[SLUG] custom redhat boot disk

2002-08-28 Thread Colin Humphreys

I need to modify the install boot disk for Redhat 7.3 . I havn't used
Redhat for a number of years Is there a package that contains the
tools for building the standard install boot disk?

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG meeting :Lycoris CD

2002-08-28 Thread Paul Copeland

Since the ISO image is available for download I guess there would be no 
problem bringing along a couple of burnt copies for interested parties to 
re-distribute.

Paul

At 09:23 AM 28/08/2002, Holroyd Engineering Services wrote:
Is it possible to get a copy of lycoris at the meeting this friday?

Ta

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Re: [SLUG] PPP authentication via Samba to Windoze?

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Rundle

 I don't know what a RAS server does, 

Sorry just a damn TLA,  Remote Access Server.

Thanks for the answer, I figured it was something
like such. Cool.

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Rundle

Hi Alan,

Just to add my 0.02 worth,

Remember that a PSDN modem doesn't send and receive at the same time,

All that download traffic has to have reply packets going back up
the line saying send the next packet.

So you will never get 56Kbit download speeds with tcp.

   5.5Kbyte * 8 = 44Kbit, I'd be pretty happy with that.

Also IIRC, 56K is one direction only, the packets going back are 33K.

Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a tad
faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)

HTH

Pete





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Re: [SLUG] upgrading mandrake

2002-08-28 Thread Russell Davie


Actually, run

 /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs status


xfs status returned:
usage: xfs [-config config_file] [-port tcp_port] [-droppriv] [-daemon] 
[-nodaemon] [-user user_name]

xfs dead but subsys locked
so xfs seems to exist, though status is not an option?

but running same command in directory returned
  ./xfs status
xfs dead but subsys locked

and  xfs restart returned..
./xfs restart
Reloading X Font Server config:[FAILED]

If you're having problems with this I really recommend using linuxconf.

excellent suggestion!, connected and was able to urpmi.update

when urpmi --auto-select kdebase XFree86 libqt2
or urpmi --auto-select --force perl
curl couldn't get files of server,
and returned:

installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/setup-2.2.0-26.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-devel-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpng3-1.2.4-3.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libext2fs2-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libimlib1-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openssl-0.9.6c-2.3mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ldconfig-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0-0.9.6c-2.3mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/fileutils-4.1.5-4.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mount-2.11n-4.3mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/e2fsprogs-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/urpmi-3.9-8mdk.noarch.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/imlib-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/util-linux-2.11n-4.3mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing.
You may want to update your urpmi database





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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Jon Biddell


 All that download traffic has to have reply packets going back up
 the line saying send the next packet.
 So you will never get 56Kbit download speeds with tcp.
5.5Kbyte * 8 = 44Kbit, I'd be pretty happy with that.

* 10 - 1 start and 1 stop bit, this is assuming no parity...

 Also IIRC, 56K is one direction only, the packets going back are 33K.

Correct - Your PC talks to the 'net at 33.6k max, and the 'net talks back 
to you at up to 56k (although on an allegedly perfect line I've never seen 
more that 48k, and Telstra claim that their PSTN lines are rated at 2400 baud 
only !!!)


 Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a tad
 faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)

You can still get it if you can't get ADSL, but at $1k/month plus data charges 
for 64k !!!

Jon
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Re: [SLUG] custom redhat boot disk

2002-08-28 Thread Wim Pranata

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Colin Humphreys wrote:

 I need to modify the install boot disk for Redhat 7.3 . I havn't used
 Redhat for a number of years Is there a package that contains the
 tools for building the standard install boot disk?

anaconda-runtime maybe?


wim

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Re: [SLUG] Odd crashes appear to be netscape-related

2002-08-28 Thread lukekendall

On 27 Aug, Ken Foskey wrote:
  If you machine locked up with memtest then you have a hardware failure.  
  Start unplugging things and see if you can remove the error. Hardware 
  errors are ugly when they are intermittent so good luck. 

Yep.  I'm arranging a UPS that's bigger than the existing 20 year
old power filter - it's not *quite* up to the load, I suspect. (*)

But it's been 3 days with no crashes since we stopped using Netscape.

So, I think there are a couple of different problems.

luke

(*)
It was only writing while writing this, that I calculated how old
the power filter is.  My god.  I'm becoming a living fossil!  Where
did my youth go?  I'm not *that* old!


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Re: [SLUG] upgrading mandrake

2002-08-28 Thread James Gregory

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 18:55, Russell Davie wrote:
 
 Actually, run
 
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs status
 
 
 xfs status returned:
 usage: xfs [-config config_file] [-port tcp_port] [-droppriv] [-daemon] 
 [-nodaemon] [-user user_name]
 
 xfs dead but subsys locked
 so xfs seems to exist, though status is not an option?

Odd. I guess you must have old initscripts... Or perhaps old xfs...

The locked subsys thing it's talking about is a file
/var/lock/subsys/xfs. Perhaps stop it, delete the file and restart.

 
 but running same command in directory returned
   ./xfs status
 xfs dead but subsys locked
 
 and  xfs restart returned..
 ./xfs restart
 Reloading X Font Server config:[FAILED]

what about:

  ./xfs stop
  ./xfs start

seeing as it doesn't support status...

 
 If you're having problems with this I really recommend using linuxconf.
 
 excellent suggestion!, connected and was able to urpmi.update

good. Glad to see we're making some progress.

 
 when urpmi --auto-select kdebase XFree86 libqt2
 or urpmi --auto-select --force perl
 curl couldn't get files of server,
 and returned:

[...]

run urpmi with 

urpmi --wget -v --auto-select kdebase XFree86 libqt2

and give me all of its output (might wanna send that off list), there's
got to be an error message I'm not seeing that happens before that. Are
there any proxies or anything that could be standing between it and the
internet? I also don't like that /mnt/win_e file. See what happens when
you remove your source for that file with urpmi.removemedia.

are you able to use curl to download any other urls? if not, can wget?
are either of them setup? If so there's the --wget or --curl options to
urpmi. However, you say you were able to run urpmi.update... Did it
actually download stuff or just tell you it was already up-to-date?

We're slowly running out of things that can break. :)

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Australian comments

2002-08-28 Thread Malcolm Valentine

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 00:19, Ken Foskey wrote:
 I was very disappointed with the responses to the two articles.
 Take a look at how we sell our message...

*Yawn* Another story about how Linux is/isn't the next big thing, I
think the media trundles these out about 3 months apart alternating
between it is and it isn't. I'm all for Linux advocacy, I just wish I
had more time to pursue it.

I notice free gets a good bashing in these articles. The air I breath
is free and it is most certainly worth far more then I payed for it...

Dismissing any free software because of the price seems rather small
minded. Every piece of free software has had at least one person spend
some of their time creating it. Chances are that person spent their time
designing, coding, testing, re-coding, documenting and then finding a
method of distribution so that others could benefit from their effort.
Of course for the larger projects those actively involved at one point
or another stretches to the thousands. To belittle free software is to
ignore the efforts of so many donated for free.

  I'm sure nearly all the people who have been aided by the State
Emergency Service, or the Bush Fire Brigade, or the Volunteer Surf Life
Savers (Do they still exist?) will tell anyone that asks them that these
volunteers are priceless.

  So dollar for dollar, Linux RD can't compete, developer hour for
developer hour (and the tester hours and documenter hours and
translation hours and ...) I don't think the case for the commercials is
so clear cut.

  If the media every comes to the realization that libraries are not
bookstores (among other things), perhaps we will see more enlightened
coverage regarding the futures of commercial and free software. In the
mean time I won't be holding my breath (I'll be breathing my free air)
and I'll certainly be spending more time advocating Linux then reading
tired old rehashed news.

Cheers,
  Malcolm V.

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Re: [SLUG] PCI Real Modem

2002-08-28 Thread Dan Treacy

 John Ferlito said:
 
  I've asked this before but I'm hoping someone has seen something since.
  Has anyone come across a PCI card with a real modem on it. ie not a
  winmodem. Something that is just recognised by standard linux serial
  drivers.


 I think those banksia Intra4 cards have real modems on them and the are
PCI.
 Only problem is you get 4 for the price of 5!

 The below mentioned Intra2 card might be good but at $495 rrp its also 2
 modems for the price of 3 or 4 :)

 http://www.netcomm.com.au/one/dcp_011.asp?product_id=55category_id=1

 dave

Why get 2 or 4 modems when you only want one :-)

What you are after is the Netcomm IN5710 an internal hardware PCI modem.

Not sure about the internals etc other than to say it's a REAL hardware
modem not even sure where to pick them up (or even if you can retail) but
that's what your after.

If you have any trouble finding them let me know.

Dan.





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Re: [SLUG] PCI Real Modem

2002-08-28 Thread David Kempe

 Not sure about the internals etc other than to say it's a REAL hardware
 modem not even sure where to pick them up (or even if you can retail) but
 that's what your after.

harris have them for $118

dave

www.ht.com.au


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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Alan L Tyree

Thanks Peter and to all who helped enlighten me. Would love to have a
faster connection, but $$$ and Telstra silliness currently keep me at 56K.

 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Just to add my 0.02 worth,
 
 Remember that a PSDN modem doesn't send and receive at the same time,
 
 All that download traffic has to have reply packets going back up
 the line saying send the next packet.
 
 So you will never get 56Kbit download speeds with tcp.
 
   5.5Kbyte * 8 = 44Kbit, I'd be pretty happy with that.
 
 Also IIRC, 56K is one direction only, the packets going back are 33K.
 
 Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a tad
 faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)
 
 HTH
 
 Pete
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks Peter and to all who helped enlighten me. Would love to have a
 faster connection, but $$$ and Telstra silliness currently keep me at
 56K.

Nothing wrong with 56k modem, I will be going back to my bigpond direct 56k 
permanent modem, just as soon as I organise it and pay the setup charge. If I 
have to use a modem, then I want my permanent service again.

Cheers
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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Matthew Dalton

Jon Biddell wrote:
 [...] and Telstra claim that their PSTN lines are rated at 2400 baud
 only !!!)

'baud' and 'bits per second' aren't the same thing.

'baud' means 'number of line state changes per second', but modems
faster than 2400 baud use multiple states, each one representing
different combinations of bits.

For example , if we have 4 states: 00, 01, 10 and 11, at 2400 baud we
will get 4800 bits/second.

Telstra's lines are rated at 2400 baud, but that doesn't mean we can't
get 33600 bps out of them :)

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Jon Biddell

At 29/08/2002  09:38, Matthew Dalton wrote:
Jon Biddell wrote:
  [...] and Telstra claim that their PSTN lines are rated at 2400 baud
  only !!!)

'baud' and 'bits per second' aren't the same thing.


snip

I was oversymplifying, but yes you are completely correct

I guess the upshot of all this is Telstra are useless, but then we 
already knew that...

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Re: [SLUG] PCI Real Modem

2002-08-28 Thread John Ferlito

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:32:09AM +1000, David Kempe wrote:
  Not sure about the internals etc other than to say it's a REAL hardware
  modem not even sure where to pick them up (or even if you can retail) but
  that's what your after.
 
 harris have them for $118

I like the description on the harris web site

in a clear bag in the back. no software

Thanks guys

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread David Fitch

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:12:08PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote:
  Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a tad
  faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)

yes I was somewhat surprised, I get 7KB/sec
and the symmetrical (and synch) is good for ssh.
 
 You can still get it if you can't get ADSL, but at $1k/month plus data charges 
 for 64k !!!

not for ISDN DoV!
mine is effectively $21pm + approx 60c pm for calls, plus data
(I redial automatically on sunday nights to reset my download quota).

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:12:08PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote:
   Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a
 tad
   faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)
 
 yes I was somewhat surprised, I get 7KB/sec
 and the symmetrical (and synch) is good for ssh.
  
  You can still get it if you can't get ADSL, but at $1k/month plus data
 charges 
  for 64k !!!
 
 not for ISDN DoV!
 mine is effectively $21pm + approx 60c pm for calls, plus data
 (I redial automatically on sunday nights to reset my download quota).
 

I'd love to go DoV isdn, if only I could find a ISP in my area that would 
support it, and not try and charge you double the standard ISP charges for the 
use of it.

grumbles
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Re[2]: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread evilbunny

Hello Michael,

http://www.traverse.com.au/general/isps.asp

list of DoV capable ISP's

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Thursday, August 29, 2002, 11:25:11 AM, you wrote:

MF Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:12:08PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote:
   Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a
 tad
   faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)
 
 yes I was somewhat surprised, I get 7KB/sec
 and the symmetrical (and synch) is good for ssh.
  
  You can still get it if you can't get ADSL, but at $1k/month plus data
 charges 
  for 64k !!!
 
 not for ISDN DoV!
 mine is effectively $21pm + approx 60c pm for calls, plus data
 (I redial automatically on sunday nights to reset my download quota).
 

MF I'd love to go DoV isdn, if only I could find a ISP in my area that would 
MF support it, and not try and charge you double the standard ISP charges for the 
MF use of it.

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Re: Re[2]: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting evilbunny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Michael,
 
 http://www.traverse.com.au/general/isps.asp
 
 list of DoV capable ISP's
 
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 Best regards,
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Thanks,

But I have been over this list a number of times in the last 12-18 months... as 
I stated problem, is most places want to charge a packet... which means its not 
worth it.

Oh well I wait longer..

I would of joined apana by now, but umm having a little issues talking with the 
fellow I am going to peer with, since he is so busy. At this stage either 
services would be good :P
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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread David Fitch

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:25:11AM +1000, Michael Fox wrote:
 I'd love to go DoV isdn, if only I could find a ISP in my area that would 
 support it, and not try and charge you double the standard ISP charges for the 
 use of it.

most charge the same as 56k modem access.
I don't know what your area is but check the list at
http://www.traverse.com.au/general/isps.asp

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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:25:11AM +1000, Michael Fox wrote:
  I'd love to go DoV isdn, if only I could find a ISP in my area that
 would 
  support it, and not try and charge you double the standard ISP charges
 for the 
  use of it.
 
 most charge the same as 56k modem access.
 I don't know what your area is but check the list at
 http://www.traverse.com.au/general/isps.asp

Campbelltown, and only one isp springs out of the list, and personally, I 
wouldn't use them. But then again the pricing, is pretty bad too.

Thanks for all the info ;P
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[SLUG] Help with Pine config

2002-08-28 Thread Howard Lowndes

In Pine you can use the display-filters setting to decrypt PGP encoded
emails on the fly

There appears to be two triggers:
_LEADING(BEGIN PGP)_
_BEGINNING(-BEGIN PGP)_

The first will only work if the message body starts with the trigger
phrase whereas the second will decrypt PGP code anywhere in the message
body.

The problem is that the second trigger _only_ returns the decrypted
portion of the email.

What I want is for that decrypted portion to be returned in the context of
the entire email message body.

Any assistance out there?

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