Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: I use a TDS meter to test the water and it always reads 000 after just one distilling. Hi Dee I know you're in the UK too. Can you tell me what type of TDS meter you've got and where you got it.? Also what does your silver read after it's made? Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSMMS email received today
Thanks for sharing this. Which list are you referring to below? Alan On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble. There is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting and diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from chlorine poisoning rather than overload of die-off. He advocates (and uses) a 5% strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSMMS email received today
Something does not compute about this. Hubble's protocol has one drink a solution with no more than about 4/1000% of sodium chlorite in it. Whether one starts with 5% or 28% solution before diluting it should make no difference. Marshall Renee wrote: There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble. There is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting and diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from chlorine poisoning rather than overload of die-off. He advocates (and uses) a 5% strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS. There are those that have followed Jim's protocol and claim they've gotten their normal lives back after years of illness, and those that say he saved my life and so they are vehement against the chemist's gentler, safer protocol. Though he doesn't belong to the list, Jim came on to debate Tom and wound up looking bad (as in he could only defend himself by repeating 'I've given this to thousands of people and therefor it is safe'). Then there are those like me who go--if I had something really serious I was trying to kill I'd use Jim's (new) protocol--which, by the way, he changed from his original protocol because he finally had to admit, without actually admitting, that he did not understand the chemistry of sodium chlorite, nor what it does in the body, nor how long it is actually IN the body--of a few drops every few hours. BUT--for anything less serious I would certainly use the much safer 5% method the chemist recommends. As he says--it does the same thing as Jim's method, it just takes longer. There are situations where you don't mind it taking longer and then there are situations where you want it to be gone NOW. So I feel there is room for both. Jim, on the other hand, really hates anyone who tries to say his protocols aren't THE end to all illnesses. I've been using MMS since the web first heard about it, as MMS. Sodium chlorite, of course, has been used for decades before Jim brought it to public attention, with his own 'discovered' method. So you pretty much have to read both sides and choose for yourself. Sodium chlorite as MMS has always been a product of extremes. It does one thing for this person and the exact opposite for the next person, in every body response reported from MMS users. I've been on 2 MMS lists (one now defunct) for at least 3 years now and have 'seen it all'. MMS is an amazing thing, but it is MEDICINE, and should be handled with safety. Jim doesn't believe that there is anything at all unsafe about it. I know differently, but Jim refuses to acknowledge that. shrug Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list. Project Greenlife are recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice. It is on their website http://www.projectgreenlife.com They no longer sell MMS according to their site. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS email received today
It's the total amount ingested, not the strength of the solution that is important. Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Something does not compute about this. Hubble's protocol has one drink a solution with no more than about 4/1000% of sodium chlorite in it. Whether one starts with 5% or 28% solution before diluting it should make no difference. Marshall Renee wrote: There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble. There is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting and diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from chlorine poisoning rather than overload of die-off. He advocates (and uses) a 5% strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS. There are those that have followed Jim's protocol and claim they've gotten their normal lives back after years of illness, and those that say he saved my life and so they are vehement against the chemist's gentler, safer protocol. Though he doesn't belong to the list, Jim came on to debate Tom and wound up looking bad (as in he could only defend himself by repeating 'I've given this to thousands of people and therefor it is safe'). Then there are those like me who go--if I had something really serious I was trying to kill I'd use Jim's (new) protocol--which, by the way, he changed from his original protocol because he finally had to admit, without actually admitting, that he did not understand the chemistry of sodium chlorite, nor what it does in the body, nor how long it is actually IN the body--of a few drops every few hours. BUT--for anything less serious I would certainly use the much safer 5% method the chemist recommends. As he says--it does the same thing as Jim's method, it just takes longer. There are situations where you don't mind it taking longer and then there are situations where you want it to be gone NOW. So I feel there is room for both. Jim, on the other hand, really hates anyone who tries to say his protocols aren't THE end to all illnesses. I've been using MMS since the web first heard about it, as MMS. Sodium chlorite, of course, has been used for decades before Jim brought it to public attention, with his own 'discovered' method. So you pretty much have to read both sides and choose for yourself. Sodium chlorite as MMS has always been a product of extremes. It does one thing for this person and the exact opposite for the next person, in every body response reported from MMS users. I've been on 2 MMS lists (one now defunct) for at least 3 years now and have 'seen it all'. MMS is an amazing thing, but it is MEDICINE, and should be handled with safety. Jim doesn't believe that there is anything at all unsafe about it. I know differently, but Jim refuses to acknowledge that. shrug Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list. Project Greenlife are recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice. It is on their website http://www.projectgreenlife.com They no longer sell MMS according to their site. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpederson's silver
Okay, Jim, Ode, now that you have weighed in with intuition and Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS, how about some hard science that might actually help unenlightened laymen? Leo - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was offered Strange. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to look like chickens. Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS. Ode At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. Gordon Pederson at http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/? Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS TEST FOR EFFECTIVENESS
I would like to know if anyone has tried the mold test with CS: 2 slices of fresh bread. Spray on slice with water, and the other slice with any CS of your choosing. Place each slice in its own plastic baggy, and seal. Note how long for each slice of bread to develop mold. If the CS works, the bread with the CS will take 3x to 4x as long as the other slice to develop mold. Has anyone done this test yet?
CSCS TEST FOR EFFECTIVENESS
I would like to know if anyone has tried the mold test with CS: 2 slices of fresh bread. Spray on slice with water, and the other slice with any CS of your choosing. Place each slice in its own plastic baggy, and seal. Note how long for each slice of bread to develop mold. If the CS works, the bread with the CS will take 3x to 4x as long as the other slice to develop mold. Has anyone done this test yet?
Re: CSMMS email received today
Dunno, but there certainly is a difference in the amount of chlorine in the activated MMS, smell and taste wise. You'd have to talk to Tom for more facts about amounts and such. And mostly Tom does not advocate activating it externally either, as he says there's enough stomach acid to activate it. Certainly makes taking it much easier that way--although you can also use full strength drops this way too. I just find the 5% a much safer, easier to handle method, especially for those that seem to be sensitive to the AMMS. The ones that don't do well on that have much better luck on the 5%. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Something does not compute about this. Hubble's protocol has one drink a solution with no more than about 4/1000% of sodium chlorite in it. Whether one starts with 5% or 28% solution before diluting it should make no difference.
Re: CSMMS email received today
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miracle_mineral_supplement/ Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Thanks for sharing this. Which list are you referring to below?
Re: CSMMS email received today
Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I really like your seeing both sides, for that is my way... Thank you.happy.gif
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
Hi Kirsteen, I got mine from Ode and usually my CS reads 8 when its finished. I does sometimes go down to 4 though, or 5. dee On 18 Aug 2010, at 10:23, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: I use a TDS meter to test the water and it always reads 000 after just one distilling. Hi Dee I know you're in the UK too. Can you tell me what type of TDS meter you've got and where you got it.? Also what does your silver read after it's made? Cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS email received today
Renee wrote: Dunno, but there certainly is a difference in the amount of chlorine in the activated MMS, smell and taste wise. You'd have to talk to Tom for more facts about amounts and such. And mostly Tom does not advocate activating it externally either, as he says there's enough stomach acid to activate it. Certainly makes taking it much easier that way--although you can also use full strength drops this way too. There is plenty of stomach acid to activate it. That is not why it is activated externally. The reason is the speed of activation. If you do not activate it initially the level builds up slowly over an extended period of time, and reaches a rather low peak. This might be insufficient to kill what you are taking it for. By external activation, the build up is rapid, the peak high, and the overall duration rather short. Chemically here is what happens: Sodium chlorite reacts with acid and produces chlorus acid. Chlorus acid breaks down at a rate proportional to its concentration to chlorine dioxide. That is, if it is concentrated in a teaspoon of liquid, most of it will convert in the next 5 or so minutes. If it is in a dilute solution, such as 8 oz of water, or stomach acid, the rate is much slower, something like a couple of hours. Comparing the blood concentration of chlorine dioxide between these two for the MMS you will see a sudden rise to a significant level, followed very quickly by a drop off to almost nothing. If you take the sodium chlorite directly the build up in the blood will be over an hour, and it will stay at the peak for several hours, but the peak will be much smaller than the maximum with the MMS. The difference is like comparing putting 70% alcohol on an infection for a minute, or a dilute solution of .1% alcohol on it for several hours. It is quite likely that the latter would not have any affect at all.. Marshall I just find the 5% a much safer, easier to handle method, especially for those that seem to be sensitive to the AMMS. The ones that don't do well on that have much better luck on the 5%. Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ Something does not compute about this. Hubble's protocol has one drink a solution with no more than about 4/1000% of sodium chlorite in it. Whether one starts with 5% or 28% solution before diluting it should make no difference. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpederson's silver
His stuff may be fine. I don't know, and have no need to know. I have found in the past that I trust the Coyote's observations. Jim On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net wrote: Okay, Jim, Ode, now that you have weighed in with intuition and Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS, how about some hard science that might actually help unenlightened laymen? Leo -- - Original Message - *From:* Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:50 PM *Subject:* Re: CSpederson's silver A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was offered Strange. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to look like chickens. Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS. Ode At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. Gordon Pederson at http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/ http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/ ? Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digrest
As a tax paying business, they have to keep all receipts for 3 years. Selling online, email addresses are just part of those receipts. They probably don't have a list per sey. All that could just be deleted if we had The Fair Tax There's little question that MMS is pretty darn toxic dangerous stuff, however useful it may be. If people didn't whine to somebody every time they made an ignorant error and others didn't lie a bunch when selling things, we wouldn't need the FDA to push us all around in a stroller. But then, babies wouldn't be able to cry when the stroller doesn't go where they want. Just can't be free, safe and stupid all at the same time, I guess. ..so now...you'll have to use your own noggin to get MMS. and if you do..it'll be a LOT cheaper. Sodium Chlorite is not a controlled substance. Going-around-the-system and Informed Consent are the same thing...informed or not. No one has said you can't be free and stupidit just ain't safe with no one to blame or sue if you screw it up and have to recall your *unprotected* self. Freedom means..if you shoot yourself in the foot, you can't make somebody else hobble around on it. And if you paint a target on that foot and wave it aroundit just might get shot up by some huckster and you STILL have to hobble around on it. Using Patent Medicine requires research, caution and some brains. If we would just let stupid be what it is, there would be no Drug Cartels taking over Mexico and Arizona. it's self regulating. MOST people that use those drugs aren't stupid enough for them to become a problem. Just because you can and it's cheap, doesn't mean it ain't dangerous or you should throw caution to the wind. Welcome to the Tyranny of the Majority idiot protection rule. Somebody else must be the idiotGet em boys [Gee, why am I in jail? ] If we weren't the children our hired nannies say we are, Truth in Advertising would be enough. 99% Pure Cocaine ...it is what it is and does what it does. [Use it more than two or three days a week other than topically and yer an IDIOT without a nose or a futureOK? ] And there's a REASON you have a toothache that numbing the pain probably won't help, but thanks to dummies that believe laws can make them smart, I can't dull the pain till I can GET that help in a day or two. ...unless I Go-around-the-system...and the jailer fixes it on YOUR dime in the Emergency Room and YOU feed me for a year. On that note. Dentists often use MMS. But you have to pay them a fortune to do it...also paying several other layers of protectionjust to take the blame if it goes wrong. Two cents becomes $50 in a heart beat of If,or else ..pay up. When you can smuggle in a drug for 1/3rd what it costs here, that was made IN the USA and exported ...what does that say about US ? It says that WELL OVER 2/3rds of that cost is protection against being blamed and sued. Smugglers ain't cheap either...but then, they don't pay the FDA or the DEA or a huge twisted system to ENFORCE you can't be ignorant. Without them, junkies could kill themselves so cheap they wouldn't have to steal to do it...you don't pay to prevent or prosecute or incarcerate what doesn't happen..right? ..and a lot fewer junkies around. And not just because they succeeded. BEING your OWN stupid, actually does make you smarter. [ Smarts, don't it !? ] I'm stopped here for a reason. Go around idiot..go around...find yer OWN danged reason if you don't like mine [wink] Caution To err on the side of the washed out bridge that you're on. Risk Assessment If the trajectory ain't likely, don't make the leapunless there's fire on your ass. Hope for change ain't worth a dime of motion. Desperation always gets something done. And the FDA won't be in your way. The only time I thought climbing a cliff was a good idea was when there was a mountain lion at the bottom of it with me. ..better smashed supper than live supper and might make it to the top without the teeth. [ Obviously, I did. ] Waiting for Animal Control to keep you safe or sued? Call a pooper scooper. 'Course...the loin may have been lying through his teeth about how hungry he was...the cliff looked like a better bet than hanging around to ask permission to stay alive from an animal that purrs that loud, so happy to see me. BTW At the top of that cliff I found a hunting camp the hunters lost..complete with cans of food and a stove to cook it on and a somewhat raggedy bear clawed tent to sleep in. No one had been there in at least a year. Maybe they went DOWN the cliff? [no rusty rifles or bows, dang it...coulda been a Food Loin ] Ode At 09:09 AM 8/17/2010 -0700, you wrote: Thank you Dee and others for replying to my question on distillers. Yes, i got a recall letter. I am pretty annoyed that they keep my email address/info even if i just purchased one 4 oz bottle of liquid MMS. I wonder if they gave the
Re: CSpederson's silver
Let's just say it's a mess of indistinct direct contradictions saying his stuff makes sense because he threw everything else in a bucket and shook it it up. That's nonsense, therefore, this is OHjust believe it BECAUSE you don't understand. If it has a charge, it's ionic. If it has mass and takes up space, it's technically a particle, so elemental ions, ionic molecules and uncharged molecules and atoms are particles and particles can be called either one but not both for the same particle. It's either ionic or it isn't. If it's suspended rather than dissolved, it's a colloid. So far as I know, ions can only exist in solution or as a plasma. Sol is short for solution. I think his twisted logic is that Ag2O is a metallic silver atom [colloid] bonded to an unbalanced O2 molecule with a charge. [ion]..one electron being shared with the silver ion to make it metallic and forming the bond. Were they not bonded, he would be correct but it would be two distinct particles...not both at the same time. The same could be said, equally incorrectly, of the OH [-] anion ...ionic molecule. I think he's trying to claim that only elemental ions are ions and ionic molecules are not and are therefore a colloid, but both are the same particle as a molecule and are therefore both ionic and colloidal as a sol--ution. But dissolved solutions aren't colloidal suspensions, although you can have both in the same container if they are distinct particles...but they aren't. IOW1+3=12 and 12+3 =14 because 32+44 isn't 5the statement as a whole is true because all the elements are truly false and if you can't see that commonality you can't deduce crap. [nearly as well as I can] Believers..never complain or return their products, for to do so would be to admit being gullible and the faithful cannot be gullible... or they aren't faithful. [Two coins with the same single side flipping around and around] Don't believe it, don't buy it. [go away..it's not you I'm interested in ] Believe and you're hooked into the cult of no returns and validation of faith by recruitment of more believers.a perfect self perpetuating sale. That's called Phishing these days. If the stuff actually works despite all the bullshitthat's OK...but that's not the point. Ode At 06:37 PM 8/17/2010 -0700, you wrote: Ode: So, basically, Petersen's claim that his product is neither an ionic nor colloidal form of silver - or a mix of the two, is without merit and doesn't hold up to science...right? John --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:50 PM A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was offered Strange. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to look like chickens. Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS. Ode At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. Gordon Pederson at http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/? Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdrug companies accused of conning the public
Current incentives for research produce a few that substantially improve patients' chances of getting better or avoiding death but a large number of barely innovative drugs each year. These new drugs of little benefit consume about four-fifths of all drug costs. The incentives and institutional practices around testing and regulatory review predictably result in approvals being based on trials so biased and poorly run that no one knows how much better or worse new drugs are. ## When the incentive to invent new drugs comes from Patents expiring, the FDA doesn't have the budget to do it's own testing and must rely on salesmen to do it and 3 fifths of costs are in self defence of lawsuits from 1/1000th of the users that had a bad experience and no two people are the sameit's all little wonder that the situation is what it is, insisting on absolutes when NONE exist. How much does it cost to pay for the impossible ? Ebay has seller/product/service/buyer feedback ratings...very few are 100%, but they ARE useful to make a risk to success assessment of your own. No one can sell what you won't buy...period. One website to collect user data and calculate risks from experience and we all could make an informed independent decision. Doctors would have the incentive to mention an array of possibilities to be considered if YOU are the ones making the choices...or he/she never sees you again. If WE took the responsibility for those decisions, costs would go down dramatically. You don't have to defend yourself from a sale you didn't make and the buyer judiciously chose. They keep making new drugs because we keep wanting miracles...and we are quite willing to make someone else pay for them and take the heat when they are what they really are. THEY don't pay when you sue them..WE ALL do. [They don't pay taxes either, they pass the cost to the consumer and cannot do otherwise.] You can't con an honest man If WE are not being honest and realistic, why should they be? Blame puts the power right into the hands of those that YOU say, cares the least. What happened to OUR incentives ? We have a LOT of power we are scared to use...far more than they do. They can only hope that you listen and believe.positive or negativeNO ONE can shut us up. Whoreshippers: Screw the priestsfind God your own damned self. Ask your neighbor if they saw Him go by...track Him down. Ode At 04:41 PM 8/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7950243/Drug-companies-accused-of-conning-the-public.html Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNOMA
List, I read about an affliction called NOMA for the first time today. It's horrendous. See http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/siv-oneall/30800/noma-the-face-of- poverty I wonder whether EIS would help the poor people afflicted with this deadly disease. A company called SOTA Instruments made, some years ago, a simple 9V device, but discontinued it. There was bulk pricing for sale in developing countries, but the device was still too costly for widespread distribution. A very cheap device that would make serviceable silver salts in any water -- even contaminated water -- might be a Godsend to NOMA victims. One with an unbreakable solar cell power source instead of a battery would be ideal. Maybe Humble's MMS is another possible treatment, but I have very limited knowledge of it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #686
Thank you Janet and Gayla for your kind replies. Hubby and I experienced something unusual with CS. We used it to disinfect our raw vegetables and used stainless steel big bowl. We put veggies there and added tap water to cover veggies and the poured out some cs maybe 1/4-1/2 cup. We left it there for a few minutes, when we came back to throw away the water with cs we noticed that our stainless steel bowl has heated up. Now we don't use metal with CS anymore, we use ceramic. Melly --- On Sun, 8/15/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #686 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 6:36 AM
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #686
[...stainless steel bowl has heated up]
In a similar theme, I threw a question out there some time ago regarding the
possibility/feasability/credibility of the action of ions converting to
particle clusters over time til a point of stabilization is reached, if those
ionic collisions create some miniscule temperature variation in the water. Got
no reply, so can only assume nobody knows.
I find it strange that I can have two {or more} solutions in storage, produced
at different times, using same production methods/practices, solutions stored
in identical storage vessels, in the same storage facility, using the same
testing equipment...and notice differing water temperatures in each. Could be
coincidence, but I find it rather odd considering all things are equal. Could
it be that these minute 'ionic collisions?' are producing an equally minute
temperature variation of the water, and possibly telling me that no two
solutions are identical as they go through that stabilizing process?
N.
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:22:59 -0700
From: tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #686
Thank you Janet and Gayla for your kind replies.
Hubby and I experienced something unusual with CS. We used it to disinfect our
raw vegetables and used stainless steel big bowl. We put veggies there and
added tap water to cover veggies and the poured out some cs maybe 1/4-1/2 cup.
We left it there for a few minutes, when we came back to throw away the water
with cs we noticed that our stainless steel bowl has heated up. Now we don't
use metal with CS anymore, we use ceramic.
Melly
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silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #686
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 6:36 AM
CSPeripheral Neuropathy
Someone on another list told me this after about three months of trying it: I also wanted to thank you for recommending the Super-R Lipoic Acid for the pain on the bottom of my feet. I've been taking it since February and though I'm not 100% better, there is a remarkable difference. No doctor has been able to suggest anything that has come close to helping as much as this has. Sol, I can't remember if you said you've tried ALA or R lipoic acid. I've been traveling for two months in the western part of the US, so have gotten behind and still have over 200 messages to read to catch up. We went right past your neck of the woods, I think.through Rock Springs and Rawlins. Quite different than last time I saw them during a blizzard in winter. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
