Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Jeffrey Bean]

Hello!  Where might this list be?
Ii don't want to miss the list and the politics on here are driving  me
nuts.

Thanks!

Jeffrey
Love is love

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 8:33 AM Rick  wrote:

> This woman really has no clue about anything. I know I shouldn't but she
> is like that irritant under the skin. Glad to see most of the rest of you
> at the new moderated silver group. Those who aren't won't find her
> annoyance there and it is quite refreshing!
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:24 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/
>>>
>>>
>>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>>
>>

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Pat K.]

So stop fooling with us losers and please just go away.

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to see some intelligence here but when all you have is name calling 
> it means you can't defend yourself. Why I fool with losers who don't have 
> enough sense to keep their own families safe is the real question. 
> 
> By intentional ignoring science, putting friends and family in danger as if 
> you don't know how a virus works, by fighting  kids wearing masks in schools 
> and letting politicians decide science instead of scientists you condemn 
> every one you love to serious illness and death. That's abuse and neglect. 
> 
> You are killing people over rumors just to be right.
> 
> Why are you on a colloidal silver list when you are so oblivious to basic 
> science? 
> 
> I've been called a lot of things without cause. Accused of being paid to 
> troll. You all are so out there, out of touch and dangerous to everyone 
> around you.
> 
> Go find your little club with the other science deniars and leave this list 
> be.
> 
> One day your families will hate you for what you've done. As if we need more 
> hate in the world. 
> 
> I will never step back when I can see how dangerous you are to the ones you 
> love. They won't either if they are still alive. You have made my life more 
> dangerous since I know about half the unmasked in stores are just as 
> delusional. 
> 
> This virus wouldn't be here killing more innocents if not for you lovers. Be 
> proud at the damage you cause. Idiots.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 1:04 PM Rick  > wrote:
> I'd like to see Chicken Little talk to all the parents of children who have 
> been severely harmed or killed by these shots and others claiming to keep 
> them healthy. I'd like to see her talk to the Dr. Richard Malone creator of 
> mRNA technology who said that this isn't right and we should not accept these 
> shots. I'd love to see her in an interview with Dr. Judy Mikovits
> herself! 
> 
> Just one person of substance who Chicken Little puts down because of what the 
> mass media and the newly funded Bill Gates crony fact-checkers who discredit 
> them with lies said on TV or in other owned mass media outlets have 
> said...These are people I'd like to see her have an open discussion with. 
> Why? because she can only parrot the lies we are being told from those 
> sources. And because Truths are not easily dismissed when you have the 
> irrefutable facts right in front of you (U.S. patent filings for the man-made 
> pandemics, victim testimonies, actual creator of the very technology being 
> used, etc, etc, etc).
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson  > wrote:
> Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
> How is Judy making money out of any of us 
> By speaking the truth ?
> Richard Atkinson
> atomicsil...@gmail.com 
> The Chaos Oasis 
> Belize
> 
> facebook 
> instagram 
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland > > wrote:
>> 
>> https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
>> nothing. Edmund Burke
> 

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Cyndiann Phillips]

I'd like to see some intelligence here but when all you have is name
calling it means you can't defend yourself. Why I fool with losers who
don't have enough sense to keep their own families safe is the real
question.

By intentional ignoring science, putting friends and family in danger as if
you don't know how a virus works, by fighting  kids wearing masks in
schools and letting politicians decide science instead of scientists you
condemn every one you love to serious illness and death. That's abuse and
neglect.

You are killing people over rumors just to be right.

Why are you on a colloidal silver list when you are so oblivious to basic
science?

I've been called a lot of things without cause. Accused of being paid to
troll. You all are so out there, out of touch and dangerous to everyone
around you.

Go find your little club with the other science deniars and leave this list
be.

One day your families will hate you for what you've done. As if we need
more hate in the world.

I will never step back when I can see how dangerous you are to the ones you
love. They won't either if they are still alive. You have made my life more
dangerous since I know about half the unmasked in stores are just as
delusional.

This virus wouldn't be here killing more innocents if not for you lovers.
Be proud at the damage you cause. Idiots.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 1:04 PM Rick  wrote:

> I'd like to see Chicken Little talk to all the parents of children who
> have been severely harmed or killed by these shots and others claiming to
> keep them healthy. I'd like to see her talk to the Dr. Richard Malone
> creator of mRNA technology who said that this isn't right and we should not
> accept these shots. I'd love to see her in an interview with Dr. Judy
> Mikovits
> herself!
>
> Just one person of substance who Chicken Little puts down because of what
> the mass media and the newly funded Bill Gates *crony fact-checkers* who
> discredit them with lies said on TV or in other owned mass media outlets
> have said...These are people I'd like to see her have an open discussion
> with. Why? because she can only parrot the lies we are being told from
> those sources. And because Truths are not easily dismissed when you have
> the irrefutable facts right in front of you (U.S. patent filings for the
> man-made pandemics, victim testimonies, actual creator of the very
> technology being used, etc, etc, etc).
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson 
> wrote:
>
>> Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
>> How is Judy making money out of any of us 
>> By speaking the truth ?
>> Richard Atkinson
>> atomicsil...@gmail.com
>> The Chaos Oasis 
>> Belize
>>
>> facebook 
>> instagram 
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/
>>>
>>>
>>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Toxicity to fish

[Cyndiann Phillips]

That is very true. Fish in an aquarium depend on the microorganisms in the
filter to keep the water clean. Upsetting that balance can cause them all
to die.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:11 PM Max  wrote:

> The abstracts I read suggest that silver is toxic to fish embryos and
> adult fish at relevant silver concentration levels. Nanoparticles appear
> less toxic than ions.  But the particles go everywhere, even the brain, and
> release ions.  A noted cause of mortality to adult fish is disruption of
> sodium uptake in the gills.  In embryos,  free radical damage and DNA
> damage cause distortions and dysfunction.
>
> If my goal is to kill microbes and fungi with silver, then I would want to
> somehow maximize the toxicity to certain life forms and reduce toxicity to
> a minimum for other life forms.  Capping with herb extracts seems like one
> promising approach.  Limiting doses to periods of time might be wise.
>
> a concentration of 3 ug/cm2 killed all the fish in this study
>
> Silver nanospheres are cytotoxic and genotoxic to fish cells
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20060603/
>
> 
> Bianchini et al believe that
>
> 'Acute silver toxicity in aquatic animals is a function of sodium uptake
> rate'
> Adalto Bianchini
>
> "the key mechanism of acute silver toxicity consists of reduction in Na+
> uptake by blockade of gill Na+,K+-ATPase;"
> 
> whereas Sayed et al find that  the toxicity of silver nanoparticles in C.
> gariepinus embryos is caused by oxidative stress and genotoxicity.  The
> embryos were distorted at the nanogram per liter level
>
> "Embryos were treated with (0, 25, 50, 75ng/L silver nanoparticles) in
> water."
> =
> Gagne et al report a difference in toxic mechanisms between nanoparticle
> and ions, with nanoparticle inducing lipid peroxidation, changes to genes
> and inflammation and dissolved Ag involved oxidative stress and protein
> stability
> 'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles to rainbow trout: a toxicogenomic
> approach'
> ==
> Asharani et al report distorted and malfunctioning fish embryos in
>
> 'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles in zebrafish models'
>
> "A concentration-dependent increase in mortality and hatching delay was
> observed in Ag-np treated embryos. Additionally, nanoparticle treatments
> resulted in concentration-dependent toxicity, typified by phenotypes that
> had abnormal body axes, twisted notochord, slow blood flow, pericardial
> edema and cardiac arrhythmia."
>
>
>
> On 8/23/2021 10:27 AM, Max wrote:
>
> Thanks Ode
>
> So what is the toxic level of silver in water to fish?  And the toxic
> level in drinking water to humans?
>
> Thanks
>
> Max
> On 8/23/2021 4:11 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill the
> fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver that did it]
>
>
>

Re: CS>

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Repetition is exactly what Trump used all the time. No facts, no reality,
he would just keep saying the same things over and over again. Now when he
mentions vaccinations his own followers booed him. He was the one that
started the rumor that people coming over the Mexican border were all sick
with covid too, and that the border was "wide open" when that's never been
true.


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/94163?xid=nl_covidupdate_2021-08-23=g1787146d0r_source=Sailthru_medium=email_campaign=DailyUpdate_082321_term=NL_Gen_Int_Daily_News_Update_active

 In related news, Mississippi officials said they are seeing a rise in
calls to poison control for people taking the version of ivermectin
intended for livestock, specifically for horse de-worming
.
(*ABC News*)

As of Monday at 8 a.m. EDT, the unofficial COVID-19 toll
 in the U.S. was 37,711,159 cases and
628,504 deaths, increases of over a million cases and 6,869 deaths from a
week ago.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 1:22 PM Rick  wrote:

> And what about all the Front Line Workers they have targeted first for
> these shots? They want there *not* *to* *be* *enough* Doctors, Nurses,
> and all the other essential healthcare workers to take care of these
> willing participants when they start arriving in the E.R.s  So that they
> can add this scare onto all the other crap they've spoon-fed us through
> mass media.
>
> That want to say that it is because of the unvaxxed even though pure logic
> would show otherwise. They are going for the weak-minded like Chicken
> Little here.
>
> *How liars create the ‘illusion of truth'*
> Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or
> not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda,
> says psychologist Tom Stafford.
> “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, *is the law of
> propaganda* often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels. Among
> psychologists, something like this is known as the *"illusion of truth"*
> effect.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:58 AM pal joey  wrote:
>
>> Since everyone who took the experimental gene therapy is a test subject,
>> to the tune of 160 million (even that is probably a lie) test subjects, we
>> all have direct stake in the outcome,  since our friends and families will
>> be affected. Since this "software of life" (Modernas pet name) is all so
>> new, and the catastrophe is quickly unfolding, we're still attempting to
>> learn how to deal with it, so yes, we're not 100% sure we can help, but we
>> try anyway.  Mikovitz  may be wrong, or she may be right. But no one has to
>> send her money; pine needle tea is easy to make. And the recipe is free and
>> popular.  If I was duped into getting the experimental gene therapy,  I
>> would be researching all the remedies I could,  instead of badgering the
>> people  who might be the only help I'll ever get. Flu season hasn't even
>> started yet,  and already the test subjects are crashing. If the trend
>> continues,  there won't be any Healthcare for anyone due to full and
>> overflowing hospitals.  You are obviously uninformed about what's going on.
>>
>

CS>CS sugar capping

[Max]

Rehana Parveen et al suggest that capping silver with sugar spares 
toxicity to host


Preparation of serum capped silver nanoparticles for selective killing 
of microbial cells sparing host cells

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-91031-7?utm_source=other_medium=other_content=null_campaign=JRCN_1_LW01_CN_SCIREP_article_paid_XMOL


and an inhalation study of silver in mice showed no cytotoxicity

In vivo studies on lung toxicity as a result of inhalation of subacute 
doses of AgNPs (3·3 mg m−3, 4 h d−1 for 10 days) in mice showed minimal 
pulmonary inflammation or cytotoxicity


The silver lining: towards the responsible and limited usage of silver
https://sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./jam.13525


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Re: CS>Toxicity to fish

[Max]

The abstracts I read suggest that silver is toxic to fish embryos and 
adult fish at relevant silver concentration levels. Nanoparticles appear 
less toxic than ions.  But the particles go everywhere, even the brain, 
and release ions.  A noted cause of mortality to adult fish is 
disruption of sodium uptake in the gills.  In embryos,  free radical 
damage and DNA damage cause distortions and dysfunction.


If my goal is to kill microbes and fungi with silver, then I would want 
to somehow maximize the toxicity to certain life forms and reduce 
toxicity to a minimum for other life forms.  Capping with herb extracts 
seems like one promising approach.  Limiting doses to periods of time 
might be wise.


a concentration of 3 ug/cm2 killed all the fish in this study

Silver nanospheres are cytotoxic and genotoxic to fish cells
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20060603/


Bianchini et al believe that

'Acute silver toxicity in aquatic animals is a function of sodium uptake 
rate'

Adalto Bianchini

"the key mechanism of acute silver toxicity consists of reduction in Na+ 
uptake by blockade of gill Na+,K+-ATPase;"


whereas Sayed et al find that  the toxicity of silver nanoparticles in 
C. gariepinus embryos is caused by oxidative stress and genotoxicity.  
The embryos were distorted at the nanogram per liter level


"Embryos were treated with (0, 25, 50, 75ng/L silver nanoparticles) in 
water."

=
Gagne et al report a difference in toxic mechanisms between nanoparticle 
and ions, with nanoparticle inducing lipid peroxidation, changes to 
genes and inflammation and dissolved Ag involved oxidative stress and 
protein stability
'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles to rainbow trout: a toxicogenomic 
approach'

==
Asharani et al report distorted and malfunctioning fish embryos in

'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles in zebrafish models'

"A concentration-dependent increase in mortality and hatching delay was 
observed in Ag-np treated embryos. Additionally, nanoparticle treatments 
resulted in concentration-dependent toxicity, typified by phenotypes 
that had abnormal body axes, twisted notochord, slow blood flow, 
pericardial edema and cardiac arrhythmia."




On 8/23/2021 10:27 AM, Max wrote:


Thanks Ode

So what is the toxic level of silver in water to fish?  And the toxic 
level in drinking water to humans?


Thanks

Max

On 8/23/2021 4:11 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the 
microbes...kill the fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it 
wasn't the silver that did it]

Re: CS>Toxicity, Inhalation

[Max]

Thanks Ode

So what is the toxic level of silver in water to fish?  And the toxic
level in drinking water to humans?

Thanks

Max

On 8/23/2021 4:11 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill
the fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver
that did it]

 Carbon Filters remove poop, urine and silver

Fungistop:

Specified Method of use:

  * The treatment cycle last for 5 days
  * Single application on the 1^st day of cycle
  * Partial water change must be done after every treatment cycle
  * Water change should be filtered over Activated Carbon for a period
of 24 hours
  * Re-dose may be done if no improvement is observed
  * Quarantine tanks: 5 ml to 20 l (without using biologically-active
filters and equipment)

When using this product, take note of the following:

  * The tank should be well aerated during the treatment process
  * All absorbent filter media (Activated Charcoal and synthetic
resins) should be removed


  * Do not use the product in tanks containing invertebrates (snails,
shrimps and other crustaceans)


On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max mailto:mperrau...@cox.net>> wrote:

Thanks Phil

I would like to more about the nanoparticle oxygen relationship.

To be fair, the citation I made, did not conclude that "silver is
toxic when inhaled".   As you saw, they had a section where no
negative endpoint was seen.  It was not a single study, it was a
review.  So one can see many, many studies on silver toxicity. 
Its obviously not a question of if, but rather how much. I think
everyone could agree with that, as everything reaches a toxic level.

Your link was essentially an ad.   I dont doubt silver can treat
fungal infections in fish.   Perhaps a time limited water
treatment is warranted.  But if we think raising the level of
silver in an aqua-system will never do harm, obviously thats
simple minded hubris.

keep the wisdom coming

Max

On 8/22/2021 3:36 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:

The Science article on which toxicity and inhalation of silver
vapors, nanoparticles, and dust is based is bogus.

It is junk science.  A hit piece.

One simply cannot scour the silver literature for only negative
information and write good/fair science.

The authors totally screwed up the silver nanoparticle/oxygen
relationship and failed to pursue research where CS shines,
like with cancer, heart, and body purification.

Also fish:

https://thesilveredge.com/using-colloidal-silver-in-your-fish-tank-or-aquarium/

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Max]

That slur piece on Mikovits only has one varifiable accusation; that 
retroviruses are found in vaccines.  Not only are retroviruses 
ubiquitous, and cause millions of dollars of loss in the development of 
vaccines, work has been going on to produce culture medium to avoid this 
problem.


I dont know how flaky Mikovits is.  We cant go on unsubstantiated hit 
pieces like that one on liebertpub.   In my humble opinion, she seems a 
little mentally hyper, as if her mind is covering too many things at 
once.  We have to recognize that everyones cognitive system works 
differently.  An extreme example is the savant syndrome.  Often geniuses 
or people in the forefront are reviled by their stick in the mud peers.  
Nobody is 100% right


===

references

Endogenous retroviruses as potential hazards for vaccines
Takayuki Miyazawa

 the use of cell culture to produce recombinant proteins is still 
susceptible to contamination with viruses. These contaminations cost 
millions of dollars to recover from,
Viral contamination in biologic manufacture and implications for 
emerging therapies

Paul W. Barone

mouse cells or human cell lines used for vaccine production could have 
been contaminated with a replicating variant of the XMRV precursors 
encoded by the mouse genome.

Of Mice and Men: On the Origin of XMRV
Antoinette Cornelia van der Kuyl,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3109487/


Retroviruses highly similar to MLLVs (xenotropic murine retrovirus 
related virus (XMRV) and Human Mouse retrovirus-like RetroViruses 
(HMRVs)) reported from patients suffering from prostate cancer (PC) and 
myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) raise the 
possibility that also humans have been infected.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22315600/


Endogenous retroviruses (ERVs) are integrated as DNA proviruses in the 
genomes of all mammalian species. Several ERVs are replication-competent 
and produced as fully infectious viruses from host cell. Thus, 
live-attenuated vaccines and biological substances have been prepared 
using the cell lines which may produce ERV. Indeed, we recently reported 
that several commercial live-attenuated vaccines for pets were 
contaminated with the infectious feline endogenous retrovirus, RD-114.
A new approach to establish a cell line with reduced risk of endogenous 
retroviruses

Aiko Fukuma

Risks linked to endogenous retroviruses for vaccine production: a 
general overview

Marie Dewannieux

Isolation of an infectious endogenous retrovirus in a proportion of live 
attenuated vaccines for pets

Takayuki Miyazawa

Contamination of live attenuated vaccines with an infectious feline 
endogenous retrovirus (RD-114 virus)


Rokusuke Yoshikawa


On 8/23/2021 5:16 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/AID.2020.0095 

May is the month when we and colleagues in our close-knit family of 
retrovirus researchers usually descend on the Cold Spring Harbor 
Laboratories on Long Island for a week of camaraderie and intense 
scientific discussion. It was at this meeting and others that the full 
scope of Judy Mikovits fraud and malfeasance became clear to the 
research community, so clear that we came to expect, if not hope that 
we would never have to hear her name again. Yet here she was popping 
up all over the right-wing news, reeling off a story of how COVID-19 
was the result of animal experimentation in the development of 
vaccines, and how vaccines themselves were contaminated with mouse 
retroviruses that were causing untold ills. Naturally this 
information, and her research in particular, was being suppressed by 
Big Pharma and the “corrupt mainstream scientists” on their payroll. 
And the villain of the piece is none other than Dr. Anthony Fauci, the 
head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and 
long-suffering clinical advisor to Trump's COVID-19 Taskforce. The 
trouble with this conspiracy theory is that not only is it 
demonstrably untrue, much of it derives from a scientific fraud that 
Mikovits and coworkers perpetrated in 2009.


If you don't read this entire article to the end you are a fraud too.

Re: CS>failed posts

[Dok Dallas]

Get Tested now, but No-Vaccine known for POST Gobbling-Viral~Gremlin?
Simply click here for official (3rd party) archive service and \@^@/ for Post.
http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html 

When Mike first set-up Silver-List@eskimo, he protected our members-mailPOST, 
with Free Archive provided, by joining  http://www.mail-archive.comand doing 
so, the Service became an official (phantom) Member of CS-List.Since 
1997/(98?)...any email posted to Silver-List was also safely Archived.
When checking out list-archive service...discovered Mike has (50pg) 
Limit?Problem being, when you use Link (posted above) archive stops in 
2006..?No-time to discuss 
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but with little bit of sweat talking/experimenting...you can get Total Access~
Rx-opinion,
Dok Dallas

P.S.  Many (including self) have experienced MPS Missing-Post-Syndromand CS 
members know EIS might work...also seems, TROLL is Immune? 
 








  

CS>

[pal joey]

Anthony Fauci "long suffering clinical advisor".Thanks for the
lolololololol!  Search: AZT HIV AIDS Fauci, and behold the beginnings
of his long suffering rehearsal for this biggest genocidal play in
history.

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Neville Munn]

Who gives a shit what you say.  LOL.


From: Cyndiann Phillips 
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2021 10:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits 
Ph.D. - Holisticgear

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/AID.2020.0095
May is the month when we and colleagues in our close-knit family of retrovirus 
researchers usually descend on the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratories on Long 
Island for a week of camaraderie and intense scientific discussion. It was at 
this meeting and others that the full scope of Judy Mikovits fraud and 
malfeasance became clear to the research community, so clear that we came to 
expect, if not hope that we would never have to hear her name again. Yet here 
she was popping up all over the right-wing news, reeling off a story of how 
COVID-19 was the result of animal experimentation in the development of 
vaccines, and how vaccines themselves were contaminated with mouse retroviruses 
that were causing untold ills. Naturally this information, and her research in 
particular, was being suppressed by Big Pharma and the “corrupt mainstream 
scientists” on their payroll. And the villain of the piece is none other than 
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious 
Disease and long-suffering clinical advisor to Trump's COVID-19 Taskforce. The 
trouble with this conspiracy theory is that not only is it demonstrably untrue, 
much of it derives from a scientific fraud that Mikovits and coworkers 
perpetrated in 2009.

If you don't read this entire article to the end you are a fraud too.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:59 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Judy is a fraud and that has been proven a long time ago. Judy was fired from 
her job as well. She has no reputation but you keep listening to frauds and you 
will die.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson 
mailto:atomicsil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
How is Judy making money out of any of us 
By speaking the truth ?
Richard Atkinson
atomicsil...@gmail.com
The Chaos Oasis
Belize

facebook
instagram

On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips 
mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
mailto:ironguard...@gmail.com>> wrote:

https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
nothing. Edmund Burke

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Cyndiann Phillips]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral

She had her study retracted because of fraud and nobody was ever able to
reproduce what she said would happen. This is really old news, over a year
old. Are you getting that desperate?

Take your bullshit to your new group and leave this one be for truth.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/AID.2020.0095
> May is the month when we and colleagues in our close-knit family of
> retrovirus researchers usually descend on the Cold Spring Harbor
> Laboratories on Long Island for a week of camaraderie and intense
> scientific discussion. It was at this meeting and others that the full
> scope of Judy Mikovits fraud and malfeasance became clear to the research
> community, so clear that we came to expect, if not hope that we would never
> have to hear her name again. Yet here she was popping up all over the
> right-wing news, reeling off a story of how COVID-19 was the result of
> animal experimentation in the development of vaccines, and how vaccines
> themselves were contaminated with mouse retroviruses that were causing
> untold ills. Naturally this information, and her research in particular,
> was being suppressed by Big Pharma and the “corrupt mainstream scientists”
> on their payroll. And the villain of the piece is none other than Dr.
> Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
> Disease and long-suffering clinical advisor to Trump's COVID-19 Taskforce.
> The trouble with this conspiracy theory is that not only is it demonstrably
> untrue, much of it derives from a scientific fraud that Mikovits and
> coworkers perpetrated in 2009.
>
> If you don't read this entire article to the end you are a fraud too.
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:59 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> Judy is a fraud and that has been proven a long time ago. Judy was fired
>> from her job as well. She has no reputation but you keep listening to
>> frauds and you will die.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
>>> How is Judy making money out of any of us 
>>> By speaking the truth ?
>>> Richard Atkinson
>>> atomicsil...@gmail.com
>>> The Chaos Oasis 
>>> Belize
>>>
>>> facebook 
>>> instagram 
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/


 *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
 do nothing. Edmund Burke*

>>>
>>>

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Cyndiann Phillips]

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/AID.2020.0095
May is the month when we and colleagues in our close-knit family of
retrovirus researchers usually descend on the Cold Spring Harbor
Laboratories on Long Island for a week of camaraderie and intense
scientific discussion. It was at this meeting and others that the full
scope of Judy Mikovits fraud and malfeasance became clear to the research
community, so clear that we came to expect, if not hope that we would never
have to hear her name again. Yet here she was popping up all over the
right-wing news, reeling off a story of how COVID-19 was the result of
animal experimentation in the development of vaccines, and how vaccines
themselves were contaminated with mouse retroviruses that were causing
untold ills. Naturally this information, and her research in particular,
was being suppressed by Big Pharma and the “corrupt mainstream scientists”
on their payroll. And the villain of the piece is none other than Dr.
Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Disease and long-suffering clinical advisor to Trump's COVID-19 Taskforce.
The trouble with this conspiracy theory is that not only is it demonstrably
untrue, much of it derives from a scientific fraud that Mikovits and
coworkers perpetrated in 2009.

If you don't read this entire article to the end you are a fraud too.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:59 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> Judy is a fraud and that has been proven a long time ago. Judy was fired
> from her job as well. She has no reputation but you keep listening to
> frauds and you will die.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson 
> wrote:
>
>> Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
>> How is Judy making money out of any of us 
>> By speaking the truth ?
>> Richard Atkinson
>> atomicsil...@gmail.com
>> The Chaos Oasis 
>> Belize
>>
>> facebook 
>> instagram 
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/
>>>
>>>
>>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Suramin the Covid Vaccine Antidote | As per Dr.Judy Mikovits Ph.D. - Holisticgear

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Judy is a fraud and that has been proven a long time ago. Judy was fired
from her job as well. She has no reputation but you keep listening to
frauds and you will die.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Richard Atkinson 
wrote:

> Cyndiann , you really do make the most ridiculous statements !!
> How is Judy making money out of any of us 
> By speaking the truth ?
> Richard Atkinson
> atomicsil...@gmail.com
> The Chaos Oasis 
> Belize
>
> facebook 
> instagram 
>
> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
>
> Dr.Judy Mikovits is a liar and is making money off you all.
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:51 PM T. J. Garland 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> https://holisticgear.com/suramin-the-covid-vaccine-antidote-as-per-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/
>>
>>
>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Toxicity, Inhalation

[Ode Coyote]

Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill the
fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver that did it]

 Carbon Filters remove poop, urine and silver

Fungistop:

Specified Method of use:

   - The treatment cycle last for 5 days
   - Single application on the 1st day of cycle
   - Partial water change must be done after every treatment cycle
   - Water change should be filtered over Activated Carbon for a period of
   24 hours
   - Re-dose may be done if no improvement is observed
   - Quarantine tanks: 5 ml to 20 l (without using biologically-active
   filters and equipment)

When using this product, take note of the following:

   - The tank should be well aerated during the treatment process
   - All absorbent filter media (Activated Charcoal and synthetic resins)
   should be removed



   - Do not use the product in tanks containing invertebrates (snails,
   shrimps and other crustaceans)


On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Thanks Phil
>
> I would like to more about the nanoparticle oxygen relationship.
>
> To be fair, the citation I made, did not conclude that "silver is toxic
> when inhaled".   As you saw, they had a section where no negative endpoint
> was seen.  It was not a single study, it was a review.  So one can see
> many, many studies on silver toxicity.  Its obviously not a question of if,
> but rather how much. I think everyone could agree with that, as everything
> reaches a toxic level.
>
> Your link was essentially an ad.   I dont doubt silver can treat fungal
> infections in fish.   Perhaps a time limited water treatment is warranted.
> But if we think raising the level of silver in an aqua-system will never do
> harm, obviously thats simple minded hubris.
>
> keep the wisdom coming
>
> Max
> On 8/22/2021 3:36 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>
> The Science article on which toxicity and inhalation of silver vapors,
> nanoparticles, and dust is based is bogus.
>
> It is junk science.  A hit piece.
>
> One simply cannot scour the silver literature for only negative
> information and write good/fair science.
>
> The authors totally screwed up the silver nanoparticle/oxygen relationship
> and failed to pursue research where CS shines,
> like with cancer, heart, and body purification.
>
> Also fish:
> https://thesilveredge.com/using-colloidal-silver-in-your-fish-tank-or-aquarium/
>
>

Re: CS>failed posts

[Ode Coyote]

Half of mine are in the spam folder

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 5:11 PM Diane Mackey  wrote:

> Max, when I post to the Silver list, I never see my post, unless someone
> replies to it and includes the original.  So I think Eskimo does not send
> emails to the author.
>
>
> Diane
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Many of my posts to the silver list dont make it.   There must be an
>> algorithm somewhere in the chain, perhaps my email service provider,
>> that does not allow certain posts to transmit.  URL of scientific papers
>> seems to be a flag which does not allow me to post.   But thats not
>> all.  Perhaps duplicate posts, as in tests, are not allowed.   Maybe
>> there are key words.  It seems to vary in time. Sometimes I can post and
>> other times it fails, even with the same content
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>>   Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
>>
>> Unsubscribe:
>>   
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>>
>>

Re: CS>failed posts

[Diane Mackey]

I do recall this being a problem for many in the past when they saw
replies, but not the original posts, and they would eventually show up but
not timely.  It must have to do with assumed spam because I find several
posts from Eskimo in my spam folder, so I always check that first before
reading my email.  I have never seen my posts on their own, just in replies.

Diane

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:03 PM Max  wrote:

> Thanks for that info.  Thing is, most of the time I DO see my posts.  I
> have three different email addresses and the posts show up at different
> times. Sometimes not at all.  Im assuming they dont actually make it
> through.   An example is the inhalation toxicity posts. I tried 3
> different versions of the post, until one made it.
>
> thanks
>
> Max
>
> On 8/22/2021 3:18 PM, Da Darrin wrote:
> > You are right, I have another address subscribed to the list, that I
> > look to to see what I just posted.
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:11 PM Diane Mackey 
> wrote:
> >> Max, when I post to the Silver list, I never see my post, unless
> someone replies to it and includes the original.  So I think Eskimo does
> not send emails to the author.
> >>
> >>
> >> Diane
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Max  wrote:
> >>> Many of my posts to the silver list dont make it.   There must be an
> >>> algorithm somewhere in the chain, perhaps my email service provider,
> >>> that does not allow certain posts to transmit.  URL of scientific
> papers
> >>> seems to be a flag which does not allow me to post.   But thats not
> >>> all.  Perhaps duplicate posts, as in tests, are not allowed.   Maybe
> >>> there are key words.  It seems to vary in time. Sometimes I can post
> and
> >>> other times it fails, even with the same content
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> >>>Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
> >>>
> >>> Unsubscribe:
> >>>
> >>> Archives:
> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
> >>>
> >>> Off-Topic discussions: 
> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour 
> >>>
> >>>
>
>