Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-03 Thread Stuff
Why didn't these folks (or damn near anyone) go offshore with their website 
or hookup to a distributed network

to avoid censorship?

What will u do when they come for u? (a generic AND personal question)

Doesn't anyone see coming what I see coming?

BTW, don't expect me to answer questions like: What do u see coming?


At 05:27 PM 10/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:

urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags
Greetings, all:

As I mentioned previously, I have secured all of the data from 
altcancer.com, which is now offline.  The staff of Alpha Omega Labs has 
asked me to make available, at this time, two informational documents for 
public viewing, which, the principal interests being in jail currently, 
truly reach very close to home!


I have added a statement and links @ silvermedicine.org

http://www.silvermedicine.orghttp://www.silvermedicine.org
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lysis.htm
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lsysis5.htmhttp://www.silvermedicine.org/http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lsysis5.htmaltcancer/lsysis5.htm

I have no problem, if it becomes necessary, making the entire website 
available on a CD.  However, I'd like to ask to hold off on that a bit, as 
I will have to redo much of the linking structure of the website, as some 
of the images and hyperlinks are referenced via their actual domain name ( 
known as an absolute url rather than a relative url )-- this means if I 
burn a CD as is, quite a few of the images and links will show as being 
broken even though the images and files are actually present, because 
the browser will be looking for the images on Alpha Omega's altcancer.com 
website, which currently no longer exists.


Going through the files I've saved, every once in a long while I come 
across an image that wasn't downloaded for one reason or another ( 
probably a server hickup ), but everything is intact.  If I have to change 
all of the link and image references so that they work properly from a 
local source ( such as a CD ), this will not be a problem.  However, all 
of this will hopefully not be necessary.  As it stands, viewing the site 
from a local hard drive, another server, or a CD results in broken links 
and broken images.


I would prefer to see how things pan out, and have offered to make the 
complete website available online as an independent and non-materially 
linked party.  In this scenario, the Alpha Omega Labs name would have to 
be removed from the information, and substituted with something like 
information about Alpha Omega Labs Products...  Or a similiar arrangment, 
minus the store.


In fact, it was alot easier for me to simply upload the whole website 
rather than just a few files ( just a few clicks rather than a few dozen 
clicks ), and being the lazy individual I am, I just renamed the main 
index page to z9_index.htm so that nobody would be ever be able to figure 
out what the old index page was, and so that nobody would be able access 
any of the other pages which are present on the server.  After all, nobody 
would be able to guess that all the files ( not the videos or a few 
subdirectories, but all of the data ) are actually in the subdirectory 
altcancer on the silvermedicine.org domain.  Accessing these files is NOT 
permitted by the public, is NOT available from a publically linked access 
point, is NOT authorized by anyone, and constitutes a breach of my server 
privacy and unauthorized use of my bandwidth, and it is going to make me 
VERY upset if anyone accesses them.


I would like to wait to see what strategy Alpha Omega Labs wants to go 
with before writing them-- and their website -- as completely done with.


Best Regards,

Jason



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RE: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-02 Thread Cliff
Some people sell it in the USA for about 15 dollars a quart. Look on the
internet for a local supply. You should be able to buy a silver maker
for a little over 100 dollars in the USA.
 
-Original Message-
From: Cliff [mailto:ch...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing
 
Buy a good silver maker and make your own product. Also go on the
internet ald look for good article on silver, especially good books on
silver. You will be needing a lot of it. Buy Dr. Norman Walker's book on
DMSO. You will find that on Google search. You will also have great
success if you look for the books by Dr. Norman Walker. Since TIME is
what you will be most short of, you will have to act quickly.
 
I believe it was in Better Homes And Gardens that I saw an article by
one of the people with that magazine. He or she had cancer and found out
that idf you are serious about getting wel, or getting anyone else well
- you had better be prepared to be your own doctor.
 
Cliff.
 
-Original Message-
From: Me [mailto:kath...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing
 
 
I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have
messed up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to
my husband having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I would
receive it or should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help would
be appreciated. Love the list and it's discussion. As you can see I need
a lot of help. Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the individual
who made us our generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of the problem.
Am I to take the yellow or should it just be discarded. Thanks again,
Norma  kath...@pacbell.net


CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Me

  I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have
messed up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to my
husband having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I would receive
it or should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help would be
appreciated. Love the list and it's discussion. As you can see I need a lot
of help. Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the individual who made us
our generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of the problem. Am I to take the
yellow or should it just be discarded. Thanks again, Norma
kath...@pacbell.net


Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread M. G. Devour
Norma wrote:

 Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the individual who made us our
 generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of the problem. Am I to take
 the yellow or should it just be discarded. 

The yellow is perfectly usable, Norma. Don't throw it away. Learn from 
the experts and continue experimenting to refine what you're doing, but 
don't hesitate for a moment to use what you have now. It works. It 
doesn't have to be perfect.

Use a lot.

Be well,

Mike D.


[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Acmeair
I called Nassau, talked to a Miss Julie, and she sent me this. Sorry.,Jim

  We are unable to help you.  We do not have the products and are unable to 
answer any questions at this time.  Please read the letter listed below 
regarding our current situation and refer to our web site for any additional 
information on products.

  Jayde Williams, 
  Customer Relations Specialist
  Alpha Omega Labs
  (888) 220-6780
  ja...@altcancer.com
  www.altcancer.com

  Dear Alpha Omega Customer,

   

  At this time we are unable to provide you with the following products:

   

  Agaricus Drops

  Agaricus Extract

  Alpha Omega III Dentifrice

  Aloe Vera Acemannan

  Andrographis Paniculata

  Andrographis Plus

  Anti-Plague

  AO Bone Builder

  AO Bioentergized Flaxseed

  AO Heart Drops

  Artemis

  Artemis II

  Beta Glucan

  Beta Glucan Plus

  Blenheim Apricot Seeds

  Bloodroot Paste

  Co-Q-10

  Coral Calcium Plus

  Cansema Salve (all)

  Cansema Tonic I

  Cansema Tonic III




  Cansema Capsules

  CanSupport Capsules (all)

  Clean Colon

  Ecomed Electronic Normalizer

  Ellagic Acid

  Emu Oil

  Enchanted Ruins (all clays)

  Gotas Drops

  H3O Products

  HRx Products

  Joint Relief

  Lugol's Iodine

  Microflora Restore 

  Old Amish Dewormer

  Olive Leaf Powder

  Olive Leaf Extract

  Omega LB

  Omega UR

  Phyto Rx Tinctures (all)

  Suppositories (all)

  Tomsk (all models)

  The Duna Sputnik

   


  At 9:10 a.m. on Wednesday, September 17th, 2003 the Federal Drug 
Administration (FDA) suspended most activities at our fulfillment center in 
Louisiana.  They have deemed the above products questionable in the United 
States of America.  They believe that our products are not safe for human 
consumption.  The FDA is currently testing the products they have taken from 
our facility.  They have accused us of making health claims for our products, 
such as claiming they could cure, prevent or treat a disease even though we 
have a disclaimer on almost every page and each product label stating: To U.S. 
Users Only: The statements made on this page have not been evaluated by the 
U.S. Food  Drug Administration.  The viewing of this page in your country is 
for historic and educational purposes only. This product is not intended to 
diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.



  If you are satisfied with our products and their usefulness in helping to 
maintain your health and well being, please forward a signed testimonial to 
supp...@altcancer.com.  We would appreciate if you would contact your local 
congressman to help in the amendment of the current laws which prevent you from 
obtaining the alternative health products that Alpha Omega and other companies 
offer.

   

  You can also contact the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to petition 
the FDA by using the contact numbers below:

   

  FDA Toll Free Number:  1-888-INFO-FDA (1-888-463-6332)

  FDA Web Address: www.fda.gov

  To Petition the FDA:

  http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/voice.html

   


  The products that we are allowed to sell and ship are: Aqua Marine Life 
Force, Stevia Extract, Transfer Fact Rx, Andrographis, Andrographis Plus, 
Protocel Pro Enzymes, Protocel ProGe-132, Essex Botanical, Hoxsiac, Mojave 
Nectar, Shilajit, pH strips, Kavakosh, Shen Min Products, Raiza Crème, QuikHeal 
Blue, QuikHeal Green, all Neem Products, Reforma CCVI, Vitalio Body Fat 
Analyzer, Anorex and Anorex SF.

   

  If you have any other questions or comments, please do not hesitate to 
contact us.


 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Me 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:54 AM
  Subject: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing



I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have messed 
up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to my husband 
having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I would receive it or 
should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help would be appreciated. Love 
the list and it's discussion. As you can see I need a lot of help. Got yellow 
cs last time, and clear from the individual who made us our generator. Haven't 
gotten to the bottom of the problem. Am I to take the yellow or should it just 
be discarded. Thanks again, Norma  kath...@pacbell.net

Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I heard from the company this morning.  The man I have corresponded 
with as James Carr  has, the company tells me,  is also known as Greg 
Caton.   Why two names I do not know.   Anyway, he is in jail and will 
not be released I am told.


The company has no products anywhere,  the correspondent writes.

I think this is bad news.   As for the need for two names for 
Carr/Caton,  I have no idea about that and hope to find out more.I 
do not like the sound of that, frankly.All the same,  I know that 
some of the products work very well, exactly as claimed.




On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 00:54 Asia/Tokyo, Me wrote:


 

I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have 
messed up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to 
my husband having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I 
would receive it or should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help 
would be appreciated. Love the list and it's discussion. As you can 
see I need a lot of help. Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the 
individual who made us our generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of 
the problem. Am I to take the yellow or should it just be discarded. 
Thanks again, Norma  kath...@pacbell.net




Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jason Eaton
Greetings, all:

As I mentioned previously, I have secured all of the data from altcancer.com, 
which is now offline.  The staff of Alpha Omega Labs has asked me to make 
available, at this time, two informational documents for public viewing, which, 
the principal interests being in jail currently, truly reach very close to home!

I have added a statement and links @ silvermedicine.org

http://www.silvermedicine.org
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lysis.htm
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lsysis5.htm

I have no problem, if it becomes necessary, making the entire website available 
on a CD.  However, I'd like to ask to hold off on that a bit, as I will have to 
redo much of the linking structure of the website, as some of the images and 
hyperlinks are referenced via their actual domain name ( known as an absolute 
url rather than a relative url )-- this means if I burn a CD as is, quite a few 
of the images and links will show as being broken even though the images and 
files are actually present, because the browser will be looking for the images 
on Alpha Omega's altcancer.com website, which currently no longer exists.

Going through the files I've saved, every once in a long while I come across an 
image that wasn't downloaded for one reason or another ( probably a server 
hickup ), but everything is intact.  If I have to change all of the link and 
image references so that they work properly from a local source ( such as a CD 
), this will not be a problem.  However, all of this will hopefully not be 
necessary.  As it stands, viewing the site from a local hard drive, another 
server, or a CD results in broken links and broken images.

I would prefer to see how things pan out, and have offered to make the complete 
website available online as an independent and non-materially linked party.  In 
this scenario, the Alpha Omega Labs name would have to be removed from the 
information, and substituted with something like information about Alpha Omega 
Labs Products...  Or a similiar arrangment, minus the store.

In fact, it was alot easier for me to simply upload the whole website rather 
than just a few files ( just a few clicks rather than a few dozen clicks ), and 
being the lazy individual I am, I just renamed the main index page to 
z9_index.htm so that nobody would be ever be able to figure out what the old 
index page was, and so that nobody would be able access any of the other pages 
which are present on the server.  After all, nobody would be able to guess that 
all the files ( not the videos or a few subdirectories, but all of the data ) 
are actually in the subdirectory altcancer on the silvermedicine.org domain.  
Accessing these files is NOT permitted by the public, is NOT available from a 
publically linked access point, is NOT authorized by anyone, and constitutes a 
breach of my server privacy and unauthorized use of my bandwidth, and it is 
going to make me VERY upset if anyone accesses them.

I would like to wait to see what strategy Alpha Omega Labs wants to go with 
before writing them-- and their website -- as completely done with.

Best Regards,

Jason



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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jack Dayton
Jonathan B. Britten   10/1/03 5:03 PM  Wrote:

 Anyway, he is in jail and will not be released I am told.
***
He got a life sentence?

Jack

Be Nice


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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

List,

I think I can speak for everyone here  when I say  thank you to Jason 
for capturing the extensive and priceless pages from the altcancer.com  
web site prior to the unconscionable shut-down of the site.


I am certain of very few things in this world,  but I am fairly sure 
that if this information is separated from the sale of the (excellent 
and effective) products,  no one in the USA will be able to suppress 
the information.   There are constitutional freedoms of free speech 
guaranteed even under the current regime.


I note that unlike some other companies recently under FDA scrutiny,  
altcancer has  clear labels of all ingredients on the products,  which 
means that the basic recipes for most of the proprietary products are 
known to us, which is good news indeed.If worse comes to worse,  
perhaps we will be able to get detailed instructions for producing some 
of these fine,  effective anti-cancer substances, such as the Cancema 
salve. But I do hope the products will be available again in time.


I watched the entire online video about the Hoxey clinics some months 
ago,  and was impressed by it.   I recall being particularly amused by 
a middle-aged Middle American woman who'd had a huge tumor in her arm 
removed by a surgeon,  only to have the growth return.  Her MD wanted 
to remove her arm.  She decided to go to Tijuana, Mexico,  to the Hoxey 
clinic.   As she recounted her conversation with her furious American 
MD:


They will just take all of your money,  the surgeon said.

They can't,  the woman replied.   You already did. 

According to the video,  the woman received the same sort of escharotic 
herbal treatment sold by altcancer as Cancema Salve,  and within a few 
weeks the tumor was destroyed and fell out of her arm.Her cost for 
a two-week stay was about $1,500,  if memory serves me.


Many similar testimonials are meticulously documented in the altcancer 
pages that Jason, bless him,  has salvaged at the last moment.


JBB







On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 09:27 Asia/Tokyo, Jason Eaton wrote:


Greetings, all:
 
As I mentioned previously, I have secured all of the data from 
altcancer.com, which is now offline.  The staff of Alpha Omega Labs 
has asked me to make available, at this time, two informational 
documents for public viewing, which, the principal interests being in 
jail currently, truly reach very close to home!

 
I have added a statement and links @ silvermedicine.org
 
http://www.silvermedicine.org
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lysis.htm
http://www.silvermedicine.org/altcancer/lsysis5.htm
 
I have no problem, if it becomes necessary, making the entire website 
available on a CD.  However, I'd like to ask to hold off on that a 
bit, as I will have to redo much of the linking structure of the 
website, as some of the images and hyperlinks are referenced via their 
actual domain name ( known as an absolute url rather than a relative 
url )-- this means if I burn a CD as is, quite a few of the images and 
links will show as being broken even though the images and files are 
actually present, because the browser will be looking for the images 
on Alpha Omega's altcancer.com website, which currently no longer 
exists.

 
Going through the files I've saved, every once in a long while I come 
across an image that wasn't downloaded for one reason or another ( 
probably a server hickup ), but everything is intact.  If I have to 
change all of the link and image references so that they work properly 
from a local source ( such as a CD ), this will not be a problem.  
However, all of this will hopefully not be necessary.  As it stands, 
viewing the site from a local hard drive, another server, or a CD 
results in broken links and broken images.

 
I would prefer to see how things pan out, and have offered to make the 
complete website available online as an independent and non-materially 
linked party.  In this scenario, the Alpha Omega Labs name would have 
to be removed from the information, and substituted with something 
like information about Alpha Omega Labs Products...  Or a similiar 
arrangment, minus the store.

 
In fact, it was alot easier for me to simply upload the whole website 
rather than just a few files ( just a few clicks rather than a few 
dozen clicks ), and being the lazy individual I am, I just renamed the 
main index page to z9_index.htm so that nobody would be ever be able 
to figure out what the old index page was, and so that nobody would be 
able access any of the other pages which are present on the server.  
After all, nobody would be able to guess that all the files ( not the 
videos or a few subdirectories, but all of the data ) are actually in 
the subdirectory altcancer on the silvermedicine.org domain.  
Accessing these files is NOT permitted by the public, is NOT available 
from a publically linked access point, is NOT authorized by anyone, 
and constitutes a breach of my server privacy and unauthorized use of 

Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jason Eaton
Jonathan:

I wouldn't be too alarmed at the use of an alias.  I have many aliases I 
utilize in the world, and there are many legitimate and non-sinister reasons 
for doing so, including protecting other interests that may be in conflict with 
various projects...  Including protecting stock-holders interests, venture 
capital, etc...  It's not always an ominous sign.

I believe those with metaphysical training can tell alot about the man James 
Carr who calls himself a phytochemist, by looking at his picture, as founder 
of Lumen Foods Inc.:

http://www.soybean.com/assault1.htm

and

http://www.soybean.com/bio.htm

Being a supporter of genetically altered food ( as an example ), is at odds 
with the ideologies that many carry in the natural medicine world.  It would 
not be wise nor prudent to mix apples with oranges, in this case.  Greg's 
stance on all issues he believes in is:  Authentic, passionate, well thought 
out, well documented, and above all sincere and intelligently executed.  Alpha 
Omega labs is unparalleled in their pursuit of information, knowledge, 
correspondance, and an extraordinary willingness to work with doctors... the 
list is endless.

I've had the privelege of corresponding with him at a very deep level on many 
occassions, topics ranging from advanced Tesla technology, standing wave and 
holoform technology, advanced cancer treatment, etc.  Which is excellent, as I 
have benefitted from his experience, thoughts, and intellegence...  Which is.. 
uncomfortable, since the federal goverment now has a copy of all private 
correspondance from his computer system!  Well, you know what they say:  You 
only live once.

I have no idea how they messed up their business so badly, thinking that a 
business based out of the Bahamas was going to insulate their operations in 
Louisiana.  If I would have known, I would have attempted ( possibly in vain? ) 
to convince them to fully insulate themselves, or comply with FDA and FTC 
requirements.

However, the exact same thing can be said about several prominent manufacturers 
of colloidal silver products today.  HEED WELL:  The first warning letter to 
them that I found was, I believe in 1989.

It would be wise, especially now ( we issued a warning to our alt med 
associates about eight months ago ), for retail producers to remember the case 
of the US Federal Goverment against James Kimball ( DEDI ).

With Best Regards,

Jason





  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Britten 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing


  I heard from the company this morning. The man I have corresponded with as 
James Carr has, the company tells me, is also known as Greg Caton. Why two 
names I do not know. Anyway, he is in jail and will not be released I am told. 

  The company has no products anywhere, the correspondent writes. 

  I think this is bad news. As for the need for two names for Carr/Caton, I 
have no idea about that and hope to find out more. I do not like the sound of 
that, frankly. All the same, I know that some of the products work very well, 
exactly as claimed. 



  On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 00:54 Asia/Tokyo, Me wrote:




I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have messed 
up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to my husband 
having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I would receive it or 
should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help would be appreciated. Love 
the list and it's discussion. As you can see I need a lot of help. Got yellow 
cs last time, and clear from the individual who made us our generator. Haven't 
gotten to the bottom of the problem. Am I to take the yellow or should it just 
be discarded. Thanks again, Norma  kath...@pacbell.net



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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Jason,

Thanks again.  It is good to know the identity of the person for whom I 
am speaking out.


I suggested today in e-mail correspondence that the company set up a 
PayPal account for donations.   I will give something.   However,  it 
is good to know that Greg Caton has a mulit-million dollar food 
company;  certainly,  revenues from that enterprise will keep him from 
falling into poverty during his troubles with the FDA.   That is good 
news.



JBB




On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 10:51 Asia/Tokyo, Jason Eaton wrote:


Jonathan:
 
I wouldn't be too alarmed at the use of an alias.  I have many aliases 
I utilize in the world, and there are many legitimate and non-sinister 
reasons for doing so, including protecting other interests that may be 
in conflict with various projects...  Including protecting 
stock-holders interests, venture capital, etc...  It's not always an 
ominous sign.

 
I believe those with metaphysical training can tell alot about the man 
James Carr who calls himself a phytochemist, by looking at his 
picture, as founder of Lumen Foods Inc.:

 
http://www.soybean.com/assault1.htm
 
and
 
http://www.soybean.com/bio.htm
 
Being a supporter of genetically altered food ( as an example ), is at 
odds with the ideologies that many carry in the natural medicine 
world.  It would not be wise nor prudent to mix apples with oranges, 
in this case.  Greg's stance on all issues he believes in is:  
Authentic, passionate, well thought out, well documented, and above 
all sincere and intelligently executed.  Alpha Omega labs is 
unparalleled in their pursuit of information, knowledge, 
correspondance, and an extraordinary willingness to work with 
doctors... the list is endless.

 
I've had the privelege of corresponding with him at a very deep level 
on many occassions, topics ranging from advanced Tesla technology, 
standing wave and holoform technology, advanced cancer treatment, 
etc.  Which is excellent, as I have benefitted from his experience, 
thoughts, and intellegence...  Which is.. uncomfortable, since the 
federal goverment now has a copy of all private correspondance from 
his computer system!  Well, you know what they say:  You only live 
once.

 
I have no idea how they messed up their business so badly, thinking 
that a business based out of the Bahamas was going to insulate their 
operations in Louisiana.  If I would have known, I would have 
attempted ( possibly in vain? ) to convince them to fully insulate 
themselves, or comply with FDA and FTC requirements.

 
However, the exact same thing can be said about several prominent 
manufacturers of colloidal silver products today.  HEED WELL:  The 
first warning letter to them that I found was, I believe in 1989.

 
It would be wise, especially now ( we issued a warning to our alt med 
associates about eight months ago ), for retail producers to remember 
the case of the US Federal Goverment against James Kimball ( DEDI ).

 
With Best Regards,
 
Jason
 
 
 
 
 

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

I heard from the company this morning. The man I have corresponded 
with as James Carr has, the company tells me, is also known as Greg 
Caton. Why two names I do not know. Anyway, he is in jail and will not 
be released I am told.


The company has no products anywhere, the correspondent writes.

I think this is bad news. As for the need for two names for 
Carr/Caton, I have no idea about that and hope to find out more. I do 
not like the sound of that, frankly. All the same, I know that some of 
the products work very well, exactly as claimed.




On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 00:54 Asia/Tokyo, Me wrote:



I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have 
messed up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to 
my husband having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I 
would receive it or should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help 
would be appreciated. Love the list and it's discussion. As you can 
see I need a lot of help. Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the 
individual who made us our generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of 
the problem. Am I to take the yellow or should it just be discarded. 
Thanks again, Norma  kath...@pacbell.net



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RE: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Cliff
Buy a good silver maker and make your own product. Also go on the
internet ald look for good article on silver, especially good books on
silver. You will be needing a lot of it. Buy Dr. Norman Walker's book on
DMSO. You will find that on Google search. You will also have great
success if you look for the books by Dr. Norman Walker. Since TIME is
what you will be most short of, you will have to act quickly.
 
I believe it was in Better Homes And Gardens that I saw an article by
one of the people with that magazine. He or she had cancer and found out
that idf you are serious about getting wel, or getting anyone else well
- you had better be prepared to be your own doctor.
 
Cliff.
 
-Original Message-
From: Me [mailto:kath...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing
 
 
I am unable to keep up with all the posts..so I think I may have
messed up here. I just ordered some of their product last night due to
my husband having skin and prostate cancer. Is there any chance I would
receive it or should I just order it from the Bahama's. Any help would
be appreciated. Love the list and it's discussion. As you can see I need
a lot of help. Got yellow cs last time, and clear from the individual
who made us our generator. Haven't gotten to the bottom of the problem.
Am I to take the yellow or should it just be discarded. Thanks again,
Norma  kath...@pacbell.net


Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Dean Miller
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:51:42 -0700, Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net
wrote:

I've had the privelege of corresponding with him at a very deep level on many 
occassions, topics ranging from advanced Tesla technology, standing wave and 
holoform technology, advanced cancer treatment, etc.  Which is excellent, as I 
have benefitted from his experience, thoughts, and intellegence...  Which is.. 
uncomfortable, since the federal goverment now has a copy of all private 
correspondance from his computer system!  Well, you know what they say:  You 
only live once.

Wow, Greg Caton??

I've also had a bit of correspondence with him, mainly about soybeans
and how he processes them and the manufacturing problems he had (we
talked as well via radio -- we're both ham operators and we were into
setting up a survival radio network prior to 1/1/2000).

The Feds are really starting to get to me!

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Jason Eaton
Dean:

Yes - Ironic isn't it?  Greg Caton, aka James Carr of Alpha Omega Labs.

Best Regards,

Jason

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing


 On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:51:42 -0700, Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net
 wrote:

 I've had the privelege of corresponding with him at a very deep level on
many occassions, topics ranging from advanced Tesla technology, standing
wave and holoform technology, advanced cancer treatment, etc.  Which is
excellent, as I have benefitted from his experience, thoughts, and
intellegence...  Which is.. uncomfortable, since the federal goverment now
has a copy of all private correspondance from his computer system!  Well,
you know what they say:  You only live once.

 Wow, Greg Caton??

 I've also had a bit of correspondence with him, mainly about soybeans
 and how he processes them and the manufacturing problems he had (we
 talked as well via radio -- we're both ham operators and we were into
 setting up a survival radio network prior to 1/1/2000).

 The Feds are really starting to get to me!

 -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSRE: altcancer.com and orderiing

2003-10-01 Thread Dean Miller
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:49:44 -0700, Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net
wrote:

Yes - Ironic isn't it?  Greg Caton, aka James Carr of Alpha Omega Labs.

I ordered stuff from Lumen (some of it I liked, other stuff wasn't my
style :)  and I also ordered from Alpha Omega Labs.  The quality from
both was good, IMO.  And the prices from Alpha Omega were great!

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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