CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread Jason
Hi All,

I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.  Minutes
later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last long,
but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection or
lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
infection back.

Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others nebulize
at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

Thanks,
J.
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RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Judy Knowlton
Jason - I don't know what Argentyn 23 and RO water are, but I wouldn't care
to inhale them!
I do know that using standard CS (about 10 ppm made with distilled water) is
clean and safe.
Friends and I have used it for lung and sinus infections, colds, sore
throats etc. with never a problem
of adverse reaction -- a minute or 2 every half-hour seems to be adequate
for lung infections. Breathing the steam through the nostrils deals with
sinus or a head cold. CS nosedrops snuffled in every 15 minutes for 2 hours
usually kills off the most tenacious cold.
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:ja...@bulldoghome.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

Hi All,

I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.  Minutes
later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last long,
but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection or
lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
infection back.

Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others nebulize
at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

Thanks,
J.
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Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread Dee
Sorry, what is Argentyn 23 please?  I nebulize with EIS.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Jason
Date: 18/06/2008 12:42:52
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

Hi All,
 
I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.  Minutes
later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  

RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Dee
I think the RO is reverse osmosis water but the Argentyn23 can't be CS
because you can't use that with RO.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Judy Knowlton
Date: 18/06/2008 13:10:26
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?
 
Jason - I don't know what Argentyn 23 and RO water are, but I wouldn't care
to inhale them!
I do know that using standard CS (about 10 ppm made with distilled water) is
clean and safe.

Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread cking001
What comes to MY mind is that you were reacting to the die-off
products.(Herxheimer reaction)
I would have continued ingesting CS daily,(orally), as a prophylactic.

Chuck
Ignorance is bliss, but it'll never replace sex 

On 6/18/2008 7:39:34 AM, Jason (ja...@bulldoghome.com) wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
 lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
 diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.
 Minutes
 later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last long,
 but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
 carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection or
 lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
 infection back.
 
 Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
 out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others nebulize
 at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.
 
 Thanks,
 J.
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Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread bbanever
Argentyn 23 is sold in health food stores as Sovereign Silver.  It is a very 
high quality colloidal/ionic silver.  It is sold to medical professionals as 
Argentyn 23, but is the exact same product.  It is very pure with very small 
particles that are evenly distributed.  Very little to no clumping.One of 
the best commercial brands, but doesn't work any better than the homemade 
variety using a Silverpuppy or Silvergen model.  

Bob
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  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:35 AM
  Subject: RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?


I think the RO is reverse osmosis water but the Argentyn23 can't be CS 
because you can't use that with RO.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Judy Knowlton
Date: 18/06/2008 13:10:26
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

Jason - I don't know what Argentyn 23 and RO water are, but I wouldn't 
care
to inhale them!
I do know that using standard CS (about 10 ppm made with distilled 
water) is
clean and safe. 
  
   


Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread bbanever
Jason,

The dizziness probably would have occurred with any silver solution.  You 
should only nebulize for perhaps 30 seconds at a time.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?


Sorry, what is Argentyn 23 please?  I nebulize with EIS.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Jason
Date: 18/06/2008 12:42:52
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

Hi All,

I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting 
the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.  
Minutes
later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.   
  
   


Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Dee
But I thought I had read that that you shouldn't use reverse osmosis water
with CS, only pure distilled.  Is that wrong then?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: bbanever
Date: 18/06/2008 13:53:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?
 
Argentyn 23 is sold in health food stores as Sovereign Silver.  It is a
very high quality colloidal/ionic silver.  It is sold to medical
professionals as Argentyn 23, but is the exact same product.  It is very
pure with very small particles that are evenly distributed.  Very little to
no clumping.One of the best commercial brands, but doesn't work any
better than the homemade variety using a Silverpuppy or Silvergen model.  
 
Bob

RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread Judy Knowlton
Thank you - logical deduction, Chuck
JDM

-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

What comes to MY mind is that you were reacting to the die-off
products.(Herxheimer reaction)
I would have continued ingesting CS daily,(orally), as a prophylactic.

Chuck
Ignorance is bliss, but it'll never replace sex

On 6/18/2008 7:39:34 AM, Jason (ja...@bulldoghome.com) wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
 lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
 diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.
 Minutes
 later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last
long,
 but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
 carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection
or
 lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
 infection back.

 Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
 out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others
nebulize
 at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

 Thanks,
 J.
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Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread bbanever
Dee,

When you make colloidal/ionic silver you should use distilled water only.  
I believe this RO water was added to an already made solution to dilute it more.

Bob
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  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:00 AM
  Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?


But I thought I had read that that you shouldn't use reverse osmosis 
water with CS, only pure distilled.  Is that wrong then?  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: bbanever
Date: 18/06/2008 13:53:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

Argentyn 23 is sold in health food stores as Sovereign Silver.  It is 
a very high quality colloidal/ionic silver.  It is sold to medical 
professionals as Argentyn 23, but is the exact same product.  It is very pure 
with very small particles that are evenly distributed.  Very little to no 
clumping.One of the best commercial brands, but doesn't work any better 
than the homemade variety using a Silverpuppy or Silvergen model.  

Bob
   
  
   


Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

2008-06-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
I nebulize with 10 ppm EIS.  I have previously found 5 ppm HVAC CS to be 
effective as well.


Marshall

Jason wrote:

Hi All,

I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is
 infecting the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn
 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12. 
 Minutes

later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last
 long,
but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of
 dizziness
carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung
 infection or
lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the
 lung
infection back.

Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have
 got my old generator
out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what
 PPM do others nebulize
at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

Thanks,
J.
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Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Marshall Dudley

Dee wrote:
I think the RO is reverse osmosis water but the Argentyn23 can't be CS 
because you can't use that with RO.  Dee
 
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ Judy Knowlton mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com

/*Date:*/ 18/06/2008 13:10:26
/*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
/*Subject:*/ RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?
 
Jason - I don't know what Argentyn 23 and RO water are, but I wouldn't 
care

to inhale them!
I do know that using standard CS (about 10 ppm made with distilled 
water) is

clean and safe.



Huh? What would prevent someone from mixing CS with RO water?  RO water 
is very close to distilled water, and will mix fine with CS.


Marshall


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Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Dee
This is what I thought.  Thanks Bob.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: bbanever
Date: 18/06/2008 15:37:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?
 
Dee,
 
When you make colloidal/ionic silver you should use distilled water only
  I believe this RO water was added to an already made solution to dilute it
more.
 
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Dee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?


But I thought I had read that that you shouldn't use reverse osmosis water
with CS, only pure distilled.  Is that wrong then?  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: bbanever
Date: 18/06/2008 13:53:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?
 
Argentyn 23 is sold in health food stores as Sovereign Silver.  It is a
very high quality colloidal/ionic silver.  It is sold to medical
professionals as Argentyn 23, but is the exact same product.  It is very
pure with very small particles that are evenly distributed.  Very little to
no clumping.One of the best commercial brands, but doesn't work any
better than the homemade variety using a Silverpuppy or Silvergen model.  
 
Bob
 



 

Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread Dee
In the making of it?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 

Huh? What would prevent someone from mixing CS with RO water?  RO water
is very close to distilled water, and will mix fine with CS.
 
Marshall
 
 
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RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread bob Larson
...i've posted several time about RO water in the last few months since i
upgraded my filter system, but there's no message archives available to
search on this list.  you don't want to use it to make CS unless you have
de-ionizer cartridges as part of the system.  using RO water to dilute CS
for some immediate use isn't so bad.  using it to make CS when it's the best
available alternative isn't so awful bad either, but for the long run add
de-ionizer cartridges and get a good meter to check it, or use distilled.
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From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?


But I thought I had read that that you shouldn't use reverse osmosis water
with CS, only pure distilled.  Is that wrong then?  Dee - what PPM? -- and
what else?


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RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

2008-06-18 Thread bob Larson
...it's been my understanding that argentyn23 is only available by
prescription and is injectible, used for IV, so there's probably significant
differences between it and sovereign silver.
  -Original Message-
  From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:53 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?


  Argentyn 23 is sold in health food stores as Sovereign Silver.  It is a
very high quality colloidal/ionic silver.  It is sold to medical
professionals as Argentyn 23, but is the exact same product.  It is very
pure with very small particles that are evenly distributed.  Very little to
no clumping.One of the best commercial brands, but doesn't work any
better than the homemade variety using a Silverpuppy or Silvergen model.

  Bob