Re: CSAtten: Brooks
Thank you very much. I'm going to print this out and implement it!! Mary Ann From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 2:56:01 PM Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks The answer to your question is yes. Nearly all fungus-containing mediums respond quite favorably to common bicarbonate of soda One simple protocol we found useful...and effective for topical address of a majority of the fungal insults ...was a solution containing any of a range of DMSO strengths from 25% to 50% (by volume), mixed with 25% (by volume) supersaturated sodium bicarbonate (e.g. where limit of solution dissolved is reached Identifiable by the fact that undissolved sodium fraction will start to collect in the bottom of your mixing container). Adding 25% (by volume) 10 ppm colloidal silver is a useful option. This is a very forgiving compound and may be used on experimental subjects with confidence (at least we have found it so) to be free of contravening effects. Just apply, generously, to the affected areas every 2 to 4 hours for one 24 hour period and once every 6 hours for the following 48 hour period yielded excellent results for a majority of ALL skin surface insults we tested in our research. I hope these comments are of value to your experimental investigations. I must go now. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Additionally, we found a majority of all skin carcinomas (as well as those presenting in the mouth and upper throat) responded VERY POSITIVELY to repeated spraying ( once every two hours during the day using a 10% (by volume) DMSO X saturated bicarbonate of soda solution (by volume) .continued on a 2 hour interval basis--until favorably resolved, or a maximum of 14 days total. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dear Brooks -- your p.s. response below made me wonder -- do you know if DMSO or anything else can be used for toenail fungus? Thanks. MA From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, October 27, 2012 1:03:48 PM Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye p.s. It might be of value for list members to consider the useful application of DMSO---at strengths up to 99% concentration-as a direct address for ingrown toe nails and heavily-calloused areas of the foot (the tissue-softening effects are...many times superlativeand immediate, (especially when combined with a CS component for pathogen control.. .. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstye in the eye
Hi Taniform,Would you kindly share studies, links, documents or equations to bring some weight to this opinion.You have some of us intrigued!Thank youBest regardsAsif.From: "Taniform Asongwe" tason...@yahoo.co.ukTo: "silver-list@eskimo.com" silver-list@eskimo.comSent: 28 October 2012 17:33Subject: Re: CSstye in the eyeDMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would not suggest that at all.From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS.solPaula Perry wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orgUnsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribeArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlOff-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comList Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
What we make can..if.. 1] You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded with copper + low Selenium? ] 2] Abnormal body chemistry 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time. One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day for two years. He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his regimen. The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated. It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey. Normal elimination rate: 98% in 48 hours Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years? Odds, slim to almost none, but possible Use some common sense. Ode At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote: Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray? Well CS might, but what we produce won't. Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine g. What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough. What we make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic issue. Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it won't cause Argyria. There has not been one case of the consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce. To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria. N. -- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray? Hi, I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme treatment. I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I read in a post today that Dave said After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of a glass a day or more like drinking water, I started turning quite gray from Argeria I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this. ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Thank you for your help. Sandy
Re: CSstye in the eye
Rub some high carat gold on to a stye on the eye ...and it will disappear !! On 29/10/2012, at 7:37, asif nathekar wrote: Hi Taniform, Would you kindly share studies, links, documents or equations to bring some weight to this opinion. You have some of us intrigued! Thank you Best regards Asif. From: Taniform Asongwe tason...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 28 October 2012 17:33 Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye DMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would not suggest that at all. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS. sol Paula Perry wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM *Subject:* Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee *From: *Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Date: *Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: *CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Resent-Date: *Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
Excuse my ignorance. What is O of O? Trem From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee _ From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
Re: CSstye in the eye
The combination is used successfully rather extensively. There is no reaction between them that I know of, except over time the CS can aggregate somewhat increasing the size of the particles. Please give me a reference or link that supports this contention. Marshall On 10/28/2012 1:33 PM, Taniform Asongwe wrote: DMSO and CS results mostly likely in poisonous substance. I would not suggest that at all. *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, 27 October 2012, 17:11 *Subject:* Re: CSstye in the eye I'd add a couple of drops of DMSO to the CS. sol Paula Perry wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5359 - Release Date: 10/28/12
Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group
Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller groupOil of Oregano From: Trem Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Excuse my ignorance. What is O of O? Trem From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I'm sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee -- From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
Re: CSpromising late lyme cure
On 10/28/2012 6:15 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Something I forgot to mention. I've had two very prominent dark red scars across my cheek from when I was 12 years old, I ran into a barbed wire that had been left up after a fence was removed. The wire was just the right hight. It almost cut all the way through into my mouth. Now 65 years later I have no more scars as a result of my CDS/enzyme treatment . I've taken a few courses in the past of serrapeptase enzyme but didn't notice any difference then, but the amount of wobenzyme I used in this therapy is probably what did the trick. I hope more people check out this Lyme protocol because it actually works and not to expensive either. As far as the Argeria question is concerned, we had a thread some time back and a number of list members joined in and were quite concerned that their condition was being swept under the rug , so to speak, by those that make money from CS/EIS or whatever else you might want to call it ( It's all the same thing)( about 80% Ionic). A very short time after we had all told our stories and it was considered that we made it correctly but some like myself had used to much for to long a time, our own Marshal Dudly came on here and said you couldn't possibly get Argeria from properly made CS--He sells lots of it. I do not sell CS to the public and have not for over 5 years. What I have found is that ionic silver (silver compounds) can cause argyria, and colloidal silver acts as a prophylactic against it. The reason is that argyria in the skin is nothing more than the standard photographic seed forming and development process in the skin, where silver compounds are reduced to atomic silver in the area of photo exposure, then excess silver compounds plate out on those forming particles which grow sufficiently to get stuck in the skin. Since there is a particle in CS for the ionic portion to plate out on, most of it will plate out on it, instead of circulating until it finds a particle in the skin to plate out on. Typical home made colloidal silver will get trapped by the cells at the root of a fingernail, most likely through the process of attempting to eliminate metals in the fingernails and hair. This can become tapped in the moons of fingernails, and several here, including myself and wife have had this happen to us. This is a different process than argyria in the skin. As far as getting argyria though, it appears that taking normal amounts of CS rarely if ever result in any argyria. Under these conditions, and seed particles that form are flushed out of the skin long before they can grow to a size to cause them to get stuck in the tissues. If however one takes mega dosages, then even if 99% of the silver compounds plate out on the CS particles in the blood, the 1% can still plate out on the particles in the skin, and if the dosage is big enough, cause them to grow fast enough they could get stuck. I believe it is possible to get argyria if you take big enough dosages of high ppm CS over a long enough time, but since home made CS is typically rather low ppm, it takes a lot of it to cause a problem, thus it is rarely if ever reported. I took an ounce of 10 ppm CS a day for about 6 or 7 years daily with no consequences, then after being bit by a tick that I though might have lyme, I took a quart of 20 ppm every day for 3 or 4 days. Only after this megadosage did I get the blue moons, although total silver intake over the previous 6 or so years was much much more overall. However once seed particles get caught in the skin, any CS can over time cause them to grow until they become visible, causing argyria. It is important to not let any seed particles ever get caught in the skin as they can continue to grow over time, even with low dosages of CS. That is one thing that can be confounding to people who took improperly made silver, using salt, and got a light case of argyria, then find it worsens even when they are now using properly made CS. The reason is the seed particles are already in the skin and are already stuck, so ANY silver compound can plate out on them making it worse. If one does need to take megadosages of CS, I would highly recommend staying out of the sun until the serum level can drop to a reasonably low level. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS
You may want to look at the Colloidal Master Not expensive and I have had mine for over 15 years. Works very well. look it up. {Colloidal Master} Tel Tofflemire From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS Im new also im buying a silvergen ive talked to the person that sells them and he;s been very helpful.they are $229 tho. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 8:13 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I am new and want to make my own CS. When I went to silver puppy.com web site to purchase a machine I got very confused. The site does not mention silver puppy. It is Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from? IS it the standard automatic CS generator that I should purchase. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Any other suggestion on how to start would be appreciated. Thank you for your help. Sandy -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSO of O
Oil of orgegano Trem. dee From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:44 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:46 -0700 Excuse my ignorance. What is O of O? Trem From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I¹m sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O
Hi, group, Does O of O help psoriasis? My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck, legs. He does not want going to see doctor. He said there was no cure. I tried MMS with DMSO spray. temporary got rid of thick skin and showing pink bare skin. Now it went back to original ugly psoriasis. He also am suffering thick fungus toenails and callous too painful to walk. I suspect he has lots fungus/yeast issues. I am thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. to give a try or may be O of O paste? Your feedback much appreciated. Helen --- On Mon, 10/29/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Subject: Re: CSO of O To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:50 AM Oil of orgegano Trem. dee From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:44 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:46 -0700 Excuse my ignorance. What is O of O? Trem From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I’m sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS
http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html I don't own that generator myself, but people who do seem to like it. sol Tel Tofflemire wrote: You may want to look at the Colloidal Master Not expensive and I have had mine for over 15 years. Works very well. look it up. {Colloidal Master} -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O
In a message dated 10/29/2012 1:19:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dingyun...@att.net writes: Does O of O help psoriasis? My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck, legs. He does not want going to see doctor. He said there was no cure. I tried MMS with DMSO spray. temporary got rid of thick skin and showing pink bare skin. Now it went back to original ugly psoriasis. He also am suffering thick fungus toenails and callous too painful to walk. I suspect he has lots fungus/yeast issues. I am thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. to give a try or may be O of O paste? Your feedback much appreciated. Helen Helen, the beat thing I have found to help many people with skin conditions is Brooks Mix---This is it--- 75% CS {EIS}--10% DMSO--15% glycerin. Put the DMSO in last--The mixture will get warm but that's OK.. shake it a bit before each use.. It is great for many, many skin conditions, shingles, psoriasis, athletes foot, on on..{{ Can uses Aloe Vera in place of glycerin in some cases it works better is less expensive..Just make sure it is pure with no added ingredients..}} .Lois
Re: CSFibromyalgia
Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%aloe or glycerine, and, added last, 10% DMSO. L On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Gary Hilt wrote: Hi: Appreciate all the advice on here but have to admit i dont understand much of it. Does anyone know of any benefits of CS on fibro? i know that dmso might help some aching and soreness. Also ho wowuld i mix the cs with dmso to apply to skin or joints? Thanks so much gary -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
Hi Mark, Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout. I have never seen any hard science on it. FWIW; here it is. Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: What we make can..if.. 1] You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded with copper + low Selenium? ] 2] Abnormal body chemistry 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time. One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day for two years. He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his regimen. The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated. It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey. Normal elimination rate: 98% in 48 hours Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years? Odds, slim to almost none, but possible Use some common sense. Ode At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote: Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray? Well CS might, but what we produce won't. Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine g. What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough. What we make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic issue. Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it won't cause Argyria. There has not been one case of the consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce. To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria. N. -- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray? Hi, I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme treatment. I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I read in a post today that Dave said After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of a glass a day or more like drinking water, I started turning quite gray from Argeria I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this. ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Thank you for your help. Sandy
Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
Mail Error. Sorry, Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout. I have never seen any hard science on it. FWIW; here it is. Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: What we make can..if.. 1] You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded with copper + low Selenium? ] 2] Abnormal body chemistry 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time. One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day for two years. He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his regimen. The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated. It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey. Normal elimination rate: 98% in 48 hours Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years? Odds, slim to almost none, but possible Use some common sense. Ode At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote: Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray? Well CS might, but what we produce won't. Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine g. What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough. What we make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic issue. Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it won't cause Argyria. There has not been one case of the consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce. To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria. N. -- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray? Hi, I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme treatment. I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I read in a post today that Dave said After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of a glass a day or more like drinking water, I started turning quite gray from Argeria I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this. ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Thank you for your help. Sandy
Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
Tart cherry juice (or capsules) is excellent for gout. Also avoid foods high in purines. L On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Jim Holmes wrote: Mail Error. Sorry, Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout. I have never seen any hard science on it. FWIW; here it is. Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: What we make can..if.. 1] You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded with copper + low Selenium? ] 2] Abnormal body chemistry 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time. One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day for two years. He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his regimen. The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated. It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey. Normal elimination rate: 98% in 48 hours Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years? Odds, slim to almost none, but possible Use some common sense. Ode At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote: Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray? Well CS might, but what we produce won't. Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine g. What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough. What we make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic issue. Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it won't cause Argyria. There has not been one case of the consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce. To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria. N. Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray? Hi, I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme treatment. I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I read in a post today that Dave said After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of a glass a day or more like drinking water, I started turning quite gray from Argeria I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this. ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Thank you for your help. Sandy
Re: CSFibromyalgia
You can dilute DMSO to the desired strength with distilled water, but I always use my EIS. I mean, why not? Just in case there is any infectious process going on. The EIS can't hurt even if there isn't any infection of any kind. How much DMSO to use is individual. In general use it weaker above the waist, most people tolerate stronger on legs, knees, feet. I generally keep roll on bottles of DMSO diluted in EIS on hand for any immediate need. I make that about 30% DMSO. sol Gary Hilt wrote: Hi: Appreciate all the advice on here but have to admit i dont understand much of it. Does anyone know of any benefits of CS on fibro? i know that dmso might help some aching and soreness. Also ho wowuld i mix the cs with dmso to apply to skin or joints? Thanks so much gary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
There are home uric acid test devices are available. After researching gout in the past, I concluded cinnamon extract (Gaia brand - I don't remember why I chose it now though) may be an effective therapy to lower uric acid. Cinnemaldehyde (which is present in cinnamon extract) showed massive plummet in uric acid from one megadose in an animal study. You could take as much total cinnemaldehyde in like a 6 month period with a normal dose of cinnamon extract. David On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Tart cherry juice (or capsules) is excellent for gout. Also avoid foods high in purines. L On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Jim Holmes wrote: Mail Error. Sorry, Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Mark, Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout. I have never seen any hard science on it. FWIW; here it is. Jim On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: What we make can..if.. 1] You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over loaded with copper + low Selenium? ] 2] Abnormal body chemistry 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time. One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day for two years. He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped his regimen. The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals, neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated. It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey. Normal elimination rate: 98% in 48 hours Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000 Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years? Odds, slim to almost none, but possible Use some common sense. Ode At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote: Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray? Well CS might, but what we produce won't. Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine g. What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough. What we make in the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic issue. Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned it won't cause Argyria. There has not been one case of the consumption or use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in Argyria. Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?' of which is not what we produce. To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria. N. -- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray? Hi, I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme treatment. I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I read in a post today that Dave said After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of a glass a day or more like drinking water, I started turning quite gray from Argeria I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this. ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Thank you for your help. Sandy
CSDosage of CS for Lyme
Hi,, Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy. ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and CS. I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and how to increase dosage. Thanks Sandy