Re: CSRe: Plastic or Glass bottles

[M. G. Devour]

Dear David,

Welcome to the group!

You asked:
 I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my
 CS. 

PET bottles were the favorite of Ol' Bob, one of our more beloved 
members and experts who passed on a couple of years ago. As I recall, 
his testing showed no detectable degredation or contamination of the CS 
after extended periods.

Several years back I bought a six-pack of 20 ounce bottles of Purified 
Drinking Water from a local Wal-Mart, drank or dumped the contents, 
and put them to use for storing CS. They're just fine, and I never 
needed to do anything but rinse them out, initially. There was no 
problem with taste or smell as you might have with a  bottle that was 
used for soda pop or other strongly flavored and sweetened beverages.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSRe: Scabies

[Tony Moody]

Hi Nancy,

Mothball smell.
Leaving a bucket of straw in water will absorb most smells.  I have used the 
method of boiling 
pineapple peels in a room whichn had had kittens in it and that worked quickly. 

hth,
Tony

On 8 Nov 2007 at 20:50, Tad Winiecki wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSRe: Scabies

 Scott- They were using DE, and moth balls.  It turns out they had sent
 a couple of samples to my doctor sister and she admitted when leaving
 that one sample had springtails.  She seemed to think this was
 inconsequential.  I had seen springtail also known as Collembola
 information through google, some people have claimed to have a problem
 being bitten by them.  My brother seems convinced this is the source
 of their problem and is trying different things on them.  I'll report
 if he feels something succeeds.  Anyone heard of this?
 
 I don't think he left any critters here but I can't get the moth ball
 smell out of my guest bedroom.  We even ran the ozone generator in
 there a couple of times.
 
 Nancy
 
 On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Scott wrote:
  So, when I dust my house, I do it everywhere using a talcum powder
  bottle or something that has small holes that will disperse the DE
  fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper ones will
  work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put
  outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour
  after dusting.
 
  Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote:
  couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up
  near Waco. 
 
 
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CSRe: Plastic or Glass bottles

[David Angland]

Thanks Kathryn.

I live in New Zealand. That's why I mentioned the lack of Selenium in
our diets. 
It's not a concern for me, because I get plenty from my supplements.
On the other hand, my daughter is still too young to be taking
supplements.

David


  

  

Subject:

Re: CSPlastic or Glass bottles
  
  

From: 
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
  
  

Date: 
Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:51:32 -0600
  
  

To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com
  

  
  

  

To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com
  

  
  
Why do you think their diet is deficient in selenium? Any newborn is
probably best off with her mother's milk, in any case ( just my
opinion, unless there is some infection that needs treating). Others
have said they use it to treat children.
  
  
The storage jars seem to be a matter of personal preference. I use
both. I also keep EIS in a nasal spray bottle in my purse at all times,
my son has taken to keeping a plastic spray bottle of it in his car.
  
  
Kathryn
  
  
On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:51 PM, David Angland wrote:
  
  
  Hi there,


I hope that I'm not repeating a question that has already been asked
recently.


I have a SilverPuppy generator, and I'm wondering whether PET plastic
bottles are OK or not to store my CS.

According to the instructions that came with it, it says PET plastic
bottles are OK.

Then I came across this web site
(http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html#glass-bottles)

which says that home-made silver always consists mostly of ionic
silver, and therefore should be stored in glass bottles.

Now I'm wondering if storing my EIS in plastic bottles has been a waste
of time.


Also, if plastic is bad, does that mean putting EIS into a glass spray
bottle (which has a plastic inner straw) is not recommended?


Another question ...

I have two children (a 2 year old  a new-born). When is it safe
to start giving them EIS to ward off colds? I'm concerned that with
lack of selenium in their diets, they wont be able to eliminate the
silver from their bodies.


Thanks in advance!

David

  
  

  


  
  


  

  
  
  
  

  


  

  





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Re: CSPrill water and CS

[ccdirectt]

Is the Prill water doing some of the stuff that
claims?
 


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Re: CSPrill water and CS

[William Missett]

I don't ingest enough on a regular basis to cause any effects that I can 
determine.



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Is the Prill water doing some of the stuff that
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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[faith gagne]

Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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CSAnode Silver - cathode what?

[Faith Saint Francis]

Greetings Silver List!
 
I have a small 'beginners' question here:
 
There was once a thread about two / or one silver rod in the water.
 
The Anode should be real (99,9) % silver, right?
 
How long should this rod be, if it is 2 millimeter in diameter?
 
And what metal should the cathode then be?
 
And please freshen us up about the time for the best home-made silver (with 30 
volts)?
 
Thank you all,
 
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Re: CSBlack gunk on silver probes

[Ode Coyote]

 It'll work and it won't kill ya.
Short rule:
 If it looks like something you'd use...use it.
If it looks like crap, it is.

ode


At 02:14 PM 11/9/2007 -0500, you wrote:
Our grown son decided he wanted to try and make his own cs generator.  His 
first batch made in less time than our silverpuppy and was much stronger 
but also had what looked like black fungus attached to the probes.  It 
didn't come off in the cs when he removed them.  Would his cs be 
safe?  Was this just too much energy to quickly and depleting the silver?


Dianne


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Re: CSMeasuring concentrations

[Ode Coyote]

  uS is units of conductivity in Microsiemens per cubic centimeter as 
read by an EC meter [electrical conductivity ]
That number just so happens to correspond very close to PPM up to around 30 
uS...after..it has stopped dropping over time.

 Silver water loses some conductivity as it stabilizes.
It's not actually  measuring PPM  silver, but hands you a useful number.

 A PPM/TDS meter works the same way, but fudges the conductivity number to 
correspond to PPM of Sodium Chloride salt in salt water*about*  1/2 the 
conductivity number...so, when using a PPM meter, double the reading.


Ode

At 03:46 PM 11/9/2007 -0600, you wrote:

How do you measure concentrations of silver and what is uS (units Silver?)
Linda
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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Dianne France]

Faith

We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe arthritis 
and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected areas.  Am 
using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped with pain 
and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.

  Faith G


- Original Message - 
From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: cking...@nycap.rr.commailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies 
(blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Would
  DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
  would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
  received as would any other suggestions.
  
  Ian in Spain

  DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
  It gets the CS into difficult area.

  Chuck

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  by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[faith gagne]

Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?  Are 
there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you just rub it on 
or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?

Thanks very much Dianne.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith

  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using 
it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 
24/7.  I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a 
horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at 
horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We 
use the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy 
from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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by cats.


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Re: CSRe: Plastic or Glass bottles

[Clayton Family]

Hi David,

I assume you are saying that soil in NZ is deficient in selenium.  For 
babies still drinking from Mom's dairy, of course, then I am sure she 
is careful to eat a good diet.  Brazil nuts are said to have lots of 
selenium- people here have said 2 a day if you take lots of cs.  I am 
sure there are other food sources, you could look it up. Maybe nuts are 
imported, so those might work. They can be ground in a small mill or 
maybe even a baby food grinder for the 2 year old, and mixed into other 
things, like muffins, or even applesauce.


According to what I have read, small amounts of silver are easily 
processed by the body's normal mechanisms. I am not sure what this 
means for babies. But if they can process more toxic antibiotics ( some 
are more so than others) when necessary, I might prefer the cs to 
those.  Hopefully your baby will stay well, and need nothing more than 
good milk.


Kathryn


On Nov 10, 2007, at 1:50 AM, David Angland wrote:


 Thanks Kathryn.

 I live in New Zealand.  That's why I mentioned the lack of Selenium 
in our diets. 

 It's not a concern for me, because I get plenty from my supplements.
 On the other hand, my daughter is still too young to be taking 
supplements.


 David



Subject:
 Re: CSPlastic or Glass bottles
From:
  Why do you think their diet is deficient in selenium?  Any newborn 
is probably best off with her mother's milk, in any case ( just my 
opinion, unless there is some infection that needs treating). Others 
have said they use it to treat children.



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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[M. G. Devour]

 Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? 
 Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
 just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?

And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local 
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles 
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very 
approximately, as I'm going from memory. 

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related 
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are 
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can 
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin 
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a 
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million 
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the 
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Ted Mozell]

Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type of 
arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:Faith
   
  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.
   
  Faith G
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Ted Mozell]

Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type of 
arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:Faith
   
  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.
   
  Faith G
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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CSSimon

[Gail Naranjo]

--- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
  Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:09:30 -0500
 From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
 It
 didn't make me happy that Simon was expelled from
 the list because he does have knowledge to share 

Somehow me thinks he's still around.  Probably resubed
under an alias and is listening to us all.  Might even
decide to post once in awhile but in a toned down way.

That's my thinking of the subject anyway.

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Re: CSMeasuring concentrations

[Dan Nave]

Siemens in the unit used to designate Electrical 
Conductance.


This is the reciprocal (1/unit) of  the Ohms unit which 
indicates Electrical Resistance.


So:  siemens = 1 / ohms

micro siemens = siemens / 1,000,000

also

micro siemens = 1,000,000 / resistance

micro siemens may be written uS

Dan


Clayton Family wrote:
I bought a COM 100 meter from silverpuppy.com. It measures the 
electrical conductivity of the water, in micro Seimans. The u is a 
symbol for micro, I guess it is the closest a keyboard can come to the 
tiny little itty bitty m.  The com 100 will tell what the conductivity 
is, which is pretty close to the ppm (parts per million).


On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Linda wrote:

How do you measure concentrations of silver and what is uS (units 
Silver?)

Linda



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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Dan Nave]

The FDA has OK'ed DMSO for some uses in humans.  It just is 
more easy to get and cheaper from the feed store or on-line. 
 Just like colloidal silver, the label has disclaimers on 
it for the benefit of the FDA.


As for using a horse medicine; many horses are worth more 
than many human beings...


Sounds like he would rather buy the expensive stuff from the 
pharmacy, or continue with his athlete's foot fungus.


Dan


faith gagne wrote:
Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it for arthritis pain.  


I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  I 
was going to suggest it to him but I don't


know if he would buy a horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.



Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM

  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM

Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Leslie]

I bought mine at Ace Hardware. They have a feed store where I went first and 
then had to go next door to the regular store where they had it. Was less 
than $7.00 which beats paying high postage.


Leslie
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From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?
Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?


And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very
approximately, as I'm going from memory.

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Dianne France]

Ted

Both my husband and I have osteo arthritis.  I have it pretty bad in both hands 
and knees.  With painting the effected areas I have gotten some relief and can 
walk better.  A couple of my fingers I couldn't bend now have some bend to them 
and the swelling is down.  I believe you are right about the cs and dmso.  DMSO 
helps the body to re-absorb inflammation and carry it away.  

I wrote another post I didn't see show up so I forwarded it back to the group.  
It has a web site where people are much more knowledgeable about it's uses.  We 
ordered a book I posted also and are in the process of reading it.  They have 
been able to cure cataracts with the use of DMSO and that is one of the reasons 
we are using it in our eyes with the cs.  

Dianne 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ted Mozellmailto:tedmoz...@sbcglobal.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type 
of arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

  Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.commailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
wrote: 
Faith

We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using 
it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 
24/7.  I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a 
horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.

  Faith G


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From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at 
horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We 
use the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy 
from.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

  Faith G.


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  From: cking...@nycap.rr.commailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies 
(blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Would
  DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If 
so,
  would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
  received as would any other suggestions.
  
  Ian in Spain

  DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
  It gets the CS into difficult area.

  Chuck

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  by cats.


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CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[Dianne France]

Faith

DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) can be bought in gel or liquid.  The liquid is better 
for mixing with cs.  DMSO is a penetrate so the skin needs to be clean or it 
will carry whatever is there internal.  Full strength can cause skin irritation 
and some people are more sensitive even when you dilute with cs.  We use 50/50 
okay without side effects.  The face area is much more sensitive and about a 5% 
or 10% solution is all you would want to use there without irritation.  There 
is a great group site on yahoo for DMSO ( 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSOhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO
 ).  There are a lot of archives there with lots of information.  We also use 
it mixed with cs in our eyes.  The DMSO we order thru our veterinarian can be 
used IV in horses and I feel safer using that mix with cs for our eyes.  

There is a good book out DMSO Nature's Healer, by Dr. Morton Walker.  It 
explains how to use DMSO to relieve pain, increase circulation, repair tissue 
damage, and fight degenerative diseases.  

I hope this helps in some way.  
Dianne

Re: CSMeasuring concentrations

[Arnold Beland]

The original term was the Mho. Yes, Ohm spelled backwards. In nineteen 
seventy one the unit was redesignated the Siemen in recognition of the work 
of Ernst Werner von Siemens. I always thought spelling Ohm backwards to 
indicate the reciprocal of the unit was a neat thing. No disrespect for 
Ernst intended.


- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring concentrations



Siemens in the unit used to designate Electrical Conductance.

This is the reciprocal (1/unit) of  the Ohms unit which indicates 
Electrical Resistance.


So:  siemens = 1 / ohms

micro siemens = siemens / 1,000,000

also

micro siemens = 1,000,000 / resistance

micro siemens may be written uS

Dan


Clayton Family wrote:
I bought a COM 100 meter from silverpuppy.com. It measures the electrical 
conductivity of the water, in micro Seimans. The u is a symbol for micro, 
I guess it is the closest a keyboard can come to the tiny little itty 
bitty m.  The com 100 will tell what the conductivity is, which is pretty 
close to the ppm (parts per million).


On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Linda wrote:

How do you measure concentrations of silver and what is uS (units 
Silver?)

Linda



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Re: CSRe: Plastic or Glass bottles

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Mike...how long did you store yours...thanks deb

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Dear David,

Welcome to the group!

You asked:
 I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my
 CS. 

PET bottles were the favorite of Ol' Bob, one of our more beloved 
members and experts who passed on a couple of years ago. As I recall, 
his testing showed no detectable degredation or contamination of the CS 
after extended periods.

Several years back I bought a six-pack of 20 ounce bottles of Purified 
Drinking Water from a local Wal-Mart, drank or dumped the contents, 
and put them to use for storing CS. They're just fine, and I never 
needed to do anything but rinse them out, initially. There was no 
problem with taste or smell as you might have with a bottle that was 
used for soda pop or other strongly flavored and sweetened beverages.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[faith gagne]

Thanks very much Mike.  I will relate this information to him.  But his 
problem really is not athletes foot, it is osteo-arthritis.


Faith G.



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?
Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?


And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very
approximately, as I'm going from memory.

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[faith gagne]

Dianne:  Thank you very much for all the good information.  I will forward it 
to my friends who live several states away from me.  the help will be much 
appreciated.

Faith G.
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  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:55 PM
  Subject: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver






  Faith

  DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) can be bought in gel or liquid.  The liquid is 
better for mixing with cs.  DMSO is a penetrate so the skin needs to be clean 
or it will carry whatever is there internal.  Full strength can cause skin 
irritation and some people are more sensitive even when you dilute with cs.  We 
use 50/50 okay without side effects.  The face area is much more sensitive and 
about a 5% or 10% solution is all you would want to use there without 
irritation.  There is a great group site on yahoo for DMSO ( 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ).  There are a lot of 
archives there with lots of information.  We also use it mixed with cs in our 
eyes.  The DMSO we order thru our veterinarian can be used IV in horses and I 
feel safer using that mix with cs for our eyes.  

  There is a good book out DMSO Nature's Healer, by Dr. Morton Walker.  It 
explains how to use DMSO to relieve pain, increase circulation, repair tissue 
damage, and fight degenerative diseases.  

  I hope this helps in some way.  
  Dianne

Re: CSRe: Plastic or Glass bottles

[M. G. Devour]

 Hi Mike...how long did you store yours...thanks deb

I make and use CS on a pretty irregular basis. When we're treating 
anything active we'll go through our stock in a few days, making new to 
replace it as we go. If everybody's healthy it may sit for several 
months at a time. Judging by the taste and its effectiveness, it's 
still CS when we uncap the bottles.

Be well,

Mike D.

 M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Dear David,
 Several years back I bought a six-pack of 20 ounce bottles of Purified
 Drinking Water from a local Wal-Mart, drank or dumped the contents, and
 put them to use for storing CS. 

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

[M. G. Devour]

 Thanks very much Mike.  I will relate this information to him.  But his
 problem really is not athletes foot, it is osteo-arthritis.

Arthritis is what I thought we were talking about. Just rub it on where 
it hurts, maybe a couple or three times per day? It goes after 
inflamation, improves circulation, and is analgesic in itself.

Just make sure there's nothing on your skin or hands that you wouldn't 
want carried into every cell of your body -- don't put it on right 
after applying bug spray in the garden, for instance!!

Other people's suggestions for things to soothe the skin between 
applications may help, too.

Be well,

Mike D.

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CSPlastic or Glass bottles

[alchemysa]

I've used plastic bottles for 5 years for CS thats stored for up to a 
couple of months.  It doesn't causes any deterioration that I can detect 
by measurements or actual use.  I use HDPE bottles. Thats the waxy type 
of plastic my demineralised water comes in. Theres some suggestion that 
PET plastic (Coke bottles etc)  may be better but its not conclusive. 
The good thing about plasic bottles that have contained demineralised or 
drinking water is that they don't have to be washed out. Just empty 
them. You'll never get them any cleaner.
Of course we keep these larger containers of CS in a cupboard. We keep a 
brown glass pint bottle on the sink for daily use.


David



You asked:
   


I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my
CS. 
 



PET bottles were the favorite of Ol' Bob, one of our more beloved 
members and experts who passed on a couple of years ago. As I recall, 
his testing showed no detectable degredation or contamination of the CS 
after extended periods.


Several years back I bought a six-pack of 20 ounce bottles of Purified 
Drinking Water from a local Wal-Mart, drank or dumped the contents, 
and put them to use for storing CS. They're just fine, and I never 
needed to do anything but rinse them out, initially. There was no 
problem with taste or smell as you might have with a  bottle that was 
used for soda pop or other strongly flavored and sweetened beverages.


Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]

   

Re: CSPlastic or Glass bottles

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi David,
  How do you tell when you have stored it too long?...thanks much debbie

alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  I've used plastic bottles for 5 years for CS thats stored for up to a couple 
of months.  It doesn't causes any deterioration that I can detect by 
measurements or actual use.  I use HDPE bottles. Thats the waxy type of plastic 
my demineralised water comes in. Theres some suggestion that PET plastic (Coke 
bottles etc)  may be better but its not conclusive. The good thing about plasic 
bottles that have contained demineralised or drinking water is that they don't 
have to be washed out. Just empty them. You'll never get them any cleaner. 
Of course we keep these larger containers of CS in a cupboard. We keep a brown 
glass pint bottle on the sink for daily use. 

David


You asked:  
  
I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my  CS.
 

  PET bottles were the favorite of Ol' Bob, one of our more beloved   members 
and experts who passed on a couple of years ago. As I recall,   his testing 
showed no detectable degredation or contamination of the CS   after extended 
periods.Several years back I bought a six-pack of 20 ounce bottles of 
Purified   Drinking Water from a local Wal-Mart, drank or dumped the 
contents,   and put them to use for storing CS. They're just fine, and I never  
 needed to do anything but rinse them out, initially. There was no   problem 
with taste or smell as you might have with a  bottle that was   used for soda 
pop or other strongly flavored and sweetened beverages.Be well,Mike D.  
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]  [mdev...@eskimo.com   
 ]  [Speaking only for myself...   ]



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CSBlack gunk on silver probes

[alchemysa]

The colour of the electrode indicates a few things but  isnt  all that 
important. Its the color of the water that counts. When the batch is 
finished it should still be almost perfectly colorless. Then put it on 
the window ledge for a while. If it goes grey don't drink it. If it 
stays pretty clear its OK.


Your silverpuppy  with stirring, auto-shutoff, and current control will 
make safe clear CS even with pretty ordinary water because it cant put 
too much silver into the brew. But a home made generator with no current 
control will soon bring out the worst in bad water. It can quickly 
dissolve far more silver into the batch than may be good for you in the 
long run.


A home made gen with no current control and dodgy water is probably fine 
for making bulk CS for animals, but for human consumption you need to be 
a little careful.


David





Subject:
CSBlack gunk on silver probes
From:
Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
Date:
Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:14:30 -0500
To:
silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com


Our grown son decided he wanted to try and make his own cs generator.  
His first batch made in less time than our silverpuppy and was much 
stronger but also had what looked like black fungus attached to the 
probes.  It didn't come off in the cs when he removed them.  Would his 
cs be safe?  Was this just too much energy to quickly and depleting 
the silver?
 
Dianne
 
 

CSLED therapy

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Some members are interested in FIR photo-therapy, and one member sells 
devices on e-Bay.   I stumbled on a site that seems to offer some 
useful information about this kind of photo-therapy.   I don't have 
time to study it just now, but here it is:


http://www.anodynetherapy.com/



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Re: CSLED therapy

[Dianne France]

Jonathan
We have been using infra red therapy for many years on our horses (I almost 
feel I need to apologize relating to horses) and it is tremendously helpful.  
Our machine is a Biopack with two orbs and we can set the different strengths 
depending on what injury/problem we are treating.  Many of the top trainers 
that have won the Kentucky Derby also use this same devise.  We use it on 
ourselves also.  It is extremely effective on soft tissue but also will 
stimulate bone on the right settings.  A lot of therapies are used on animals 
first.

Many of the more holistic medicines/supplements/devises work for humans and 
animals.  When a friend of ours contracted whooping cough she borrowed one of 
our pads that work off batteries and treated her ribs which were effected from 
her coughing.  It helped her a bunch.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Brittenmailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:15 PM
  Subject: CSLED therapy


  Some members are interested in FIR photo-therapy

Re: CSLED therapy

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

V is another excellent source who has never failed me. I am not sure which
is the best address below:

V
E-mail Address(es):
  vzo...@yahoo.com

V
E-mail Address(es):
  zon...@expo-net.org

V
E-mail Address(es):
  lig...@theledman.net

V
E-mail Address(es):
  v...@expo-net.org

V
E-mail Address(es):
  web...@powerwebs.com


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: CSLED therapy


 Some members are interested in FIR photo-therapy, and one member sells
 devices on e-Bay.   I stumbled on a site that seems to offer some
 useful information about this kind of photo-therapy.   I don't have
 time to study it just now, but here it is:

 http://www.anodynetherapy.com/



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