Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread Fuzzmom
I do animal rescue..and have used it. Right now I have cats with 
respiratory...they are now drinking straight silver instead of water..they love 
it...and it is helping. The higher the dose the better..you won't o.d. them. 
Too little won't do anything so either give them a second waterbowl or replace 
their water with silver for a week or better yet 2. Good luck. I'd also run a 
de/worm on her if you haven't in awhile...just in case. Hopefully that's all it 
is and nothing more serious. Good luck. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stacy Rappaport 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:46 AM
  Subject: CScs and pets


  Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and frequency 
did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and not eating much. 
Thank you. stacy



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CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.   
Do you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water  
automatically.  TIA dee



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Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I think if you eat a healthy diet Dan, this would be true i.e. that we  
would get everything we need from our food.  Unfortunately, hardly any  
of us here (UK) actually grow our own food anymore so have to have  
what we get in supermarkets.  This of course, is less than perfect so  
hence we don't get the proper nutrition because it isn't actually *in*  
the food we eat.  We also have pollution and acid rain etc., which  
contaminates everything.  Plus if you are like me, I don't eat very  
well because I'm too lazy and tend to eat junk, so I feel that if I  
take good supplements, I am at least having *something* healthy!  dee


On 25 Oct 2009, at 17:37, Dan Nave wrote:


It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend
large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health.
Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in
relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we
find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements...

I mean, I personally buy glucosamine for my joints (and it works
fairly well) but I think that this same material is available as food
(for non vegetarians) in cartilage and things like soups or bone broth
made from bones or chicken carcases, etc.  I find myself eating more
gristle and cartilige instead of cutting it out and throwing it away.
These things were used as food by our forefathers...

Also, Dr. David Williams MD points out that hyaluronic acid, which can
be taken as an injection or supplement for arthritis (extracted from
cock's combs), can be extracted by boiling chicken bones and
cartilage, as well as the membranes of eggs.

Speaking of eggs, can a bio available calcium be made by dissolving
the eggshells in vinegar?...

Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing, or have any
insight into this subject?

Dan





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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.  Do you
 have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water automatically.
  TIA dee


 Mine automatically switches itself off when it's done, then I open it and
refill it.  There's no way to open it when it's working as you have to
unplug the cable between base and lid to take the lid off.

cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread Deborah Gerard
I once gave cs to a woman who had a donkey who had a bad sore on his side that 
the vet couldn't get healed up...put it in a spray bottle she sprayed it 
several times thru the day and within a week it was gone.
Debbie





From: Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 3:33:17 AM
Subject: Re: CScs and pets


I do animal rescue..and have used it. Right now I have cats with 
respiratory...they are now drinking straight silver instead of water..they love 
it...and it is helping. The higher the dose the better..you won't o.d. them. 
Too little won't do anything so either give them a second waterbowl or replace 
their water with silver for a week or better yet 2. Good luck. I'd also run a 
de/worm on her if you haven't in awhile...just in case. Hopefully that's all it 
is and nothing more serious. Good luck. 
- Original Message - 
From: Stacy Rappaport 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: CScs and pets

Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and frequency 
did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and not eating much. 
Thank you. stacy



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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said  
before.  I was looking at a Megahome at JD Harris.  I don't know if  
the innards of it are stainless steel though, which I believe they are  
supposed to be.  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 09:33, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.   
Do you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water  
automatically.  TIA dee



Mine automatically switches itself off when it's done, then I open  
it and refill it.  There's no way to open it when it's working as  
you have to unplug the cable between base and lid to take the lid off.


cheers
Kirsteen





Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Garnet
The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale 
Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, 
depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be 
rinsed or wiped
out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on 
sediment that

will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add 
about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a 
dinner plate as the
top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the 
top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the 
sediment and it is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe 
off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless 
steel line if

they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as 
much as

the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it 
for other house

hold cleaning.

Garnet

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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.  Do 
you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water 
automatically.  TIA dee



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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which  
I use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot  
get it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this  
is the proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall  
have a lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was  
wondering if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my  
kettle out of all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely  
sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:

The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water  
Distillers

has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed  
or wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate  
as the
top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of  
the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and  
it is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These  
must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel  
line if

they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other  
house

hold cleaning.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Garnet

Citric should be fine. Any weak acid will remove the hard water
sediment.

I use pickling vinegar because it is cheap. It does not 
matter if
it is distilled since it is not being consumed. I do avoid 
the fumes

though, from any vinegar, because they will give me a headache.

Garnet

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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which I 
use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot get 
it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this is the 
proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall have a 
lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was wondering 
if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my kettle out of 
all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed or 
wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate 
as the

top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and it 
is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel line if
they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other house
hold cleaning.

Garnet




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CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Gina Moore
I've made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be fine.  I've
been taking 2oz daily.  I have a couple of questions though.

 

How do you make it more palatable?  I've been putting my salt water in it
and that helps tremendously.  I have Lyme disease and am doing the salt/c
protocol - I take about 10gm salt (Redmond's) in water daily, along with the
Vit C (which the liposomal version is working beautifully for).  I just
wondered what others were doing to get it down easier, or if that was even
an issue.

 

My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw somewhere
that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise!  Anyone know if this is true?  I'm
going to do some research on it, but I was quite alarmed at the statement!
MSG is something I avoid like the plauge!

 

Just wanted to get your thoughts.

Gina



Re: CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Garnet

I have heard that autolyzed yeast extract is MSG. If
you read labels and see yeast extract then it is
another way of saying MSG and still claiming no
MSG and natural status. Swanson's Chicken
Broth makes this claim but has yeast extract in
it and tastes like the same flavor enhancement to
me.

I am surprised to hear a claim that Lecithin is MSG,
that does not sound right?

Where did you find this information?

Garnet

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Gina Moore wrote:
I’ve made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be fine. 
 I’ve been taking 2oz daily.  I have a couple of questions though…


 

How do you make it more palatable?  I’ve been putting my salt water in 
it and that helps tremendously.  I have Lyme disease and am doing the 
salt/c protocol – I take about 10gm salt (Redmond’s) in water daily, 
along with the Vit C (which the liposomal version is working beautifully 
for).  I just wondered what others were doing to get it down easier, or 
if that was even an issue.


 

My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw 
somewhere that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise!  Anyone know if this is 
true?  I’m going to do some research on it, but I was quite alarmed at 
the statement!  MSG is something I avoid like the plauge!


 


Just wanted to get your thoughts…

Gina




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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said
 before.


Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach it but
I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others online and they
all look pretty similar.

cheers
Kirsteen


CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread lk
Found this website,  http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html  Considering the HM 
Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this 
meter? Anybody have experience with this company?
TIA



  

Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Garnet

The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet

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Kirsteen Wright wrote:



On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org 
mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote:


what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said
before. 



Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach it 
but I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others online 
and they all look pretty similar.


cheers
Kirsteen




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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread Clayton Family
not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer  
one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also  
read ppm, I like my data straight, without having to double the reading.


kathryn

On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote:

Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html Considering  
the HM Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any  
thoughts about this meter? Anybody have experience with this company?

TIA





Re: CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Clayton Family
MSG is MonoSodium Glutamate- so no lecithin is not msg, but I am not  
sure if it contains any- it does not taste like it to me, but that  
might not be a scientific statement.


I am wondering how the salt/C protocol is going. Hope it works for you.

Kathryn

On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Gina Moore wrote:

I’ve made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be  
fine.  I’ve been taking 2oz daily.  I have a couple of questions  
though…


How do you make it more palatable?  I’ve been putting my salt water  
in it and that helps tremendously.  I have Lyme disease and am doing  
the salt/c protocol – I take about 10gm salt (Redmond’s) in water  
daily, along with the Vit C (which the liposomal version is working  
beautifully for).  I just wondered what others were doing to get it  
down easier, or if that was even an issue.


My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw  
somewhere that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise!  Anyone know if this  
is true?  I’m going to do some research on it, but I was quite  
alarmed at the statement!  MSG is something I avoid like the plauge!


Just wanted to get your thoughts…
Gina




Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread sol

Stacy Rappaport wrote:
Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and 
frequency did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and 
not eating much. Thank you. stacy


You need to get a diagnosis. Please do not ignore the need for an actual 
diagnosis.

For info on using CS with pets you might like to join
the SilverPets list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/join
sol


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Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread Malcolm
Hi,

this might be an intestinal obstruction -- hair ball.  Often an oil or
butter (or Petromalt) will grease the way and the cat will eliminate
it one way or the other; sometimes not and the wad remains stuck in the
intestine.  If things don't improve with CS get some advice locally from
a pro; local humane society or animal shelter?.  

HTH,
Malcolm 

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 01:46 -0400, Stacy Rappaport wrote:
 Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and
 frequency did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and
 not eating much. Thank you. stacy


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RE: CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Gina Moore
I saw it on a video... don't have the source right now (it's on another
computer).  I did some research and found this site... http://msgmyth.com/.
Lecithin is listed as one of the things having 'factory created free
glutamate in varying amounts'.

It just concerns me.  It may be trace amounts so maybe it's not a concern.
Is there an alternative for making liposomal C?  I need to make some today
and I'll just use the lecithin I have and chance it.
Gina

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLiposomal C

I have heard that autolyzed yeast extract is MSG. If
you read labels and see yeast extract then it is
another way of saying MSG and still claiming no
MSG and natural status. Swanson's Chicken
Broth makes this claim but has yeast extract in
it and tastes like the same flavor enhancement to
me.

I am surprised to hear a claim that Lecithin is MSG,
that does not sound right?

Where did you find this information?

Garnet

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Re: CSAny feedback?

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
If you mix acetic acid and baking soda you produce sodium acetate.  
Since I have not investigated sodium acetate as to what effects it has 
on the body I really cannot say if the action would be the same or not.  
Sodium citrate is used as a booster for marathon runners because of it's 
ability to prevent lactic acid buildup through the body being able to 
metabolize it for the alkalinity as needed. Calcium and magnesium 
citrate are understood to be very efficient forms of those minerals and 
many supplements use it.  I am not aware of sodium acetate being used 
similarly.  That does not however mean that it cannot be or are not, 
simply I do not know.


Marshall

Sharlene Miyamura wrote:

Marshall,
 
One site said to mix baking soda with apple cider vinegar.  Would this 
be as good a substitute or is the mixture with citric acid much 
better? I'd appreciate your opinion.
 
Sharlene


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


jr orrilia wrote:

Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how
much citric acid?  Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be
doing the same.Orrilia


**

The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.
 All of the bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and
have to be expelled by the lungs or burping if the acid is not
added, and the CO2 in the blood will acidify it, at least short
term.  But of more concern is that baking soda will reduce your
stomach acid, forcing the body to make more. If you continue to do
this long term, it will be like taking antacids continually, which
can result in the either insufficient acid to properly digest your
food when taken with the water, or excessive acid when not
drinking the water resulting in heartburn.  Also it is much easier
for the body to deal with sodium citrate than sodium bicarbonate.

Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:
 When it hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and
becomes salt and CO2.  What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to
be expelled by the lungs is belched.  The body immediately starts
making more HCl to replace that which was neutralized by the
sodium bicarbonate.  The biproduct of the HCl production is sodium
bicarbonate again, but in the blood this time.  Now the sudden
increase in pH has to be counteracted by withholding CO2 in the
blood to bring the pH back to the normal range, or expelled by the
kidneys wasting it.  Increased CO2 in the blood makes one tired
and weary and high pH levels in the urine can promote an infection..

Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no
reaction in the stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes
slightly (like drinking plain water).  The sodium citrate moves
into the blood stream as sodium citrate.  Now sodium citrate is a
salt and has a pH of 7, and does not effect the blood pH at all
(actually it will lower it very slightly due to the buffering
effect which makes acids more alkaline and alkalines more acid).
 When the body needs a way to alkalize itself, any fat it burns,
or any food you eat, it will metabolize the sodium citrate first,
instead of pulling calcium from your bones or robbing other areas
of the body.  When sodium citrate is metabolized it produces
sodium sodium bicarbonate.  But the thing is, the conversion is at
the body's request and need, and it will only convert it as it
needs to to maintain pH.

This is a repost of what I posted before:

I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own.
Turned out to be very easy.

1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder
each in an 8 to 12 ounce glass
2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if
you put more than this it might foam over)
3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring
until foaming diminishes
4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
5. stir until foaming stops.

You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric
acid left over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it
it should have a slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it
should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or so.  Now add a little baking soda (
1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming stops. Continue this until no
foaming occurs after adding the soda (or the only bubbles you are
getting are from the CO2 dissolved in the water).  (this occurred
on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste salty,
but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure
between 7.0 and 7.2.   It is not imperative that you get it

Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This looks good Kirsteen.  Are you pleased with it and how long does  
it take to make 4litres?  (sorry if you've said all this before)  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:15, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said  
before.


Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach  
it but I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others  
online and they all look pretty similar.


cheers
Kirsteen





Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable in  
the US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax, and  
some just do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time it  
takes to get here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet




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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread sol
A TDS meter is not adequate for my needs. I have a PWT, but I would get 
a Com-100 next time.

Silverpuppy sells the Com-100 for $55 shipping included.
sol

lk wrote:
Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html Considering the 
HM Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts 
about this meter? Anybody have experience with this company?

TIA





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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread lk
Thanks Kathryn. The HM AP-2 does measure in EC as opposed to ppm. I did notice 
that the sensor in the HM COM 100 is replaceable  it does measure to a  
smaller increment 0.1.  Are these things that one needs to be concerned about 
or is it just an added plus?
Reason I ask is I need to be economical but also don't want to cut myself short 
in getting the proper equipment to do the job right. :)


--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:09 PM

not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer one that 
reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also read ppm, I like 
my data straight, without having to double the reading.
kathryn
On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote:
Found this website,  http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html  Considering the HM 
Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this 
meter? Anybody have experience with this company?
TIA



  



  

Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Garnet

Didn't someone post a home made version not too long ago.

It's just boiling water with a collection plate that 
channels the

condensing steam into a collection bottle.

Garnet

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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable in the 
US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax, and some just 
do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time it takes to get 
here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet




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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread sol

Clayton Family wrote:
not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer 
one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also 
read ppm, I like my data straight, without having to double the reading.


I should add to my earlier post that I need distilled water to be .3 uS 
or less to make perfectly clear CS. And a TDS can't read that low, thus 
would be useless for me.

sol


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Re: CSObama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
From what I have been able to read on it, all this does is loosen the 
Fed regulations on the Medical centers and hospitals so that if they 
have more patients than they can handle, they can use tents somewhat 
away from the main building.  It appears to be a reduction in the 
Federal regulations and nothing more.  In fact, in those conditions I 
don't think the regulations should have every prevented that in the 
first place.  The present regulations would result in them turning 
people away.


Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:


 Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895ft=1f=1014 



Well hang on folks! Here we go! If it's a national emergency, can they 
force you to take the vaccine?



Annie


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Re: CSRaw Cider Vinegar

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Apple cider vinegar is alkalizing to the body (distilled vinegar is 
reported to be acidifying).  It is not however alkalizing to the 
stomach.  you might note that a HCl supplement will be very acidifying 
to the body alone.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I actually thought that ACV is alkalising, but am probably wrong.  dee

On 24 Oct 2009, at 19:59, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

Thanks for all the advice everyone. Of course, I'm still thoroughly 
confused VBG.


I don't have candida (at least not as far as I know :-)  But the food 
intolerance test definitely showed a strong reaction to yeast. So if 
the yeast is live I guess I should be avoiding it?  On the other hand 
I have low HCL (in fact I take a supplement for that) and was hoping 
the raw apple cider vinegar would help with that.


Why is life so complicated :-)

Thanks
Kirsteen






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Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley

About 750 to 800 mg according to this site:

http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells

Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:
So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses  as 
carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg 
shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. 
Well, unless it turns into something else?


Annie


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Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley

Stacy Rappaport wrote:
Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and 
frequency did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and 
not eating much. Thank you. stacy
Many of us, many times.  Basically give them CS instead of water to 
drink for most things.


Marshall


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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Citric acid can be used to unmineralize pipes and pans, but is not as 
fast as acetic acid, and also generally requires heat, whereas acetic 
acid will work at room temperature abet much slower.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which 
I use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot 
get it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this 
is the proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall 
have a lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was 
wondering if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my 
kettle out of all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely 
sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed or 
wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate 
as the

top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and it 
is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel line if
they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other 
house

hold cleaning.

Garnet




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Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements

2009-10-26 Thread Annie B Smythe
I've seen a recommendation to dry the shell, grind it up, and add lemon 
juice, but that turns the calcium into calcium citrate. Does Apple Cider 
Vinegar turn it into something else? Will the ascetic acid in the 
vinegar bind with the calcium to give you another form of calcium? I've 
 also seen a study on how the body handles this type of calcium. It 
seems  that this form of calcium is much better used by the body and 
increases bone density without increasing blood levels of calcium. Very 
interesting.


Annie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

About 750 to 800 mg according to this site:

http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells 



Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:
So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses  as 
carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg 
shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. 
Well, unless it turns into something else?


Annie


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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 This looks good Kirsteen.  Are you pleased with it and how long does it
 take to make 4litres?  (sorry if you've said all this before)  dee


 Hi Dee

Don't worry about asking, it's no problem. On the whole I'm really pleased
with it, I just find the switch a bit of a nuisance. It's meant to be a sort
of touch switch but I usually end up having to take a knife handle to press
on the right spot.

I think it's about 4 or 5 hours. I'm not sure as i often put it on when I'm
going to bed as it's got an automatic cut-off when it's empty.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread Fuzzmom

Wow..I didn't know there was an actual  silverpets list? awesome..thanks!
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: CScs and pets



Stacy Rappaport wrote:

Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and
frequency did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and
not eating much. Thank you. stacy


You need to get a diagnosis. Please do not ignore the need for an actual
diagnosis.
For info on using CS with pets you might like to join
the SilverPets list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/join
sol


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Re: CScs and pets

2009-10-26 Thread John E. Stevens
I use CSW  7 - 10 ppm and Flor*Essence Tea (Essiac) with my cats.  The CSW
heals, The Flor*Essence detoxifies and cures any animal cancers.

John

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Stacy Rappaport stacy07...@gmail.comwrote:

 Has anyone used cs to help and ailing pet? what type of dosage and
 frequency did you use? My cat of 5 years is suddenly losing weight and not
 eating much. Thank you. stacy



Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements

2009-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley

Annie B Smythe wrote:
I've seen a recommendation to dry the shell, grind it up, and add 
lemon juice, but that turns the calcium into calcium citrate. Does 
Apple Cider Vinegar turn it into something else? Will the ascetic acid 
in the vinegar bind with the calcium to give you another form of calcium? 


Calcium acetate. To get calcium citrate requires using citric acid.

Marshall
I've  also seen a study on how the body handles this type of calcium. 
It seems  that this form of calcium is much better used by the 
body and increases bone density without increasing blood levels of 
calcium. Very interesting.


Annie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

About 750 to 800 mg according to this site:


http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells 




Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:
So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses  as 
carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg 
shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of 
calcium. Well, unless it turns into something else?


Annie


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Re: CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Laurie Valente
Check out the website www.truthinlabeling.org  it has a link for some other 
names MSG is known to be. Read the labels carefully. I printed out the list and 
carry it with me to the grocery store to be sure to purchase items without MSG. 
www.dorway.com  and www.russelblaylockmd.com are another source if you'd like 
to learn more.  

Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gina Moore 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: CSLiposomal C


  I've made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be fine.  I've 
been taking 2oz daily.  I have a couple of questions though.

   

  How do you make it more palatable?  I've been putting my salt water in it and 
that helps tremendously.  I have Lyme disease and am doing the salt/c protocol 
- I take about 10gm salt (Redmond's) in water daily, along with the Vit C 
(which the liposomal version is working beautifully for).  I just wondered what 
others were doing to get it down easier, or if that was even an issue.

   

  My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw somewhere 
that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise!  Anyone know if this is true?  I'm going 
to do some research on it, but I was quite alarmed at the statement!  MSG is 
something I avoid like the plauge!

   

  Just wanted to get your thoughts.

  Gina


CSthe best buy for making CS

2009-10-26 Thread Stacy Rappaport
Hi All, Still finding my way. I'm to go forward with taking CS. I have one
source, no two, JIm M.s which seems like a well made genrator. a silver
puppy i see that's $70 less, seems just as adequate but perhaps it's alower
quality. Would you share with me what you have? what you've found to be a
good product at a good price? are the two synonmous? i'm ready to take the
plunge yet want the best generator. If you feel more comfortable, please
email me off list at stacy07...@gmail.com.

thanks you so very much.
stacy


Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread Clayton Family
It depends on how fussy you want to be. I like my meters, and for me,  
55 dollars is not too much. I like to be fussy at times, and wanted to  
see how accurate I could get with an at home battery set up, so I  
needed the extra accuracy for my own purposes. Others say they make  
perfectly good stuff with the ppm meter. They are all EC meters, at  
least the ones I looked at; it depends on the calibration ( I decided  
against doing additional calibration) and accuracy. I have had mine  
for maybe 3 years? and the electrodes are fine. They might wear out  
more if you are measuring salt water, but for our purposes, probably  
not necessary. It is nice to have one that is immersible.


What I have heard is that if you have the tds (reads in Total  
Dissolved Solids) meters, then you just have to double the reading.  
And when you measure the water first, to see that it is good enough,  
it needs to measure zero or below 2- someone correct me if I am in  
error.


HM is a good company. Don't know about the seller, though. I got mine  
from silverpuppy dot com


Kathryn

On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM, lk wrote:

Thanks Kathryn. The HM AP-2 does measure in EC as opposed to ppm. I  
did notice that the sensor in the HM COM 100 is replaceable  it  
does measure to a  smaller increment 0.1.  Are these things that one  
needs to be concerned about or is it just an added plus?
Reason I ask is I need to be economical but also don't want to cut  
myself short in getting the proper equipment to do the job right. :)



--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:09 PM

not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I  
prefer one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100  
will also read ppm, I like my data straight, without having to  
double the reading.


kathryn

On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote:

Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html  
Considering the HM Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very  
reasonable. Any thoughts about this meter? Anybody have experience  
with this company?

TIA




Re: CSwater distiller

2009-10-26 Thread ATOMICSILVER

would like to see home made version ..please !
On 26/10/2009, at 12:47, Garnet wrote:


Didn't someone post a home made version not too long ago.

It's just boiling water with a collection plate that channels the
condensing steam into a collection bottle.

Garnet

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable  
in the US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax,  
and some just do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time  
it takes to get here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee

On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:

The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet


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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread lk
Thanks again. With the accuracy of the COM 100, it looks like the way to go 
especially since water purity is rule number one.

--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:24 PM

It depends on how fussy you want to be. I like my meters, and for me, 55 
dollars is not too much. I like to be fussy at times, and wanted to see how 
accurate I could get with an at home battery set up, so I needed the extra 
accuracy for my own purposes. Others say they make perfectly good stuff with 
the ppm meter. They are all EC meters, at least the ones I looked at; it 
depends on the calibration ( I decided against doing additional calibration) 
and accuracy. I have had mine for maybe 3 years? and the electrodes are fine. 
They might wear out more if you are measuring salt water, but for our purposes, 
probably not necessary. It is nice to have one that is immersible.
What I have heard is that if you have the tds (reads in Total Dissolved Solids) 
meters, then you just have to double the reading. And when you measure the 
water first, to see that it is good enough, it needs to measure zero or below 
2- someone correct me if I am in error.
HM is a good company. Don't know about the seller, though. I got mine from 
silverpuppy dot com
Kathryn
On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM, lk wrote:
Thanks Kathryn. The HM AP-2 does measure in EC as opposed to ppm. I did notice 
that the sensor in the HM COM 100 is replaceable  it does measure to a  
smaller increment 0.1.  Are these things that one needs to be concerned about 
or is it just an added plus?
Reason I ask is I need to be economical but also don't want to cut myself short 
in getting the proper equipment to do the job right. :)


--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:09 PM

not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer
 one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also read 
ppm, I like my data straight, without having to double the reading.
kathryn
On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote:
Found this website,  http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html  Considering the HM 
Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this 
meter? Anybody have experience with this company?
TIA




  

RE: CSEC meter

2009-10-26 Thread Neville Munn

Anything under 3uS is acceptable to me, although one can only use the purest 
water one may be able to get their hands on, beggars can't be chosers in some 
situations, at the end of the day, all things considered, when all is said and 
done and push comes to shove...look on the bright side...any EIS/CS is better 
than none g, so I wouldn't get paranoid over it, so long as one doesn't start 
putting a mish-mash of other 'stuff' in the water resulting in some dubious 
Frankenstein 'concoction'.

 

N.
 


Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:26:22 -0700
From: ladybugadoo...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com





Thanks again. With the accuracy of the COM 100, it looks like the way to go 
especially since water purity is rule number one.

--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:


From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:24 PM


It depends on how fussy you want to be. I like my meters, and for me, 55 
dollars is not too much. I like to be fussy at times, and wanted to see how 
accurate I could get with an at home battery set up, so I needed the extra 
accuracy for my own purposes. Others say they make perfectly good stuff with 
the ppm meter. They are all EC meters, at least the ones I looked at; it 
depends on the calibration ( I decided against doing additional calibration) 
and accuracy. I have had mine for maybe 3 years? and the electrodes are fine. 
They might wear out more if you are measuring salt water, but for our purposes, 
probably not necessary. It is nice to have one that is immersible.


What I have heard is that if you have the tds (reads in Total Dissolved Solids) 
meters, then you just have to double the reading. And when you measure the 
water first, to see that it is good enough, it needs to measure zero or below 
2- someone correct me if I am in error.


HM is a good company. Don't know about the seller, though. I got mine from 
silverpuppy dot com


Kathryn



On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM, lk wrote:




Thanks Kathryn. The HM AP-2 does measure in EC as opposed to ppm. I did notice 
that the sensor in the HM COM 100 is replaceable  it does measure to a  
smaller increment 0.1.  Are these things that one needs to be concerned about 
or is it just an added plus?
Reason I ask is I need to be economical but also don't want to cut myself short 
in getting the proper equipment to do the job right. :)


--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:


From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSEC meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:09 PM


not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer one that 
reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also read ppm, I like 
my data straight, without having to double the reading.


kathryn



On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote:




Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html Considering the HM 
Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this 
meter? Anybody have experience with this company?
TIA


  
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RE: CSLiposomal C

2009-10-26 Thread Gina Moore
I know about the dangers of MSG.  I am wondering about soy lecithin being a
source for MSG.  I'm using it to make Liposomal Vit C and really don't know
if I should or not!

 

Does anyone know of another emulsifying agent to use to make liposomal C
other than soy lecithin?

 

Thanks!

Gina

 

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From: Laurie Valente [mailto:lvalen...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLiposomal C

 

Check out the website www.truthinlabeling.org  it has a link for some other
names MSG is known to be. Read the labels carefully. I printed out the list
and carry it with me to the grocery store to be sure to purchase items
without MSG. www.dorway.com  and www.russelblaylockmd.com are another source
if you'd like to learn more.  

 

Laurie

- Original Message - 

From: Gina Moore mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:15 AM

Subject: CSLiposomal C

 

I've made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be fine.  I've
been taking 2oz daily.  I have a couple of questions though.

 

How do you make it more palatable?  I've been putting my salt water in it
and that helps tremendously.  I have Lyme disease and am doing the salt/c
protocol - I take about 10gm salt (Redmond's) in water daily, along with the
Vit C (which the liposomal version is working beautifully for).  I just
wondered what others were doing to get it down easier, or if that was even
an issue.

 

My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw somewhere
that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise!  Anyone know if this is true?  I'm
going to do some research on it, but I was quite alarmed at the statement!
MSG is something I avoid like the plauge!

 

Just wanted to get your thoughts.

Gina