CS>Magnets

2011-12-20 Thread Melly Bag
Thank you Renee and PT for your advice.
 
Again, i will repeat what i have read about pulsers.  If the Hz is not high 
enough, it can even make the cancer grow.  From what i understand the good 
Hz is 30,000+.  Very expensive though.
 
Melly

CS>another magnetic teacher

2011-12-20 Thread PTFerrance
Those interested in the application of magnets might also want to look at
Michael Tierra's book on the subject.  It used to be free on the web at one
time.

PT



Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread slickpicker
And what Kathy did was (presumably) in conflict with those instructions?

Terry

 jaxi  wrote: 
> It relates to the polarities on the body.  Peter sends you a picture
> showing what parts of the body are "positive" and what parts are "negative"
> and explains where to put the magnets based on where the pain is or what
> you are treating.
> 
> Jaxi
> 
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:14 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand this statement by Kathy; hopefully I will once I
> > receive the kit:
> >
> > "...I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative side down, even tho
> > for the foot  with the problem was positive."
> >
> >
> >
> >  "gaiac...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> > > Yes, sometimes you just want the pain to stop.  Once it stops then you
> > can
> > > redo the magnets for better healing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And that's exactly why I purchased 2 wellness kits when they were on sale
> > > last year--I'm always loaning them out.  Sometimes it's hard to get them
> > > back!!  This way I have my own full kit that we don't loan out so that
> > if we
> > > need it--it's here.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Samala,
> > >
> > > Renee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---Original Message---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it.
> > When I tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was
> > negative side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive.
> > This morning I just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in
> > worse pain than me after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order
> > some more pronto.
> >
> >
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Re: magnetic pulser, was Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
PEMF and magnetic mattresses are two other magnetic applications.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM, sol  wrote:

> Renee,
>  I really would appreciate any info you can find for me re magnetic pulser
> use instead of taped on magnets. I cannot use tape.as I have not found
> one I do not react to. I did have magnet therapy from an anesthesiologist,
> but those didn't help much. They were small magnets though, tiny in fact,
> and I could not leave them on very long because i couldn't leave them taped
> on as long as I was suggested to do.
> I DO have a Sota Magnetic Pulser, and have found it helpful, but have not
> experienced the kind of pain relief you are talking about in this thread.
> It helps, but nothing that dramatic. Perhaps I am not using it to its full
> potential.
> thanks,
> sol
>
> gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure exactly the difference.  I did ask Peter once about a device
>> that I THINK was a mag pulser, if I remember correctly.  He told me that
>> they were good, but that the constant use of a regular magnet was better.
>>  You can tape it on your body and wear it 24/7.  But I could ask him again
>> if you want more specifics.
>>  Samala,
>> Renee /---Original Message---/
>>
>>  Where does a magnetic pulser fit into magnetic therapy? Or is magnetic
>> pulser therapy too different?
>> sol
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: magnetic pulser, was Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread sol

Renee,
 I really would appreciate any info you can find for me re magnetic 
pulser use instead of taped on magnets. I cannot use tape.as I have 
not found one I do not react to. I did have magnet therapy from an 
anesthesiologist, but those didn't help much. They were small magnets 
though, tiny in fact, and I could not leave them on very long because i 
couldn't leave them taped on as long as I was suggested to do.
I DO have a Sota Magnetic Pulser, and have found it helpful, but have 
not experienced the kind of pain relief you are talking about in this 
thread. It helps, but nothing that dramatic. Perhaps I am not using it 
to its full potential.

thanks,
sol

gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure exactly the difference.  I did ask Peter once about a 
device that I THINK was a mag pulser, if I remember correctly.  He 
told me that they were good, but that the constant use of a regular 
magnet was better.  You can tape it on your body and wear it 24/7.  
But I could ask him again if you want more specifics.
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
/---Original Message---/
 
 
Where does a magnetic pulser fit into magnetic therapy? Or is magnetic

pulser therapy too different?
sol
 
 








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RE: CS>Magnets

2011-12-20 Thread PTFerrance
Hi,

What you need to look for is the surface field strength (gauss) of the
magnets used for healing.  It is the surface that interfaces with the body.


Also, very strong magnets aren't necessarily important.  I have done
profound healing with very weak magnets.  What is important is knowing where
to put them and how long to leave them on.  North pole magnetic are
dispersing and if left on too long can weaken a person's muscles directly
under where they are placed.  It is good to remember that anything strong
enough to help is also strong enough to harm because it is changing the
milieu of the body.

PT

 

From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Magnets

 


Hey Melly.  I'm sure there must be other magnets with the same gauss as
Peter's, but I can't say if they are the same size.  His size (except for
the largest ones) are very convienent to use and 'hide'.  Some magnets with
the same gauss are larger.  Each size of Peter's magnets are a different
strength.

 

It's hard to say though about other magnet's strength/gauss, because I've
read where many dealers will post the gauss that is in the middle of the
magnet (where both poles meet) and while this is the strongest, by the time
the magnetic energy reaches the surface of the magnet, the gauss drops.  So
they should really be posting the surface gauss--which is what Peter does.
But since they don't it makes it hard to compare.

 

But just remember--any strong neodymium will work, if you already have some
on hand.  Don't bother with ceramic magnets--you want the neos, also called
rare earth.

 

Samala,

Renee 

 

 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

 


 

While magnets are available elsewhere,  is the "gauss" the same as those
sold by Peter?

 

How many gauss does the biomagscience magnets have? 

 

Thanks.

 

Melly

 




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Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread jaxi
I bought 2 of the organ kits because they seemed the most cost effective
way of increasing my mag supply ... lol.  I have not done that placement
series yet though because I have the low back and my right shoulder and the
sternum ones in place and then top of the head at night.  I just got some
paper tape so I can try the CVS spot, hoping I don't react to the adhesive
on the tape.  I have enough mags to do the organs as well as what I am
doing but well that is a lot of mags on me all at once ... lol.

And one of the things I LOVE about the CS list is that they don't get too
hung up about tangents.  I have learned TONS from those tangents.  Thank
you Brooks!!

Jaxi

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:21 PM, gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jaxi--have you used the organ enhancing placement?  That's on the
> paper, not in the book, because it was discovered after the book was
> published.  Because we are energetic beings, and magnetic energy is in our
> cells, if we are 'low' on this energy in the organs, nothing we do will be
> a permanent cure.
>
> So there is a placement over the liver, spleen, and kidneys that will
> return and balance this energy in these organs, which then allow our
> supplements, energy devices, etc to be more effective.  I didn't notice a
> lot from the placement when I used it, but boy my DH sure did.  You are
> suppose to wear them 24 hrs a day for 3 days.  My DH felt so good he wanted
> to wear them longer so I asked Peter and he said yes, it was ok.  My DH
> wore them for about a week and felt much better.  Peter says he has one
> doctor that wears them over the organs for 5 days every month just to 'stay
> healthy'.
>
> Since none of this is about CS I think people should either join the
> magnet list or ask me privately about magnets.  I don't want to highjack
> the list.  People that are here for CS may not be interested in magnets.  I
> originally just wanted to let everyone on all the lists I'm on know what a
> great extra protocol magnets are and that the super sale was going on now.
> I didn't mean take over the list.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>
> If it goes like it did for me you'll decide you need more magnets.  LOL I
> took advantage of the 50% off deal to stock up on mags.  I have 12 on me
> right now.  LOL
>
>
<>

Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread jaxi
It relates to the polarities on the body.  Peter sends you a picture
showing what parts of the body are "positive" and what parts are "negative"
and explains where to put the magnets based on where the pain is or what
you are treating.

Jaxi

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:14 PM,  wrote:

> I don't understand this statement by Kathy; hopefully I will once I
> receive the kit:
>
> "...I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative side down, even tho
> for the foot  with the problem was positive."
>
>
>
>  "gaiac...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> > Yes, sometimes you just want the pain to stop.  Once it stops then you
> can
> > redo the magnets for better healing.
> >
> >
> >
> > And that's exactly why I purchased 2 wellness kits when they were on sale
> > last year--I'm always loaning them out.  Sometimes it's hard to get them
> > back!!  This way I have my own full kit that we don't loan out so that
> if we
> > need it--it's here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Samala,
> >
> > Renee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it.
> When I tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was
> negative side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive.
> This morning I just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in
> worse pain than me after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order
> some more pronto.
>
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Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Jaxi--have you used the organ enhancing placement?  That's on the paper, not
in the book, because it was discovered after the book was published. 
Because we are energetic beings, and magnetic energy is in our cells, if we
are 'low' on this energy in the organs, nothing we do will be a permanent
cure.  

So there is a placement over the liver, spleen, and kidneys that will return
and balance this energy in these organs, which then allow our supplements,
energy devices, etc to be more effective.  I didn't notice a lot from the
placement when I used it, but boy my DH sure did.  You are suppose to wear
them 24 hrs a day for 3 days.  My DH felt so good he wanted to wear them
longer so I asked Peter and he said yes, it was ok.  My DH wore them for
about a week and felt much better.  Peter says he has one doctor that wears
them over the organs for 5 days every month just to 'stay healthy'.  

Since none of this is about CS I think people should either join the magnet
list or ask me privately about magnets.  I don't want to highjack the list. 
People that are here for CS may not be interested in magnets.  I originally
just wanted to let everyone on all the lists I'm on know what a great extra
protocol magnets are and that the super sale was going on now.  I didn't
mean take over the list. 

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
If it goes like it did for me you'll decide you need more magnets.  LOL I took 
advantage of the 50% off deal to stock up on mags.  I have 12 on me right now.  
LOL<>

Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread slickpicker
I don't understand this statement by Kathy; hopefully I will once I receive the 
kit:

"...I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative side down, even tho for the 
foot  with the problem was positive."


 
 "gaiac...@gmail.com"  wrote: 
> Yes, sometimes you just want the pain to stop.  Once it stops then you can
> redo the magnets for better healing.
> 
> 
> 
> And that's exactly why I purchased 2 wellness kits when they were on sale
> last year--I'm always loaning them out.  Sometimes it's hard to get them
> back!!  This way I have my own full kit that we don't loan out so that if we
> need it--it's here.
> 
> 
> 
> Samala,
> 
> Renee 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it. When I 
> tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative 
> side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive. This morning 
> I just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me 
> after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto.


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CS>Book on CS

2011-12-20 Thread Kathryn Neff
Does anyone have a good book or information regarding the healing properties of 
CS and the dosage given...I have a Silver-Gen  bought recently and want to make 
the CS here at home.   There is a lot out there, some very technical, and I 
want to have a good guide for the use of CS in a practical way.   Any info 
would be appreciated..Years ago, I have one of the very first that 
Silver-Gen ever made.  I used  it some, but got busy with other things and it 
sat on the shelfthe new one, with it paddle, new silver hookups, the unit 
sitting on a quart jar,  selecting the silver strength and it automatically 
turns off...seems just right for what I want to do at this time.   I make a 
quart at a time and I really like the looks of it.I think it will be a good 
start...Now I need some good  information about the dosages of CS for different 
applications.  

Any advice or relating of your experiences with CS would be appreciated.

Thanks ,  Kathy Neff 

Re: CS>Magnets

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Hey Melly.  I'm sure there must be other magnets with the same gauss as
Peter's, but I can't say if they are the same size.  His size (except for
the largest ones) are very convienent to use and 'hide'.  Some magnets with
the same gauss are larger.  Each size of Peter's magnets are a different
strength.

It's hard to say though about other magnet's strength/gauss, because I've
read where many dealers will post the gauss that is in the middle of the
magnet (where both poles meet) and while this is the strongest, by the time
the magnetic energy reaches the surface of the magnet, the gauss drops.  So
they should really be posting the surface gauss--which is what Peter does. 
But since they don't it makes it hard to compare.

But just remember--any strong neodymium will work, if you already have some
on hand.  Don't bother with ceramic magnets--you want the neos, also called
rare earth.

Samala,
Renee 

 

 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
 
While magnets are available elsewhere,  is the "gauss" the same as those
sold by Peter?
 
How many gauss does the biomagscience magnets have? 
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

 

Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Yes, sometimes you just want the pain to stop.  Once it stops then you can
redo the magnets for better healing.

And that's exactly why I purchased 2 wellness kits when they were on sale
last year--I'm always loaning them out.  Sometimes it's hard to get them
back!!  This way I have my own full kit that we don't loan out so that if we
need it--it's here.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it. When I 
tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative 
side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive. This morning I 
just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me 
after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto.

Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Hi Kathy.  I have zero idea about the chat room.  I own the group but we
have never used it.  I think yahoo just offers it to every group but it's
not something most groups use.  At least I've never been in a group where it
has been used.

People just write their questions for Peter to the whole list--though you
can certainly write him privately via his web site.  He will always answer,
though it may take a day or so because he is very busy.

Otherwise, any comments or general questions are just posted to the group.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Thank you Renee and hello Pat,...I just now joined also.   I see they
have a chat thing on that group, does that work and do people talk. I
clicked on it and it showed me in the chat room.
 

Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread Kathryn Neff
Thank you Renee and hello Pat,...I just now joined also.   I see they have 
a chat thing on that group, does that work and do people talk. I clicked on it 
and it showed me in the chat room.

Kathy Neff 

From: Pat Lawrie 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 7:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Another way to heal

Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it. When I 
tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative 
side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive. This morning I 
just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me 
after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto.
Pat

  
From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Another way to heal

  If you use the stronger ones you could put it outside your shoe--though 
you must wrap it good enough that it doesn't fall off.  You could get the book 
out and look up the method that is recommended for toes.  It will depend on 
which foot it is on as to whether you use the positive or negative side of the 
magnets.

  The group is here:  
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magnetictherapytoday/
  Peter belongs to the group and will answer any questions you have about 
magnets and healing with them.  

  This 50% off sale is great, though members of the group get 25% off all 
the time with a special code.  So if someone missed the holiday sales there's 
still a way to save some money.

  Samala,
  Renee. 




  ---Original Message---

  What is the link to the magnet  group please?  

 


Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread Pat Lawrie
Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it. When I 
tried checking  in the book, I chose the "pain" protocol, which was negative 
side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive. This morning I 
just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me 
after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto.

Pat
  


 From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Another way to heal
  
 
If you use the stronger ones you could put it outside your shoe--though you 
must wrap it good enough that it doesn't fall off.  You could get the book out 
and look up the method that is recommended for toes.  It will depend on which 
foot it is on as to whether you use the positive or negative side of the 
magnets. 

The group is here:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magnetictherapytoday/ 
Peter belongs to the group and will answer any questions you have about 
magnets and healing with them.   

This 50% off sale is great, though members of the group get 25% off all the 
time with a special code.  So if someone missed the holiday sales there's still 
a way to save some money. 

Samala, 
Renee.  

 



---Original Message--- 
  
What is the link to the magnet  group please?  

CS>Magnets

2011-12-20 Thread Melly Bag
Renee,
 
While magnets are available elsewhere,  is the "gauss" the same as those sold 
by Peter?
 
How many gauss does the biomagscience magnets have? 
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

Re: CS>nutrasilver experience

2011-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
That is from ABL.  I tried it under the label ASAP 30 PPM.  Their patent
claims the nanoparticles are coated in Ag4O4 incidentally as a result of
the process.  I would not know how to verify the claim though.  The product
did not help me though.

Ag4O4 perhaps has different arrangements also?

Ag4O4 as an isolated chemical in higher amounts would be a completely
different product.  People mention it from time to time, and I would be
interested in trying it if someone can guide me how to do so (i.e. how to
obtain it and take it)

David

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:

> **
>
> David,
>
> ** **
>
>Have you tried silver tetroxide?  I’ve found this form of silver to
> be very effective for infections.  It’s made by a company called Guardian
> and they claim it is only 10ppm but it works quite well. Cleared a food
> poisoning I had in about 4 or 5 hours.
>
> ** **
>
> Bob
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:53 PM
> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
> *Subject:* CS>nutrasilver experience
>
> ** **
>
> So I got a bottle.  Though it says nothing clear on the paperwork, it is
> claimed nanoparticles of silver from 2 to 20nm @ 3600PPM
>
> ** **
>
> Physical observations:
>
> -dark brown liquid.
>
> -When added to water, it has a tendency to sink, indicating the particles
> are clumped together
>
> - I punctured the top of the bottle with a diaper pin.  The instructions
> were to do so with a toothpick.  Then drops come out of this hole.  I
> estimate I am only getting 300 to 400 drops out of this bottle.  There is a
> claimed 600 per bottle (which is the standard drop count for 1 fl. oz.).  I
> don't think using a toothpick would have yielded 600 drops.
>
> ** **
>
> Results:
>
> 60 drops gives me some intestinal herx, and couple days of taking 60 drops
> once a day, I notice some very slight overall health improvements.  No
> systemic herx however.  Could provide some more incremental improvement for
> me due to killing bartonella in the intestines, but it will not be able to
> handle the systemic problem.
>
> ** **
>
> It is noteworthy that I get any results at all, as at present, no other
> silver product does so for me.  Though EIS does prevent me from backsliding
> systemically.  
>
> ** **
>
> David
>


Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread jaxi
If it goes like it did for me you'll decide you need more magnets.  LOL I
took advantage of the 50% off deal to stock up on mags.  I have 12 on me
right now.  LOL

Jaxi

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Kathryn Neff  wrote:

>   Hello Renee:   Thank you for all you thoughts and experience with
> magnets...I have ordered the full wellness kit and it is on its
> way..Will let you know how it goes.
>
> Kathy Neff
>
>  *From:* gaiac...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:55 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>Another way to heal
>
>Although I love CS and have two CS machines and always keep a gallon
> on hand for emergencies--I also rely on a few other tried and true healing
> modalities.  Magnets are something I always reach for when something
> happens.
>
> I will rinse out a wound with CS, patch it up and place magnets either on
> or near it so that 1) there's no pain and 2) it heals a lot faster.  If I
> get something like a sprain or a break, I'd be using magnets.  In fact, I
> recently sliced my finger open with a box cutter.  Rinsed with CS and
> cayenne Tincture (because it kept bleeding), bandaged it up.  But it hurt
> so I placed a magnet on top and--no more pain.
>
> And a year ago this month I stepped off a rock and sprained my ankle very
> badly--tore all the ligaments right down to my toes.  It hurt so bad I
> couldn't stand up and so crawled into the house and into a chair. I had my
> DH get the magnets which we immediately wrapped onto the ankle.  It took
> the pain away in literally minutes.
>
> For the next 2 days I limped and was sore, but not in pain.  The next 2
> days even the soreness stopped and the limping stopped.  I wound up wearing
> the magnets 24/7 for 7 weeks.  If I took the magnets off the pain would
> return but less so I knew it was healing.  At the end of the 7 weeks my
> ankle was good as new.
>
> I met other people that had also sprained their ankles and had gone to the
> ER.  They either had to wear a boot for 6 to 8 weeks or walk with crutches
> for that time.  I did neither.  I was able to wear my regular shoes and
> continue on with my holiday celebrations.
>
> So I think everyone should have a set of good strong neo magnets in their
> homes.  I did a lot of research a few years ago and decided that single
> pole magnets were my choice rather than products like Nikken that use both
> poles at the same time.  Single pole has a long history of tests and
> usage.  In my research I came across Peter Kulish's site at
> www.biomagscience.net   after reading a lot of that site I decided that I
> wanted his magnets and book.
>
> The Japanese have used magnets for healing for centuries, yet they chose
> HIS book to teach their doctors about using magnets for health!  I own
> numerous books on magnets and health but I consider (along with the
> Japanese!) his to be the best.
>
> He has many small kits, but I would suggest that anyone interested in
> having magnets get his  full wellness kit.  It has the whole series of
> magnets (enough for healing several spots on the body at the same time), 2
> water magnets (my cats and dogs doubled their intake of water when I
> started using magnetized water for them) his book, a bottle of oxygen drops
> and a reusable self-stick bandage for holding the magnets on.  If you
> already have good magnets, at least get his book because it will tell you
> placement, duration and which pole to use where--and it's very inexpensive.
>
> I actually have purchased TWO of his full wellness kits so that I have a
> set here to use plus a set to loan out.
>
> Right now Peter is offering a 50% off sale on all kits and a 25% off on
> the 3 supplements that he carries.  I have no financial interest in this at
> all--it's just something I believe in as strongly as I believe in CS.
>
> If you go to his site and decide to purchase, all you have to do is put
> 50% in the code area on the order page for the kits and put 25%S in the
> code for any supplements.  This sale is good till Dec 31st.
>
> He also has a 50% off sale on magnetic kits for fuel savings for both cars
> and for home heating systems that use either propane or natural gas.
> There's nothing for savings if you have electricity like I do, otherwise
> I'd have one of those kits too.  In fact, I do have a kit for my car which
> is being put on this weekend.
>
> If you wish for the code and link to the fuel savings email me at gaiacita
> @ gmail.com and I'll send it to you.  Since it's not about healing I
> didn't want to put it on this list, whereas the wellness kits ARE for
> healing.
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>


RE: CS>nutrasilver experience

2011-12-20 Thread Bob Banever
David,

 

   Have you tried silver tetroxide?  I've found this form of silver to
be very effective for infections.  It's made by a company called Guardian
and they claim it is only 10ppm but it works quite well. Cleared a food
poisoning I had in about 4 or 5 hours.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>nutrasilver experience

 

So I got a bottle.  Though it says nothing clear on the paperwork, it is
claimed nanoparticles of silver from 2 to 20nm @ 3600PPM

 

Physical observations:

-dark brown liquid.

-When added to water, it has a tendency to sink, indicating the particles
are clumped together

- I punctured the top of the bottle with a diaper pin.  The instructions
were to do so with a toothpick.  Then drops come out of this hole.  I
estimate I am only getting 300 to 400 drops out of this bottle.  There is a
claimed 600 per bottle (which is the standard drop count for 1 fl. oz.).  I
don't think using a toothpick would have yielded 600 drops.

 

Results:

60 drops gives me some intestinal herx, and couple days of taking 60 drops
once a day, I notice some very slight overall health improvements.  No
systemic herx however.  Could provide some more incremental improvement for
me due to killing bartonella in the intestines, but it will not be able to
handle the systemic problem.

 

It is noteworthy that I get any results at all, as at present, no other
silver product does so for me.  Though EIS does prevent me from backsliding
systemically.  

 

David



Re: CS>New Member

2011-12-20 Thread Joyce Miller
Thanks, Mary Ann. I am looking forward to learning a lot about what I
have been taking for granted.

Joyce

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:06 PM, MaryAnn Helland
 wrote:
> Welcome Joyce!  Glad to have you here.
> Mary Ann
>
> 
> From: Joyce Miller 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 3:11:27 PM
> Subject: CS>New Member
>
> Just to introduce myself: I am Joyce Miller and we use a lot of CS
> My husband, Gene Wolfe, is a member of this list, and he keeps us in CS
> Decided that I want to know more about Colloidal Silver
>
> Thank you for having me on the list,
>
> Joyce Miller
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Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread Kathryn Neff
Hello Renee:   Thank you for all you thoughts and experience with 
magnets...I have ordered the full wellness kit and it is on its 
way..Will let you know how it goes.

Kathy Neff 

From: gaiac...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Another way to heal

  Although I love CS and have two CS machines and always keep a gallon on 
hand for emergencies--I also rely on a few other tried and true healing 
modalities.  Magnets are something I always reach for when something happens.

  I will rinse out a wound with CS, patch it up and place magnets either on 
or near it so that 1) there's no pain and 2) it heals a lot faster.  If I get 
something like a sprain or a break, I'd be using magnets.  In fact, I recently 
sliced my finger open with a box cutter.  Rinsed with CS and cayenne Tincture 
(because it kept bleeding), bandaged it up.  But it hurt so I placed a magnet 
on top and--no more pain.

  And a year ago this month I stepped off a rock and sprained my ankle very 
badly--tore all the ligaments right down to my toes.  It hurt so bad I couldn't 
stand up and so crawled into the house and into a chair. I had my DH get the 
magnets which we immediately wrapped onto the ankle.  It took the pain away in 
literally minutes.  

  For the next 2 days I limped and was sore, but not in pain.  The next 2 
days even the soreness stopped and the limping stopped.  I wound up wearing the 
magnets 24/7 for 7 weeks.  If I took the magnets off the pain would return but 
less so I knew it was healing.  At the end of the 7 weeks my ankle was good as 
new. 

  I met other people that had also sprained their ankles and had gone to 
the ER.  They either had to wear a boot for 6 to 8 weeks or walk with crutches 
for that time.  I did neither.  I was able to wear my regular shoes and 
continue on with my holiday celebrations.  

  So I think everyone should have a set of good strong neo magnets in their 
homes.  I did a lot of research a few years ago and decided that single pole 
magnets were my choice rather than products like Nikken that use both poles at 
the same time.  Single pole has a long history of tests and usage.  In my 
research I came across Peter Kulish's site at
  www.biomagscience.net   after reading a lot of that site I decided that I 
wanted his magnets and book.

  The Japanese have used magnets for healing for centuries, yet they chose 
HIS book to teach their doctors about using magnets for health!  I own numerous 
books on magnets and health but I consider (along with the Japanese!) his to be 
the best.

  He has many small kits, but I would suggest that anyone interested in 
having magnets get his  full wellness kit.  It has the whole series of magnets 
(enough for healing several spots on the body at the same time), 2 water 
magnets (my cats and dogs doubled their intake of water when I started using 
magnetized water for them) his book, a bottle of oxygen drops and a reusable 
self-stick bandage for holding the magnets on.  If you already have good 
magnets, at least get his book because it will tell you placement, duration and 
which pole to use where--and it's very inexpensive.

  I actually have purchased TWO of his full wellness kits so that I have a 
set here to use plus a set to loan out. 

  Right now Peter is offering a 50% off sale on all kits and a 25% off on 
the 3 supplements that he carries.  I have no financial interest in this at 
all--it's just something I believe in as strongly as I believe in CS.

  If you go to his site and decide to purchase, all you have to do is put 
50% in the code area on the order page for the kits and put 25%S in the code 
for any supplements.  This sale is good till Dec 31st.

  He also has a 50% off sale on magnetic kits for fuel savings for both 
cars and for home heating systems that use either propane or natural gas.  
There's nothing for savings if you have electricity like I do, otherwise I'd 
have one of those kits too.  In fact, I do have a kit for my car which is being 
put on this weekend.

  If you wish for the code and link to the fuel savings email me at 
gaiacita @ gmail.com and I'll send it to you.  Since it's not about healing I 
didn't want to put it on this list, whereas the wellness kits ARE for healing.

  Hope this helps someone.  

  Samala,
  Renee 

 


CS>nutrasilver experience

2011-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
So I got a bottle.  Though it says nothing clear on the paperwork, it is
claimed nanoparticles of silver from 2 to 20nm @ 3600PPM

Physical observations:
-dark brown liquid.
-When added to water, it has a tendency to sink, indicating the particles
are clumped together
- I punctured the top of the bottle with a diaper pin.  The instructions
were to do so with a toothpick.  Then drops come out of this hole.  I
estimate I am only getting 300 to 400 drops out of this bottle.  There is a
claimed 600 per bottle (which is the standard drop count for 1 fl. oz.).  I
don't think using a toothpick would have yielded 600 drops.

Results:
60 drops gives me some intestinal herx, and couple days of taking 60 drops
once a day, I notice some very slight overall health improvements.  No
systemic herx however.  Could provide some more incremental improvement for
me due to killing bartonella in the intestines, but it will not be able to
handle the systemic problem.

It is noteworthy that I get any results at all, as at present, no other
silver product does so for me.  Though EIS does prevent me from backsliding
systemically.

David


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Huh--that's a great idea.  Thanks!  After the holidays I can give it a try.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Use a digital camera to photograph each page, and upload the resulting *.jpgs. 
The job will be done in no time at all and you can reuse your SDcard again. 
There is atleast one free program (for WIN_XP & newer WINs)to convert those 
*.jpgs to *.pdf Certainly faster than scanning and cheaper than photocopying.

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
Use a digital camera to photograph each page, and upload the resulting *.jpgs. 
The job will be done in no time at all and you can reuse your SDcard again. 
There is atleast one free program (for WIN_XP & newer WINs)to convert those 
*.jpgs to *.pdf Certainly faster than scanning and cheaper than photocopying.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> I don't think I could scan it.  There are a LOT of pages, 
> all 8x10.  I 
> forget how much it cost me to have the 2 books copied.  
> When I find them I
> ll let you know as I can go down and have it priced out, but 
> really, though
> he has a lot of other good info in there, most of what he says 
> is in Peter's
> book, only Peter's is more detailed on the placements.
> 
> 
> 
> Also, just so you know, it's very religious slanted.
> 
> 
> 
> Samala,
> 
> Renee 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
>  
> 
> If you find it do you think it could be scanned into a 
> PDF?  Either that or
> photcopied and I could paypal you to cover copying and mailing??
> 
>  


Re: CS>New Member

2011-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Welcome Joyce!  Glad to have you here.
Mary Ann





From: Joyce Miller 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 3:11:27 PM
Subject: CS>New Member

Just to introduce myself: I am Joyce Miller and we use a lot of CS
My husband, Gene Wolfe, is a member of this list, and he keeps us in CS
Decided that I want to know more about Colloidal Silver

Thank you for having me on the list,

Joyce Miller

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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
I don't think I could scan it.  There are a LOT of pages, all 8x10.  I 
forget how much it cost me to have the 2 books copied.  When I find them I
ll let you know as I can go down and have it priced out, but really, though
he has a lot of other good info in there, most of what he says is in Peter's
book, only Peter's is more detailed on the placements.

Also, just so you know, it's very religious slanted.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
If you find it do you think it could be scanned into a PDF?  Either that or
photcopied and I could paypal you to cover copying and mailing??
 

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Yes, but some people may already have magnets, or want to go to other places
on line to get magnets at a better price, so that's why I suggest at least
getting the book.  If you have the book and ANY brand strong magnets, you
are set.  But for those without magnets then the kits are a great way to go.
 They are assured of getting good strong magnets, coated so they don't chip,
and marked so it's very simple to see which side to use.  There's even
raised letters on them so that you can tell which side you have facing your
skin when you are putting them on your back and can't see the colors.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Renee -- isn't his book included in the Wellness Kit?

CS>New Member

2011-12-20 Thread Joyce Miller
Just to introduce myself: I am Joyce Miller and we use a lot of CS
My husband, Gene Wolfe, is a member of this list, and he keeps us in CS
Decided that I want to know more about Colloidal Silver

Thank you for having me on the list,

Joyce Miller

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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thanks Jaxi!
MA





From: jaxi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 2:44:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387


Yes it is.  He also includes some inserts of additional pictures and info.  

Jaxi


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM, MaryAnn Helland  
wrote:

Renee -- isn't his book included in the Wellness Kit?
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 12:25:10 PM
>Subject: RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387
>
>
>
>Yes, there are several people that were masters at magnets--Peter studied 
>under 
>most of them.  There are some good books out there.  I have them.  I even 
>photo 
>copied a book by an old man that went around teaching magnetic healing and 
>selling super strong magnets.  He had a lot of the same info Peter has, only 
>not 
>so much about the placements.  My friend took a class from him many years 
>ago.  
>I have searched and searched on line but that gentleman has passed away and no 
>one now seems to have his material, so I copied my friend's.  My friend bought 
>a 
>set of his large super magnets and I can barely get them apart!  My friend 
>says 
>when he puts them on pain just vanishes.  
>
>
>Anyway--there are basic ways to use magnets for healing, but of all the books 
>I 
>have, Peter's is the most explicit and has the most information about 
>placement 
>for certain problems.  His book is inexpensive--only $15 full price and I 
>believe it can be purchased on sale now at the 50% off.  
>
>
>The thing with Peter's information is that he's had thousands of people using 
>and reporting on the magnets for health.  There are lots of testimonials on 
>his 
>site, and he works closely with many doctors.  Few other magnetic authors have 
>that experience.  Many of the books found in book stores are simply from 
>people 
>that gathered information about magnets and put it in a book, without them 
>actually having the experience of clinical practice.
>
>Samala,
>Renee 
>
>
>
>
>
>---Original Message---
>
>I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him by 
>many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide you.
>


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread jaxi
Yes it is.  He also includes some inserts of additional pictures and info.

Jaxi

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

>  Renee -- isn't his book included in the Wellness Kit?
> MA
>
>  --
> *From:* "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tue, December 20, 2011 12:25:10 PM
> *Subject:* RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387
>
>Yes, there are several people that were masters at magnets--Peter
> studied under most of them.  There are some good books out there.  I have
> them.  I even photo copied a book by an old man that went around teaching
> magnetic healing and selling super strong magnets.  He had a lot of the
> same info Peter has, only not so much about the placements.  My friend took
> a class from him many years ago.  I have searched and searched on line but
> that gentleman has passed away and no one now seems to have his material,
> so I copied my friend's.  My friend bought a set of his large super magnets
> and I can barely get them apart!  My friend says when he puts them on pain
> just vanishes.
>
> Anyway--there are basic ways to use magnets for healing, but of all the
> books I have, Peter's is the most explicit and has the most information
> about placement for certain problems.  His book is inexpensive--only $15
> full price and I believe it can be purchased on sale now at the 50% off.
>
> The thing with Peter's information is that he's had thousands of people
> using and reporting on the magnets for health.  There are lots of
> testimonials on his site, and he works closely with many doctors.  Few
> other magnetic authors have that experience.  Many of the books found in
> book stores are simply from people that gathered information about magnets
> and put it in a book, without them actually having the experience of
> clinical practice.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
> I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him
> by many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide
> you.
>
>


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Renee -- isn't his book included in the Wellness Kit?
MA





From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 12:25:10 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387


Yes, there are several people that were masters at magnets--Peter studied under 
most of them.  There are some good books out there.  I have them.  I even photo 
copied a book by an old man that went around teaching magnetic healing and 
selling super strong magnets.  He had a lot of the same info Peter has, only 
not 
so much about the placements.  My friend took a class from him many years ago.  
I have searched and searched on line but that gentleman has passed away and no 
one now seems to have his material, so I copied my friend's.  My friend bought 
a 
set of his large super magnets and I can barely get them apart!  My friend says 
when he puts them on pain just vanishes.  


Anyway--there are basic ways to use magnets for healing, but of all the books I 
have, Peter's is the most explicit and has the most information about placement 
for certain problems.  His book is inexpensive--only $15 full price and I 
believe it can be purchased on sale now at the 50% off.  


The thing with Peter's information is that he's had thousands of people using 
and reporting on the magnets for health.  There are lots of testimonials on his 
site, and he works closely with many doctors.  Few other magnetic authors have 
that experience.  Many of the books found in book stores are simply from people 
that gathered information about magnets and put it in a book, without them 
actually having the experience of clinical practice.

Samala,
Renee 





---Original Message---

I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him by 
many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide you.

Re: magnetic pulser, was Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
I'm not sure exactly the difference.  I did ask Peter once about a device
that I THINK was a mag pulser, if I remember correctly.  He told me that
they were good, but that the constant use of a regular magnet was better. 
You can tape it on your body and wear it 24/7.  But I could ask him again if
you want more specifics.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Where does a magnetic pulser fit into magnetic therapy? Or is magnetic
pulser therapy too different?
sol
 
 

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread jaxi
If you find it do you think it could be scanned into a PDF?  Either that or
photcopied and I could paypal you to cover copying and mailing??

Jaxi

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM, gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Doug. I think you must be referring to the one I copied?  I've
> already listed Peter's book which is Conquering Pain The Art of Healing
> with Biomagnetism by Peter Kulish.  The one I copied is -- well shoot, I'm
> going to have to look for it.  I thought it was with my magnet set but
> we've remodeled and I still have a couple hundred books that have not been
> put on shelves.  It has to be in a box someplace here.  But when I find it,
> if that's the one you are interested in, I'll let you know.
>
> But it's self published so I don't think you'd be able to find it
> anywhere, unless someone that he sold to decided to get rid of theirs.  The
> old guy started a church out in CA, I think it was.  The book (there are
> actually 2) mentions the name of the church, the organization he started
> and that he was also going to do some videos on the magnets and other
> methods of healing.  I searched and search, couldn't find him anywhere.  I
> wrote to a couple places in the town where the church was suppose to
> be--the better biz bureau and the group of churches, and no one knew
> anything about him or his group.  Too bad.  He actually had a lot of good
> material.  My friend met him about 10 years ago and said he was in his 80's
> then.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>
> What's the title and author of that magnet book you speak?
>
> doug
>
>
>


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Hey Doug. I think you must be referring to the one I copied?  I've already
listed Peter's book which is Conquering Pain The Art of Healing with
Biomagnetism by Peter Kulish.  The one I copied is -- well shoot, I'm going
to have to look for it.  I thought it was with my magnet set but we've
remodeled and I still have a couple hundred books that have not been put on
shelves.  It has to be in a box someplace here.  But when I find it, if that
s the one you are interested in, I'll let you know.

But it's self published so I don't think you'd be able to find it anywhere,
unless someone that he sold to decided to get rid of theirs.  The old guy
started a church out in CA, I think it was.  The book (there are actually 2)
mentions the name of the church, the organization he started and that he was
also going to do some videos on the magnets and other methods of healing.  I
searched and search, couldn't find him anywhere.  I wrote to a couple places
in the town where the church was suppose to be--the better biz bureau and
the group of churches, and no one knew anything about him or his group.  Too
bad.  He actually had a lot of good material.  My friend met him about 10
years ago and said he was in his 80's then.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
What's the title and author of that magnet book you speak?
 
doug
 
 

magnetic pulser, was Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread sol
Where does a magnetic pulser fit into magnetic therapy? Or is magnetic 
pulser therapy too different?

sol


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Re: CS>Quinton Marine Plasma

2011-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
I've tried it.  Did not feel anything.  I have chronic lyme related
illness.

I have heard 4 anecdotes of liposomal vitamin C removing tooth pain. Other
people spray DMSO and CS on the tooth, and also nasally.

David



On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Pat  wrote:

>
>
> Have any of you tried Original Quinton Marine Plasma?  Discovered  by
> French physiologist René Quinton in 1897, this
> nutrient-rich  seawater (cold sterilized and processed according to
> pharmaceutical  grades) has been used for over 110 years to restore the
>  bio-terrain.  I just got some from my holistic dentist to ward off what
> might possibly be a sinus infection causing tooth pain.  He said to sniff
> it up, let it linger in the throat, and swallow.  He said it really helps
> one to recover quickly after a difficult exercise session.
>
>
> He asked what I do when I feel a cold coming on.  I said I nebulize with
> colloidal silver.  He said to do that also, then.  He didn't even blink an
> eye or look at me like I'm a bit nutty like most other people do when I
> mention colloidal silver.  So glad I found this dentist!
>
> Pat
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RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Yes, they are very good, too.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Davis & Rawls were some of the original researchers on magnets and have 
specific information about magnet placement also.

RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread PTFerrance
Davis & Rawls were some of the original researchers on magnets and have
specific information about magnet placement also.

PT

 

From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

 


Yes, there are several people that were masters at magnets--Peter studied
under most of them.  There are some good books out there.  I have them.  I
even photo copied a book by an old man that went around teaching magnetic
healing and selling super strong magnets.  He had a lot of the same info
Peter has, only not so much about the placements.  My friend took a class
from him many years ago.  I have searched and searched on line but that
gentleman has passed away and no one now seems to have his material, so I
copied my friend's.  My friend bought a set of his large super magnets and I
can barely get them apart!  My friend says when he puts them on pain just
vanishes.  

 

Anyway--there are basic ways to use magnets for healing, but of all the
books I have, Peter's is the most explicit and has the most information
about placement for certain problems.  His book is inexpensive--only $15
full price and I believe it can be purchased on sale now at the 50% off.  

 

The thing with Peter's information is that he's had thousands of people
using and reporting on the magnets for health.  There are lots of
testimonials on his site, and he works closely with many doctors.  Few other
magnetic authors have that experience.  Many of the books found in book
stores are simply from people that gathered information about magnets and
put it in a book, without them actually having the experience of clinical
practice.

 

Samala,

Renee 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him by
many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide you.

 




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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread polo
Renee,

What's the title and author of that magnet book you speak?

doug


Re: CS>Highly ionic CS.

2011-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
Mike has done stable high 30's at least.  There is something he is doing
that has a lesson in it, I'll say.  I'll be interested to see how high my
ordinary unit can go though.

David

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Alchemysa  wrote:

>
>> From: David AuBuchon 
>> Date: 20 December 2011 12:42:07 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>The Silvercell process?
>>
>>
>> How is the 40PPM measured on the SilverGen?  A built in meter?  Short of
>> getting a batch lab-analyzed, the correctness and relevance of the reading
>> that that meter gives would need to be validated.  The conductance drop
>> over time after the batch is finished would also need to be viewed.  Also
>> visible plateout or fallout.  Also potential contamination sources.
>>
>> David
>>
>
>
>
> Trems was measured with a PWT meter I assume.
> Mike claims that basic gens only make 5 ppm. Thats self-serving BS. He
> creates a lot of straw man arguments to make his process sound more
> impressive than it really is. Just about any gen can make pretty high ppm
> with a little practice and experimentation. 23 ppm (eg Natural
> immunogenics) is typical of the maximum acheivable for a 'stable' batch
> that you can bottle and store, but its not hard to make CS thats
> 'temporarily' highly ionic, and isn't that all you need?  Why worry about
> conductance drop? Just drink the stuff while its fresh and highly ionic.
>
>
> David
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RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Yes, there are several people that were masters at magnets--Peter studied
under most of them.  There are some good books out there.  I have them.  I
even photo copied a book by an old man that went around teaching magnetic
healing and selling super strong magnets.  He had a lot of the same info
Peter has, only not so much about the placements.  My friend took a class
from him many years ago.  I have searched and searched on line but that
gentleman has passed away and no one now seems to have his material, so I
copied my friend's.  My friend bought a set of his large super magnets and I
can barely get them apart!  My friend says when he puts them on pain just
vanishes.  

Anyway--there are basic ways to use magnets for healing, but of all the
books I have, Peter's is the most explicit and has the most information
about placement for certain problems.  His book is inexpensive--only $15
full price and I believe it can be purchased on sale now at the 50% off.  

The thing with Peter's information is that he's had thousands of people
using and reporting on the magnets for health.  There are lots of
testimonials on his site, and he works closely with many doctors.  Few other
magnetic authors have that experience.  Many of the books found in book
stores are simply from people that gathered information about magnets and
put it in a book, without them actually having the experience of clinical
practice.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him by 
many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide you.

Re: CS>The Silvercell process?

2011-12-20 Thread sol

Marshall wrote:
I might add that when using a process that is very very slow, or uses 
bubbling, the water has time to absorb CO2, producing silver 
carbonate. Silver carbonate has a solubility of 32 ppm, so it is 
possible to exceed 40 ppm if silver carbonate is being made.


Marshall

What is the effectiveness of silver carbonate? Anything? What happens to 
it when ingested?

sol


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread sol

Alan Jones wrote:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/magdir.asp


Oh, thanks!
sol


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RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread PTFerrance
I know some people on the list like Kulish but Davis & Rawls predated him by
many, many years.  Their stuff is still available and will help guide you.

PT

 

From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

 

Great link, thanks.  Anyone have ideas/suggestions on which ones to use?

Also, any books on how to use them?

-Alan

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ode Coyote 
wrote:


 http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu

Save your self a pile of money.

Ode




At 11:40 AM 12/19/2011 -0800, you wrote:

Kathy,

I agree with Renee and of course Peter.  Those biomagscience magnets have
helped me a lot specially my arthritic hands.  I used the biggest of the lot
under (green) and top of my hand (red) and bec of its size it held together
without tapes!  I moved the top around and the bottom one followed, but
being careful not to let it go  near the edge of the palm as they would snap
with your skin in-between them (golly gosh, the pain!!!@@#@#@).  The pain
was gone in minutes.  Great magnets.

Melly


-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)



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Re: CS>The Silvercell process?

2011-12-20 Thread Marshall
I might add that when using a process that is very very slow, or uses 
bubbling, the water has time to absorb CO2, producing silver carbonate. 
Silver carbonate has a solubility of 32 ppm, so it is possible to exceed 
40 ppm if silver carbonate is being made.


Marshall

On 12/19/2011 9:12 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
It could be, though I am also skeptical.  Natural Immunogenics for 
example only has 23PPM with all their years of work.  And that is also 
suspiciously close to one hypothetical upper bound of roughly 26PPM 
(13PPM silver oxide, 13 PPM silverhydroxide).  This lends credence to 
that hypothetical upper bound (without using ultra low current density 
like Mike is doing, that is).


How is the 40PPM measured on the SilverGen?  A built in meter?  Short 
of getting a batch lab-analyzed, the correctness and relevance of the 
reading that that meter gives would need to be validated.  The 
conductance drop over time after the batch is finished would also need 
to be viewed.  Also visible plateout or fallout.  Also potential 
contamination sources.


David


On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Alan Jones > wrote:


Would you mind sharing more details on this?  How small must the
batch be?  How pure must the water be?

-Alan


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Alchemysa mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au>> wrote:


Anyway, I've made 40+ ppm CS with a Silverpuppy in the past.
Its not that hard. Its just a matter of using very pure water
and keeping the batch size small.  Trem has also said he's
made 40+ with a Silvergen. Mike would dispute this of course.

David

-- 
Alan Jones


"The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to
the States respectively, or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to
the US Constitution)






Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Renee.  I have been reading all the posts on this topic -- I just managed to 
miss the part about 50% off.  Thanks.
MA





From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 8:29:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Another way to heal


Peter Kulish at www.biomagscience.net for all his magnets kits.  You just put 
50% in the code on the order page.  He carries 3 supplements that are great and 
you can get 25% off the supplements by using 25%S in the code box.

See my previous pasts the last 2 days about how wonderful the magnets work for 
health.

Samala,
Renee 





---Original Message---


I must have missed something -- who is having a 50% off sale?
MA

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Jones
Great link, thanks.  Anyone have ideas/suggestions on which ones to use?

Also, any books on how to use them?

-Alan

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>  
> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/**categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu
>
> Save your self a pile of money.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 11:40 AM 12/19/2011 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> Kathy,
>>
>> I agree with Renee and of course Peter.  Those biomagscience magnets have
>> helped me a lot specially my arthritic hands.  I used the biggest of the
>> lot under (green) and top of my hand (red) and bec of its size it held
>> together without tapes!  I moved the top around and the bottom one
>> followed, but being careful not to let it go  near the edge of the palm as
>> they would snap with your skin in-between them (golly gosh, the
>> pain!!!@@#@#@).  The pain was gone in minutes.  Great magnets.
>>
>> Melly
>>
>>
-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Jones
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/magdir.asp

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM, sol  wrote:

> Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>>  
>> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/**categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu
>>
>> Save your self a pile of money.
>>
>> Ode
>>
> Found some I'm interested in at that site. They say "axially" magnetized,
> and I hate to be so dumb, but what does that mean?
> The ones I'm looking at are discs, does it mean one flat side is north and
> the other south? And further, probably even dumber, they do not appear to
> have the poles marked so how would I know which is which?
> thanks,
> sol



-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread sol

Ode Coyote wrote:

  http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu

Save your self a pile of money.

Ode
Found some I'm interested in at that site. They say "axially" 
magnetized, and I hate to be so dumb, but what does that mean?
The ones I'm looking at are discs, does it mean one flat side is north 
and the other south? And further, probably even dumber, they do not 
appear to have the poles marked so how would I know which is which?

thanks,
sol



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Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Peter Kulish at www.biomagscience.net for all his magnets kits.  You just
put 50% in the code on the order page.  He carries 3 supplements that are
great and you can get 25% off the supplements by using 25%S in the code box.

See my previous pasts the last 2 days about how wonderful the magnets work
for health.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
I must have missed something -- who is having a 50% off sale?
MA

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-20 Thread Ode Coyote



  http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu

Save your self a pile of money.

Ode






At 11:40 AM 12/19/2011 -0800, you wrote:

Kathy,

I agree with Renee and of course Peter.  Those biomagscience magnets have 
helped me a lot specially my arthritic hands.  I used the biggest of the 
lot under (green) and top of my hand (red) and bec of its size it held 
together without tapes!  I moved the top around and the bottom one 
followed, but being careful not to let it go  near the edge of the palm as 
they would snap with your skin in-between them (golly gosh, the 
pain!!!@@#@#@).  The pain was gone in minutes.  Great magnets.


Melly

--- On Mon, 12/19/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, December 19, 2011, 12:58 PM



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Re: CS>Another way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I must have missed something -- who is having a 50% off sale?
MA





From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 19, 2011 9:37:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Another way to heal


If you use the stronger ones you could put it outside your shoe--though you 
must wrap it good enough that it doesn't fall off.  You could get the book out 
and look up the method that is recommended for toes.  It will depend on which 
foot it is on as to whether you use the positive or negative side of the 
magnets.

The group is here:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magnetictherapytoday/
Peter belongs to the group and will answer any questions you have about 
magnets and healing with them.  

This 50% off sale is great, though members of the group get 25% off all the 
time 
with a special code.  So if someone missed the holiday sales there's still a 
way 
to save some money.

Samala,
Renee. 





---Original Message---
 
What is the link to the magnet  group please? 

CS>Highly ionic CS.

2011-12-20 Thread Alchemysa


From: David AuBuchon 
Date: 20 December 2011 12:42:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>The Silvercell process?


How is the 40PPM measured on the SilverGen?  A built in meter?   
Short of getting a batch lab-analyzed, the correctness and  
relevance of the reading that that meter gives would need to be  
validated.  The conductance drop over time after the batch is  
finished would also need to be viewed.  Also visible plateout or  
fallout.  Also potential contamination sources.


David




Trems was measured with a PWT meter I assume.
Mike claims that basic gens only make 5 ppm. Thats self-serving BS.  
He creates a lot of straw man arguments to make his process sound  
more impressive than it really is. Just about any gen can make pretty  
high ppm with a little practice and experimentation. 23 ppm (eg  
Natural immunogenics) is typical of the maximum acheivable for a  
'stable' batch that you can bottle and store, but its not hard to  
make CS thats 'temporarily' highly ionic, and isn't that all you  
need?  Why worry about conductance drop? Just drink the stuff while  
its fresh and highly ionic.



David


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