Re: CSHome made generator
I have a few 1 teflon stir bars $7 each, free shipping. [That's my cost ] I stopped selling them because they ARE too expensive and don't work as well as the ones I make using much stronger magnets. Those..a set of 2 for $3..free shipping. Cheezy and primitive looking magnets in a plastic tube, but they hook up like nobodies bidness. PS I also have a number of the older circuit boards that were made for the wrong power input plug. $5...you populate it with common parts from the shack It'll save several hours of running wires on a breadboard. Add $5 for a little black box to house it in. [the shack doesn't have those ] Current control, adjustable or set from microamps to around 6 milliamps. Automatic water monitoring off function...adjustable or set AC or DC input up to 36 volts...DC only output. Ode At 08:52 AM 11/11/2007 -0600, you wrote: Thanks for the information on the measurements for silver. I would like to have a generator that makes the cs by itself but I can't afford one. I have a great brother who knows how to do all that stuff though so he is going to build the generating part for me. I know how to make a magnetic stirrer but I need a teflon coated stir bar. These things were all over the place when I was working as a laboratory tech; nobody ever gave them a thought, but since I retired I found out just how expensive they are. Anyone know where I can get one at a reasonable price? $90 for 12 is too much since I only need one. Didn't find any on Ebay. Or maybe there is something else I can use for the stir bar..? Linda No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHome made generator-stirrer
You can also paint one side of the jar black and run it in the sun. A desk lamp nearby works well. ode At 12:31 PM 11/11/2007 -0600, you wrote: I use a light bulb- it works thermally, causing convection currents to move the water. It might not be as slick as the mag stir, but it works for me. I use a small clear xmas tree light in a nite lite plug I got at the grocery store. Ode says it works best for shorter jars, like an old pickle jar, you can bend the silver wire. I just use a tall quart jar anyway, and it seems to do a good job. You can put in in a pineaplle can and set the jar on top. Or you could get a 40 w bulb and set it next to the jar. Kathryn On Nov 11, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Linda wrote: Thanks for the information on the measurements for silver. I would like to have a generator that makes the cs by itself but I can't afford one. I have a great brother who knows how to do all that stuff though so he is going to build the generating part for me. I know how to make a magnetic stirrer but I need a teflon coated stir bar. These things were all over the place when I was working as a laboratory tech; nobody ever gave them a thought, but since I retired I found out just how expensive they are. Anyone know where I can get one at a reasonable price? $90 for 12 is too much since I only need one. Didn't find any on Ebay. Or maybe there is something else I can use for the stir bar..? Linda -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM
Re: CSNew member.
Voltage determines ion velocity. Current controls the rate of ion emission. Low voltage doesn't accelerate the ions far enough away from the electrode for it not to be sucked back on by the time the polarity changes. Somewhere between 5 to 20 thousand volts will do at 50 Hz. [Neon light transformer ? ] Danger danger. Reverse osmosis filters are better than nothing. Table top distillers. There are many ways produce and condense water vapor. De-ionized water from the 'chemist' is as good as distilled. Ode Is 50Hz too high a frequency for the preparation of colloidal/ionic silver? Any comments would be appreciated. I wish there was an easy way to get a genuine measurement of the amount of colloidal and ionic silver present in a solution. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM
Re: CSLED therapy
I was only kidding with Chuck. Sorry. Faith G - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: Re: CSLED therapy Seriously, Faith, the person maintains a very consistent online persona with the simple name V. I've seen him around for a long time and that's all I know him by. He's a good bloke from all I've seen and heard about him. Assuming he's a bloke. I think that's settled... grin Be well, Mike D. What are you smoking? - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: CSLED therapy On 11/11/2007 7:55:07 AM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: What does the V stand for? Faith G It's a mystery. Could be V for Vendettagreat movie. Wonder if V wears his Guy Fawks mask working in his infernal laboratory? Chuck _There is no TRUTH There is no REALITY There is no CONSISTENCY There are no ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS I'm very probably wrong -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSLED therapy
Thanks. Faith G - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: Re: CSLED therapy Here you go Faith just scroll down for his addy http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Doesn't he have a web address in addition to email? Faith G - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: CSLED therapy He is a good guy to deal with all the way around he goes out of his way to answer all questions tooIf you are not a close friend he prefers you to call him V...deb James McCourt, Ph.D. dr...@earthlink.net wrote: V is another excellent source who has never failed me. I am not sure which is the best address below: V E-mail Address(es): vzo...@yahoo.com V E-mail Address(es): zon...@expo-net.org V E-mail Address(es): lig...@theledman.net V E-mail Address(es): v...@expo-net.org V E-mail Address(es): web...@powerwebs.com - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: CSLED therapy Some members are interested in FIR photo-therapy, and one member sells devices on e-Bay. I stumbled on a site that seems to offer some useful information about this kind of photo-therapy. I don't have time to study it just now, but here it is: http://www.anodynetherapy.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSNew member.
At 08:24 PM 11/11/2007 +, you wrote: In message 473761a2.6080...@comcast.net, Dan Nave na...@comcast.net writes Can you reference your new AC technique? I was pointed to a site called:- http://www.silver-colloids.com/ Which has some of the most useful and bluntest raw technical data I've seen associated with colloidal silver. It indicated that most simple DC silver preparation tends to produce ionic silver as opposed to the proper useful silver suspension associated with a colloidal liquid. A quick skim over the 'net showed simple AC units using just a transformer connected to the electrodes with no current limiting, while other more sophisticated units described using AC but with fluid conduction monitoring to shut off the current when the desired conductivity was reached. I wonder if there is an optimum frequency for the fastest and most stable preparation of good colloidal silver with a high ratio of actual metal in suspension as opposed to the electron stripped ionic silver. Would perhaps 1Hz or even 0.01Hz be better? 50/60Hz would be ideal, since it comes that way out the box so to speak. ## More like 50 to 100 seconds per cycle using low voltages. When you see the mist forming a standing field between the electrodes, that's somewhere in the right range of balanced ion velocities. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM
Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
It is true many don't have supportive people. I have found that about the time you think some one is supportive they show another side. I have always fought having a thick skin so I guess I forgive them. M - Original Message - From: Lesliemailto:leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS AGREE! And want to say I appreciate all of you as it makes my world go round. I haven't had too many people help me, especially around here. Leslie - Original Message - From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS That Word was Christ and he was always kind to the sick and downtrodden. There are many on this site that are so knowledgeable and appreciated for their time they take to share that knowledge. There are also those of us that are climbing that ladder that are on much lower rungs and it is welcome to have a hand extended down to help you up rather than a foot on your head telling you that you aren't worthy. Dianne - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Brittenmailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS In the beginning there was the word . . . . Seven of the most profound words ever written. Food for thought for a lifetime. On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote: WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member.
If you use AC you must understand that there are two reactions that occur at the electrode. One is an oxidizing reaction and the other reducing. They alternate between them at the frequency. So anything that gets produced at the electrode is immediately neutralized the next half cycle. The result is that very little if any CS can be made by 24 volts at 50 or 60 hertz. What is required is for the products to leave the electrode sufficiently far, to not get sucked right back and neutralized the next half cycle. For around 20 to 30 volts, that is a 2 minute cycle (with stirring), and with 50 hertz it is about 9 KV, and at 60 hertz it is 10 KV. You can make very good CS using 50 or 60 hertz at these higher voltages, I did it for years myself. Marshall Clive Mitchell wrote: Hi. Just dropping a quick note to say hello and get off to a bad start by asking awkward questions I've been playing with simple colloidal silver makers based on .999 silver rods with a single PP3 9V cell and a resistor and high sensitivity LED in series. I've had to make do with tap water since getting distilled water is surprisingly difficult in Scotland where our tap water is one of the purest available, and thus bottled water has the same status as a bottle of cola. (Just a handy drink.) The results have been the fine mist of ionic silver and the inevitable darkening of the fluid over time as the ionic silver bonded with the tiny amount of chlorine and nitrates present in the water. Last night I stumbled across the technique of using AC to make a less ionic solution and promptly built a new version that is powered by a 24Vac wall wart connected to the electrodes via a 1k resistor and two LEDs in inverse parallel so they both light on the AC and don't rectify the supply. I left it on all day today and the water shows no sign of the usual misting from the electrodes and has remained absolutely clear. A test with the resistive style dissolved solids tester showed that water from the tap had 40ppm impurities while the treated water was identical. H. A test with a fairly high output green laser showed fresh water had little absorption, but the treated water had quite a strong line and sparkle to it suggesting that there is some form of silver going into the liquid. Is 50Hz too high a frequency for the preparation of colloidal/ionic silver? Any comments would be appreciated. I wish there was an easy way to get a genuine measurement of the amount of colloidal and ionic silver present in a solution. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member.
Clive Mitchell wrote: In message 473761a2.6080...@comcast.net, Dan Nave na...@comcast.net writes Can you reference your new AC technique? I was pointed to a site called:- http://www.silver-colloids.com/ Which has some of the most useful and bluntest raw technical data I've seen associated with colloidal silver. It indicated that most simple DC silver preparation tends to produce ionic silver as opposed to the proper useful silver suspension associated with a colloidal liquid. A quick skim over the 'net showed simple AC units using just a transformer connected to the electrodes with no current limiting, while other more sophisticated units described using AC but with fluid conduction monitoring to shut off the current when the desired conductivity was reached. I wonder if there is an optimum frequency for the fastest and most stable preparation of good colloidal silver with a high ratio of actual metal in suspension as opposed to the electron stripped ionic silver. Yes, I published the equation for it years ago on this list. I don't remember the equation any more, but for 2 minute cycle time it comes out to about 20 volts, for 50 hertz about 9 KV and for 60 hertz about 10 KV. Marshall Would perhaps 1Hz or even 0.01Hz be better? 50/60Hz would be ideal, since it comes that way out the box so to speak. That question makes no sense. The proper frequency depends on the voltage. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member.
Dan Nave wrote: Clive, I am not aware that just using AC gives more colloidal particles as opposed to ionic silver. Depends on what you mean by AC and more. With a low voltage system, and reversing the voltage every minute, it produces smaller particles. Since they are smaller, then there will be more numerically than if they were large, but the total weight of the particles may be less. Adding stirring makes this even more so. If you are using 10 KV and 60 htz, then it is will because of the violent movement of ions around the electrode cause them to combine into particles more easily. But this also limits the maximum ppm one can make with HVAC to under 10 ppm, and you have to use freezing water with a cooler to even do that. Marshall I do know that some people here add a small quantity of H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) some time after the CS is made and feel that this increases the percentage of metallic silver particles. Dan Clive Mitchell wrote: In message 473761a2.6080...@comcast.net, Dan Nave na...@comcast.net writes Can you reference your new AC technique? I was pointed to a site called:- http://www.silver-colloids.com/ Which has some of the most useful and bluntest raw technical data I've seen associated with colloidal silver. It indicated that most simple DC silver preparation tends to produce ionic silver as opposed to the proper useful silver suspension associated with a colloidal liquid. A quick skim over the 'net showed simple AC units using just a transformer connected to the electrodes with no current limiting, while other more sophisticated units described using AC but with fluid conduction monitoring to shut off the current when the desired conductivity was reached. I wonder if there is an optimum frequency for the fastest and most stable preparation of good colloidal silver with a high ratio of actual metal in suspension as opposed to the electron stripped ionic silver. Would perhaps 1Hz or even 0.01Hz be better? 50/60Hz would be ideal, since it comes that way out the box so to speak. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
faith gagne wrote: Okay. So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? I get mine in the health food store. it is in the cleaning section. Are there different strengths of it? Normally it is pure, and requires dilution before use. Is it cream or liquid? DMSO is a liquid. It can be mixed with things to make a cream. Do you just rub it on or can you drink it? Some people drink it, I never have. Are there tablets? No, you cannot put a volatile liquid into a tablet. Marshall Thanks very much Dianne. Faith G - Original Message - *From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Faith We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also. I have severe arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected areas. Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries. It has helped with pain and swelling. I was just trying to answer where you could get it. Dianne - Original Message - *From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it for arthritis pain. I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7. I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse medicine. Thanks anyway. Faith G - Original Message - *From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Faith, You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse feed/supply stores. It isn't expensive. It comes in liquid and gel. We use the liquid. There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from. Dianne - Original Message - *From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Where do you get DMSO? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote: Would DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so, would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully received as would any other suggestions. Ian in Spain DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS. It gets the CS into difficult area. Chuck There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned by cats. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnode Silver - cathode what?
Faith Saint Francis wrote: Greetings Silver List! I have a small 'beginners' question here: There was once a thread about two / or one silver rod in the water. The Anode should be real (99,9) % silver, right? At a minimum. . is fine as well. How long should this rod be, if it is 2 millimeter in diameter? Depends on the current you are running. Aim for 1 mA per square inch or less. And what metal should the cathode then be? Silver is best. Gold can be used. I know some use stainless steel, but I am not convinced that it does not get involved. Silver must be used if you are using polarity reversing, since the anode and cathode swap each half cycle. And please freshen us up about the time for the best home-made silver (with 30 volts)? Depends on the current, and how many ppm you want. Use the Fairday equations, and compute the amount of time needed for your setup. Marshall Thank you all, FaithStFrancis Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
Thanks Marshall. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver faith gagne wrote: Okay. So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? I get mine in the health food store. it is in the cleaning section. Are there different strengths of it? Normally it is pure, and requires dilution before use. Is it cream or liquid? DMSO is a liquid. It can be mixed with things to make a cream. Do you just rub it on or can you drink it? Some people drink it, I never have. Are there tablets? No, you cannot put a volatile liquid into a tablet. Marshall Thanks very much Dianne. Faith G - Original Message - *From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Faith We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also. I have severe arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected areas. Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries. It has helped with pain and swelling. I was just trying to answer where you could get it. Dianne - Original Message - *From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it for arthritis pain. I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7. I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse medicine. Thanks anyway. Faith G - Original Message - *From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Faith, You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse feed/supply stores. It isn't expensive. It comes in liquid and gel. We use the liquid. There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from. Dianne - Original Message - *From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM *Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver Where do you get DMSO? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote: Would DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so, would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully received as would any other suggestions. Ian in Spain DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS. It gets the CS into difficult area. Chuck There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned by cats. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHome made generator
well, now... SIGN ME UP! for the older circuit boards- it already has a potentiometer on it? That is my fave. I have been thinking about how to do this lately. And auto off , too? Cool. By the way, part one of the Mysterious Origins of man came, and it had one segment, plus a couple of interviews. It was interesting, I'll comment later on the off-topic list. There are 3 discs in the set, so it seems like 3 hours or so. Kathryn On Nov 12, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: I have a few 1 teflon stir bars $7 each, free shipping. [That's my cost ] I stopped selling them because they ARE too expensive and don't work as well as the ones I make using much stronger magnets. Those..a set of 2 for $3..free shipping. Cheezy and primitive looking magnets in a plastic tube, but they hook up like nobodies bidness. PS I also have a number of the older circuit boards that were made for the wrong power input plug. $5...you populate it with common parts from the shack It'll save several hours of running wires on a breadboard. Add $5 for a little black box to house it in. [the shack doesn't have those ] Current control, adjustable or set from microamps to around 6 milliamps. Automatic water monitoring off function...adjustable or set AC or DC input up to 36 volts...DC only output. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member.
Morning Marshall, At 10:18 AM 11/12/2007, you wrote: If you use AC you must understand that there are two reactions that occur at the electrode. One is an oxidizing reaction and the other reducing. Is there any worthwhile advantage to using AC ? If there was, more of us would be doing it, would we not ? Surely anyone can wire one diode or a simple full wave bridge into the circuit.Some of them cost near nothing, have 4 leads, and are labeled AC, AC, + and - .. I must be missing something, .. or someone else is. Then, when all else fails, they could plug into the telephone jack. That is about as complicated as wiring up a diode. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member.
Hi Big Clive, Welcome. Mains frequency tends to strip and re-plate because the 'particles' do not have time to escape the field around the rod it is being stripped from, so you end up with virtually no silver in the water. That was one of the theories anyway. The stripping/re-plating effect goes on even when running dc, but stirring usually brings fresh electrolyte to the rods. I usually run at 1mA per sq inch and with well water there seems to be enough silver in 250ml in the order of less than 5 minutes. Distilled water should require considerably more time. Yes we would all like a reasonably priced measuring device for accurate, sensible answers. regards, Tony Moody, On 11 Nov 2007 at 19:17, Clive Mitchell wrote about : Subject : CSNew member. Hi. Just dropping a quick note to say hello and get off to a bad start by asking awkward questions I've been playing with simple colloidal silver makers based on .999 silver rods with a single PP3 9V cell and a resistor and high sensitivity LED in series. I've had to make do with tap water since getting distilled water is surprisingly difficult in Scotland where our tap water is one of the purest available, and thus bottled water has the same status as a bottle of cola. (Just a handy drink.) The results have been the fine mist of ionic silver and the inevitable darkening of the fluid over time as the ionic silver bonded with the tiny amount of chlorine and nitrates present in the water. Last night I stumbled across the technique of using AC to make a less ionic solution and promptly built a new version that is powered by a 24Vac wall wart connected to the electrodes via a 1k resistor and two LEDs in inverse parallel so they both light on the AC and don't rectify the supply. I left it on all day today and the water shows no sign of the usual misting from the electrodes and has remained absolutely clear. A test with the resistive style dissolved solids tester showed that water from the tap had 40ppm impurities while the treated water was identical. H. A test with a fairly high output green laser showed fresh water had little absorption, but the treated water had quite a strong line and sparkle to it suggesting that there is some form of silver going into the liquid. Is 50Hz too high a frequency for the preparation of colloidal/ionic silver? Any comments would be appreciated. I wish there was an easy way to get a genuine measurement of the amount of colloidal and ionic silver present in a solution. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Arnold-- I lost your web page-- Help, I need some 99.99 wire. TJ
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does anyone have some phosphor bronze? My son would like to make some tweezers... Thanks, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In message 6.1.2.0.2.20071112124349.072d9...@mail.netdoor.com, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com writes Is there any worthwhile advantage to using AC ? If there was, more of us would be doing it, would we not ? There's a suggestion that AC might result in a greater amount of elemental silver being created in the water as opposed to the ionic silver from the use of plain DC. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Marshall, At 10:18 AM 11/12/2007, you wrote: If you use AC you must understand that there are two reactions that occur at the electrode. One is an oxidizing reaction and the other reducing. Is there any worthwhile advantage to using AC ? If you are talking about HVAC then it can make CS more rapidly than LVDC (with or without polarity reversing) since it does not require you to maintain 1 mA or less current per square inch to get good product. If there was, more of us would be doing it, would we not ? Depends on what you mean by AC. Many if not most of us do use polarity reversal, which is a low frequency AC. I certainly do, 1 minute per half cycle.. If you mean higher frequencies like 60 hertz, then I doubt it, not many people want to deal with 10,000 volts, nor purchase $2,000 worth of liquid refrigeration equipment.. I used to, but was limited to about 10 PPM, and needed to go to 20 PPM. Surely anyone can wire one diode or a simple full wave bridge into the circuit.Some of them cost near nothing, have 4 leads, and are labeled AC, AC, + and - .. I would certainly think so. But I prefer to use a bench supply, which allows me to change the voltage, and read the current easily. I use a 7805 with a resistor to make it constant current. I must be missing something, .. or someone else is. Not sure what you mean. Then, when all else fails, they could plug into the telephone jack. That is about as complicated as wiring up a diode. There are those that use that. Marshall Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSideas for possible speedier healing
Yesterday I had the misfortune to stump my little toe against the leg of my rebounder (yeah I know, need to look where I put my feet :-| ).. It tore the nail off by 99%, and I went to emergency where a kind doctor cut the tissue and removed all of nail. My own attempt on pulling it off didn't work, pain was even worse than pain I already felt. Anyhow, I am now left with a raw nail bed, rather sore to walk on foot, but at least the bleeding has stopped. Because of the bleeding I couldn't put any arnica around the rest of the toe that received just the trauma but no torn skin, so the swelling will be slower to come down. umm.. wasn't quite my day Would anyone have any suggestions towards a speedy healing of this sort of injury? I have my spray with CS and DMSO ready for when the bandage comes off.. That should be tomorrow (if I can handle it being on there for so long). Thanks for all input Hanneke ~ Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm Best Regards, Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: T. J. Garland To: silver silver list ; silver off topic Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: CSNeed some electrodes Arnold-- I lost your web page-- Help, I need some 99.99 wire. TJ
Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing
for any trauma injury, I use undiluted DMSO (painted on with my fingers) the swelling goes down and the pain stops almost immediately. The healing takes place in about a quarter of the time... On 11/12/07, Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au wrote: Yesterday I had the misfortune to stump my little toe against the leg of my rebounder (yeah I know, need to look where I put my feet :-| ).. It tore the nail off by 99%, and I went to emergency where a kind doctor cut the tissue and removed all of nail. My own attempt on pulling it off didn't work, pain was even worse than pain I already felt. Anyhow, I am now left with a raw nail bed, rather sore to walk on foot, but at least the bleeding has stopped. Because of the bleeding I couldn't put any arnica around the rest of the toe that received just the trauma but no torn skin, so the swelling will be slower to come down. umm.. wasn't quite my day Would anyone have any suggestions towards a speedy healing of this sort of injury? I have my spray with CS and DMSO ready for when the bandage comes off.. That should be tomorrow (if I can handle it being on there for so long). Thanks for all input Hanneke ~ Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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On 11/12/2007 6:00:53 PM, Hanneke (bloss...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Would anyone have any suggestions towards a speedy healing of this sort of injury? I have my spray with CS and DMSO ready for when the bandage comes off.. That should be tomorrow (if I can handle it being on there for so long). Thanks for all input Hanneke ~ Australia If it were me, I'd get dmso to it as soon as possible. Evem if I had to injest it (which I do). I take a teaspoonful in a shot of water (or CS), followed by another shot of water. Be prepared for a sickly sweet taste so that you can ignore it. Chuck You might be a redneck computer junkie if... Yer puter has a bumper sticker on it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 09:43 AM 13/11/2007, you wrote: I take a teaspoonful in a shot of water (or CS), followed by another shot of water. Take this just a few times a day for a couple of days? or just once a day for a couple of days? Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Day Don't you get a burning feeling that way? I've used it on open wounds full strength on myself and it burned. It healed very quickly though. We use it a lot but I've never done it internal. Have used IV on horses. Dianne - Original Message - From: Day Suttonmailto:day.sut...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing for any trauma injury, I use undiluted DMSO (painted on with my fingers) the swelling goes down and the pain stops almost immediately. The healing takes place in about a quarter of the time...
CSideas for possible speedier healing
Would anyone have any suggestions towards a speedy healing of this sort of injury? I have my spray with CS and DMSO ready for when the bandage comes off.. That should be tomorrow (if I can handle it being on there for so long). Oh my -- you poor dear. My toes were scrinching up just reading about yours. Do you know anyone who has a Respond laser? This is a low-level cold light laser that speeds healing remarkably. And it doesn't have to touch the surface to do its work. MA
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On 11/12/2007 6:33:29 PM, Hanneke (bloss...@aapt.net.au) wrote: At 09:43 AM 13/11/2007, you wrote: I take a teaspoonful in a shot of water (or CS), followed by another shot of water. Take this just a few times a day for a couple of days? or just once a day for a couple of days? Hanneke I go on an as needed schedule. What you propose sounds reasonable. Chuck Did you hear about the cat who drank 5 bowls of water? He set a new lap record. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks for the DMSO suggestions... the shot with tsp DMSO is down.. , I took the bandage off, wound doesn't look too bad, sorta, painted toe with undiluted DMSO, bit hesitant to put on wound ..more so because of the burning effect than that it might cause adverse reaction. ok, have to be a big girl, will put some one that as well.. with a bit of luck I'll be running again soon. Thanks all so much. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 11/12/2007 7:06:02 PM, Hanneke (bloss...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Thanks for the DMSO suggestions... the shot with tsp DMSO is down.. , I took the bandage off, wound doesn't look too bad, sorta, painted toe with undiluted DMSO, bit hesitant to put on wound ..more so because of the burning effect than that it might cause adverse reaction. Undiluted DMSO is not the best idea. DMSO works best at dilutions of 10% to 70%, and usually at 50% or less. It just works better. Chuck Did you hear about the cat who swallowed a ball of wool? She had mittens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't know much about CS, but I know emu oil works wonders AND it relieves pain. I hinked up my knee somehow last week, and could barely stand to hobble around on it. I grabbed the bottle of emu oil I ordered online the week before;) and poured out a little about the size of a dime and rubbed into my poor sore knee. By golly it worked like a charm! I bought it mainly for my really dry skin, but the claims were that it helped with pain too, so I tried it, and it worked! It's supposed to help with scarring too. Hmmm, I wonder if I could mix a little CS with it? Emu oil penetrates ALL the layers of skin so it acts like a carrier, sort of like DMSO, but not. I can't say enough good things about what it did for my knee. By golly I was almost in tears it hurt so badly. And the effect lasted 4-6 hours after which I just reapplied it. It only took a couple of days applying it, and I was good as new! I'll bet it would carry CS right through the skin too! I haven't tried that yet, has anyone else? I know there's Silvadene, that's supposed to reduce scarring too, but you can only get Silvadene by prescription I think. I'll bet emu oil and cs would work just as good or better! - Original Message - From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: CSideas for possible speedier healing Yesterday I had the misfortune to stump my little toe against the leg of my rebounder (yeah I know, need to look where I put my feet :-| ).. It tore the nail off by 99%, and I went to emergency where a kind doctor cut the tissue and removed all of nail. My own attempt on pulling it off didn't work, pain was even worse than pain I already felt. Anyhow, I am now left with a raw nail bed, rather sore to walk on foot, but at least the bleeding has stopped. Because of the bleeding I couldn't put any arnica around the rest of the toe that received just the trauma but no torn skin, so the swelling will be slower to come down. umm.. wasn't quite my day Would anyone have any suggestions towards a speedy healing of this sort of injury? I have my spray with CS and DMSO ready for when the bandage comes off.. That should be tomorrow (if I can handle it being on there for so long). Thanks for all input Hanneke ~ Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I was wondering what DMSO would do for you taking it internally?? I have heard of a few doing this. I am rubbing on my little tumor on upper arm but so far can't really see a difference. Leslie - Original Message - From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing Thanks for the DMSO suggestions... the shot with tsp DMSO is down.. , I took the bandage off, wound doesn't look too bad, sorta, painted toe with undiluted DMSO, bit hesitant to put on wound ..more so because of the burning effect than that it might cause adverse reaction. ok, have to be a big girl, will put some one that as well.. with a bit of luck I'll be running again soon. Thanks all so much. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Chuck I normally use the dilutions 80/20, 70/30 or something close.. When for a particular purpose I am more precise with the ratios. I had cleaned the toe and around with CS removing any possible band aid adhesive or other undesirables, to avoid anything being carried inside... it was dripping with CS when applying the DMSO. Toe feels pretty warm at the moment but skin is not itching... yet Will use the spray I made which is a 70/30 solution CS:DMSO for further applications . Hanneke At 11:37 AM 13/11/2007, you wrote: On 11/12/2007 7:06:02 PM, Hanneke (bloss...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Thanks for the DMSO suggestions... the shot with tsp DMSO is down.. , I took the bandage off, wound doesn't look too bad, sorta, painted toe with undiluted DMSO, bit hesitant to put on wound ..more so because of the burning effect than that it might cause adverse reaction. Undiluted DMSO is not the best idea. DMSO works best at dilutions of 10% to 70%, and usually at 50% or less. It just works better. Chuck Did you hear about the cat who swallowed a ball of wool? She had mittens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: 12/11/2007 12:56 PM
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There is a yahoo dmso list with searchable archives: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Chuck Why don't cats play poker in the jungle? Too many cheetahs. On 11/12/2007 8:16:30 PM, Leslie (leslie1...@windstream.net) wrote: I was wondering what DMSO would do for you taking it internally?? I have heard of a few doing this. I am rubbing on my little tumor on upper arm but so far can't really see a difference. Leslie - Original Message - From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing Thanks for the DMSO suggestions... the shot with tsp DMSO is down.. , I took the bandage off -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 11:52 AM 13/11/2007, you wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com There is a yahoo dmso list with searchable archives: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Not sure if it is just me but having most things at my fingertips here. DMSO, pulsers, CS, zapper, and other things.. when it comes to an emergency for self, I have something of a blank, at least for a little while, as to what course to take my brain into gear for the first aid. Not a problem when it is for someone else... thank goodness for that. Thank you all for being here.. and jumping in and get my own thinking jump-started. This toe-thing has reminded me too to get Dr Morton Walkers' book - DMSO Nature's Healer, at last. Been on the list of books wanted long enough. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
