Re: CSAtten: Brooks

2012-10-29 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you very much.  I'm going to print this out and implement it!!
Mary Ann





From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 2:56:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks

The answer to  your question is yes.  Nearly all
fungus-containing mediums respond quite favorably to common bicarbonate of soda
  One simple protocol we found useful...and effective for topical
address of a majority of the fungal insults ...was a solution
containing any of a range of DMSO strengths from 25% to 50% (by
volume), mixed with 25% (by volume) supersaturated sodium bicarbonate
(e.g. where limit of solution dissolved is reached  Identifiable
by the fact that undissolved  sodium fraction will start to collect in
the bottom of your mixing  container). Adding 25% (by volume) 10 ppm
colloidal silver is a useful option.  This is a very forgiving
compound and may be used on experimental subjects with confidence (at
least we have found it so) to be free of contravening effects.
      Just apply, generously, to the affected areas
every 2 to 4 hours for one 24 hour period and once
every 6 hours for the following 48 hour period
yielded excellent results for a majority of ALL skin
surface insults we tested in our research.
  I hope these comments are of value to your
experimental investigations.
  I must go now.
      Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  Additionally, we found a majority of all skin carcinomas (as
well as those presenting in the mouth and upper throat)  responded
VERY POSITIVELY  to repeated spraying ( once every two hours during
the
day using a 10% (by volume) DMSO X saturated bicarbonate of soda
solution (by volume) .continued  on a 2 hour interval
basis--until favorably resolved, or a maximum of 14 days total.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM, MaryAnn Helland
marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Dear Brooks -- your p.s. response below made me wonder -- do you know if
 DMSO or anything else can be used for toenail fungus?  Thanks.
 MA
 
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sat, October 27, 2012 1:03:48 PM
 Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye
 p.s.  It might be of value for list members to consider the useful
 application of DMSO---at strengths up to 99% concentration-as a
 direct address for ingrown toe nails and heavily-calloused areas of
 the foot (the tissue-softening effects are...many times
 superlativeand immediate, (especially when combined with a CS
 component for pathogen control..
 ..


 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote:

 I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it
 a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength
 of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything
 else that works?
 Thanks,
 Paula


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Re: CSstye in the eye

2012-10-29 Thread asif nathekar
Hi Taniform,Would you kindly share studies, links, documents or equations to bring some weight to this opinion.You have some of us intrigued!Thank youBest regardsAsif.From: "Taniform Asongwe" tason...@yahoo.co.ukTo: "silver-list@eskimo.com" silver-list@eskimo.comSent: 28 October 2012 17:33Subject: Re: CSstye in the eyeDMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would not suggest that at all.From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com  Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye   I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS.solPaula Perry wrote: I hope someone has a
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RE: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

2012-10-29 Thread Ode Coyote



  What we make can..if..

1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over 
loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]

2] Abnormal body chemistry
3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.

One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong 
as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped 
his regimen.
The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing 
them somehow and was not being eliminated.


It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry 
workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many 
hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?

Odds, slim to almost none, but possible

Use some common sense.

Ode


At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:

Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?

Well CS might, but what we produce won't.

Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine 
g.  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't 
cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged 
particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect 
in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we 
make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what 
particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any 
cosmetic issue.


Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or 
used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed 
in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned 
it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or 
use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in 
Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 
'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver 
acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go 
against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form 
of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 
'stuff?' of which is not what we produce.


To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 
'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.


N.


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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

Hi,
I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for 
Lyme treatment.
I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But 
then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said

   After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
   oz
 every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
 or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria

I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.

ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe 
site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is 
that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS 
generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?


Thank you for your help.
Sandy


Re: CSstye in the eye

2012-10-29 Thread ATOMICSILVER
Rub some high carat gold on to a stye on the eye ...and it will  
disappear !!

On 29/10/2012, at 7:37, asif nathekar wrote:


Hi Taniform,

Would you kindly share studies, links, documents or equations to  
bring some weight to this opinion.

You have some of us intrigued!
Thank you
Best regards
Asif.
From: Taniform Asongwe tason...@yahoo.co.uk
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 28 October 2012 17:33
Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye

DMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would  
not suggest that at all.


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11
Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye

I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS.
sol

Paula Perry wrote:
 I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put  
cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure  
of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay  
on very long. Anything else that works?

 Thanks,
 Paula





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Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

2012-10-29 Thread Marshall

I have used it many times and survived!

Marshall

On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

NOTHING survives O of O

- Original Message -
*From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been
successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no
shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee



*From: *Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
*Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
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*Date: *Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
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silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject: *CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
*Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
*Resent-Date: *Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700

  The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and
shingles issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap
and easy to try.  Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate
the pain of shingles.  I have no personal experience with this oil
for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj

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RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

2012-10-29 Thread Trem
Excuse my ignorance.  What is O of O?

 

Trem

 

 

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

 

I have used it many times and survived!

Marshall

On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

NOTHING survives O of O

- Original Message - 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM

Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

 

Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful..
Having tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no shingles would ever survive
it! (lol) dee




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From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700

  The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles
issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.
Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I
have no personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj




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Re: CSstye in the eye

2012-10-29 Thread Marshall
The combination is used successfully rather extensively.  There is no 
reaction between them that I know of, except over time the CS can 
aggregate somewhat increasing the size of the particles.  Please give me 
a reference or link that supports this contention.


Marshall


On 10/28/2012 1:33 PM, Taniform Asongwe wrote:
DMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would not 
suggest that at all.



*From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11
*Subject:* Re: CSstye in the eye

I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS.
sol

Paula Perry wrote:
 I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs 
in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of 
the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on 
very long. Anything else that works?

 Thanks,
 Paula





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Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

2012-10-29 Thread Asif Nathekar
Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller groupOil of Oregano 


From: Trem 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group


Excuse my ignorance.  What is O of O?

 

Trem

 

 

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

 

I have used it many times and survived!

Marshall

On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

NOTHING survives O of O

  - Original Message - 

  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM

  Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

   

  Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having 
tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) 
dee




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  Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
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  Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
  Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700

The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles 
issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.  Also, 
geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I have no 
personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj




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Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

2012-10-29 Thread Marshall

On 10/28/2012 6:15 PM, Dave Darrin wrote:

Something I forgot to mention.
I've had two very prominent dark red scars across my cheek from when I 
was 12 years old, I ran into a barbed wire that had been left up 
after  a fence was removed. The wire was just the right hight. It 
almost cut all the way through into my mouth.
 Now 65 years later I have no more scars as a result of my CDS/enzyme 
treatment . I've taken a few courses in the past of serrapeptase 
enzyme but didn't notice any difference then, but the amount of 
wobenzyme I used in this therapy is probably what did the trick.
  I hope more people check out this Lyme protocol because it actually 
works and not to expensive either.


  As far as the Argeria question is concerned, we had a thread some 
time back and a number of list members joined in and were quite 
concerned that their condition was being swept under the rug , so to 
speak, by those that make money from CS/EIS or whatever else you might 
want to call it

( It's all the same thing)( about 80% Ionic).
A very short time after we had all told our stories and it was 
considered that we made it correctly but some like myself had used to 
much for to long a time, our own Marshal Dudly came on here and said 
you couldn't possibly get Argeria from properly made CS--He sells 
lots of it.


I do not sell CS to the public and have not for over 5 years.  What I 
have found is that ionic silver (silver compounds) can cause argyria, 
and colloidal silver acts as a prophylactic against it.  The reason is 
that argyria in the skin is nothing more than the standard photographic 
seed forming and development process in the skin, where silver compounds 
are reduced to atomic silver in the area of photo exposure, then excess 
silver compounds plate out on those forming particles which grow 
sufficiently to get stuck in the skin.  Since there is a particle in CS 
for the ionic portion to plate out on, most of it will plate out on it, 
instead of circulating until it finds a particle in the skin to plate 
out on.


Typical home made colloidal silver will get trapped by the cells at the 
root of a fingernail, most likely through the process of attempting to 
eliminate metals in the fingernails and hair.  This can become tapped in 
the moons of fingernails, and several here, including myself and wife 
have had this happen to us.  This is a different process than argyria in 
the skin.


As far as getting argyria though, it appears that taking normal 
amounts of CS rarely if ever result in any argyria.  Under these 
conditions, and seed particles that form are flushed out of the skin 
long before they can grow to a size to cause them to get stuck in the 
tissues.  If however one takes mega dosages, then even if 99% of the 
silver compounds plate out on the CS particles in the blood, the 1% can 
still plate out on the particles in the skin, and if the dosage is big 
enough, cause them to grow fast enough they could get stuck.  I believe 
it is possible to get argyria if you take big enough dosages of high ppm 
CS over a long enough time, but since home made CS is typically rather 
low ppm, it takes a lot of it to cause a problem, thus it is rarely if 
ever reported.  I took an ounce of 10 ppm CS a day for about 6 or 7 
years daily with no consequences, then after being bit by a tick that I 
though might have lyme, I took a quart of 20 ppm every day for 3 or 4 
days.  Only after this megadosage did I get the blue moons, although 
total silver intake over the previous 6 or so years was much much more 
overall.


However once seed particles get caught in the skin, any CS can over time 
cause them to grow until they become visible, causing argyria.  It is 
important to not let any seed particles ever get caught in the skin as 
they can continue to grow over time, even with low dosages of CS.  That 
is one thing that can be confounding to people who took improperly made 
silver, using salt, and got a light case of argyria, then find it 
worsens even when they are now using properly made CS.  The reason is 
the seed particles are already in the skin and are already stuck, so ANY 
silver compound can plate out on them making it worse.  If one does need 
to take megadosages of CS, I would highly recommend staying out of the 
sun until the serum level can drop to a reasonably low level.


Marshall


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Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS

2012-10-29 Thread Tel Tofflemire
You may want to look at the Colloidal Master Not expensive and I have had 
mine for over 15 years.  Works very well. look it up.  {Colloidal Master}

 
Tel Tofflemire



 From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS
 

Im new also im buying a silvergen ive talked to the person that sells them and 
he;s been very helpful.they are $229 tho.


On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 8:13 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hi,
I am new and want to make my own CS.

When I went to silver puppy.com web site to purchase a machine I got very 
confused. The site does not mention silver puppy. It is Coyote Zenterprizes. 
Is that the correct site to order from? IS it the 
standard automatic CS generator that I should purchase. Should I purchase a 
stirrer also?

Any other suggestion on how to start would be appreciated.

Thank you for your help.
Sandy


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Re: CSO of O

2012-10-29 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Oil of orgegano Trem.  dee



From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:44 -0700
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:46 -0700

Excuse my ignorance.  What is O of O?
 
Trem
 
 

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
 
I have used it many times and survived!

Marshall

On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

NOTHING survives O of O
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org
 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM
 
 Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
 
  
 Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having
 tasted O of O I can say that I¹m sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol)
 dee
 
 
 From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700
 
   The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles
 issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.  Also,
 geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I have no
 personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj
 
 
 
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Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O

2012-10-29 Thread dingyung49
Hi, group,
 
 Does O of O help psoriasis?  
My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck, legs.  He does 
not want going to see doctor.  He said there was no cure.   I tried MMS with 
DMSO spray.  temporary got rid of thick skin and showing pink bare skin.  Now 
it went back to original ugly psoriasis.  He also am suffering thick fungus 
toenails and callous too painful to walk.  I suspect he has lots fungus/yeast 
issues.  I am thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. to give a try 
or may be O of O paste?  Your feedback much appreciated.  Helen 
--- On Mon, 10/29/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:


From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
Subject: Re: CSO of O
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:50 AM



Oil of orgegano Trem.  dee




From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:44 -0700
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:46 -0700

Excuse my ignorance.  What is O of O?
 
Trem
 
 

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group

I have used it many times and survived!

Marshall

On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

NOTHING survives O of O


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Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having 
tasted O of O I can say that I’m sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) 
dee




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 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles 
issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.  Also, 
geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I have no 
personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj



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Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS

2012-10-29 Thread sol

http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html

I don't own that generator myself, but people who do seem to like it.
sol

Tel Tofflemire wrote:
You may want to look at the Colloidal Master Not expensive and I 
have had mine for over 15 years.  Works very well. look it up.  
{Colloidal Master}



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Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O

2012-10-29 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 10/29/2012 1:19:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dingyun...@att.net writes:

Does O of O help psoriasis?  
My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck,  legs.  He 
does not want going to see doctor.  He said there was no  cure.   I tried 
MMS with DMSO spray.  temporary got rid of  thick skin and showing pink bare 
skin.  Now it went back to original ugly  psoriasis.  He also am suffering 
thick fungus toenails and callous too  painful to walk.  I suspect he has lots 
fungus/yeast issues.  I am  thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. 
to give a try or may  be O of O paste?  Your feedback much appreciated.   
Helen 




Helen, the beat thing I have found to help many people with  skin 
conditions is Brooks Mix---This is it---  
75% CS {EIS}--10% DMSO--15% glycerin. Put the DMSO in  last--The mixture 
will get warm but that's OK.. shake it a bit before each use..  It is great 
for many, many skin conditions, shingles, psoriasis, athletes foot,   on  
on..{{ Can uses Aloe Vera in place of glycerin  in some  cases it works 
better  is less expensive..Just make sure it is pure with no  added 
ingredients..}}   .Lois 


Re: CSFibromyalgia

2012-10-29 Thread Lena Guyot
Brooks mix:
75%CS, 15%aloe or glycerine, and, added last, 10% DMSO. L
On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Hi: Appreciate all the advice on here but have to admit i dont understand 
 much of it.
 Does anyone know of any benefits of CS on fibro? i know that dmso might help 
 some aching and soreness.
 Also ho wowuld i mix the cs with dmso to apply to skin or joints?
 Thanks so much
 gary
 
 -- 
 Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
 Jesus Christ. 
 Gary  Lennie
 



Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

2012-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Hi Mark,

Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science on
it.  FWIW; here it is.

Jim

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



   What we make can..if..

 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over
 loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]
 2] Abnormal body chemistry
 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.

 One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong
 as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
 He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped
 his regimen.
 The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals,
 neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated.

 It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
 Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
 Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry
 workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many
 hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
 Odds, slim to almost none, but possible

 Use some common sense.

 Ode


 At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:

 Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?

 Well CS might, but what we produce won't.

 Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine
 g.  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause
 Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged
 particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in
 tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in
 the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles
 there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic
 issue.

 Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or
 used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed
 in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned
 it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or
 use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in
 Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called
 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver
 acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go
 against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of
 stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?'
 of which is not what we produce.

 To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a
 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.

 N.

 --
 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

 Hi,
 I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for
 Lyme treatment.
 I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But
 then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria

 I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.

 ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe
 site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is
 that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS
 generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?

 Thank you for your help.
 Sandy



Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

2012-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Mail Error.  Sorry, Jim

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science
 on it.  FWIW; here it is.

 Jim

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



   What we make can..if..

 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over
 loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]
 2] Abnormal body chemistry
 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.

 One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as
 strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
 He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped
 his regimen.
 The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals,
 neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated.

 It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
 Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
 Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry
 workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how
 many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
 Odds, slim to almost none, but possible

 Use some common sense.

 Ode


 At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:

 Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?

 Well CS might, but what we produce won't.

 Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with
 mine g.  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't
 cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged
 particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in
 tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in
 the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles
 there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic
 issue.

 Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or
 used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed
 in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned
 it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or
 use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in
 Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called
 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver
 acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go
 against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of
 stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?'
 of which is not what we produce.

 To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a
 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.

 N.

 --
 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

 Hi,
 I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for
 Lyme treatment.
 I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But
 then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol (
 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a
 day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria

 I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.

 ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe
 site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is
 that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS
 generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?

 Thank you for your help.
 Sandy





Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

2012-10-29 Thread Lena Guyot
Tart cherry juice (or capsules) is excellent for gout. Also avoid foods high in 
purines. L
On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:

 Mail Error.  Sorry, Jim
 
 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 
 Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science on 
 it.  FWIW; here it is. 
 
 Jim 
 
 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 
   What we make can..if..
 
 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded 
 with copper + low Selenium?  ]
 2] Abnormal body chemistry
 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.
 
 One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as 
 he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
 He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his 
 regimen.
 The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing 
 them somehow and was not being eliminated.
 
 It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
 Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
 Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers 
 exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many 
 hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
 Odds, slim to almost none, but possible
 
 Use some common sense.
 
 Ode
 
 
 At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:
 Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?
 
 Well CS might, but what we produce won't.
 
 Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine 
 g.  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause 
 Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged 
 particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in 
 tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in 
 the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles 
 there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic 
 issue.
 
 Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or 
 used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in 
 large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it 
 won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or use 
 of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. 
  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 
 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, 
 solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the 
 correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser 
 {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is 
 not what we produce.
 
 To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 
 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
 
 Hi,
 I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for 
 Lyme treatment.
 I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I 
 read in a  post today that  Dave  said 
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria
 
 I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.
 
 ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site 
 does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the 
 correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was 
 recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?
 
 Thank you for your help.
 Sandy
 
 



Re: CSFibromyalgia

2012-10-29 Thread sol
You can dilute DMSO to the desired strength with distilled water, but I 
always use my EIS. I mean, why not? Just in case there is any infectious 
process going on. The EIS can't hurt even if there isn't any infection 
of any kind.
How much DMSO to use is individual. In general use it weaker above the 
waist, most people tolerate stronger on legs, knees, feet.
I generally keep roll on bottles of DMSO diluted in EIS on hand for any 
immediate need. I make that about 30% DMSO.

sol

Gary Hilt wrote:
Hi: Appreciate all the advice on here but have to admit i dont 
understand much of it.
Does anyone know of any benefits of CS on fibro? i know that dmso 
might help some aching and soreness.

Also ho wowuld i mix the cs with dmso to apply to skin or joints?
Thanks so much
gary




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Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

2012-10-29 Thread David AuBuchon
There are home uric acid test devices are available.  After researching
gout in the past, I concluded cinnamon extract (Gaia brand - I don't
remember why I chose it now though) may be an effective therapy to lower
uric acid.  Cinnemaldehyde (which is present in cinnamon extract) showed
massive plummet in uric acid from one megadose in an animal study.  You
could take as much total cinnemaldehyde in like a 6 month period with a
normal dose of cinnamon extract.

David



On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Tart cherry juice (or capsules) is excellent for gout. Also avoid foods
 high in purines. L

 On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:

 Mail Error.  Sorry, Jim

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science
 on it.  FWIW; here it is.

 Jim

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



   What we make can..if..

 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over
 loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]
 2] Abnormal body chemistry
 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.

 One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as
 strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
 He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not
 stopped his regimen.
 The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals,
 neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated.

 It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
 Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
 Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry
 workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how
 many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
 Odds, slim to almost none, but possible

 Use some common sense.

 Ode


 At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:

 Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?

 Well CS might, but what we produce won't.

 Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with
 mine g.  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't
 cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged
 particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in
 tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in
 the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles
 there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic
 issue.

 Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed
 or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not
 consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm
 concerned it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the
 consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having
 resulted in Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that
 product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver
 nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or
 wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product
 containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a
 host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce.

 To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a
 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.

 N.

 --
 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

 Hi,
 I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home
 for Lyme treatment.
 I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But
 then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol
 ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a
 day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from
 Argeria

 I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.

 ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe
 site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is
 that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS
 generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?

 Thank you for your help.
 Sandy







CSDosage of CS for Lyme

2012-10-29 Thread JERRY PRENDERGAST
Hi,,
Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from 
CS 
and suggestions for which CS maker to buy.
ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and 
CS.

I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and 
how to increase dosage.

Thanks Sandy