Re: CSMagnesium

2007-09-28 Thread Catherine Creel
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 Gayle, I wasnt able to acess that site. Maybe it is down today. Wayne, you
 didnt mention the glycinate form of magnesium.  do you know anything about
 that?I think the sulfate form is what is in Epsom salts.



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Re: CSto Gayle and Wayne-magnesium

2007-09-28 Thread CWFugitt


Wayne, you didnt mention the glycinate form of magnesium.  do you know 
anything about that?


   No, I do not.  Maybe you or someone can tell us about it.

   Wayne





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CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy

2007-09-28 Thread Shiona Phillips
Over on the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aboutclay/  list there has 
been a discussion over the last few days on the subject of transdermal 
magnesium chloride which involves applying magnesium chloride oil to the 
skin, which is apparently a very effective way of getting it into the 
body, using oil derived from brine solutions from seawater. I haven't 
tried it myself but it looks interesting ...


This is the home page of Dr. Mark Sircus, the author of a recommended 
book Transdermal Magnesium Therapy http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/


 There are over 200 published clinical studies[iii] documenting the 
need for magnesium and many examples of miraculous “cures” from the use 
of this common mineral. Even DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctors 
underestimate autistic children’s needs recommending only 50 milligrams 
twice a day in oral form. Not much of that is going to get into the 
children’s blood and cells because oral administration of magnesium is 
not absorbed readily and is made less available because of all the 
problems in these kids’ GI systems. Professor Gilbert LeLord of France 
published six studies evaluating the use of vitamin B6 with magnesium, 
on autistic children and adults. Their studies typically used as much as 
500 milligrams of magnesium with more than satisfactory results.


According to Dr. Norman Shealy oral magnesium supplementation takes 
between 6 to 12 months to restore intracellular levels whereas a 
transdermally applied magnesium lotion with 25% magnesium chloride 
restores intracellular levels within 4 to 6 weeks. Some nutritional 
experts now believe that 750 milligrams of magnesium supplement per day 
is a more physiologic[iv] recommendation but to take that much orally 
might upset the digestive system, cause diarrhea, and end up not being 
properly absorbed.


Good sources of magnesium include whole grains, nuts, peanut butter, 
cottonseed, peanut and soybean flours, green leafy vegetables and 
spices. It's better to get magnesium from foods rather than supplements 
because high doses have a laxative effect--the body's way of preventing 
toxic levels. But unfortunately we have to come to terms with the fact 
that the food values of magnesium have been dropping over the last fifty 
years making it extremely difficult to receive all we need from foods. 
The International Medical Veritas Association recommends a system of 
transdermal magnesium therapy that bypasses the problems evident with 
oral magnesium supplementation. (See treatment recommendations) 



Shiona


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CSRe: Hydroponics and CS

2007-09-28 Thread Simon Jester
I was reading somewhere that too much silver in public waters might 
be a concern if they kill off the beneficial bacteria that roots need 
for getting food.  OTOH, I also read that someone was putting it on 
their plants? maybe- more info needed 


As far as I know, CS is *very* good for plants. Adding CS water to 
wilting cut flowers will revive them, sometimes dramatically (try it 
sometime)...


Maybe too much would be bad, can't help you there.


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Re: CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy

2007-09-28 Thread mborgert
Shiona,

I take mag oil every day, it does increase energy, makes teeth stronger and 
just about everything else.
Brooks had an excellent article on mag.
More info is on mgwater.com.
I do have the Doctors book on transdermal Mag Therapy, great reading.
Mary

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From: Shiona Phillips hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk

 Over on the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aboutclay/  list there has 
 been a discussion over the last few days on the subject of transdermal 
 magnesium chloride which involves applying magnesium chloride oil to the 
 skin, which is apparently a very effective way of getting it into the 
 body, using oil derived from brine solutions from seawater. I haven't 
 tried it myself but it looks interesting ...
 
 This is the home page of Dr. Mark Sircus, the author of a recommended 
 book Transdermal Magnesium Therapy http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/
 
  There are over 200 published clinical studies[iii] documenting the 
 need for magnesium and many examples of miraculous “cures” from the use 
 of this common mineral. Even DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctors 
 underestimate autistic children’s needs recommending only 50 milligrams 
 twice a day in oral form. Not much of that is going to get into the 
 children’s blood and cells because oral administration of magnesium is 
 not absorbed readily and is made less available because of all the 
 problems in these kids’ GI systems. Professor Gilbert LeLord of France 
 published six studies evaluating the use of vitamin B6 with magnesium, 
 on autistic children and adults. Their studies typically used as much as 
 500 milligrams of magnesium with more than satisfactory results.
 
 According to Dr. Norman Shealy oral magnesium supplementation takes 
 between 6 to 12 months to restore intracellular levels whereas a 
 transdermally applied magnesium lotion with 25% magnesium chloride 
 restores intracellular levels within 4 to 6 weeks. Some nutritional 
 experts now believe that 750 milligrams of magnesium supplement per day 
 is a more physiologic[iv] recommendation but to take that much orally 
 might upset the digestive system, cause diarrhea, and end up not being 
 properly absorbed.
 
 Good sources of magnesium include whole grains, nuts, peanut butter, 
 cottonseed, peanut and soybean flours, green leafy vegetables and 
 spices. It's better to get magnesium from foods rather than supplements 
 because high doses have a laxative effect--the body's way of preventing 
 toxic levels. But unfortunately we have to come to terms with the fact 
 that the food values of magnesium have been dropping over the last fifty 
 years making it extremely difficult to receive all we need from foods. 
 The International Medical Veritas Association recommends a system of 
 transdermal magnesium therapy that bypasses the problems evident with 
 oral magnesium supplementation. (See treatment recommendations) 
 
 
 Shiona
 
 
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Re: CSHydroponics and CS, Growing Methods

2007-09-28 Thread Cinder Ella
Yes, I am actually growing true hydroponics.  Just water and mineral tablets 
(or whatever those pills are).  So far they are all sprouting and doing well 
but I'm going to experiment with my bean sprouts and mung beans because you 
have to rinse them every day.  Will see what happens there.  I already put an 
ounce of CS in the water and guess i won't add any more.  Just spring water.  
I'll take your advice and only experiment with my sprouts.  Thanks for the info 
all and esp. Wayne.
D
PS:  I wonder what would happen if I just added Concentrace to the water?  
Hmmm?

From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net

Evening Cinder Ella,

 At 05:13 PM 9/27/2007, you wrote:
   You may get a number of answers.  My reply is mostly warnings and cautions.

Has anyone had experience with hydroponics and CS?

   No, not really.  My growing is not true Hydroponics.
True Hydroponics means the roots reside in liquid, no other media.
Likely you knew that.

  I am growing an herb garden with the AeroGarden and they have all kinds 
 of safeguards so the water doesn't grow algae.

If you are using approved methods, you best continue to do that.

  I called them up and asked them why I have to keep the paper over the 
 plants base and they said if the water gets too much light it grows algae.

Yes, it will, even inside a plastic barrel.  And it gets out of control 
fast, and will clog up pumps, smaller passage ways, and be a disaster.

kind of effect that would have on the plants.
She was concerned about the wrong thing.  The problem is with the 
water, not the plants.  Plants are very intelligent in their feeding.
Often I think more so than humans.

I can pass nutrients over the roots all day, and they take what they need 
and let the rest go by.  Often taking up zero nutrients, and using only 
water.  That is amazing.  That has been proven, not guess work.

One of my friends has been head of a research center, head of Horticulture 
at a college, traveled the world teaching people to grow, and here is what 
he calls TRUE Hydroponics.

   The Sudden Death Method.

Guess what ?  If one plant becomes diseased, they all become 
diseased.  This year, in the soil, I had one tomato plant show sighs of 
disease.  I immediately removed it.  No more became diseased.

There is little forgiveness in Hydroponics.

Yes, there are good bacteria in water.  Some think the good control the 
bad, much like in the human body,

There may be others but this is three,
  bacillus, mycorrhizae and trichoderma.   These are good ones and used to 
control fungi, and other diseases.  Kill them with CS or anything else, and 
you are in  a world of trouble,
You may in fact need to add them.  Since many growers do that, you must be 
able to buy them someplace.

If you want to experiment, use one plant in a container, one with distilled 
water, one with healthy water, and one with CS water.
But.. do not experiment with your total plot.

If you can use CS, how much is ok? before it messes with the minerals in 
the water and isn't good for the plants anymore?

 Not exactly a valid question... use ZERO.
Likely you could use a small amount, but if you kill the good stuff, the 
bad may take over.

I think that if it was going to mess with the minerals, it would be in a 
very short time.

You could remove a small amount of your water to a container and add some 
CS to observe the effect on the algae.

Do not shortcut any proven methods to reduce algae.

Actually, if you are not an experience grower, I think hydro is a bad way 
to start, unless you want a challenge instead of food to eat.

My method is simpler, but complex enough, and proven by thousands of 
commercial growers and colleges.

How do you think I learned how to do it ?  grin

Wayne




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Re: CSHydroponics and CS, Growing Methods

2007-09-28 Thread CWFugitt

Evening Cinder Ella,

 At 11:29 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote:
Yes, I am actually growing true hydroponics.  Just water and mineral 
tablets (or whatever those pills are).


  Can you post the name and maybe a link to those magic pills.
I would like to study them a bit.

Wayne

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RE: CSRe: Heart palpitations

2007-09-28 Thread ccdirectt
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RE: CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy

2007-09-28 Thread ruth strackbein

htmldivFrom Ruth Strackbein/div/htmlHi, I am very interested in the 
Magnesium Chloride Oil, but on skimming through your post and the information 
from the address you gave, I see nothing that tells me where to buy Magnesium 
Chloride Oil or how much it costs.  Ruth From: mborg...@att.net To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal 
Therapy Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:47:22 +  Shiona,  I take mag oil 
every day, it does increase energy, makes teeth stronger and just about 
everything else. Brooks had an excellent article on mag. More info is on 
mgwater.com. I do have the Doctors book on transdermal Mag Therapy, great 
reading. Mary  -- Original message -- From: 
Shiona Phillips hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk   Over on the 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aboutclay/ list there has   been a discussion 
over the last few days on the subject of transdermal   magnesium chloride 
which involves applying magnesium chloride oil to the   skin, which is 
apparently a very effective way of getting it into the   body, using oil 
derived from brine solutions from seawater. I haven't   tried it myself but 
it looks interesting ...This is the home page of Dr. Mark Sircus, the 
author of a recommended   book Transdermal Magnesium Therapy 
http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/ There are over 200 published clinical 
studies[iii] documenting the   need for magnesium and many examples of 
miraculous “cures” from the use   of this common mineral. Even DAN (Defeat 
Autism Now) doctors   underestimate autistic children’s needs recommending 
only 50 milligrams   twice a day in oral form. Not much of that is going to 
get into the   children’s blood and cells because oral administration of 
magnesium is   not absorbed readily and is made less available because of all 
the   problems in these kids’ GI systems. Professor Gilbert LeLord of France 
  published six studies evaluating the use of vitamin B6 with magnesium,   
on autistic children and adults. Their studies typically used as much as   
500 milligrams of magnesium with more than satisfactory results.
According to Dr. Norman Shealy oral magnesium supplementation takes   between 
6 to 12 months to restore intracellular levels whereas a   transdermally 
applied magnesium lotion with 25% magnesium chloride   restores intracellular 
levels within 4 to 6 weeks. Some nutritional   experts now believe that 750 
milligrams of magnesium supplement per day   is a more physiologic[iv] 
recommendation but to take that much orally   might upset the digestive 
system, cause diarrhea, and end up not being   properly absorbed.Good 
sources of magnesium include whole grains, nuts, peanut butter,   cottonseed, 
peanut and soybean flours, green leafy vegetables and   spices. It's better 
to get magnesium from foods rather than supplements   because high doses have 
a laxative effect--the body's way of preventing   toxic levels. But 
unfortunately we have to come to terms with the fact   that the food values 
of magnesium have been dropping over the last fifty   years making it 
extremely difficult to receive all we need from foods.   The International 
Medical Veritas Association recommends a system of   transdermal magnesium 
therapy that bypasses the problems evident with   oral magnesium 
supplementation. (See treatment recommendations)   Shiona  
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