Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
hello sol, nice to hear from you--it seems ages since you posted. I hesitate to ask, but have you tried thinking of this neuropathy as being a herpes assault? I mean the zoster variety. If so, have you thought of MMS because this seems to have sorted mine and I've only been using it for a while. I get recurring bouts of mild shingles when I'm under stress, and then the 'stabbing' pains across my ribs and under my upper arms. this has stopped now. Just a thought. dee On 2 Aug 2010, at 00:35, sol wrote: Sad to say, my personal experience is that almost nothing works for me--I'm always the odd one out.as with my current peripheral neuropathy I am in the .5% to 3% of people who experience INCREASED pain from all NSAIDS...unfortunately this meant that opiate combos like vicoprofen didn't help very much. Neuropathy is a real bitch. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFDA-Warns-Consumers-of-Serious-Harm
Out of that thousands, a few over do it and whine that they were told it was safe. MMS is not safe..nor are many FDA approved drugs, but you have someone else to blame, somebody to sue...and they charge **everyone** a FORTUNE to take it be they errant or ignorant or not. Socialized blame? If you didn't make any money on it, you can't pay off lawsuits with the money you didn't make. How is a village idiot supposed to make a living !!! Ode At 10:13 AM 8/1/2010 -0700, you wrote: In reference to the FDA scare warning at http://www.sott.net/articles/show/212938-FDA-Warns-Consumers-of-Serious-Harm-from-Drinking-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-MMShttp://www.sott.net/articles/show/212938-FDA-Warns-Consumers-of-Serious-Harm-from-Drinking-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-MMS Let's see. Thousands of people around the world take this stuff daily or weekly. Thousands have been shown to be cured of malaria, HIV, AIDS, cancer, flu, colds, and many other illnesses. Has helped some recover from lupus and/or diabetes. Germs and viruses can't become immune to it. No research has been done by any recognized research lab or by the FDA. You can't patent the stuff so there is no way for the FDA or big pharmacy to make any money off this stuff. The worst side-effect anybody has gotten when following directions is mild nausea, occasional vomiting, and temporary diarrhea. Guess how many people die each year from FDA approved prescription medication? And now the FDA wants to scare everyone away from it. I figure so many people are turning to something that is cheap and works that it is having an impact on a profitable industry. Jim Humble was smart to move to an undisclosed location outside of the US. Typical. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
Marshalee; I assume the CS was homemade. How much and how often did you take it? I have Lyme and Candida On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ray, Well, CS cured me when 6 years of Doxy couldn`t. I was bitten 20 years ago (!!) and 6 years later found CS. It worked! I`m still coping with permanent brain damage, but am a LOT better than I was with active Lyme. Marshalee On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Ray Berry rayibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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Subject line changed to reflect topic -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link hello sol, nice to hear from you--it seems ages since you posted. I hesitate to ask, but have you tried thinking of this neuropathy as being a herpes assault? I mean the zoster variety. If so, have you thought of MMS because this seems to have sorted mine and I've only been using it for a while. I get recurring bouts of mild shingles when I'm under stress, and then the 'stabbing' pains across my ribs and under my upper arms. this has stopped now. Just a thought. dee On 2 Aug 2010, at 00:35, sol wrote: Sad to say, my personal experience is that almost nothing works for me--I'm always the odd one out.as with my current peripheral neuropathy I am in the .5% to 3% of people who experience INCREASED pain from all NSAIDS...unfortunately this meant that opiate combos like vicoprofen didn't help very much. Neuropathy is a real bitch. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
Hi! Well, I take 1 cup a day total, in 3 doses when actively ill (like right now for a toothache...I`m hoping to avoid a 900 dollar root canal) and I take a swallow a day as a preventive. Yes, I make my own, with a plug-in thingy. (Don`t know what it is called, right off hand.) Marshalee (alive since 1996 due to CS!!) On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: Marshalee; I assume the CS was homemade. How much and how often did you take it? I have Lyme and Candida On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ray, Well, CS cured me when 6 years of Doxy couldn`t. I was bitten 20 years ago (!!) and 6 years later found CS. It worked! I`m still coping with permanent brain damage, but am a LOT better than I was with active Lyme. Marshalee On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Ray Berry rayibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSstages of warts with cs
or try www.iHealthTree.com Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: CSstages of warts with cs Farm supply store or www.DMSO.com and some small country stores in the boonies Ode At 11:26 AM 7/31/2010 -0500, you wrote: Where do people get their DMSO? On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Garnet_LDN garnet_...@austin.rr.com wrote: When I have used this method on skin tags and moles the appearance changes as they tissue is dying. The skin tags have turned black and crusty before falling off. The moles have gotten lighter and sloughed a layer at a time. The new growth of healthy skin is from the bottom up or inner areas to outer areas so it may look worse as it pushes the wart out because the wart tissue is dying. I have even seen cracking and bleeding. So looking worse is a good sign to me but as always monitor for inflammation, swelling and infection -- not likely with CS but still something to be aware of. Janet Lin wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstages of warts with cs
99.9% pure versus gel versus diluted - DMSO - opinions??? On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca wrote: or try www.iHealthTree.com Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: CSstages of warts with cs Farm supply store or www.DMSO.com and some small country stores in the boonies Ode At 11:26 AM 7/31/2010 -0500, you wrote: Where do people get their DMSO? On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Garnet_LDN garnet_...@austin.rr.com wrote: When I have used this method on skin tags and moles the appearance changes as they tissue is dying. The skin tags have turned black and crusty before falling off. The moles have gotten lighter and sloughed a layer at a time. The new growth of healthy skin is from the bottom up or inner areas to outer areas so it may look worse as it pushes the wart out because the wart tissue is dying. I have even seen cracking and bleeding. So looking worse is a good sign to me but as always monitor for inflammation, swelling and infection -- not likely with CS but still something to be aware of. Janet Lin wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
I found a site with a link to a free download of Dr. Simeon's manuscript... haven't researched anything yet, but thought I'd forward it in the hopes it's helpful: http://www.besthcgdiet.com/pounds-and-inches.html If those with experience and/or finding good info on this would share your findings, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Ruth - Original Message - From: needling around To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link Hi Nancy, Would you share the brand name of the homeopathic HCG you used and where you purchased it? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Nancy Venzon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link Just caught this threadHow timely, Tomorrow I will have just finished my 1st round of the HcG diet.It lasts for 23 days by taking .36 cc homeopathically for 1 bottle 23 days. I lost 20 lbs in the 23 days. It was amazing as I do not lose easily. I was not hungry nor hyper on it. The instructions say to go on a maintenance diet for the next 3 weeks then you wait some time before starting another round if you need to. Facebook has a good supportive group. It is very strict and restrictive but you are just not hungry. I did a lot of reading and psyching myself up to start it and am glad I did. I feel great. The only days I did not lose was days when I had cheated while out socially with friends, that is your downfall the social aspect of eating. --- On Sun, 8/1/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 4:12 PM I assume it is like everything else--nothing works for everyone, but everything works for someone. sol Renee wrote: If someone tries this, let us know. I had read where the homeopathic method did not work. You never know who to believe! Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ [Lisa] Nenah, do you have a link for the homeopathic recipe for the HCG? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
Marshalee -- Godzilla that toothache!! MA From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 9:26:01 AM Subject: Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease Hi! Well, I take 1 cup a day total, in 3 doses when actively ill (like right now for a toothache...I`m hoping to avoid a 900 dollar root canal) and I take a swallow a day as a preventive. Yes, I make my own, with a plug-in thingy. (Don`t know what it is called, right off hand.) Marshalee (alive since 1996 due to CS!!) On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: Marshalee; I assume the CS was homemade. How much and how often did you take it? I have Lyme and Candida On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ray, Well, CS cured me when 6 years of Doxy couldn`t. I was bitten 20 years ago (!!) and 6 years later found CS. It worked! I`m still coping with permanent brain damage, but am a LOT better than I was with active Lyme. Marshalee On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Ray Berry rayibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
I know of several people who have beat it using CS, a zapper, magnetic pulsing and ozonated water, that is the Bob Beck protocol. Marshall Kathryn Clayton wrote: I had a little bit of lyme, and the CS really helped me beat it, along with fungal disease. On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Ray Berry wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
put a couple of drops of Oil of Oregano on a little piece of cotton, and place it at the root of the tooth. Leave it in overnight. When I did that for two of my teeth the pain was gone the next day and never came back. It's hot, but it works.. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi! Well, I take 1 cup a day total, in 3 doses when actively ill (like right now for a toothache...I`m hoping to avoid a 900 dollar root canal) and I take a swallow a day as a preventive. Yes, I make my own, with a plug-in thingy. (Don`t know what it is called, right off hand.) Marshalee (alive since 1996 due to CS!!) On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: Marshalee; I assume the CS was homemade. How much and how often did you take it? I have Lyme and Candida On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ray, Well, CS cured me when 6 years of Doxy couldn`t. I was bitten 20 years ago (!!) and 6 years later found CS. It worked! I`m still coping with permanent brain damage, but am a LOT better than I was with active Lyme. Marshalee On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Ray Berry rayibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver and Lymes Disease
a cup would be between 8 and 10 oz. Like 3 oz three times per day. Sounds like you are taking it ongoing On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi! Well, I take 1 cup a day total, in 3 doses when actively ill (like right now for a toothache...I`m hoping to avoid a 900 dollar root canal) and I take a swallow a day as a preventive. Yes, I make my own, with a plug-in thingy. (Don`t know what it is called, right off hand.) Marshalee (alive since 1996 due to CS!!) On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: Marshalee; I assume the CS was homemade. How much and how often did you take it? I have Lyme and Candida On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ray, Well, CS cured me when 6 years of Doxy couldn`t. I was bitten 20 years ago (!!) and 6 years later found CS. It worked! I`m still coping with permanent brain damage, but am a LOT better than I was with active Lyme. Marshalee On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Ray Berry rayibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the use of CS with Lymes Disease. Thank you, Ray -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Yes, I've had many weeks of accupuncture, plus many other alternatives and conventional medical treatments, cervical epidurals, meds, traction, inversion, physical therapy, lidocaine trigger point injections, homeopathy, DMSO, herbals, (not all at once), yada yada.my accupuncturist is now trying laser therapy with me, as the needles simply have not worked for the neuropathy, but did helped for the neck/upper back pain tremendously, I can now lay down and sleep at night. I also have my own LED units, and a Sota mag pulser. Probably some other things Ive forgotten...this has been going on for 3 months.so far the best relief only gets the hand pain just to bearable..which is much better than unbearable, but my hands are pretty disabled, I can type now, with my ring fingers only, which is still an improvement. sol needling around wrote: Hi Sol, Have you tried acupuncture? Are you left handed or right handed? I used to treat a woman with PN from Lymes and she told me it was the most relief she had had. If you want to email me back channel I will be happy to discuss this with you. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
jaxi wrote: Sol have you tried LDN? I use LDN and DLPA in combo and have had less peripheral pain since I start than in the previous 6 years. Not gone by any means but so much less it is amazing. the only naltrexone I can get has an ingreedient I am allergic to, I tried LDN but the reaction was too bad. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
You're not in the US right? I order and make my own, but I know the compounding pharms can get pure - which could help with the filler issue. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:06 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: jaxi wrote: Sol have you tried LDN? I use LDN and DLPA in combo and have had less peripheral pain since I start than in the previous 6 years. Not gone by any means but so much less it is amazing. the only naltrexone I can get has an ingreedient I am allergic to, I tried LDN but the reaction was too bad. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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RE: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link Change the Subject Heading
Would you please change the Subject Heading when your post is not about the subject above. It would help a lot. Thank you. -Original Message- From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link You're not in the US right? I order and make my own, but I know the compounding pharms can get pure - which could help with the filler issue. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:06 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: jaxi wrote: Sol have you tried LDN? I use LDN and DLPA in combo and have had less peripheral pain since I start than in the previous 6 years. Not gone by any means but so much less it is amazing. the only naltrexone I can get has an ingreedient I am allergic to, I tried LDN but the reaction was too bad. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Have you tired the borax ingestion for your hand pain? Worked for me... Dan On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:04 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Yes, I've had many weeks of accupuncture, plus many other alternatives and conventional medical treatments, cervical epidurals, meds, traction, inversion, physical therapy, lidocaine trigger point injections, homeopathy, DMSO, herbals, (not all at once), yada yada.my accupuncturist is now trying laser therapy with me, as the needles simply have not worked for the neuropathy, but did helped for the neck/upper back pain tremendously, I can now lay down and sleep at night. I also have my own LED units, and a Sota mag pulser. Probably some other things Ive forgotten...this has been going on for 3 months.so far the best relief only gets the hand pain just to bearable..which is much better than unbearable, but my hands are pretty disabled, I can type now, with my ring fingers only, which is still an improvement. sol needling around wrote: Hi Sol, Have you tried acupuncture? Are you left handed or right handed? I used to treat a woman with PN from Lymes and she told me it was the most relief she had had. If you want to email me back channel I will be happy to discuss this with you. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal Silver Wiith Zeolite
Zeolite was recently discussed but not regarding its use combined with colloidal silver. When CS is mixed with zeolite the zeolite adsorbs the silver into its interior and releases silver ions slowly. Silver loaded. zeolite (SZ) acts very differently than CS alone and can be useful in some applications. SZ is not a substite for CS. CS is fast acting and can enter the bloodstream. SZ releases silver ions slowly over time and does not enter the bloodstream. But it has wide commercial use because of its unique qualities. Some of SZ's commercial uses include numerous types of antimicrobial coatings for metal and plastic surfaces, clothing and shoe odor treatments. It is added to paints, cosmetic skin treatments and toothpaste. And it is also used in wound treatment compounds. And even for removing salt from seawater. In many ways silver zeolite acts like silver particles. So one might ask why use silver loaded zeolite and not just silver particles? SZ does not degrade the materials it is added to. It is not as photosensitive as silver. If properly prepared, the silver is adsorbed into the internal structure of the zeolite and does not remain on the outer surface. This reduces the ability of other substances to complex with the silver and form undesirable insoluble compounds. For some time, I have used CS to hydrate clays and added it to zeolite and non swelling clays. I generally use silver citrate for this because I can make it in a high ppm which is good for this use. But you can also use EIS. With silver citrate, even the citric acid is adsorbed and the citric acid flavor disappears. With zeolite you can soak it in EIS pour off the water after the silver is adsorbed and then add more EIS. Each time increasing the silver percentage in the SZ. You can dry the SZ which makes it easy to store and use. It can be added to skin cream or used directly on wounds letting the moisture of the wound wet the zeolite. You can use it in a home made toothpaste. I take it orally just as I would use regular zeolite. The CS only partially fills the zeolite and the zeolite still acts to remove toxins. Frankly, I am not sure what to expect from this usage since it takes a number of days for the SZ to pass through ans zeolite is known to coat the intestinal walls. I don't use a lot or use it continually but have wondered that if I did would it have more of an effect on intestinal flora than CS? Does it provide a continuous release of silver ions into the bloodstream at a low level? I have not had any problems with flora die off but then I don't use a lot orally.. I think that SZ is another technique that provides additional possibilities. It is strange but I did not find much on the use of silver and clays. I would think that clay would act similarly to zeolite if mixed with CS and taken internally. - Steve N Paint additive: http://www.pcimag.com/Articles/Cover_Story/2d97218b1e6a7010VgnVCM10f 932a8c0 Checkmate for Microbes Toothpaste: http://www.pharmcast.com/Patents/September2000/092600OG/6123925_Toothpas te092600.htm Antibiotic toothpaste http://www.patentvest.com/console/reports/docs/grant/06306371.html Color stable silver zeolite containing dentifrice compositions Cosmetics: http://www.freshpatents.com/Method-of-treating-skin-condition-including- acne-skin-aging-body-odor---x26--diaper-rash-by-zinc-zeolite-clathrates- dt20080612ptan20080139507.php Method of treating skin condition including acne, skin aging, body odor diaper rash by zinc zeolite clathrates Coatings: http://www.zeolitanatural.com/docs/antimicrobialsilverzeolite.pdf Antimicrobial efficacy of a silver-zeolite matrix coating on stainless steel http://www.freshpatents.com/Antimicrobial-zeolite-and-antimicrobial-comp osition-dt20070823ptan20070197372.php Antimicrobial zeolite and antimicrobial composition Paper: http://www.smead.com/Director.asp?NodeID=1302 ANTIMICROBIAL PRODUCT PROTECTION Shoes: http://www.agion-tech.com/uploadedFiles/Technologies/IO_Fall2009%20Sci%2 0of%20Stink.pdf The Science of Stink http://www.piroshoes.com/technology Piro Shoes Desalting Seawater: http://www.archive.org/stream/us_patent_2600719/us_patent_2600719_djvu.t xt DESALTING COMPOSITION -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO Gel Vs 99.9% Pure
Undiluted liquid from a Farm Supply is cheaper, but you will need to dilute to various concentrations depending on where you are using it. I use 5% in eyes and nose, 20% on head, neck or face, stronger on areas where the skin is not sensitive and there is some body fat underneath. Individual sensitivity can vary, so best to start low and work up, from 20%. I have used it 70 - 99% on my hands, for burns, when I did not have time to dilute it. But it does dry out your skin and makes it look funny. It releases Histamine from Mast Cells so until that local supply is depleted you will get redness and itching right after you apply it. Drying of the skin can also occur so moisturizing with Aloe Gel or Emu Oil, my favorite, is recommended. Emu Oil goes on dry and penetrates to subdermal layers, is non-comedogenic ( not greasy ) and takes very little. Gel is easy to apply, so is roll on. Gel works really well for animals because you can work it into the fur but you are paying more. I often use the liquid on my animals and just squirted it on with a syringe or painted it on with a clean brush. Some people like the gel for convenience. Always dilute with distilled water and ALWAYS add the DMSO to the water and never add water to concentrated DMSO, because it releases a lot of heat, enough to melt a plastic container. You many want to join the DMSO group, check out the Files and Links sections. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Janet jaxi wrote: 99.9% pure versus gel versus diluted - DMSO - opinions??? On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca wrote: or try www.iHealthTree.com Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: CSstages of warts with cs Farm supply store or www.DMSO.com and some small country stores in the boonies Ode At 11:26 AM 7/31/2010 -0500, you wrote: Where do people get their DMSO? On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Garnet_LDN garnet_...@austin.rr.com wrote: When I have used this method on skin tags and moles the appearance changes as they tissue is dying. The skin tags have turned black and crusty before falling off. The moles have gotten lighter and sloughed a layer at a time. The new growth of healthy skin is from the bottom up or inner areas to outer areas so it may look worse as it pushes the wart out because the wart tissue is dying. I have even seen cracking and bleeding. So looking worse is a good sign to me but as always monitor for inflammation, swelling and infection -- not likely with CS but still something to be aware of. Janet Lin wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver Wiith Zeolite
Not that most people will notice the improper use of the word but A_d_sorb is used incorrectly in your post. To take into the interior is A_b_sorb. ad·sorb –verb (used with object) Physical Chemistry . to gather (a gas, liquid, or dissolved substance) on a surface in a condensed layer: Charcoal will adsorb gases. Janet Norton, Steve wrote: Zeolite was recently discussed but not regarding its use combined with colloidal silver. When CS is mixed with zeolite the zeolite adsorbs the silver into its interior and releases silver ions slowly. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: EXTERNAL:Re: CSColloidal Silver Wiith Zeolite
OOPS. Guess I only desorbed the info. BTW, I included a zinc/zeolite link by mistake. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Garnet_LDN [mailto:garnet_...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CSColloidal Silver Wiith Zeolite Not that most people will notice the improper use of the word but A_d_sorb is used incorrectly in your post. To take into the interior is A_b_sorb. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRegenerative wound healing using copper-silver citrate composition
Below is an interesting patent application and some excerpts from the patent. In a previous post I mentioned silver with zeolite. I had also found a number of zeolite applications that used zinc or copper alone or in combination with silver. - Steve N http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100099758 Patent application title: Regenerative wound healing using copper-silver citrate composition A composition containing copper and silver ions electrolytically generated in a solution of citric acid that also contains potassium carbonate is shown to expedite the healing of wounds with regeneration of normal tissue architecture and without excessive scarring. A wide range of wounds and other forms of tissue damage affecting the skin and other areas of the body respond favorably to the direct application of the composition, with expedited healing, re-growth of normal appearing (non-scar) tissue and symptomatic relief from pain and swelling. The composition acts in both humans and animals through a novel mechanism provisionally termed the tissue regeneration induced pathway (TRIP). [0047]The present invention stems from a series of serendipitous observations of expedited healing of skin wounds without significant scarring, in both humans and animals following the application of a copper-silver citrate composition. The composition was initially developed as an effective environmental antimicrobial disinfectant reagent. It has now been shown to promote wound healing and tissue regeneration. [0052]Copper citrate was developed as an antibacterial product that could show some preferential killing of gram positive bacteria It is produced by electrolysis of copper to a concentration of 300-500 ppm in a citrate solution, as a chelator. It was further decided to include silver at a concentration of approximately 50 ppm to potentially allow for better conductivity and possibly a broader antimicrobial action. The solution has performed very well as a disinfectant in hospitals and other locations. It has also displayed somewhat remarkable wound healing properties. [0054]The invention provides a copper-silver-citrate solution that has wound healing activities. Although the mechanism of its action is not well understood, the observations made t6 date far exceed anything reported in the current literature. The healing of skin wounds has been documented in both animals and humans and requires no more that daily exposure to a wounded area to achieve healing. More importantly, skin and other lesions are healing with far less scarring than would be expected from allowing the natural healing process to proceed within the intervention. Various concentrations of the stock solution have been tried with possibly more effect when undiluted but clearly with an effect even at a 10% concentration. Several examples are cited below. [0055]The product is routinely produced by electrolysis in a 3-5% citric acid solution buffered with potassium carbonate to pH 5.5. The current is provided by a 200 Amp 12 volt battery. The amount of silver dissolved is calculated to be between 30 and 50 ppm. At the end of the silver electrolysis, the pH is again adjusted to 5.5 and then copper is electrolytically dissolved to a concentration between 300-500 ppm. The pH of the solution is then adjusted to between 2.5 and 3.5 using additional citric acid. It is then filtered and bottled. Several batches have been tested and all have shown wound healing activities. Ongoing nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) studies are consistent with a close association of an enlarged copper atom with the central carboxylic functional group of the citrate molecule. [0056]Individual L.H. was using an electric screwdriver and inadvertently held his thumb in the path of the screw. The screw passed through both the front and the nail side of his thumb, leaving a gaping hole surrounded by flesh. It was apparent that the bone must have been penetrated. Two days elapsed with the thumb becoming more painful and beginning to throb. Because of concern about possible infection, the copper-silver-citrate solution was sprayed onto the wound at 100% concentration. Apart from the stinging, there were no adverse effects. The individual was instructed to dip his thumb into a 2 oz container of the copper-silver-citrate solution twice daily for 7 days. The hole closed over in one day and the swelling had resolved. By day 3 the wound had healed without noticeable scabbing, discolorization or scarring. An ultrasound of his thumb at day 7 showed a fully intact terminal phalange (finger bone). His thumb is now fully functional and unscarred with a normal appearing thumbprint. [0057]Individual R.B. had a long standing deep wound involving his left heel. His foot had been operated upon approximately a year earlier because of a methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection. The surgery included removal of a portion of the calcaneus (heel) bone. He was still left with an open, draining
CScs and antibiotics
hi,does anyone know if cs will bind to and reduce the effect of doxycycline and amoxicillin. thanks
RE:CScs and antibiotics
A 2007 study on the interaction of colloidal silver and antibiotics shows no problems with using colloidal silver and antibiotics. - Steve N http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Au g/Iroha%20et%20al.htm Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination with other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their susceptibility to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc diffusion technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of these agents. From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:CScs and antibiotics hi,does anyone know if cs will bind to and reduce the effect of doxycycline and amoxicillin. thanks
Re: RE:CScs and antibiotics
thanks for the info. however it doesn't state which antibiotics were used in the study. i read on another site that certain antibiotics such as tetracyline,quinolone and also penicillamine had their effectiveness reduced because of cs. now its possible this is biased reporting but if it isnt then there are specific antibiotics that are affected by cs. and i would like to know if doxycyline and amoxicillin are two of them. thanks again - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics A 2007 study on the interaction of colloidal silver and antibiotics shows no problems with using colloidal silver and antibiotics. - Steve N http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Aug/Iroha%20et%20al.htm Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination with other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their susceptibility to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc diffusion technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of these agents. From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:CScs and antibiotics hi,does anyone know if cs will bind to and reduce the effect of doxycycline and amoxicillin. thanks
Re: peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Hello Dave, Can you give more information on the Borax use? TIA, Jim On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tired the borax ingestion for your hand pain? Worked for me... Dan On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:04 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Yes, I've had many weeks of accupuncture, plus many other alternatives and conventional medical treatments, cervical epidurals, meds, traction, inversion, physical therapy, lidocaine trigger point injections, homeopathy, DMSO, herbals, (not all at once), yada yada.my accupuncturist is now trying laser therapy with me, as the needles simply have not worked for the neuropathy, but did helped for the neck/upper back pain tremendously, I can now lay down and sleep at night. I also have my own LED units, and a Sota mag pulser. Probably some other things Ive forgotten...this has been going on for 3 months.so far the best relief only gets the hand pain just to bearable..which is much better than unbearable, but my hands are pretty disabled, I can type now, with my ring fingers only, which is still an improvement. sol needling around wrote: Hi Sol, Have you tried acupuncture? Are you left handed or right handed? I used to treat a woman with PN from Lymes and she told me it was the most relief she had had. If you want to email me back channel I will be happy to discuss this with you. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE:CScs and antibiotics
The warning originated from the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a part of the NIH. See: http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. There is no basis for the warning provided. If anyone can provide data that SHOWS that colloidal silver interferes with ANY antibiotic, I would be very interested to see it. But as it is, anyone can make any unsubstantiated charge against CS and it is expected that CS uses must disprove the claim. Hey, believe whatever you want! Meanwhile here is a couple more. - Steve N Here is a study that shows that CS increases the bactericidal efficiency of amoxicillin Synergistic antibacterial effects of β-lactam antibiotic combined with silver nanoparticles http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0957-4484/16/9/082 When amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles are combined, it results in greater bactericidal efficiency on Escherichia coli cells than when they were applied separately. Dynamic tests on bacterial growth indicated that exponential and stationary phases are greatly decreased and delayed in the synergistic effect of amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles. In addition, the effect induced by a preincubation with silver nanoparticles is examined. The results show that solutions with more silver nanoparticles have better antimicrobial effects. And: http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/PDF/pdf2008/May/Iroha%20et%20al%20.pdf Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, which destroy beneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these beneficial enzymes intact (Hall et al., 1999). An added advantage to the use of silver is that it has variously been shown to have high safety profile in vivo and cannot interact or interfere with other medicines being taken (Iroha et al., 2007). Furthermore, it is known not to destroy the normal microbial flora of the gut thereby avoiding the negative effects of traditional antibiotics that kill good bacteria in the lower digestive tract (Beaker and Spadaro, 1981). From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: RE:CScs and antibiotics thanks for the info. however it doesn't state which antibiotics were used in the study. i read on another site that certain antibiotics such as tetracyline,quinolone and also penicillamine had their effectiveness reduced because of cs. now its possible this is biased reporting but if it isnt then there are specific antibiotics that are affected by cs. and i would like to know if doxycyline and amoxicillin are two of them. thanks again - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics A 2007 study on the interaction of colloidal silver and antibiotics shows no problems with using colloidal silver and antibiotics. - Steve N http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Aug/Iroha%20et%20al.htm Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination with other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their susceptibility to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc diffusion technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of these agents. From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:CScs and antibiotics hi,does anyone know if cs will bind to and reduce the effect of doxycycline and amoxicillin. thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List
Re: RE:CScs and antibiotics
this is great steve. thank you very much - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics The warning originated from the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a part of the NIH. See: http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. There is no basis for the warning provided. If anyone can provide data that SHOWS that colloidal silver interferes with ANY antibiotic, I would be very interested to see it. But as it is, anyone can make any unsubstantiated charge against CS and it is expected that CS uses must disprove the claim. Hey, believe whatever you want! Meanwhile here is a couple more. - Steve N Here is a study that shows that CS increases the bactericidal efficiency of amoxicillin Synergistic antibacterial effects of β-lactam antibiotic combined with silver nanoparticles http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0957-4484/16/9/082 When amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles are combined, it results in greater bactericidal efficiency on Escherichia coli cells than when they were applied separately. Dynamic tests on bacterial growth indicated that exponential and stationary phases are greatly decreased and delayed in the synergistic effect of amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles. In addition, the effect induced by a preincubation with silver nanoparticles is examined. The results show that solutions with more silver nanoparticles have better antimicrobial effects. And: http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/PDF/pdf2008/May/Iroha%20et%20al%20.pdf Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, which destroy beneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these beneficial enzymes intact (Hall et al., 1999). An added advantage to the use of silver is that it has variously been shown to have high safety profile in vivo and cannot interact or interfere with other medicines being taken (Iroha et al., 2007). Furthermore, it is known not to destroy the normal microbial flora of the gut thereby avoiding the negative effects of traditional antibiotics that kill good bacteria in the lower digestive tract (Beaker and Spadaro, 1981). From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: RE:CScs and antibiotics thanks for the info. however it doesn't state which antibiotics were used in the study. i read on another site that certain antibiotics such as tetracyline,quinolone and also penicillamine had their effectiveness reduced because of cs. now its possible this is biased reporting but if it isnt then there are specific antibiotics that are affected by cs. and i would like to know if doxycyline and amoxicillin are two of them. thanks again - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics A 2007 study on the interaction of colloidal silver and antibiotics shows no problems with using colloidal silver and antibiotics. - Steve N http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Aug/Iroha%20et%20al.htm Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination with other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their susceptibility to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc diffusion technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of these agents. From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:CScs and antibiotics hi,does anyone know if cs will bind to and reduce the effect of doxycycline and amoxicillin. thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
Re: CScs and antibiotics
All I know is that my husband came home from being sliced from from sternum to pubic area. He started having problems with redness developing the first day he arrived home. The V.A. Drs. prescribed silver ointment as they were having problems with resistant bacteria. Anita james wrote: this is great steve. thank you very much - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics The warning originated from the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a part of the NIH. See: http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. There is no basis for the warning provided. If anyone can provide data that SHOWS that colloidal silver interferes with ANY antibiotic, I would be very interested to see it. But as it is, anyone can make any unsubstantiated charge against CS and it is expected that CS uses must disprove the claim. Hey, believe whatever you want! Meanwhile here is a couple more. - Steve N Here is a study that shows that CS increases the bactericidal efficiency of amoxicillin Synergistic antibacterial effects of â-lactam antibiotic combined with silver nanoparticles http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0957-4484/16/9/082 When amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles are combined, it results in greater bactericidal efficiency on Escherichia coli cells than when they were applied separately. Dynamic tests on bacterial growth indicated that exponential and stationary phases are greatly decreased and delayed in the synergistic effect of amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles. In addition, the effect induced by a preincubation with silver nanoparticles is examined. The results show that solutions with more silver nanoparticles have better antimicrobial effects. And: http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/PDF/pdf2008/May/Iroha%20et%20al%20.pdf Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, which destroy beneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these beneficial enzymes intact (Hall et al., 1999). An added advantage to the use of silver is that it has variously been shown to have high safety profile in vivo and cannot interact or interfere with other medicines being taken (Iroha et al., 2007). Furthermore, it is known not to destroy the normal microbial flora of the gut thereby avoiding the negative effects of traditional antibiotics that kill good bacteria in the lower digestive tract (Beaker and Spadaro, 1981). From: james [mailto:j...@taconic.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: RE:CScs and antibiotics thanks for the info. however it doesn't state which antibiotics were used in the study. i read on another site that certain antibiotics such as tetracyline,quinolone and also penicillamine had their effectiveness reduced because of cs. now its possible this is biased reporting but if it isnt then there are specific antibiotics that are affected by cs. and i would like to know if doxycyline and amoxicillin are two of them. thanks again - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: RE:CScs and antibiotics A 2007 study on the interaction of colloidal silver and antibiotics shows no problems with using colloidal silver and antibiotics. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Dan Nave wrote: Have you tired the borax ingestion for your hand pain? Worked for me... Dan Yes, and no, it hasn't helped, in fact boron is one of my regular supps and this came on regardless. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Dunno if it's been mentioned, but high dose vitamin B6 will bring on this condition. My sister is recovering from this now. Chuck Innuendo: Italian for where you hang your curtains. On 8/2/2010 10:20:08 PM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote: Dan Nave wrote: Have you tired the borax ingestion for your hand pain? Worked for me... Dan Yes, and no, it hasn't helped, in fact boron is one of my regular supps and this came on regardless. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: peripheral neuropathy Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Sol, is it only in the hands, or in the feet, too? There was a woman on a list whose husband had really bad neuropathy in his feet. They found this machine, not super expensive, but more than a couple hundred, if I remember right. But it had a money back guarantee, so if it didn't work a person could send it back. She said the machine worked wonders for her husband, that he started to quickly not only loose the pain in his feet, but to get feeling back! It's some sort of super vibrator. Then someone else came on and said that they'd had the same experience with their machine. I can see if I still have the information if you are interested. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes, and no, it hasn't helped, in fact boron is one of my regular supps and this came on regardless.
CScs and antibiotics (Stop worrying)
The original source for the NCCAM warning is The Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database. A while ago I subscribed to that service specifically to learn more about that particular warning. Well there wasn't much more to learn. The NMCD had no supporting references and the risk was described as 'Theoretical and Minor'. So I wouldn't worry too much. (The fact the NCCAM published this 'theoretical' risk without any explanation sorta tells whose side they're on doesn't it?) David From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com The warning originated from the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a part of the NIH. See: http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
