Re: CSStoring water
Thanks for all the replies. I'm afraid the Berkey is beyond my means. I've seen the water bob things for the bath but it's not quite what I'm looking for. To be honest, I don't actually see a Sandy type disaster here, though I agree never say never. There have however been several times when the water supply has been disrupted, often without any notice. The main water supply pipes have been around since Victorian times and do have a habit of bursting in the winter. We're in a small 4th floor flat. We usually have a supply of bottled water on hand, as it's all my son drinks (not that i agree with that) and we store quite a few of the used containers filled with tap water around the toilet, so that we have a supply to flush it. I was just wondering in an emergency, if we were out of bottled water, how to make sure that stored tap water was safe to drink? I always thought adding CS was a good idea? If I was to use hydrogen peroxide 35% or 3%, any idea how much I would add to a quart/litre? I haven't managed to find any info on this as every site I've come across recommends adding iodine, whiich i suppose is another option. cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSStoring water
Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof: Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up quite pure at around 2 uS conductivity or less. Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable water for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might sterilize the water] Back in the day: I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree trunks, cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with screen wire to keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose just off the bottom. ..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even during a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on the trees in it ] Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water caught on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides] 10 feet of 4 PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2 pipe thread hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of activated charcoal. Interesting process learned last night: A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to reflect concentrated sunlight back into the bottle [parabolic mirror] will sterilize the water in about 6 hours. Heat? and concentrated UV light. UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines. Looking into water purification kits at REI... Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the Chlorine. ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it. -Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual chlorine forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in process systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen peroxide falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite ions (OCl-). Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl- After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite: OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2 The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with hypochlorite. Lots of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach Boiling for water sterilization Boiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only advocated as an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of portable water purification in rural or wilderness settings without access to a potable water infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective in killing or inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling is the most certain way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to the Wilderness Medical Societyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0[1], water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30 minutes and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes for the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C), all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let the water boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes since water boils at a lower temperature.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0[1] Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at very low concentrations. Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water at low concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it finds the counterpart also produced, or both bubble off. Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it. Got a car battery, [solar panel? Bicycle with old style generator?] some old galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables ? Ode Ode
Re: CSStoring water
Hi Ode, This is interesting and useful information. I lived with cisterns and while I would bathe in the water I wouldn't drink it. Every time I did I got sick. Then the cistern was cleaned and you wouldn't believe what they shoveled out at the bottom. No wonder I got sick. Live and dead critters! Just my experience. PT From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, November 6, 2012 8:03:49 AM Subject: Re: CSStoring water Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof: Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up quite pure at around 2 uS conductivity or less. Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable water for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might sterilize the water] Back in the day: I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree trunks, cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with screen wire to keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose just off the bottom. ..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even during a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on the trees in it ] Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water caught on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides] 10 feet of 4 PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2 pipe thread hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of activated charcoal. Interesting process learned last night: A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to reflect concentrated sunlight back into the bottle [parabolic mirror] will sterilize the water in about 6 hours. Heat? and concentrated UV light. UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines. Looking into water purification kits at REI... Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the Chlorine. ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it. -Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual chlorine forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in process systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen peroxide falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite ions (OCl-). Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl- After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite: OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2 The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with hypochlorite. Lots of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach Boiling for water sterilizationBoiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only advocated as an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of portable water purification in rural or wilderness settings without access to a potable water infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective in killing or inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling is the most certain way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to the Wilderness Medical Society[1], water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30 minutes and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes for the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C), all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let the water boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes since water boils at a lower temperature.[1] Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at very low concentrations. Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water at low concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it finds the counterpart also produced, or both bubble off. Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it. Got a car battery, [solar panel? Bicycle with old style generator?] some old galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables ? Ode Ode
Re: CSStoring water
Hello Kirsteen, IF disaster strikes, even your old bottled tap water for the toilet will be better than any new tap water that could be available. I bought an Aquarain several years ago http://www.aquarain.com/ It's made in the USA (or at least enough is to claim that). There are a few slight differences between the Aquarain and the Berkey but they do not have to be significant. As nearly as I can tell, price ,no way to hook up a fluoride filter, and the size of the stem that goes from the filter into the clean tank. The Berkey fluoride filter works for 6000 gallons and may be worth the money. It may also be adapted to the AquaRain; after I saw the price I didn't look at it. I put some Borax in the to-be-filtered water and take some in my coffee daily to counter Fl. The size of the stem IS important but not a purchase problem because if you want to use a Black Berkey (the best from what I've read) ceramic filter you just take it to the hardware store and buy 4 wing nuts that fit the stem. If I were doing it again, I wouldn't even buy the Aqua Rain. It is less than the Berkey but money is tight. Since my research (14 yrs agi) there are marvelous youtubes and other sites showing you have to piece together materials to make a water filter like either the Berkey or the Aqua Rain at considerably less expense. Once you know what the significant parts are and how they work, your imagination's the limit. Spend money on the best filter you can buy. If you're in a hurry, make that filters. The more ceramic cones you use in a filter, the faster the water flows. IF you know that your water needs purified (river, roof, mud puddle water) and are concerned about the viability of the filter, add a slosh of iodine or bleach or peroxide to the filtration chamber. It'll kill anything going thru the filter. If I put food coloring in the top, the water in the bottom comes thru' clear--kinda cool. You want a filter that will remove microorganisms. I found one site that had a neat-looking comparison of all the ceramic filter units but the data did not fit my experience so I chalked it up to sales fluff. FWIW Saralou http://www.motherearthnews.com/do-it-yourself/diy-ceramic-water-filters-zwfz1207zmat.aspx http://www.aquatechnology.net/ceramicfiltration.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5XEoc2ocds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrfcuqQ76qI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSyXvtvlDEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3q-GODhrFAfeature=related Explains well. However, filter is for potable water unless you add a 3rd bucket with a finer filter. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/CAMP-352 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFfLbeXDav8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w21d_YXiOOUfeature=related http://www.monolithic.com/stories/a-practical-life-sustaining-water-filter http://www.amazon.com/Berkey-British-Berkefeld-Ceramic-Filters/product-reviews/B002RZRJHI http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/CAMP-354 http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/06/pats-product-review-just-water-brand-ceramic-drip-filter-system.html http://kopernik.info/en-us/technology/water-filter http://www.berkeywater.com/start.main.html http://www.bigberkey.com/ A PERFORMANCE STUDY OF CERAMIC /CANDLE FILTERS/ IN *...* http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/31120/61162474.pdfdspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/31120/61162474.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDm28tC1XyE http://doultonusa.com/HTML%20pages/candles.htm On 11/6/2012 7:12 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I'm afraid the Berkey is beyond my means. I've seen the water bob things for the bath but it's not quite what I'm looking for. To be honest, I don't actually see a Sandy type disaster here, though I agree never say never. There have however been several times when the water supply has been disrupted, often without any notice. The main water supply pipes have been around since Victorian times and do have a habit of bursting in the winter. We're in a small 4th floor flat. We usually have a supply of bottled water on hand, as it's all my son drinks (not that i agree with that) and we store quite a few of the used containers filled with tap water around the toilet, so that we have a supply to flush it. I was just wondering in an emergency, if we were out of bottled water, how to make sure that stored tap water was safe to drink? I always thought adding CS was a good idea? If I was to use hydrogen peroxide 35% or 3%, any idea how much I would add to a quart/litre? I haven't managed to find any info on this as every site I've come across recommends adding iodine, whiich i suppose is another option. cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives:
RE: CSStoring water
I believe chlorine evaporates out of water in about 6 hours if left open to the air. _ From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStoring water Hi Ode, This is interesting and useful information. I lived with cisterns and while I would bathe in the water I wouldn't drink it. Every time I did I got sick. Then the cistern was cleaned and you wouldn't believe what they shoveled out at the bottom. No wonder I got sick. Live and dead critters! Just my experience. PT _ From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, November 6, 2012 8:03:49 AM Subject: Re: CSStoring water Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof: Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up quite pure at around 2 uS conductivity or less. Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable water for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might sterilize the water] Back in the day: I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree trunks, cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with screen wire to keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose just off the bottom. ..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even during a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on the trees in it ] Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water caught on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides] 10 feet of 4 PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2 pipe thread hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of activated charcoal. Interesting process learned last night: A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to reflect concentrated sunlight back into the bottle [parabolic mirror] will sterilize the water in about 6 hours. Heat? and concentrated UV light. UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines. Looking into water purification kits at REI... Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the Chlorine. ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it. -Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual chlorine forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in process systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen peroxide falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite ions (OCl-). Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl- After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite: OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2 The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with hypochlorite. Lots of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach Boiling for water sterilization Boiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only advocated as an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of portable water purification in rural or wilderness settings without access to a potable water infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective in killing or inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling is the most certain way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to the Wilderness Medical Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0 [1], water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30 minutes and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes for the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C), all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let the water boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes since water boils at a lower temperature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0 [1] Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at very low concentrations. Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water at low concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it finds the counterpart also produced, or both bubble off. Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it. Got a car battery, [solar panel? Bicycle with old style generator?] some old galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables ? Ode Ode
Re: CSDMSO
That would be a *tack* store. Or a feed store. Or a farm store. Bottles of DMSO will be on the shelves of any of these -- and it's unlikely that anyone will ask any questions about why you're buying it -- there's nothing illegal about buying it. Incidentally -- frequently you'll find roll-on DMSO, and jars of DMSO gel right alongside the bottles of the liquid. Both of these products are great for use on sore, arthritic joints. MA From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 5, 2012 4:41:27 PM Subject: Re: CSDMSO Look for a TAC Store,It is a store that handles feed grain and Horse supplies. Say your horse is coming up kinda lame, if they ask you what you want it for. That is all you need to say. Tel Tofflemire From: Harold har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:34 AM Subject: CSDMSO Anybody know of a Canadian supply source for DMSO? TIA, Harold
Re: CSMSM
I buy mine at msm-msm.com A nice lady in Arizona sells msm in bulk, at lower prices. Tel Tofflemire From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: CSMSM Hey Yall Forgive my ignorance but... is MSM crystals sold on vet sites the same stuff as say organic etc, i ask cause its cheaper 2lb. $20.00 -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSMSM
Is it best to take MSM using the powder in a little water? It taste like shit in water but if its the best way to take it so be it I started taking MSM a few months ago and was told this place has the purest form of MSM...FWIW...But they only have it in powder/crystal form...not sure the different...but the stuff can be in hard chunks http://www.organicsulfur-msm.ca/index.html Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 10:42 AM Subject: Re: CSMSM I buy mine at msm-msm.com A nice lady in Arizona sells msm in bulk, at lower prices. Tel Tofflemire From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: CSMSM Hey Yall Forgive my ignorance but... is MSM crystals sold on vet sites the same stuff as say organic etc, i ask cause its cheaper 2lb. $20.00 -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSMSM
Some Vets Sell MSM to the public, also tac stores do too, but it is made for animals and my not be certified clean? I have used it in the past and found some dirt dust in it, but that was years ago and I am 72 and alive yet. Google msm-msm.com its the best. Tel Tofflemire From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: CSMSM Hey Yall Forgive my ignorance but... is MSM crystals sold on vet sites the same stuff as say organic etc, i ask cause its cheaper 2lb. $20.00 -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
CSIodine - Vit C
Thanks Chuck. So i will now have to shift my taking the iodine to noon time. I take the Vit C at night since it is a chelator also from what i learned. Melly
Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme
Rod CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has video on Utube as to how to make it. The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from Argeria. Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote: ** ** ** What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm? Will it take 10 years?* *** ** ** -- *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:**davedar...@gmail.com**] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme ** ** Jerry I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and dormant but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal from the damage that has been done. Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so. Dave On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi,, Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy. ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and CS. I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and how to increase dosage. Thanks Sandy ** ** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2617/5867 - Release Date: 11/01/12* ***
CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
The info I got re iodine was that it should be taken with Selenium and Selenomethionine form was the best for absorption.I get it from iHerb. Tried Knox gelatin first, in water,ghastly stuff;was put onto “Great Lakes Gelatin” O Bloom gelatin.Great stuff.Go for good old Googling .Have to order it by ‘phone tho.I get it in bulk,10 lbs at a time. Put it in my coffee ,2 tspns per cup,1 tspn in tea per cup, never know it’s there,add it to my soups.Helped get my walking cane out of my hand a few years ago,don’t need it now !! Best to all. Harold
CSWater Filter - Boron for Pre-treated Water
Hi Saralou, Did you make the boron sit in the water for a time before filtering? Thanks. Melly
Re: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
Harold = Where do you get your gelatin ? I Googled and one company supplies bovine, beef and porcine. (Amazon is expensive.) Which do you buy ? Smitty On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote: The info I got re iodine was that it should be taken with Selenium and Selenomethionine form was the best for absorption.I get it from iHerb. Tried Knox gelatin first, in water,ghastly stuff;was put onto “Great Lakes Gelatin” O Bloom gelatin.Great stuff.Go for good old Googling .Have to order it by ‘phone tho.I get it in bulk,10 lbs at a time. Put it in my coffee ,2 tspns per cup,1 tspn in tea per cup, never know it’s there,add it to my soups.Helped get my walking cane out of my hand a few years ago,don’t need it now !! Best to all. Harold
Re: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
Whatg are health benefits of gelatin?
Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme
Dave what stregnth/brand cs did you use? and did you get retested after? gretchen On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Rod CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has video on Utube as to how to make it. The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from Argeria. Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote: What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm? Will it take 10 years? From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme Jerry I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and dormant but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal from the damage that has been done. Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so. Dave On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi,, Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy. ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and CS. I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and how to increase dosage. Thanks Sandy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2617/5867 - Release Date: 11/01/12
Re: Fw: CSNail Hardener
vicki hood wrote:  Site is unbelievable. Way back in beauty culture class we poured formaldehyde from a gallon jug to sterilize our equipment. Morticians inject this liquid into corpses. Formaldehyde is also in vaccines. NOT A GAS THEN IS IT? Vicki Hood http://personalcaretruth.com/2010/08/exposing-the-formaldehyde-myth/ In the past I bought it in liquid form in a bottle from the local pharmacy. Plus, I've actually seen it in ingredient lists on nail enamel. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
Instead of buying Selenium I just eat a couple raw Brazil nuts or eat mustard greens. Both are the highest natural form. I try using gelatin in cookingbroths but getting it down otherwise was difficult. I do take iodine but still have nail problems. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:39:18 -0800 The info I got re iodine was that it should be taken with Selenium and Selenomethionine form was the best for absorption.I get it from iHerb. Tried Knox gelatin first, in water,ghastly stuff;was put onto “Great Lakes Gelatin” O Bloom gelatin.Great stuff.Go for good old Googling .Have to order it by ‘phone tho.I get it in bulk,10 lbs at a time. Put it in my coffee ,2 tspns per cup,1 tspn in tea per cup, never know it’s there,add it to my soups.Helped get my walking cane out of my hand a few years ago,don’t need it now !! Best to all. Harold
Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme
Gretchen I make my own -- Around 20 ppm I was tested later, about 8 years later and they found nothing. Of course testing being as it is, negative doesn't mean much. Dave On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, bodhipakkh...@gmail.com wrote: Dave what stregnth/brand cs did you use? and did you get retested after? gretchen On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Rod CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has video on Utube as to how to make it. The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from Argeria. Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote: ** ** ** What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm? Will it take 10 years? ** ** -- *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:**davedar...@gmail.com**] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme ** ** Jerry I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and dormant but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal from the damage that has been done. Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so. Dave On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi,, Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy. ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and CS. I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and how to increase dosage. Thanks Sandy ** ** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2617/5867 - Release Date: 11/01/12
Re: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
Diane, I much prefer food sources myself, but most soils are depleted of selenium these days and if so the nuts will not have much either. zoe From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012, 17:28 Subject: RE: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin Instead of buying Selenium I just eat a couple raw Brazil nuts or eat mustard greens. Both are the highest natural form. I try using gelatin in cooking broths but getting it down otherwise was difficult. I do take iodine but still have nail problems. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:39:18 -0800 The info I got re iodine was that it should be taken with Selenium and Selenomethionine form was the best for absorption.I get it from iHerb. Tried Knox gelatin first, in water,ghastly stuff;was put onto “Great Lakes Gelatin” O Bloom gelatin.Great stuff.Go for good old Googling .Have to order it by ‘phone tho.I get it in bulk,10 lbs at a time. Put it in my coffee ,2 tspns per cup,1 tspn in tea per cup, never know it’s there,add it to my soups.Helped get my walking cane out of my hand a few years ago,don’t need it now !! Best to all. Harold
Re: Fw: CSNail Hardener
urea formaldehyde resin has been a scourge in my life. But for nails, I think one could use a lacquer from art supplies to embed the anti fungal herbs and silver for sustained release. There are water based varnishes etc. On 11/6/2012 2:32 PM, sol wrote: vicki hood wrote:  Site is unbelievable. Way back in beauty culture class we poured formaldehyde from a gallon jug to sterilize our equipment. Morticians inject this liquid into corpses. Formaldehyde is also in vaccines. NOT A GAS THEN IS IT? Vicki Hood http://personalcaretruth.com/2010/08/exposing-the-formaldehyde-myth/ In the past I bought it in liquid form in a bottle from the local pharmacy. Plus, I've actually seen it in ingredient lists on nail enamel. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme
thanks for the info. On Nov 6, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Gretchen I make my own -- Around 20 ppm I was tested later, about 8 years later and they found nothing. Of course testing being as it is, negative doesn't mean much. Dave On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, bodhipakkh...@gmail.com wrote: Dave what stregnth/brand cs did you use? and did you get retested after? gretchen On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Rod CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has video on Utube as to how to make it. The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from Argeria. Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote: What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm? Will it take 10 years? From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme Jerry I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and dormant but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal from the damage that has been done. Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so. Dave On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi,, Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy. ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym M and CS. I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme and how to increase dosage. Thanks Sandy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2617/5867 - Release Date: 11/01/12
Re: Fw: CSNail Hardener
Jane MacRoss wrote: Try the one I posted - it's full of goodies, no nasties is in the US! Actually I probably should not be contributing to this thread, I don't need a nail hardener. I have vertical ridges, and some of those dents in my nails, but they are plenty hard and grow like weeds. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Fw: CSNail Hardener/formaldehyde
Iin the Melbourne Allergy Unit it was one of the most allergic chemicals we tested for Jane urea formaldehyde resin has been a scourge in my life. But for nails, I think one could use a lacquer from art supplies to embed the anti fungal herbs and silver for sustained release. There are water based varnishes etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Filter - Boron for Pre-treated Water
Melly, I mix it in hot tap water and add it to the water to be filtered. Sometimes I add it to the filtered water...but I generally make a solution. It just sits t here if I don't. On 11/6/2012 2:27 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Hi Saralou, Did you make the boron sit in the water for a time before filtering? Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVitamin C
It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off. By 12 hours there's very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and want to avoid bowel tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 hour mark you'd take an extra dose. Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours before starting the vit C schedule. The idodine would be used up long before it neutralised the Vit C because of the huge difference in quantities of the two consumed. Paul B On 11/5/2012 12:03:43 PM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote: How much is the megadosing of the Vit C, please? Is it true that vitamin C has a half life of half an hour? If so, can it allow users to supplement with iodine without the Iodine being cancelled out by C? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
