Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Ode Coyote]

At 01:59 PM 4/11/2007 +0100, you wrote:



On 4/10/07, Ode Coyote <odecoy...@alltel.net> 
wrote:



  People also used to be exposed to animals from birth, crawl about in the
barn tasting rat chaser kitties and chickens, eat and breathe dirty things
and "live" in the natural world that requires the development of resistance.


Yes but on the other hand, the infant mortality rate was a lot higher then

Kirsteen


Yea..and it had a purpose.
 Now we spend billions keeping throwbacks alive and spoon fed for 
life..just because we can and life is precious enough to replicate the 
heck out of it in spite of that lower mortality rate.
 Way back when the mortality rate was very very high, defectives would be 
killed...immediately...and old folks voluntarily dropped out to starve so 
the clan didn't have to drag them around and itself out of the business of 
staying alive.
 Look kid, if you can't make it, you'll have try again...Gods will and all 
that.  Look ya'll, I'm real tired, go on ahead.

Go figger.
 Just as a matter of utter rude practicality, [which is what life on Earth 
IS ] how many anchors can a boat float?
 Let's just hope we never have to find out what saving ourselves into 
extinction means.

...or...
ain't no such thing as a single edged sword.
 Everything done, does something.

When doing Gods selection work, a bit o' Gods wisdom helps keep ya outta 
trouble.
 But, avoiding Gods culling process is "moral",  and not doing it 
ourselves, iswhen EVERYTHING else in nature gets itself culled through 
and selected for robustness and intelligence, except now, US.


So, genetic up-breeding plants and animals is dangerous and  down-breeding 
humans isn't.

 I dunno.I hope we're real lucky.
...could be wrong, but it's not "looking" that way, apparently, to either 
of us.


Ode



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Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Dee]

You may be surprised at the *real* mortality rates!  My friend had cancer
and when she visited the cancer hospital, she was *appalled* at the amount
of children there were there suffering from various types of cancer; a thing
unheard of when I was a child.  Dee  
---Original Message---
 
From: Kirsteen Wright
Date: 11/04/2007 16:44:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re:
CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol
 



 
Yes but on the other hand, the infant mortality rate was a lot higher then
 
Kirsteen


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Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[sol]

Ode wrote:

  People also used to be exposed to animals from birth, crawl about
in the
barn tasting rat chaser kitties and chickens, eat and breathe dirty
things
and "live" in the natural world that requires the development of
resistance.


 Kirsteen Wright wrote:

Yes but on the other hand, the infant mortality rate was a lot higher then


On the other other hand, nearly all of our current trumpeted longer 
average lifespan has resulted from lowered "infant" mortality. I've read 
that in the past anyone who lived beyond about 5 was likely to live as 
long as today's average.
In any case the current infant mortality numbers of the U.S. are nothing 
to brag about. Apparently many countries have far less infant mortality 
than we do.


The process of developing a strong immune system by the means Ode 
mentioned inevitably results in the natural culling of those whose 
immune systems for whatever reason cannot stand up to the challenges. 
While a tragedy on a personal human scale theoretically it was a good 
thing for the human species as a whole. Evolution in action.


sol


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Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Kirsteen Wright]

On 4/10/07, Ode Coyote  wrote:




  People also used to be exposed to animals from birth, crawl about in the
barn tasting rat chaser kitties and chickens, eat and breathe dirty things
and "live" in the natural world that requires the development of
resistance.



Yes but on the other hand, the infant mortality rate was a lot higher then

Kirsteen

Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Ode Coyote]

  People also used to be exposed to animals from birth, crawl about in the 
barn tasting rat chaser kitties and chickens, eat and breathe dirty things 
and "live" in the natural world that requires the development of resistance.
 Everyone also got momma milk that transfers many acquired immunities from 
day one.


..and people didn't used to whine about problems like they do now, 
suffering in unheard silence.


[I'll get that busted finger splinted up later...gotta milk the cows. ]

Ode

At 08:10 PM 4/9/2007 +0100, you wrote:

I don't know about that, because years ago, people used to live with farm 
animals even, and I don't think allergies were heard of then.  I think it 
is far more likely to be the way we live now i.e. Pesticides, pollution, 
all the rubbish that is put in food, the fact that even baby washing 
stuff, but certainly all the shower/hair washing products we use; are so 
loaded with sodium laureth sulphate, propylene glycol etc., I mean, even 
dogs and cats have allergies now!  Another thing is vaccination and they 
pump even tiny babies full of vaccines which contain mercury, 
formaldahide, alluminium, etc,.  I think at one time our immune systems 
could cope with things like mold and fungus, but now it is so under seige 
from trying to protect us from everything else, it is fighting a losing 
battle.  Dee


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Date: 09/04/2007 19:48:33
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Subject: Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was 
Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol


THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.

  A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND,60 YRS AGO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED BRING INTO 
THE HOME DOGS AND CATS AND MADE THEM PART OF THE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THAT 
IS ALSO THE TIME WHEN FUNGUS AND MOLD STARTED INVADING HOMES. FORMALLY 
DOGS AND CATS HAD THEIR PLACE OUTSIDE THEY WORKED AND USUALLY DID NOT 
COME INTO THE HOME.
NOW,DOGS AND CATS ROAM OUTSIDE PICKING UP MOSS(FUNGUS) OR FUNGUS FROM THE 
TREES ON THEIR FEET AND FUNGUS WILL GET INTO THEIR COATS FROM TREES ETC. 
THEY THAN LICK THEIR FEET LICK HUMANS OR THE FUNGUS JUST GOES INTO THE 
CARPETS, BEDDING, FURNITURE, CLOTHES.




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Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Dee]

I don't know about that, because years ago, people used to live with farm
animals even, and I don't think allergies were heard of then.  I think it is
far more likely to be the way we live now i.e. Pesticides, pollution, all
the rubbish that is put in food, the fact that even baby washing stuff, but
certainly all the shower/hair washing products we use; are so loaded with
sodium laureth sulphate, propylene glycol etc., I mean, even dogs and cats
have allergies now!  Another thing is vaccination and they pump even tiny
babies full of vaccines which contain mercury, formaldahide, alluminium, etc
.  I think at one time our immune systems could cope with things like mold
and fungus, but now it is so under seige from trying to protect us from
everything else, it is fighting a losing battle.  Dee  
 
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From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 09/04/2007 19:48:33
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re:
CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol
 
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
 
  A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND,60 YRS AGO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED BRING INTO THE
HOME DOGS AND CATS AND MADE THEM PART OF THE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO
THE TIME WHEN FUNGUS AND MOLD STARTED INVADING HOMES. FORMALLY DOGS AND CATS
HAD THEIR PLACE OUTSIDE THEY WORKED AND USUALLY DID NOT COME INTO THE HOME.
NOW,DOGS AND CATS ROAM OUTSIDE PICKING UP MOSS(FUNGUS) OR FUNGUS FROM THE
TREES ON THEIR FEET AND FUNGUS WILL GET INTO THEIR COATS FROM TREES ETC.
THEY THAN LICK THEIR FEET LICK HUMANS OR THE FUNGUS JUST GOES INTO THE
CARPETS, BEDDING, FURNITURE, CLOTHES.
 

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[mborgert]

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. 

 A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND,60 YRS AGO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED BRING INTO THE 
HOME DOGS AND CATS AND MADE THEM PART OF THE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO THE 
TIME WHEN FUNGUS AND MOLD STARTED INVADING HOMES. FORMALLY DOGS AND CATS HAD 
THEIR PLACE OUTSIDE THEY WORKED AND USUALLY DID NOT COME INTO THE HOME. 
NOW,DOGS AND CATS ROAM OUTSIDE PICKING UP MOSS(FUNGUS) OR FUNGUS FROM THE TREES 
ON THEIR FEET AND FUNGUS WILL GET INTO THEIR COATS FROM TREES ETC. THEY THAN 
LICK THEIR FEET LICK HUMANS OR THE FUNGUS JUST GOES INTO THE CARPETS, BEDDING, 
FURNITURE, CLOTHES.

ANOTHER, WASHING CARPETS WITH LIQUIDS IN THE WINTER.  THERE IS NO WAY WALL TO 
WALL CARPETS CAN DRY OUT IN THE WINTER, UNLESS ONE IS IN A HOTTER CLIMATE, FOR 
THE CARPETS SHOULD BE AIRED ON BOTH SIDES, AND PEOPLE KEEP HOMES COOLER EVEN IN 
THE WINTER AT NIGHT OR WHEN THEY LEAVE THE HOUSE.  ALL OF THE LIQUID THAT IS 
LEFT TO DRY OUT BECOMES,OVER TIME, MOLD.  THE DRY CARPET CLEANER, WHO KNOWS 
WHAT CHEMICAL IT CONTAINS. 

I DO LOVE DOGS AND CATS BUT IF ONE HAS AN ALLERGY BESIDES BEING ALLERGIC TO 
THEIR DANDER IT COULD ALSO BE THE ABOVE REASONS.

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION
MARY


-- Original message --
From: Clayton Family 
>
> Severe allergic reactions are much more common today than in years 
> past. Almost unheard of 100 years ago, now everyone has heard of it, 
> nearly.
> 
> Dr Doris Rapp has been working in the allergy field for 40 or 50 years, 
> and is convinced that toxins and chemicals are to blame for the upswing 
> in severe childhood allergies and brain disorders, like ADHD. She has a 
> book about it, is this your child's environment, or something.
> 
> In my own case, I had sinus problems, which according to research done 
> by Mayo Clinic and available by searching PubMed, is almost certainly 
> due to fungal infections. Also had a small amount of toxic mold growing 
> on some sheetrock in 2 locations in the home, further poisoning me. I 
> was given dilfucan, an antifungal to deal with the candida and sinus 
> infections, and allergy antigens. This improved my condition a great 
> deal, but not enough.
> 
> Then I heard about CS, and started using it instead of the diflucan and 
> the antigens, which I came to believe were also adding to my burden. I 
> use it 3 x a day, just like I had to take the antigens. The 3 x a day 
> schedule has been shown to work the best for sublingual route of 
> allergy treatment, so I stayed with the 3x a day routine, to stimulate 
> my body's immune response, but with cs instead of antigens.
> 
> At the same time, I heard for the first time about genetically 
> engineered food in our diet, and that it might be contributing to our 
> problems. So I started trying an organic vegetarian diet (I am vegan, 
> due to allergies to dairy).
> 
> I improved MUCH more quickly with this, and consider that the 
> genetically engineered food to be a sinister stealth attack on our 
> entire nation. One quote from the movie, from the GE company, said they 
> will be watching the children of the nation closely in the next 10 
> years! If we were infiltrated by Communists intent on the destruction 
> of our nation, it could not be much more evil than this.
> 
> So  Monsanto had been looking for a soil bacteria that is genetically 
> resistant to Roundup. They looked for 12 years, then they found one. 
> They tried cutting and pasting it in, but no go, the cell boundaries 
> are too strong (just to keep things like this out). So then they put on 
> their thinking caps and decided that bacteria and viruses can invade 
> the cell wall, so they put in some E coli. This bug causes some severe 
> gastrointestinal infections, by the way. It worked. They found some 
> viruses that also work, and to get a control on the process so they can 
> test if it is working, they put in an antibiotic resistant bacteria. So 
> they can give the culture the antibiotic, and if the culture lives, 
> they have won!
> 
> SO in GE soy, we eat e coli, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and some 
> viruses. And then they can spray it with Round up, and it won't kill 
> the plant. And we are not talking about how the pollen from the corn 
> goes all over and contaminates regular corn.
> 
> I am thinking that the CS might be a supplement I might need for the 
> rest of my life. These ge bugs might be getting into my cells 
> (something did, I had a severe body wide infection of some kind, 
> judging by how little cs I could take without getting a bad herks). And 
> since the CS works at the cellular level, it will maybe kill all the 
> invaders.
> 
> At any rate I am getting healthier by the day, as long as I watch my 
> diet, environment and take my CS. By the way, my food allergies are 
> also improving greatly- I had some dairy by accident, and did not have 
> anaphylaxis, did not even have an asthma attack like last time, but I 
> could not digest

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Clayton Family]

Severe allergic reactions are much more common today than in years 
past. Almost unheard of 100 years ago, now everyone has heard of it, 
nearly.


Dr Doris Rapp has been working in the allergy field for 40 or 50 years, 
and is convinced that toxins and chemicals are to blame for the upswing 
in severe childhood allergies and brain disorders, like ADHD. She has a 
book about it, is this your child's environment, or something.


In my own case, I had sinus problems, which according to research done 
by Mayo Clinic and available by searching PubMed, is almost certainly 
due to fungal infections. Also had a small amount of toxic mold growing 
on some sheetrock in 2 locations in the home, further poisoning me. I 
was given dilfucan, an antifungal to deal with the candida and sinus 
infections, and allergy antigens. This improved my condition a great 
deal, but not enough.


Then I heard about CS, and started using it instead of the diflucan and 
the antigens, which I came to believe were also adding to my burden. I 
use it 3 x a day, just like I had to take the antigens. The 3 x a day 
schedule has been shown to work the best for sublingual route of 
allergy treatment, so I stayed with the 3x a day routine, to stimulate 
my body's immune response, but with cs instead of antigens.


At the same time, I heard for the first time about genetically 
engineered food in our diet, and that it might be contributing to our 
problems. So I started trying an organic vegetarian diet (I am vegan, 
due to allergies to dairy).


I improved MUCH more quickly with this, and consider that the 
genetically engineered food to be a sinister stealth attack on our 
entire nation. One quote from the movie, from the GE company, said they 
will be watching the children of the nation closely in the next 10 
years! If we were infiltrated by Communists intent on the destruction 
of our nation, it could not be much more evil than this.


So  Monsanto had been looking for a soil bacteria that is genetically 
resistant to Roundup. They looked for 12 years, then they found one. 
They tried cutting and pasting it in, but no go, the cell boundaries 
are too strong (just to keep things like this out). So then they put on 
their thinking caps and decided that bacteria and viruses can invade 
the cell wall, so they put in some E coli. This bug causes some severe 
gastrointestinal infections, by the way. It worked. They found some 
viruses that also work, and to get a control on the process so they can 
test if it is working, they put in an antibiotic resistant bacteria. So 
they can give the culture the antibiotic, and if the culture lives, 
they have won!


SO in GE soy, we eat e coli, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and some 
viruses. And then they can spray it with Round up, and it won't kill 
the plant. And we are not talking about how the pollen from the corn 
goes all over and contaminates regular corn.


I am thinking that the CS might be a supplement I might need for the 
rest of my life. These ge bugs might be getting into my cells 
(something did, I had a severe body wide infection of some kind, 
judging by how little cs I could take without getting a bad herks). And 
since the CS works at the cellular level, it will maybe kill all the 
invaders.


At any rate I am getting healthier by the day, as long as I watch my 
diet, environment and take my CS. By the way, my food allergies are 
also improving greatly- I had some dairy by accident, and did not have 
anaphylaxis, did not even have an asthma attack like last time, but I 
could not digest it well, and had indigestion and fatigue. I took some 
digestive enzymes and fasted 24 hours, and much better today. Not to 
mention the inhalent allergies.


I am thinking it must be some combo of infections. Whatever it is I am 
happy it works. I am sure my problems are not permanent, even though so 
many people say things like this are permanent. It turns out they are 
not, if you can get away from the toxins and cure the infections.


Congratulations!

Kathryn

On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:14 AM, sol wrote:

Well iodine is a 'necessary nutrient', but I CANNOT entirely avoid it, 
and do not have a goiter, so I MUST be getting sufficient. 20 years + 
of strict avoidance and I'm not dead yet (quite). So I get plenty of 
iodine, all my ultra-strict avoidance does not mean I'm iodine 
deficient, only means that I (mostly) manage to keep my total iodine 
intake down to where I don't have constant severe hives and eczema. I 
still do have frequent hives and eczema (I do everything I can to keep 
it to a minimum) and take antihistamines constantly plus sometimes 
have to use cortisone products, etc., etc. all because it is 
impossible to really avoid getting iodine. People who can eat high 
iodine foods, seafood, sea salt, high iodine veggies like broccoli and 
asparagus, and all the commercially prepared foods that contain 
iodized salt or seaweed thickeners and so on get a lot of iodine. 
Still some people may