible cure for an otherwise hopeless situation. We have had reports here of members who have reported recovering from cancer using CS although it has been a long time ago.. Robert Becker as documented in The Body Electric found that all cancer cells change back to normal cells when exposed to ionic silver. Dr. Bjorn Nordstrom, of the Karolinska Institute, Sweden, has used silver in his cancer treatment method. He says the whole thing is quite simple. This brought rapid remission in patients given up on by other doctors. Here are some people who believe that CS has helped or cured cancer: http://www.colloidal-silver.com/cancer.htm ** ** Not sure what you mean by that. They (tumors) are often infected with viruses. ## Is this a matter of semantics? Tumors can be caused by viruses -- but the tumor itself is not *infected* with a virus. I mean that the tumor, especially cancer, is often caused by a virus. For instance cervical cancer is generally caused by HPV. They often are infected by viruses. ### Again -- can be caused by a virus. Yes, they can be caused by viruses. If they are caused by viruses then the first step toward a cure would be to kill the virus, which CS will do. If you don't kill the virus, yet still shrink the tumor, the it will be highly likely for the tumor to recur. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1012890.stm http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/news/story.asp?newsId=51 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3669271.stm http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/260803breastvirus.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11537776/ http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/news/pressreleases/2003/july/39371 http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/ng.asp?id=63186-mmtv-cancer-recombinant-dna If they were normal, they would not be abnormally growing. ## Granted. But it's the growth factor that is the abnormality. It is a genetic problem that is the abnormality, whether caused by a virus or not. Fix the genetic problem, and the growth factor will normalize. And it is NOT just a growth factor problem, cells are suppose to only be able to divide a certain number of times, the DNA also must have this limitation overridden to produce a cancer. There is killed, and there is healed. CS kills viruses, which are controlling the DNA, and it heals damaged DNA by getting it to revert back to stem cells. ## I can see where that could occur in a wound where CS has direct access to tissue that is already trying to repair itself. But the physiology of a tumor is different. The tumor itself, and the cells within it, cloak themselves with the tissue of normal cells. That's why the body's own immune system does not attack a tumor -- it doesn't recognize it as a threat. That's also why Laetrile is effective as a cancer treatment -- it strips the cloaking away, leaving the malignant cells exposed for the immune system to recognize and deal with. But there are those who have found that CS does cause the reversion of cancer cells back to normal cells, such as Becker. I have never heard of that mechanism for Laetrile, from what I understand cancer produces a chemical that converts laetrile to cyanide, and the cyanide kills the cancer cells. I don't see how Colloidal Silver would recognize and alter what the immune system cannot. But that's simply my opinion which is offered as a response, and is not intended to be antagonistic in any way. The silver can penetrate the cell and find and kill the virus. That is how it works, although the exactly mechanism by which it disables viruses is not really understood. As far as causing the cells to become normal cells again, the immune system NEVER does that, it does not even try. If it did, then one would not develop scar tissue in wounds. Silver DOES however reset the DNA switches back to undifferentiated status, so that the cell, absent any corruption such as a virus, will then change back into the type cell is suppose to be. For cancer I would recommend hitting it with
Re: CSWas: CSpups, Now: EPM horses
marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Why don't you simply keep CS in their drinking water all the time? That should prevent any relapses. I wish it was that easy Marshall. We do better than putting CS in their drinking water, where it would be difficult to monitor exactly how much CS they're getting. We give them an average of a quart per day of CS directly into their feed. For years. And they relapse anyway. I don't find that surprising. If the feed has any free sulfur in it, then it would bind with the silver in CS causing it to become ineffective (and proteins in the feed can also combine with it producing a less effective product as well). I believe delivery by water is the most effective method. They relapse while they're getting a quart of CS per day. Somehow, we're not getting all of the protozoa. And we don't know why. But the pattern is pretty reliable -- they're symptom-free in cold weather, and symptoms start up again in warm weather. Any possibility they are being reintroduced in their water. If so, that would be another good reason to put the CS in the water. Marshall They are usually at their worst in the heat and humidity of mid-Summer, then start to normalize again in the Fall. Another thing -- stress can bring about EPM symptoms in an otherwise *cured* horse. We have actually stopped using the word *cure* at all with these horses. We refer to the lack of symptoms as *remission*. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStechnical question
Use a current of a mA per square inch of anode area. Marshall Peter M. Stellas wrote: Thanks Dan, That is the information that I am seeking and we are almost there. The output from my transformer is now at 0.400 amps. I will go for the current regulating diode that you mention, so what value diode must I buy? Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
Peter M. Stellas wrote: Sol, I am not a cancer patient and don't want to introduce an off-topic subject on this forum. But if a person is suffering from cancer it is good to look at all possible alternatives, and also to be aware that mixing different protocols can be, and is often counter productive. You need to look at the protocols to see if they would counteract each other. I am not aware of any alternative protocols that are counter productive to each other, but it is pretty well known that chemotherapy is counter productive to almost all the alternative therapies. That is because although chemo kills the cancer cells outright, it also cripples the immune system. Virtually all the alternative protocols either strengthen the immune system, or depend on the immune system to assist in attacking the cancer. Once you destroy the immune system, most of these protocols become nothing but a waste of money. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
Peter M. Stellas wrote: A question comes to mind when I read your statement that CS causes cancerous cells to de-differentiate, and return to stem cells. Are you certain that this takes place without the use of current? Simply by drinking CS? Whatever I read about Dr. Becker's research states that this takes place only under the application of precise voltage, depending on the type of wound, but I do not recall any mention of cancer cells de-differentiating by the use of ingested CS. If I missed it please point it out to me. Peter That is certainly a good question. Let me answer it in two parts. The current that Becker was using was to generate EIS at the site of the injury. I don't think he indicated that the current had any direct effect, other than generating the EIS. He gave complete credit for the redifferentiation to the silver ions. EIS has been found by our members to be extremely effective in preventing scarring in burns and wounds. This is a good indication that the current is not necessary for this to occur. I personally had the end of my thumb grow back without any scar tissue, and with a new fingerprint by keeping it wet with EIS for several days. This is supported also by the use of some of the new burn creams that contain silver that also appear to prevent scarring. Marshall Reference: But it doesn't matter, silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types. This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like warts do). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Thank you, Steve, for your answer. At this moment I am brewing 1200 ml batches with a huge 250 gr 999 swiss silver ingot that I located here. My cathode is a large stainless steel spoon, placed 75 mm apart, in a very wide mouth glass jar. I was in the process of finding a jeweler to melt the ingot and convert it into silver rods or whatever, and was having difficulty trying to get this made without contamination from gold alloys, and Mike suggested using it as the anode...which seemed to me a very comical but bright idea! I immediately put it into practice, and I like the results very much. Using this method, unattended during 4.5 hours, during the day, no stirring, no cleaning, I am producing cristal clear, no color, no residues, EIS, with an average of around 15 ppm, with a beginning amperage of of 0.5 mA and a final amperage of 2.4 mA, average around 0.84 mA, using 15% from previous batch as a starter. At the end of the process, the spoon (cathode) is covered with a dark grey creamy looking coat of silver oxide, which I easily clean with a paper towel. The ingot anode I also clean the same way, but naturally remains slightly stained. I do not know yet of any way I can leave it totally clean like I do with my thin wire electrodes using slightly abrasive Scotchbrite material, without getting it all scratched. It has high relief lines, seals, numbers and words in it, and I am not planning to sand it all down until it gets smooth. I think the best way to maintain it clean would be changing the polarity. Since I only have one, I have considered simply cutting it in two so that I can have both electrodes identical and that way I can switch polarity from one batch to the other. I have not done it because that way the anode immersed area would be only half and all will change. I am also using the same setup in a one gallon glass mayonnaise jar, electrode spacing 70 mm, and get good results also after 7 hours, but I do not like the final 2.8 mA. As soon as I can I will place in series a current limiting diode, but for this temporary setup with only one huge electrode like mine (around 11x45x42 mm immersed area) I do not have any idea of what should the characteristics be. (I am going to use the trial and error method anyway, and I will begin with the 0.2 milliamperes you suggest...!) Once I can manage to have sent from USA some 10 and 12 ga silver wire, I will have other options. Even though I like very much its simplicity of operation, I have not built your circuit yet due to the lack of adequate electrodes, but they will eventually get here. I am very stubborn and, with the help of all of you friends, I am learning a lot. Best regards. Carlos From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it. Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:05:05 -0700 Carlos, In practice, it takes a finite amount of time, every time the polarity is switched, for the flow of ions to stop and reverse direction. During that time, ion production is less. So in practice, a polarity switched setup will produce less silver in solution than an unswitched version, keeping all other parameters the same. Some people, myself included, just switch electrodes every batch to keep electrode wear the same, and don't bother with the extra complication of polarity switching. Going another step, if you reduce the constant current to about 0.2 milliamp (0.0002 amp), so that your production takes 24 hours, you can eliminate stirring as well. The normal Brownian movement of the water will be all the stirring that is needed. If you need higher production, your wall adapter can run up to hundreds of 1 quart CS generators at the same time, each consuming only 0.2 milliamp. Just add a 0.2 ma constant current diode in series with each quart brewer connect them all to your wall adapter. An ppripriate diode is 1N5283 (0.22 ma), available from Mouser. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it. Friends, From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean. A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch A without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey beard on the cathode. If we have an identical batch B (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but
Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Ode, My only possible frequency at this moment with my provisional setup is one cycle per batch...! I just wanted to know what the difference would be IF I have an automatic control generator... Thank you Carlos From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it. Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:31:44 -0500 Frequency can tweek the process from favoring oxide production to favoring hydroxide production. ode At 04:57 PM 11/23/2006 -0400, you wrote: Friends, From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean. A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch A without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey beard on the cathode. If we have an identical batch B (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but instead of accumulating it is, in every switching of the polarity, solving into the water, aside from the ions and colloidal particles being produced. If, after batch A is finished, the current is stopped and the electrodes left in the produced EIS, after a few seconds the cathode beard starts turning into a cascade mostly dissolving in the produced batch, and a smaller part sedimenting at the bottom of the glass jar. If this is the case, the only basic difference between A and B would be cleaner electrodes in B. Both will have a determined ammount of silver oxide incorporated, instead of being cleaned off at intervals during the process. Regards Carlos _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
RE: CScs generator questions
Dear Peter, It says 150 on it, but it is 2 x 75 ohm units on top of each other. When I check it with my multimeter, it says 90 ohms each, so it is actually 180 ohms, not 150. However, I buy my parts at a surplus store, so they might not be the top of the line. I have it hooked up to only one part, so it would be a 90 ohm potentiometer (variable resistor). I got a diagram from somewhere on a current controlled set up, and went from that. It called for a 100K potentiometer, which you can adjust to control the current. In the diagram, you just hook it up in series. So that is what I do, and it works fine, I get a much better product, but it takes a little more time, which is fine by me, maybe an extra 30 mintues per quart, max. Kathryn Kathryn, What is the rating of your variable resistor? If I can have that description I can search to find one. Thank you Peter Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSquestion on reactions
I am not able to tolerate using much cs at once, in addition, I am not able to tolerate the colored cs I made, only the clear solution, n small amts. When I take too much, I have asthma symptoms, when I take less, I get really thirsty is all. Anybody else get rid of asthma or other allergies with CS? I have only found one reference to it, and it was oblique. Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEncephalitis?
Hi all: Monday afternoon I felt a sudden pain at the very top of my back, like a stiff-neck pain. A bit later I'm getting flu-like symptoms: chills, weak and aching muscles. I immediately start regiment of taking EIS (ca. a quart/day), zap my wrist with a 6-volt lantern battery, take olive leave extract, vit. c. First I thought I cought the flu, but have no chest congestion nor stuffy nose. Tuesday evening tremendous headaches set in. The fever came steadily down from 103 deg. Tuesday and is now just below 100. This is encouraging. What kills me are the headaches. They got better last night and I was sure I've almost beaten this thing. Had a good night's sleep, but this morning they were back with a tender to the touch area on the left of the neck. Don't want to take pain killers, yet, as they would lower the fever which I feel is my ally. In light of all this, and that I have experienced no vomiting, photosensitivity, real stiff neck, what do You knowledgeable people think? Could this be the start or maybe a mild case of encephalitis? Any suggestions what else to try are more than welcome. TIA, Heidi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEncephalitis?
I would be very careful. The symptoms are consistent with encephalitis and spinal meningitis. You do not want to let either go untreated, they can both be lethal. I would most likely have seen a doctor before it got to 103 if it were me (and I am not one to go to a doctor unless there are no other viable options), and would most certainly go see one if it appears to be coming back at all. Marshall hj wrote: Hi all: Monday afternoon I felt a sudden pain at the very top of my back, like a stiff-neck pain. A bit later I'm getting flu-like symptoms: chills, weak and aching muscles. I immediately start regiment of taking EIS (ca. a quart/day), zap my wrist with a 6-volt lantern battery, take olive leave extract, vit. c. First I thought I cought the flu, but have no chest congestion nor stuffy nose. Tuesday evening tremendous headaches set in. The fever came steadily down from 103 deg. Tuesday and is now just below 100. This is encouraging. What kills me are the headaches. They got better last night and I was sure I've almost beaten this thing. Had a good night's sleep, but this morning they were back with a tender to the touch area on the left of the neck. Don't want to take pain killers, yet, as they would lower the fever which I feel is my ally. In light of all this, and that I have experienced no vomiting, photosensitivity, real stiff neck, what do You knowledgeable people think? Could this be the start or maybe a mild case of encephalitis? Any suggestions what else to try are more than welcome. TIA, Heidi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgood pictures of a cheap cs generator
I like this site for the clear examples of simple do-it-yourself setups for colloidal silver making (thanks David). Go to: http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/ click on the link that says FREE D.I.Y. Designs Dan --- * From: * da...@alchemysa.com.au[smtp:da...@alchemysa.com.au] * Sent: * Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:11:59 PM * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com * Subject: * CSgood pictures of a cheap cs generator Actually that pic is off my site. http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/ FREE-DIY.html But I also explain that the electrodes should be off the bottom of the jar and that its not good CS because the white cloudy look of the water indicates that its just tap water, not distilled water. By the way.. This is the first time I've ever seen any picture actually appear in a silverlist digest. Has something changed recently? David On 23/11/2006, at 2:59 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: silver-digest Digest From: CHERYL HOLMES cherylhol...@sbcglobal.net Date: 22 November 2006 3:30:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSgood pictures of a cheap cs generator need 2 jumper wires..this pic from ebay -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion on reactions - Asthma Testimonials
Kathryn, I can't help but wonder about the quality of your CS. How are you making it? Go to http://www.utopiasilver.com/testimonials/asthma.htm Lots of testimonials about asthma after the explantion of what asthma is etc. Nancy... I am not able to tolerate using much cs at once, in addition, I am not able to tolerate the colored cs I made, only the clear solution, n small amts. When I take too much, I have asthma symptoms, when I take less, I get really thirsty is all. Anybody else get rid of asthma or other allergies with CS? I have only found one reference to it, and it was oblique. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver product claims
Hi , Ode, I am not replying to this message, but rather to one from Leann, about her Silvergen stirring mechanism breaking. I am rather interested in the Silvergen. I know that there are far less expensive generators available, but I am not very interested in all the particulars, would like a machine that is automatic. It seems that the stirring mechanism can definitely enhance the cs final result. Do you often have trouble with this part of the machine? I seem to recall that in the exchange about Leann's machine that you offered to fix it for her if she sent it in. I would like some input on this before ordering one. I , also, would like an order page, as I don't like to order over the internet . Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver product claims Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:11:38 -0400 Bandage companies aren't making claims of curing diseases and the fact that ionic silver kills germs has been well known and documented for decades. Mouthwash ads are careful to not say they cure Gingivitis. Kills germs that cause Gingivitis is not a claim of a cure for Gingivitis. By the same token. Kills 650 disease causing germs isn't cures 650 diseases. The former statement is all over the net, the second could get you into trouble. Ode At 12:10 PM 6/26/2006 -0500, you wrote: Companies marketing these types of bandages apparently have no qualms about making claims. I wonder if its because their claims don't involve 'colloidal' silver. http://www.elastoplast.ca/index.php?p=73lang=2 DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 _ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk
CSsiver and cancer
I got your up-date where they were talking about silver and cancer.I was told to go to _www.colloidal-silver.com/cancer.htm_ (http://www.colloidal-silver.com/cancer.htm) but it doen't work. Did I get the address wrong? Thank you, ( I am the one who's girlfriend has a tumor in her jaw right where they took out a wisdom tooth) Please help, thank you..Tim Donahue
CSRe: FW: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re:
I think soft tofu might work as well. Dan --- * From: * sol[SMTP:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] * Sent: * Friday, November 24, 2006 3:41:26 PM * To: * silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com * Subject: * Re: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: Thanks! Yogurt is possible. And I guess one could always learn to make cottage cheese at home, though I have tried and failed several times in the past. So far I've never seen a carrageenan free cottage cheese anywhere, and it just does not make sense to me that a diet for reversing cancer would mandate use of a product containing a known carcinogen. But maybe in europe when the diet was developed cottage cheese was not full of additives, as it now is in the U.S. Marshall Dudley wrote: Yogurt or skimmed milk are said to be an acceptable substitutes for the cottage cheese. Of course if you can't eat dairy, neither of those would help. Marshall sol wrote: Peter, Appreciate the information. I do wonder though, what one could use instead of cottage cheese? For my own info, in case I ever need it. Is there a substitution that people who cannot eat cottage cheese could make? Someone posted about substitution for flaxseed oil.but I can't remember any details. sol -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Off Topic List Web archive is currently down. List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The one important thing I have learned over the years is the difference between taking one's work seriously and taking one's self seriously. The first is imperative and the second is disastrous. -Margot Fonteyn No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.15/550 - Release Date: 11/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.15/550 - Release Date: 11/24/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsiver and cancer
It opened for me want me to send it to you opened?...debbie timsp...@aol.com wrote: I got your up-date where they were talking about silver and cancer.I was told to go to www.colloidal-silver.com/cancer.htm but it doen't work. Did I get the address wrong? Thank you, ( I am the one who's girlfriend has a tumor in her jaw right where they took out a wisdom tooth) Please help, thank you..Tim Donahue - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CSRe: FW: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re:
I'll give the tofu a miss, thanks. I'm beginning to credit soy as a major factor in most of the health problems I have. (check out The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. Daniel). sol Dan Nave wrote: I think soft tofu might work as well. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEncephalitis?
Agreeing with what Marshal has said... However, when taking EIS for an acute condition it would be important to take it often in small doses. I would do a mouthful (1 tablespoon or 1/2 ounce) every half hour. Keep in mouth for 3 to 10 minutes while swishing occasionally, and swallow slight amounts over that time until it is gone. Taper off in frequency as the condition is removed. Dan --- * From: * Marshall Dudley[SMTP:mdud...@king-cart.com] * Sent: * Friday, November 24, 2006 2:45:45 PM * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com * Subject: * Re: CSEncephalitis? I would be very careful. The symptoms are consistent with encephalitis and spinal meningitis. You do not want to let either go untreated, they can both be lethal. I would most likely have seen a doctor before it got to 103 if it were me (and I am not one to go to a doctor unless there are no other viable options), and would most certainly go see one if it appears to be coming back at all. Marshall hj wrote: Hi all: Monday afternoon I felt a sudden pain at the very top of my back, like a stiff-neck pain. A bit later I'm getting flu-like symptoms: chills, weak and aching muscles. I immediately start regiment of taking EIS (ca. a quart/day), zap my wrist with a 6-volt lantern battery, take olive leave extract, vit. c. First I thought I cought the flu, but have no chest congestion nor stuffy nose. Tuesday evening tremendous headaches set in. The fever came steadily down from 103 deg. Tuesday and is now just below 100. This is encouraging. What kills me are the headaches. They got better last night and I was sure I've almost beaten this thing. Had a good night's sleep, but this morning they were back with a tender to the touch area on the left of the neck. Don't want to take pain killers, yet, as they would lower the fever which I feel is my ally. In light of all this, and that I have experienced no vomiting, photosensitivity, real stiff neck, what do You knowledgeable people think? Could this be the start or maybe a mild case of encephalitis? Any suggestions what else to try are more than welcome. TIA, Heidi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.15/550 - Release Date: 11/24/2006
CScolliodal silver
sometimes you can tell when the colliodal silver is working as , when your body starts to detoxify itself from the bad stuff the colliodal silver kills , you will feel a few minor things like sleepyness and slight head aches and maybe a sore wrist of other few side effects to that are short lived
Re: CScolliodal silver
I am so glad you posted this! I had wondered about that. My kitties, when I double dose them for an illness, seem to sleep all of the time. I have noticed when we take it, we feel sluggish too. So, that is a good thing? Katz steven s...@bigpond.com wrote: sometimes you can tell when the colliodal silver is working as , when your body starts to detoxify itself from the bad stuff the colliodal silver kills , you will feel a few minor things like sleepyness and slight head aches and maybe a sore wrist of other few side effects to that are short lived Worry doesn't help tomorrow's troubles, but it does ruin today's happiness. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
CSRe: FW: CSRe: FW: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re:
--- * From: * sol[SMTP:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] * Sent: * Friday, November 24, 2006 8:27:42 PM * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com * Subject: * Re: CSRe: FW: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: I'll give the tofu a miss, thanks. Don't mention it... Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.15/550 - Release Date: 11/24/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolliodal silver
Yeah I have had that too when you have too much of the bad stuff in your system and you take enough of the silver your body is kinda working overtime to get rid of all the toxins...you can get tired and sore.debbie Jeanie Norwood katz032...@yahoo.com wrote:I am so glad you posted this! I had wondered about that. My kitties, when I double dose them for an illness, seem to sleep all of the time. I have noticed when we take it, we feel sluggish too. So, that is a good thing? Katz steven s...@bigpond.com wrote: sometimes you can tell when the colliodal silver is working as , when your body starts to detoxify itself from the bad stuff the colliodal silver kills , you will feel a few minor things like sleepyness and slight head aches and maybe a sore wrist of other few side effects to that are short lived Worry doesn't help tomorrow's troubles, but it does ruin today's happiness. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
Boy is this interestingdebbie Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: The Body Electric by Robert Becker. Marshall Ronald ( Susan) wrote: I've never heard of CS causing a injured or misbehaving cell to revert back to a stem cell. Can you direct me to sites, articles, studies, etc. that support that? Ron Marshall Dudley wrote: marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types. This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like warts do). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
RE: CSRe: FW: SOBudwig protocol for cancer, Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re:
Sol, In answer to your question about a cottage cheese substitute let me offer my final comments on this topic. If additional information is needed, please contact me in private. stel...@foxinternet.com 1. You can use quark, which is sold in QFC stores in the Northwest, but I do not know where else. Additionally one can experiment with goat's milk, making quark out of goat-milk yogurt or out of kefir. There are recipes for making you own. 2. Those who are knowledgeable in the mentioned protocol say that when flax seed oil is properly mixed with sulfurated protein (cottage cheese or quark) even people who are lactose intolerant seem to do fine because it is a new compound that acts differently on the system. 3. The protocol is not just flaxseed oil and protein. It is a whole regimen of food intake and food avoidance that cannot be properly discussed here. One must read the books available. 4. Interested parties should contact www/health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/ and speak with the experts. Discussion on the CS forum is not producing information that will be useful to a patient in need. In fact, quite the contrary. The CS forum offers expertise in CS, and the one above offers expertise in the Budwig protocol. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScs generator questions
Kathryn, If I understand you correctly, a 90 ohm potentiometer hooked up in series would allow me to vary the resistance from 0 to 90 ohms. Is that correct? Or is that kiloOhms? Peter Dear Peter, It says 150 on it, but it is 2 x 75 ohm units on top of each other. When I check it with my multimeter, it says 90 ohms each, so it is actually 180 ohms, not 150. However, I buy my parts at a surplus store, so they might not be the top of the line. I have it hooked up to only one part, so it would be a 90 ohm potentiometer (variable resistor). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall, I agree with you wholeheartedly that chemotherapy is a killer of the immune system. However, some alternative protocols have been shown to be counter-active to each other, but I am not going to elaborate on this forum. The information presented here is extremely valuable and interesting in itself, so I want to learn as much about CS as I can. Those who are genuinely interested in different protocols will find them and study them on their own initiative, in fact, they cannot be stopped from doing so. From my own study of some of these topics I am left with the conviction that cleansing the system from years and years of junk eating, then replacing the junk with healthful foods that are devoid of chemicals, over-processing, genetic modification, hormones, and the like, eating in moderation and exercising will give a person the best chance of staying healthy. The use of CS certainly is a factor toward good health. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups
Your answer makes sense. It did not occur to me that the current was merely to cause CS to be formed at the site. I thought that it served in the absorption and allocation of the CS, once it was formed. Thanks for the clarification. I need to read the body electric to get an in-depth understanding. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
