Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Ozone kills it in vivo, and what's more a client can self-treat at home if he chooses to. There are even people doing their own ozone IVs out there. ciao Duncan - Original Message - From: "JOSEPH HARRISON" To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria | The oxygen place is called a Recompression Chamber (comonly called Decompression Chamber) technicaly they are Recompression Decompression Chamber. They raise the pressure of O2 to 29.4psi to 58.8psi which are equal to 30 to 60 ft.sea water, this will kill many bad germs, anaerobic and areobic. | | | | >From: "Catherine Creel" | >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com | >To: | >Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria | >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:50:46 -0500 | > | ><>in | >Wa State a few yrs ago and the Oxegen stopped it. Killed it.>> | > | > In vitro is very different from in vivo. | > | >Catherine | > | > | > | >-- | >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. | > | >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: | >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com | >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. | > | >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com | >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | >List maintainer: Mike Devour | > | | | -- -- | Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here | |
RE: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber - Extremely effective place to perform surgery without risk of infection. Namaste: Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: JOSEPH HARRISON [mailto:jharriso...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria The oxygen place is called a Recompression Chamber (comonly called Decompression Chamber) technicaly they are Recompression Decompression Chamber. They raise the pressure of O2 to 29.4psi to 58.8psi which are equal to 30 to 60 ft.sea water, this will kill many bad germs, anaerobic and areobic. >From: "Catherine Creel" >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: >Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:50:46 -0500 > ><< believe i machine lung iron an similar place oxegen ina some put>>in >Wa State a few yrs ago and the Oxegen stopped it. Killed it.>> > > In vitro is very different from in vivo. > >Catherine > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here <http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag2_etl_EN.asp>
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Thanks. I thought they were hyperbaric chambers. JOSEPH HARRISON wrote: > > The oxygen place is called a Recompression Chamber (comonly called > Decompression Chamber) technicaly they are Recompression Decompression > Chamber. They raise the pressure of O2 to 29.4psi to 58.8psi which are > equal to 30 to 60 ft.sea water, this will kill many bad germs, > anaerobic and areobic. > > >From: "Catherine Creel" > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria > >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:50:46 -0500 > > > ><>in > >Wa State a few yrs ago and the Oxegen stopped it. Killed it.>> > > > > In vitro is very different from in vivo. > > > >Catherine > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
The oxygen place is called a Recompression Chamber (comonly called Decompression Chamber) technicaly they are Recompression Decompression Chamber. They raise the pressure of O2 to 29.4psi to 58.8psi which are equal to 30 to 60 ft.sea water, this will kill many bad germs, anaerobic and areobic. >From: "Catherine Creel" >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: >Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:50:46 -0500 > ><>in >Wa State a few yrs ago and the Oxegen stopped it. Killed it.>> > > In vitro is very different from in vivo. > >Catherine > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Huh? Viruses don't eat anything, they simply hijack the dna and replicate
themselves. Bacteria, fungus and protozoa eat.
Marshall
Robb Allen wrote:
> Hello.Strep...{or however you spell it}.Strep throat is a flesh
> eating virus and CS works on that.Robb
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> Subject: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
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> > Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There
> > are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy
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Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Reportedly, and I read somewhere, I think on this list that H2O2 works wonders. But it is not "pushed" as a cure because it is not patented. Marshall Peggy wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There > are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:17:35 -0800, "Marlene Hanson" wrote: >Some one mentioned oxygen for the flesh eating bacteria which I believe would >work. I think Ozone therapy via blood infusion or ozone application to the >exposed area or ozone enema one or all of these would be beneficial. Of course >Colloidal Silver as well. H2O2 is better than O3 via intravenous (from what I've read). I'd use intravenous H2O2 and O3 externally -- and drink a bunch of CS. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Hello.Strep...{or however you spell it}.Strep throat is a flesh
eating virus and CS works on that.Robb
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To: Silver
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Subject: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
> Hi,
> Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There
> are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy
>
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Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
A rather indepth discussion of this same subject at: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=d39f1a3c09b91df8c30134a8e177fb db&threadid=20952 suzy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
Hi List Some one mentioned oxygen for the flesh eating bacteria which I believe would work. I think Ozone therapy via blood infusion or ozone application to the exposed area or ozone enema one or all of these would be beneficial. Of course Colloidal Silver as well. Marlene - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 8:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria > Hi, > Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There > are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy I don`t know from personal experience, but CS should work, as it can kill bacteria easily, as well as viruses. Why don`t you tell the parents about it, so their children won`t have to die? Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
> Hi, > Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There > are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy I don`t know from personal experience, but CS should work, as it can kill bacteria easily, as well as viruses. Why don`t you tell the parents about it, so their children won`t have to die? Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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One word. Ozone. Another. Reliable. Duncan | Hi, | Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There | are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy | | | -- | The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. | | To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: | silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com | with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. | | To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com | Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | List maintainer: Mike Devour |
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
<> In vitro is very different from in vivo. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria
They put some ina oxegen place similar to an iron lung machine i believe in Wa State a few yrs ago and the Oxegen stopped it. Killed it. -Original Message- From: Peggy To: Silver Date: Saturday, February 23, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: CS>Flesh Eating Bacteria >Hi, >Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria? There >are two new cases in Charleston SC this week. Thanks, Peggy > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email
As far as I know, Outlook express is the only mail program that will execute embeded worms in an email without you clicking on an attachment. Netscape and Eudora do not have that security hole. Anyone running Outlook is begging to be infected. Of all my friends who have gotten any worms 100% are running Outlook Express, yet only about 20% of my friends run it. Marshall Jimbo Wright wrote: > This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be > imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good > argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of > virus transfer. > > Jim Wright > > -Original Message- > From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>re: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached > you your email > > Hello, > > As you already know, this email had a virus attached. The dangerous thing > about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message. It wasn't > included as an attachment - which I NEVER open. That is scary, as the next > one might not be as easy to get rid of. > > Steve Radcliff > > > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > > ** Original Sender: "A.V.R.A" > > ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most > glad your son recovered! > > > > PS: You have the Kak virus > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM > > Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > > > > > > Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs > broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. > I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two > quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He > said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for > debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing > the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got > rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the > hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net > > > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email
This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of virus transfer. Jim Wright -Original Message- From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>re: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email Hello, As you already know, this email had a virus attached. The dangerous thing about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message. It wasn't included as an attachment - which I NEVER open. That is scary, as the next one might not be as easy to get rid of. Steve Radcliff > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > ** Original Sender: "A.V.R.A" > ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most glad your son recovered! > > PS: You have the Kak virus > > - Original Message - > From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > > > Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net > > >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email
Hello, As you already know, this email had a virus attached. The dangerous thing about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message. It wasn't included as an attachment - which I NEVER open. That is scary, as the next one might not be as easy to get rid of. Steve Radcliff > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > ** Original Sender: "A.V.R.A" > ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most > glad your son recovered! > > PS: You have the Kak virus > > - Original Message - > From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria > > > Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed > clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him > silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day > during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he > would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement > would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from > the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the > infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still > has both legs. h...@mcmo.net > > >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most glad your son recovered! PS: You have the Kak virus - Original Message - From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
this is the second one today Lynda - Original Message - From: Connie Hendrix To: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria This file: "Unknown0a2e.data" was infected with: "WScript.KakWorm.dr" virus. The file was deleted by Norton AntiVirus. Monday, May 14, 2001 16:30
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
A message popped up when I opened this up that said it wasn't safe. - Original Message - From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net
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not sure what is going on this makes the fifth email with this virus , Lynda - Original Message - From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria This file: "Unknown0969.data" was infected with: "WScript.KakWorm.dr" virus. The file was deleted by Norton AntiVirus. Monday, May 14, 2001 14:13
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
H2O2 might work well on such wounds except for one problem... When you are dealing with such a condition, the infection runs through the tissues. The H2O2, and even colloidal silver might do well on the surface, but will not touch the deeper infection. It's the deeper infection that will kill you. Theoretically, if you are able to surgically remove all of the infectious tissues so that one can apply colloidal silver and/or H2O2 to the remaining tissue, it might be effective. I have some personal experience with flesh eating bacteria. It is not a pretty condition. By the grace of Divine Intervention and probably a set of very unique circumstances, the infection was handled successfully. The individual is the only one ever recorded to have survived ( so far ) a flesh eating bacterial infection in the deep abdominal region ( this the surgeon and lawyers told us ). To top it off, the infection was a hospital-only strain. One's best bet is to FLOOD the body with colloidal silver used internally. In the above case, the one lucky circumstance was the fact that the individual had not taken any substances in the stomach for about thirty days - therefore, the stomach had stopped producing acid. I can only attribute recovery to the colloidal silver taken internally, because the medical staff had long since stopped IV antibiotics due to the fact that they had no effect. I believe the colloidal silver was far more effective than would normally be due to the stomach's lack of acid. One cannot amputate the abdomen - the choice was either recover or die. Infections such as these become septic very rapidly. One will notice that the standard choice these days to treat such infections is simply to briefly try to see if the infection can be controlled, and if not, rapidly amputate the area if possible. If you or a loved one finds oneself in a position of developing a flesh eating bacterial condition and in the hospital, you need to be pre-educated and assertive. Not every hospital doctor will know the best protocols to follow right off the bat. If the infection is in an area of the body that is not amputatable, you need to strongly suggest that blood transfusions be prepared ( in some cases, as in rare blood types, this can take a bit of time ). You might strongly consider Trovan as the first antibiotic choice, followed closely by the "Gorilla Three" ( instead of vice versa - hopefully, Trovan has been on the market long enough for most hospital MD's to have experience with it ). One might get lucky, and get a fast response from the Trovan ( hospital derived infections are developing a strong resistance to the "Gorilla Three" antibiotic protocol ). You need to get alot of colloidal silver into the body, and I'd strongly suggest you not tell the medical staff you are doing so. One probably would not be able to convince the medical staff to put the individual on oxygen, but if one is able to do so, this can be beneficial. Usually, they wait until the oxygen count in the blood drops - which is often too late. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria I read somewhere that H2O2 is extremely effective against this bacteria. CS is probably as well, but H2O2 is instantous in stopping it from a report I read some time back. Unfortunately hospitals will not use it, but instead fill you with expensive drugs which have limited or no effectiveness. H2O2 is too cheap to be an acceptable protocol. :< Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: This is the 4th or 5th case of flesh eating bacteria in this area in a short time. Would CS, the hyperbaric system described by Brooks, or anything else we have talked about, have worked for this guy? He is the dad of a friend. suzy http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788996/14655842.html Flesh-eating disease attacks Urbandale man A sudden attack of "flesh-eating disease" leads to amputation. By KATE KOMPAS Register Staff Writer 05/11/2001Joseph Rogers of Urbandale got out of bed about 6 a.m. on April 21 and couldn't feel his toes.Doctors removed his leg before noon.Rogers, 76, fell victim to necrotizing fasciitis, commonly known as the "flesh-eating disease."The disease is caused by a variation of the bacteria that causes strep throat and is as rare as it is deadly. The bacteria typically enter the body through a wound and immediately begin to devour muscle and fat. It can progress at a speed of three centimeters an hour, doctors say.The Centers for Disease Control reports there are fewer than 2,000 people infected in the United States each year. About 100 of them will die. Experts say the chance of contracting ne
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
Brooks, thank you for outlining the protocol. Have printed it off, and will make sure we understand the details (and quick access to anything needed). Its too late for our friends dad, but it might save someone else's leg from being amputated. suzy
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
<< The government and the drug companies are trying to help us.etc, etc, etc. >> James, I like your sense of humor. Good one. Christel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
`Dear Suzy, We have, in the past, conducted quite extensive experimental evaluations of both systemic--and topically applied--- substances for addressing a wide variety of bacterial and/or venous stasis insultswith variable results..By far, the most effective composite protocol we instigated involved a combination of protocols. In many cases of protracted insults, the challenge of detritus tissue particles must be addressed. The most effective---and pain-tolerant---procedure included the dilution of 5 to 10 ppm CS with 20% Lidocaine (2% strength) being applied to the "already dampened" surface of the ulcer/sore. After---and ONLY after---5 to 8 minute interval, the surface was physically debrided (if required by circumstances). Note: Most surface wounds/sores/ulcers deep enough to involve underlying tissue will have exposed a large field of nerve sensors. Pain from almost any type of physical contact is, usually, INTENSE. Therefore, debridement always included some form of pain abatement. Following debridement, fluids weeping from the surface was carefully blotted and the chosen protocol instituted. Our most effective one included a preliminary flushing with 3.5% H202. The actual method included the use of a simple "squeeze-bulb" or ear-syringe to apply the H202. The liquid was gently applied in copious quantities and allowed to bubble for about 15 seconds; then blotted with gauze and repeated 4 or 5 times---or until the "foaming action" decreased to trace levels. Using a portion of the CS X Lidocaine solution, we diluted with Full-strength DMSO at the rate of 10% DMSO to 90% CS X Lidocaine solutionby volume. This is the material used as the resident dressing. The insult was thoroughly dampened with this solution and the entire area enclosed in a suitable fashion (we used high-quality, clear garbage-type bags) and pure O2 applied via tubing (at low inflating pressure...usually 12 to 15 psi). Additional 02 was only applied as the bag showed evidence of collapsing from pressure loss. i.e. Just restoration of acceptable inflation is all that was required. The 02 atmosphere was maintained for from 30 to 45 minutes (usually). After removing the 02 bag, a six-fold gauze bandage (thorought soaked in the CS X DMSO X LIDOCANE solution) was applied to the affected area. This bandage was large enough to extend at least .75" beyond the edges of the insult.One little amendment which proved to be quite helpful involved the cutting out of a small clear-plastic patch which followed the general outline of the edges of the actual ulcer. This patch was carefully placed "directly" over the ulcerated area (but on the OUTSIDE of the gauze bandage). The plastic "hydrator" and the gauze bandage were held in place using high-quality adhesive-tape, employing either and X pattern or a top and bottom edge restraint pattern. It is important to use tape long enough to attach to dry areas considerably beyond the edges of the bandage. This will facilitate holding the bandage in proper physical alignment. There were several factors involved in determining the frequency in which the bandages were changed---and or 02 support employed. Among SERIOUS/ACUTE volunteer presentations, one of two circumstances generally prevailed: (1) the subject was exposed to the entire protocol every four hours (during the daylight period) and left with the last bandage in place until the following morning;. (2) the subject was exposed to the H202 protocol and the 02 topical hyperbaric-type treatment, only, on schedule of every 3 hours, with at least one hour intervals between treatments; but no treatments between 10:00 pm and 8;30 am. Generally, after 2 or 3 days, only the (1) protocol was utilizedand then in a modified manner. To wit: after completion of the complete protocol, the gauze bandage was left in place---without disturbance---for three days (however, fresh CS X Lidocaine X DMSO solution was applied every 2 to 3 hours during the daylight hours. The bandage WAS NOT disturbed during thses activities. As healing progressed, the time-table was modified to even longer intervals. There is some other, ancillary, information of consequence.but I must go now. I will try to follow-up sometime tomorrow. This protocol, and/or slight variations, proved successful in a consequential number of cases which had shown ABSOLUTELY NO measureable improvement from a multitude of other differing protocols. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. itssu...@aol.com wrote: > This is the 4th or 5th case of flesh eating bacteria in this area in a > short > time. Would CS, the hyperbaric system described by Brooks, or > anything else > we have talked about, have worked for this guy? He is the dad
RE: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
No! I don't believe it. They would not do something like that! Put profit above stopping human misery? You must be some sort of paranoid conspiracy theorist! The government and the drug companies are trying to help us.etc, etc, etc. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 9:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria I read somewhere that H2O2 is extremely effective against this bacteria. CS is probably as well, but H2O2 is instantous in stopping it from a report I read some time back. Unfortunately hospitals will not use it, but instead fill you with expensive drugs which have limited or no effectiveness. H2O2 is too cheap to be an acceptable protocol. :< Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: This is the 4th or 5th case of flesh eating bacteria in this area in a short time. Would CS, the hyperbaric system described by Brooks, or anything else we have talked about, have worked for this guy? He is the dad of a friend. suzy http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788996/14655842.html Flesh-eating disease attacks Urbandale man A sudden attack of "flesh-eating disease" leads to amputation. By KATE KOMPAS <mailto:komp...@news.dmreg.com%3fsubject=online:%20Flesh-eating%20disease%20 attacks%20Urbandale%20man> Register Staff Writer 05/11/2001Joseph Rogers of Urbandale got out of bed about 6 a.m. on April 21 and couldn't feel his toes.Doctors removed his leg before noon.Rogers, 76, fell victim to necrotizing fasciitis, commonly known as the "flesh-eating disease."The disease is caused by a variation of the bacteria that causes strep throat and is as rare as it is deadly. The bacteria typically enter the body through a wound and immediately begin to devour muscle and fat. It can progress at a speed of three centimeters an hour, doctors say.The Centers for Disease Control reports there are fewer than 2,000 people infected in the United States each year. About 100 of them will die. Experts say the chance of contracting necrotizing fasciitis from another person is near nonexistent."I've got a disease I can't pronounce the name of," Rogers said Thursday. "I don't understand why this happened to me."His was the second case of necrotizing fasciitis reported in Iowa in the past month. Curtis Benttine, a truck driver from St. Ansgar, was hospitalized earlier this week. Twelve pounds of infected tissue was removed from Benttine's leg.Dr. Cort Lohff of the state health department said statewide numbers on necrotizing fasciitis aren't kept, but the disease has shown up before:* Randy Schabaker, 51, of Des Moines died of the flesh-eating disease in March 1993.* Bryan Crawford, 12, of Independence lost part of his leg to the disease in 1994.* Ryan Johnson, 14, of Independence died in 1995. He also had leukemia.* Stuart Eliasen, a 34-year-old Plainfield farmer, died in 1997.* Matthew Potter, 6, of Amana died in 1998 from a streptococcus infection that later was determined not to be the "flesh-eating" form.When his toes went numb, Rogers called to his wife, Mary, who thought he was having a stroke and called 911.A bruise appeared on his left leg by the time he arrived at the hospital, Rogers said. The discoloration spread, inching up his leg within a few hours. By 10 a.m., the doctors at Iowa Methodist Medical Center said they should amputate.Doctors still are puzzled over how Rogers contracted the disease."I cried for three days," Mary Rogers said Thursday. "But I've accepted it."Mary, who's been married to Joseph for 53 years, has been reading everything she can on the disease.The retired steel worker and World War II veteran will start rehabilitation soon and will be fitted with a prosthetic leg."There's no pain," he said. "The good leg feels good, and the bad leg's not there." Rogers said. "I guess I'm lucky I got through it."
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
I read somewhere that H2O2 is extremely effective against this bacteria. CS is probably as well, but H2O2 is instantous in stopping it from a report I read some time back. Unfortunately hospitals will not use it, but instead fill you with expensive drugs which have limited or no effectiveness. H2O2 is too cheap to be an acceptable protocol. :< Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: > This is the 4th or 5th case of flesh eating bacteria in this area in a > short > time. Would CS, the hyperbaric system described by Brooks, or > anything else > we have talked about, have worked for this guy? He is the dad of a > friend. > suzy > > http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788996/14655842.html > > Flesh-eating disease attacks Urbandale man > > >> A sudden attack of "flesh-eating disease" leads to amputation. > > By KATE KOMPAS > Register Staff Writer > 05/11/2001Joseph Rogers of Urbandale got out of bed about 6 a.m. on > April 21 > and couldn't feel his toes.Doctors removed his leg before noon.Rogers, > 76, > fell victim to necrotizing fasciitis, commonly known as the > "flesh-eating > disease."The disease is caused by a variation of the bacteria that > causes > strep throat and is as rare as it is deadly. The bacteria typically > enter the > body through a wound and immediately begin to devour muscle and fat. > It can > progress at a speed of three centimeters an hour, doctors say.The > Centers for > Disease Control reports there are fewer than 2,000 people infected in > the > United States each year. About 100 of them will die. Experts say the > chance > of contracting necrotizing fasciitis from another person is near > nonexistent."I've got a disease I can't pronounce the name of," Rogers > said > Thursday. "I don't understand why this happened to me."His was the > second > case of necrotizing fasciitis reported in Iowa in the past month. > Curtis > Benttine, a truck driver from St. Ansgar, was hospitalized earlier > this week. > Twelve pounds of infected tissue was removed from Benttine's leg.Dr. > Cort > Lohff of the state health department said statewide numbers on > necrotizing > fasciitis aren't kept, but the disease has shown up before:* Randy > Schabaker, > 51, of Des Moines died of the flesh-eating disease in March 1993.* > Bryan > Crawford, 12, of Independence lost part of his leg to the disease in > 1994.* > Ryan Johnson, 14, of Independence died in 1995. He also had leukemia.* > Stuart > Eliasen, a 34-year-old Plainfield farmer, died in 1997.* Matthew > Potter, 6, > of Amana died in 1998 from a streptococcus infection that later was > determined not to be the "flesh-eating" form.When his toes went numb, > Rogers > called to his wife, Mary, who thought he was having a stroke and > called 911.A > bruise appeared on his left leg by the time he arrived at the > hospital, > Rogers said. The discoloration spread, inching up his leg within a few > hours. > By 10 a.m., the doctors at Iowa Methodist Medical Center said they > should > amputate.Doctors still are puzzled over how Rogers contracted the > disease."I > cried for three days," Mary Rogers said Thursday. "But I've accepted > it."Mary, who's been married to Joseph for 53 years, has been reading > everything she can on the disease.The retired steel worker and World > War II > veteran will start rehabilitation soon and will be fitted with a > prosthetic > leg."There's no pain," he said. "The good leg feels good, and the bad > leg's > not there." Rogers said. "I guess I'm lucky I got through it." > >
Re: CS>Flesh eating bacteria
This is the 4th or 5th case of flesh eating bacteria in this area in a short time. Would CS, the hyperbaric system described by Brooks, or anything else we have talked about, have worked for this guy? He is the dad of a friend. suzy http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788996/14655842.html Flesh-eating disease attacks Urbandale man > By mailto:komp...@news.dmreg.com%3fsubject=online:%20Flesh-eating%20disease%20attacks%20Urbandale%20man";>KATE KOMPAS Register Staff Writer 05/11/2001Joseph Rogers of Urbandale got out of bed about 6 a.m. on April 21 and couldn't feel his toes.Doctors removed his leg before noon.Rogers, 76, fell victim to necrotizing fasciitis, commonly known as the "flesh-eating disease."The disease is caused by a variation of the bacteria that causes strep throat and is as rare as it is deadly. The bacteria typically enter the body through a wound and immediately begin to devour muscle and fat. It can progress at a speed of three centimeters an hour, doctors say.The Centers for Disease Control reports there are fewer than 2,000 people infected in the United States each year. About 100 of them will die. Experts say the chance of contracting necrotizing fasciitis from another person is near nonexistent."I've got a disease I can't pronounce the name of," Rogers said Thursday. "I don't understand why this happened to me."His was the second case of necrotizing fasciitis reported in Iowa in the past month. Curtis Benttine, a truck driver from St. Ansgar, was hospitalized earlier this week. Twelve pounds of infected tissue was removed from Benttine's leg.Dr. Cort Lohff of the state health department said statewide numbers on necrotizing fasciitis aren't kept, but the disease has shown up before:* Randy Schabaker, 51, of Des Moines died of the flesh-eating disease in March 1993.* Bryan Crawford, 12, of Independence lost part of his leg to the disease in 1994.* Ryan Johnson, 14, of Independence died in 1995. He also had leukemia.* Stuart Eliasen, a 34-year-old Plainfield farmer, died in 1997.* Matthew Potter, 6, of Amana died in 1998 from a streptococcus infection that later was determined not to be the "flesh-eating" form.When his toes went numb, Rogers called to his wife, Mary, who thought he was having a stroke and called 911.A bruise appeared on his left leg by the time he arrived at the hospital, Rogers said. The discoloration spread, inching up his leg within a few hours. By 10 a.m., the doctors at Iowa Methodist Medical Center said they should amputate.Doctors still are puzzled over how Rogers contracted the disease."I cried for three days," Mary Rogers said Thursday. "But I've accepted it."Mary, who's been married to Joseph for 53 years, has been reading everything she can on the disease.The retired steel worker and World War II veteran will start rehabilitation soon and will be fitted with a prosthetic leg."There's no pain," he said. "The good leg feels good, and the bad leg's not there." Rogers said. "I guess I'm lucky I got through it."
Re: CS>flesh eating bacteria
I've wondered about that too, as we've had several cases in Oregon this year...Very bad bug. Three boys in Seattle were saved by being placed in hyperbaric chamber to get oxygen to the bugs. It worked...they lived. These bugs eat flesh at about 3 inches an hour...the purpose spots spread very quickly. I wonder if high temp, ozonated water, lots of cs, etc all might work. Cheers, Steven Geigle Cedar Mill, Oregon, USA sgei...@home.com - Original Message - From: dave To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: CS>flesh eating bacteria > Recently here in the NW there have been several cases of the > flesh eating bacteria.I know of one death and one that may > or may not recover after multiple amputations and > complications from the surgeries.. > Has anyone out there used and seen positive results useing > CS or ANYTHING that could help?? > a260dave... > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
