If you mix acetic acid and baking soda you produce sodium acetate. Since I have not investigated sodium acetate as to what effects it has on the body I really cannot say if the action would be the same or not. Sodium citrate is used as a booster for marathon runners because of it's ability to prevent lactic acid buildup through the body being able to metabolize it for the alkalinity as needed. Calcium and magnesium citrate are understood to be very efficient forms of those minerals and many supplements use it. I am not aware of sodium acetate being used similarly. That does not however mean that it cannot be or are not, simply I do not know.

Marshall

Sharlene Miyamura wrote:
Marshall,
One site said to mix baking soda with apple cider vinegar. Would this be as good a substitute or is the mixture with citric acid much better? I'd appreciate your opinion. Sharlene

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Marshall Dudley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    jr orrilia wrote:

        Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how
        much citric acid?  Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be
        doing the same.    Orrilia

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    The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.
     All of the bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and
    have to be expelled by the lungs or burping if the acid is not
    added, and the CO2 in the blood will acidify it, at least short
    term.  But of more concern is that baking soda will reduce your
    stomach acid, forcing the body to make more. If you continue to do
    this long term, it will be like taking antacids continually, which
    can result in the either insufficient acid to properly digest your
    food when taken with the water, or excessive acid when not
    drinking the water resulting in heartburn.  Also it is much easier
    for the body to deal with sodium citrate than sodium bicarbonate.

    Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:
     When it hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and
    becomes salt and CO2.  What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to
    be expelled by the lungs is belched.  The body immediately starts
    making more HCl to replace that which was neutralized by the
    sodium bicarbonate.  The biproduct of the HCl production is sodium
    bicarbonate again, but in the blood this time.  Now the sudden
    increase in pH has to be counteracted by withholding CO2 in the
    blood to bring the pH back to the normal range, or expelled by the
    kidneys wasting it.  Increased CO2 in the blood makes one tired
    and weary and high pH levels in the urine can promote an infection..

    Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no
    reaction in the stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes
    slightly (like drinking plain water).  The sodium citrate moves
    into the blood stream as sodium citrate.  Now sodium citrate is a
    salt and has a pH of 7, and does not effect the blood pH at all
    (actually it will lower it very slightly due to the buffering
    effect which makes acids more alkaline and alkalines more acid).
     When the body needs a way to alkalize itself, any fat it burns,
    or any food you eat, it will metabolize the sodium citrate first,
    instead of pulling calcium from your bones or robbing other areas
    of the body.  When sodium citrate is metabolized it produces
    sodium sodium bicarbonate.  But the thing is, the conversion is at
    the body's request and need, and it will only convert it as it
    needs to to maintain pH.

    This is a repost of what I posted before:

    I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own.
    Turned out to be very easy.

    1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder
    each in an 8 to 12 ounce glass
    2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if
    you put more than this it might foam over)
    3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring
    until foaming diminishes
    4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
    5. stir until foaming stops.

    You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric
    acid left over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it
    it should have a slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it
    should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or so.  Now add a little baking soda (
    1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming stops. Continue this until no
    foaming occurs after adding the soda (or the only bubbles you are
    getting are from the CO2 dissolved in the water).  (this occurred
    on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste salty,
    but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure
    between 7.0 and 7.2.   It is not imperative that you get it
    alkaline unless you are adding pH drops to it, and since pH drops
    are nothing more than diluted MMS, if you leave it acid it will
    activate the MMS.

    You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To
    alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution
    into a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5
    gallon container.  If you taste the water after it is added, you
    can detect a slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight
    and not objectionable at all, at least to me.

    I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium
    supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain
    proper electrolyte balance.

    BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and
    7.2, which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day
    yesterday. Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is
    testing optimal now. Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though
    since I did not get the testing paper until last night.  I would
    watch my pH very carefully, if it gets too alkaline, then you need
    to use less in your water.

    Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of
    salt when cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt.


    Marshall


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