Re: [SLUG] Gentoo/Redhat: time

2003-07-06 Thread John McQuillen
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 15:17, Brett wrote:

 I have found some documented examples of using clock and hwclock (it's 
 amazing what you find after a computer break:-) , but they still do not 
 seem to work (and give the same I gave previously). I have tried the following:
 
 hwclock --set --date=7 Jul 2003 14:32
 hwclock --set --date=07 Jul 2003 14:32
 clock --set --date=7 Jul 2003 14:32
 clock --set --date=07 Jul 2003 14:32
 
 AFAIK these commands are valid, can anybody tell me why they might not be 
 OR does anybody know of a statically linked binary of a network time program?
 
The following works for me on Mandrake 9.1:

date --set 07/06/03 16:24:00  #Note that date uses US date format.
hwclock --systohc

I hope that it works the same for you...

Cheers,

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[SLUG] What talks do you want at SLUG meetings?

2003-07-06 Thread Mary Gardiner
The committee seeks opinions from SLUG:

We're presently trying to aim our selection of talks at as broad a
spectrum of users as possible -- our regulars range from newbies to
old hands. We don't want to run exclusively old hand talks, but we
also don't want to cater only to newbies. This is a hard balance to
achieve, so we'd like some input about what you'd like to see at SLUG
meetings.

What talks would you like to see at a SLUG meeting? (If you've never
been to a meeting, answer the question What talk would lure you to your
first ever meeting?)

I'd also be interested in hearing about what you aren't interested in
hearing about at SLUG meetings.

An example response is something like: I'm a home user, I want to hear
about using the Web and reading my email on Linux, I don't want to hear
about configuring a web server on Linux.

Feel free to suggest some specific talks that you'd like to see.

-Mary

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[SLUG] Squid + Winbind + squirrelmail

2003-07-06 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi,

I have a server with squirrelmail and cyrus (admin, common, imapd)
install and samba + winbind.

My question has any one gotten cyrus to authenticate users against a NT
domain using winbind through pam ?


I have been trying this, testing with squirrelmail.

I have setup winbind, getent passwd shows unix users and NT users
wbinfo -u domain\\user%password authenticate (but not challange
responce, just plain text)

I know I have configured squirrelmail and cyrus okay, I logged into
cyrus with a unix userid/password (cyradm and created my mailbox), sent
mail to the mailbox.  Logged into squirrelmail and viewed the mail.

I have updated the /etc/pam.d/cyrus file to include winbind (actually
removed the unix module and I was still able to login worrying)

but still can't login with the NT domain userids.

for example

cyradmin -u domain+username localhost

 (asks for password)enter password

application-specific initialization failed: authentication failed

I have tried different case.

So my questions are any pointers, can this be done ?
Why does my changing the /etc/pam.d/cyrus files have no affect on the
cyrus login ? (i restarted the passwd checker)

Another side question can I alias the userid's  given back from winbind
look like ad+test, is there any way to associate it with a mailbox
called test.

such that login id is ad+test, but the email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks




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Re: [SLUG] I Need Help Please.

2003-07-06 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi

I am debian user not sure if the dial system is the same on mandrake. but
if you try

pon
plog

This should tell your system to dial and login (pon) and the plog should
give you access to the dial relative log entries.  It will tell you if you
have connected to the ISP and authenticated, should also give you some
error reasons if not.

as for the default gateway, if there is one in place, then pppd will not
set up a default route and all you traffic will stay going where it is
going, so if you have it set to the local lan somewhere, then when you
attempt to access the internet your only going to talk to the local lan.

Try removeing the default gatway if all you have is a locallan

Alex

 hi ken

 i m new to linux myself so u need to pardon my rather amatuerish attempt
 here

 i did have problems logging onto my ISP using mandrake 9 and a dialup
 account
 and this was mostly due to me installing too many options in the first
 instance and than not reading the errata on

 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/90errata.php3

 part of which said ...

 
 Error scenario: You have an ethernet card for the local LAN and a modem
 for
 internet access and you can't reach the internet.

 Why: Drakconnect wrongly asks for a gateway, and ppp can't set your modem
 connection as the default route.

 Solution: As root, edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the
 GATEWAY
 entry.
 ...

 of cos .. i dunno if that is really ur problem as i m only guessing at ur
 setup here ...

 unfortunately i can't help u with the firewall setup in mandrake 9 as i do
 not
 use it.. maybe when i get better at this linux thang i'll check it out ..

 as others before me have stated.. a firewall is probably best served using
 a
 dedicated machine ... and this i have done so using smoothwall... of cos
 ..
 it is only very very basic .. but it'll do for the time being.. i can't
 wait
 until i m good enuff to roll my own :))

 hope this helps u a bit

 m
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Re: [SLUG] What talks do you want at SLUG meetings?

2003-07-06 Thread Nik Belajcic
Mary Gardiner wrote:

The committee seeks opinions from SLUG:

We're presently trying to aim our selection of talks at as broad a
spectrum of users as possible -- our regulars range from newbies to
old hands. We don't want to run exclusively old hand talks, but we
also don't want to cater only to newbies. This is a hard balance to
achieve, so we'd like some input about what you'd like to see at SLUG
meetings.
What talks would you like to see at a SLUG meeting? (If you've never
been to a meeting, answer the question What talk would lure you to your
first ever meeting?)
I'd also be interested in hearing about what you aren't interested in
hearing about at SLUG meetings.
An example response is something like: I'm a home user, I want to hear
about using the Web and reading my email on Linux, I don't want to hear
about configuring a web server on Linux.
Feel free to suggest some specific talks that you'd like to see.

-Mary

PS Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to me personally.

 

With any meaningfull exposure to Linux only measured in months, I 
consider myself very much a novice. I have set up three machines within 
that period (mail/proxy server + firewall, file server and router, with 
a few more on the way) and had to acquire some working understanding of 
Squid, Postfix, Procmail, Fetchmail, Courier, IMAP maildirs, MySQL, 
basic IP tables and NAT. I still have to face Bind, Apache, Free/Swan, 
innd and pidentd in the short term - like, next month or two - which is 
where my immediate interest would be with respect to possible topics. 
Other than that, I'll be tackling workstation issues in the near future 
with problems of mixing and matching components which tend to be very 
specific in their requirements - eg. drivers for Wildcat graphics cards 
require RH7.3 and motherboards with Intel 7505 chipset, but this 
combination does not work with something else that I need, etc. There 
are other, industry specific issues as well, but I don't expect much 
happening on that front in the next year or two.

Nik Belajcic.

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Re: [SLUG] Squid + Winbind + squirrelmail

2003-07-06 Thread Alexander Samad
Well another 1/2 hour of playing with it fixed most of my problems,
seems like there are 2 pwcheck programs, one compiled to check just
/etc/shadow and the other to use the pam modules!

so a quick reconfigure and bobs your uncle.


But I still want to be able to map login ids to mailbox/email address.

So that user ad+test has an email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Alex

On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:11:07PM +1000, Alexander Samad wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a server with squirrelmail and cyrus (admin, common, imapd)
 install and samba + winbind.
 
 My question has any one gotten cyrus to authenticate users against a NT
 domain using winbind through pam ?
 
 
 I have been trying this, testing with squirrelmail.
 
 I have setup winbind, getent passwd shows unix users and NT users
 wbinfo -u domain\\user%password authenticate (but not challange
 responce, just plain text)
 
 I know I have configured squirrelmail and cyrus okay, I logged into
 cyrus with a unix userid/password (cyradm and created my mailbox), sent
 mail to the mailbox.  Logged into squirrelmail and viewed the mail.
 
 I have updated the /etc/pam.d/cyrus file to include winbind (actually
 removed the unix module and I was still able to login worrying)
 
 but still can't login with the NT domain userids.
 
 for example
 
 cyradmin -u domain+username localhost
 
  (asks for password)enter password
 
 application-specific initialization failed: authentication failed
 
 I have tried different case.
 
 So my questions are any pointers, can this be done ?
 Why does my changing the /etc/pam.d/cyrus files have no affect on the
 cyrus login ? (i restarted the passwd checker)
 
 Another side question can I alias the userid's  given back from winbind
 look like ad+test, is there any way to associate it with a mailbox
 called test.
 
 such that login id is ad+test, but the email address is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks
 
 



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Re: [SLUG] urgent request

2003-07-06 Thread Shaun Oliver
hahahahahaha.
these scammers obviously got no brains. and how the hell did they manage
to email to the list seeing how it's a hidden list anyway?
unless of course they subscribed, lol alot of trouble just to gain a few
suckers,

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Re: [SLUG] urgent request

2003-07-06 Thread Tony Green
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 16:50, Shaun Oliver wrote:
 hahahahahaha.
 these scammers obviously got no brains. and how the hell did they manage
 to email to the list seeing how it's a hidden list anyway?
 unless of course they subscribed, lol alot of trouble just to gain a few
 suckers,

It isn't a hidden list, both the list and the archives are public
(though email addresses are munged in the archives).

 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ: 76958435
 YAHOO: blindman01_2000
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AIM: captain nemo 200
 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:
 IRCNICK: blindman
 CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun

Wooohhhaa, afraid people might not be able to contact you?

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Re: [SLUG] Squid + Winbind + squirrelmail

2003-07-06 Thread Simon Bryan
Alexander Samad said:
 Well another 1/2 hour of playing with it fixed most of my problems,
 seems like there are 2 pwcheck programs, one compiled to check just
 /etc/shadow and the other to use the pam modules!

 so a quick reconfigure and bobs your uncle.


 But I still want to be able to map login ids to mailbox/email address.

 So that user ad+test has an email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] not
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you set 'use default domain = yes' in smb.conf (check the actual command) that
did the trick for me, users now don't have to login with the domain+username.



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Re: [SLUG] Squid + Winbind + squirrelmail

2003-07-06 Thread Alexander Samad
Nope but I did try 

winbind use default domain = yes - whihc gave me an error, not sure
where I got it from.

Any way will give it a go and see what happens

Thanks

On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 08:29:26AM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote:
 Alexander Samad said:
  Well another 1/2 hour of playing with it fixed most of my problems,
  seems like there are 2 pwcheck programs, one compiled to check just
  /etc/shadow and the other to use the pam modules!
 
  so a quick reconfigure and bobs your uncle.
 
 
  But I still want to be able to map login ids to mailbox/email address.
 
  So that user ad+test has an email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] not
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Have you set 'use default domain = yes' in smb.conf (check the actual command) that
 did the trick for me, users now don't have to login with the domain+username.
 
 
 
 Simon Bryan
 IT Manager
 OLMC Parramatta
 


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Re: [SLUG] Newbie here.. a few basic dumb questions.

2003-07-06 Thread mkraus

G'day...

Re: 3.

Is your current directory set in your path? If not you'll need to supply a path to the executable

Ie. Instead of executing `a.out` you will need to execute `./a.out` or `/path/to/a.out`

gcc will produce files with the execute bit set.

Warmest regards

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Subject:[SLUG] Newbie here.. a few basic dumb questions.


Hi,

I appreciate the help.

I am running Redhat 6.0. Gnome Enlightenment.

1) I know that I must run pump to get my machine to
look for a DHCP server to get it's IP address.
I also know that I must put this pump /sbin/ifup to
make it run automatically, but I am not sure exactly
where to place it to ensure that it is run for all
occasions.

2) I have a Compaq Qvision 172 monitor and a SiS2326
video chipset. However, the screen still looks
somewhat bulky and not as hi-res as I would have
expected. Is there any way to find out exactly what I
can do?

3) I tried just a basic Hello world C prog to test
out gcc and g++ however, when I try to run the a.out,
it won't recognise it as an executable. Do I need to
link this file in some way? I've tried using chmod to
force it to be executable but to no avail.

Thanks in advance.

L.



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Re: [SLUG] I Need Help Please.

2003-07-06 Thread mkraus

Ken Another question is the gateway would this need to be configured as is 
Ken same as machine IP - 192.168.0.1 - even in the example of what can go in 
Ken the gateway IP block via help block?

Err... no if the machine is the gateway itself leave it blank or put in the address of the gateway/router as supplied by your ISP. (If they haven't leave it blank.)

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[SLUG] LDAP: perldap

2003-07-06 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
G'day,

I'm trying to get my hand with LDAP. Does anyone know
how to set-up ldap for the m$ outlook address book
database? What fields should be in? Googling only
directing me to set up the outlook connection to the
LDAP server, nothing more... :(

I read that webmin has a 3rd party modeule for LDAP.
For that purpose, I need to install Nestcape LDAP SDK
(done) and perldap (from www.mozilla.og/directory)

In the how_to_install_perldap, after extracting the gz
file, I need to do perl Makefile.PL if there is no
error, do make

The problem is that I'm having no error with perl
Makefile.PL but I cant do the make. The terminal
show me 1 error which I couldn't figure it out what
happen. I attached a txt file copy_paste from the
terminal. Could someone please guide me whats wrong
with it?

Best Regards,


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Re: [SLUG] What talks do you want at SLUG meetings?

2003-07-06 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 20:02, Mary Gardiner wrote:

 What talks would you like to see at a SLUG meeting? (If you've never
 been to a meeting, answer the question What talk would lure you to your
 first ever meeting?)

I enjoy talks about:
* Open Source project status / capabilities / politics in my sphere's of
interest: development, networking, home user and corporate desktop
replacement, personal digital video records,... the list goes on.
* Humour and the lighter side from time to time...

In terms of specific talks, I'd -love- to have someone who has built a
PVR based around linux, with infra-red onscreen remote, compatible with
Foxtel (not replacing the decoder, just replacing my existing VCR) talk
about what they needed to do, and how happy they are with the solution.
It's on my low-priority todo list to finish investigating the needed
hardware, and then start fiddling with one of the projects around, but
it's often the case that one can jump start very quickly with exposure
to a successful like-project.

 I'd also be interested in hearing about what you aren't interested in
 hearing about at SLUG meetings.

There aren't many topics that I'm not interested in, and the choice of
intro or indepth for me will depend on how well I know the topic...

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Re: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap

2003-07-06 Thread Andrew McNaughton

This looks like the critical line in the error listing:

API.c:53:23: ldap_ssl.h: No such file or directory

What's supposed to provide that file?  Perhaps there's something you're
supposed to have installed first?

Andrew



On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Phillipus Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap

 G'day,

 I'm trying to get my hand with LDAP. Does anyone know
 how to set-up ldap for the m$ outlook address book
 database? What fields should be in? Googling only
 directing me to set up the outlook connection to the
 LDAP server, nothing more... :(

 I read that webmin has a 3rd party modeule for LDAP.
 For that purpose, I need to install Nestcape LDAP SDK
 (done) and perldap (from www.mozilla.og/directory)

 In the how_to_install_perldap, after extracting the gz
 file, I need to do perl Makefile.PL if there is no
 error, do make

 The problem is that I'm having no error with perl
 Makefile.PL but I cant do the make. The terminal
 show me 1 error which I couldn't figure it out what
 happen. I attached a txt file copy_paste from the
 terminal. Could someone please guide me whats wrong
 with it?

 Best Regards,


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Re: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap

2003-07-06 Thread Del
Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
G'day,

I'm trying to get my hand with LDAP. Does anyone know
how to set-up ldap for the m$ outlook address book
database?
Can't be done.

MS outlook doesn't use LDAP for its address book database.
You may be thinking of MS exchange.
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Re: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap

2003-07-06 Thread Anthony Wood
ldap_ssh.h should be part of the netscape client libraries.

Find the file on your system (should be /usr/local/lib or similar)
and make sure your Makefiule includes that directory in the library path.

But more importantly you need to install some sort of ldap server,
e.g. OpenLDAP.  This will give webmin something to manage,
and M$ Outlook something to connect to.

cheers,
Woody

On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:40:29PM +1200, Andrew McNaughton wrote:
 
 This looks like the critical line in the error listing:
 
 API.c:53:23: ldap_ssl.h: No such file or directory
 
 What's supposed to provide that file?  Perhaps there's something you're
 supposed to have installed first?
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
 
  Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
  From: Phillipus Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap
 
  G'day,
 
  I'm trying to get my hand with LDAP. Does anyone know
  how to set-up ldap for the m$ outlook address book
  database? What fields should be in? Googling only
  directing me to set up the outlook connection to the
  LDAP server, nothing more... :(
 
  I read that webmin has a 3rd party modeule for LDAP.
  For that purpose, I need to install Nestcape LDAP SDK
  (done) and perldap (from www.mozilla.og/directory)
 
  In the how_to_install_perldap, after extracting the gz
  file, I need to do perl Makefile.PL if there is no
  error, do make
 
  The problem is that I'm having no error with perl
  Makefile.PL but I cant do the make. The terminal
  show me 1 error which I couldn't figure it out what
  happen. I attached a txt file copy_paste from the
  terminal. Could someone please guide me whats wrong
  with it?
 
  Best Regards,
 
 
  Phillipus.
 
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Re: [SLUG] LDAP: perldap

2003-07-06 Thread Anthony Wood
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:50:49AM +1000, Del wrote:
 Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
  G'day,
  
  I'm trying to get my hand with LDAP. Does anyone know
  how to set-up ldap for the m$ outlook address book
  database?
 
 Can't be done.
 
 MS outlook doesn't use LDAP for its address book database.
 You may be thinking of MS exchange.

Outlook has basically two types of address books:
1) Contacts
and
2) Address Books

Outlook presents its contacts as an address book for certain operations,
but it can't do the reverse.  Outlook can also present LDAP data as
and address book.  Outlook can't present LDAP data as contacts (AFAIK)
for that you need MSExchange or perhaps SUSE openExchange can do it too.

Here is what I have used outlook 98 (in 1998) for with Netscape Directory (LDAP) 
server:

1) Type a name in the To: box which matches an LDAP entry and have it look up the name
automatically and get the correct address

2) Click on the To: Button in an email message and bring up the address book interface
One of the sources in there is my LDAP server, and I can see everyone on that server's
name, and click on them.

For you:

1) maybe newer versions of Outlook have the functionality you are looking for
2) maybe outlook express (completely different program to outlook) is what you
are using and will do what you want 
3) maybe Outlook Shared folders will do what you want.

cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] urgent request

2003-07-06 Thread PaulWB


Since when has this list been hidden,  you can search the slug list on
google,   I have found a number of my post to slug on google.

Paul.


On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Shaun Oliver wrote:

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[SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Hope
There have been mumbings and some comments made about the current
location for the Debian Interest Group meetings - currently, the
Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel.

I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue
(good or bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.

Currently, I believe we need a location that
  - has food and drink nearby,
  - is accessable via public transport
  - is in a fairly central location

(please also feel free to add requirements, or dispute the ones I've
suggested)

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[SLUG] umask and pam_mkhomedir.so

2003-07-06 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi all,
I am trying to get pam_mkhomedir to create the users home directory with rwx--,
no matter what I ste the umsak to in the call to pam_mkhomedir in pam.login I get
rwxr-xr-x and this is allowing other users to browse into any users directory.

Note that this is on a LTSP server/client setup, and I am then using a mount command
to  mount their normal home directory insided their main home directory.

I also need a simple bash script that creates a directory if it doesn't exist

if directory/path does not exist
then mkdir directory/path
endif

Can anyone help me with either question, my new bash scripting tech is off on exams
at the moment.


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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Matt Hope

 I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue (good or
 bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.

WBH is great, and fulfills all the criteria, IMHO:

 Currently, I believe we need a location that
   - has food and drink nearby,

Good food and drink at the pub, almost always prompt service.

   - is accessable via public transport

Short wander from Wynyard.

   - is in a fairly central location

Short wander from Wynyard. ;-)

A point which wasn't on your list, which I think is important: Appropriate
venue for a meeting and discussion. WBH has the private function room, and
it's usually pretty quiet, unless there's a drunken office party there (rare
on Wednesday nights).

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Peter Hardy
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:16, Matt Hope wrote:
 Currently, I believe we need a location that
   - has food and drink nearby,
   - is accessable via public transport
   - is in a fairly central location

- Accessible to minors?

Debsig has traditionally been a fairly beery event (I blame Craige ;-),
but we do have a few younger members.  Are they interested in going?

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Re: [SLUG] umask and pam_mkhomedir.so

2003-07-06 Thread John Clarke
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:07:19PM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote:

 I also need a simple bash script that creates a directory if it doesn't exist
 
 if directory/path does not exist
 then mkdir directory/path
 endif

[ -a $dir ] || mkdir -p $dir

-a tests that nothing called `$dir' exists (file, directory, symlink,
etc).  mkdir -p creates a directory and and intermediate directories
needed.  So, if `a' exists but `b' doesn't, `mkdir a/b/c' will fail but
`mkdir -p a/b/c' will create both `b' and `c'.


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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Matt Hope wrote:

 There have been mumbings and some comments made about the current
 location for the Debian Interest Group meetings - currently, the
 Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel.

Not too bad, but it tends to be a bit noisy.  It also fails on your public
transport requirement - it's not near public transport, IMO.  Better than,
say, Miller would be (look it up on your outer outer western Sydney maps),
but it's still not particularly close to the Train station.

 I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue
 (good or bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.
 
 Currently, I believe we need a location that
   - has food and drink nearby,
   - is accessable via public transport
   - is in a fairly central location

- Doesn't cost much to hire (which I believe is one of the problems voiced
with the WBH).  Considering the amount of food and drink bought (especially
since there are at least 3 separate-but-associated meetings held there over
the course of the average month) surely they'd be making their costs back on
it...

- Matt


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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Hardy

 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:16, Matt Hope wrote:
  Currently, I believe we need a location that
- has food and drink nearby,
- is accessable via public transport
- is in a fairly central location
 
 - Accessible to minors?
 
 Debsig has traditionally been a fairly beery event (I blame Craige ;-),
 but we do have a few younger members.  Are they interested in going?

WBH is okay, if parents/guardians are present, but it's a weeknight anyway,
so might not be appropriate for other reasons. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Matthew Palmer

 - Doesn't cost much to hire (which I believe is one of the problems voiced
 with the WBH).  Considering the amount of food and drink bought
 (especially since there are at least 3 separate-but-associated meetings
 held there over the course of the average month) surely they'd be making
 their costs back on it...

There has been some work done to alleviate that, but the Main Man there is
sometimes difficult to get a hold of. :-) I'm hoping it will be less of a
problem in future, once we can forge an agreement.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Matt Hope
 
  I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue
  (good or bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.
 
 WBH is great, and fulfills all the criteria, IMHO:

I've heard these critiques elsewhere:

 - not overly safe at night
 - under 18s can't attend

I've walked to WBH exactly once at night, and it's not an experience I'm
that keen to repeat (not that anything terrible happened).

I don't attend DebSIG and I'm not all that likely to become a regular,
so take these for what they're worth :)

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Peter Hardy
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:43, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Peter Hardy
 
  On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:16, Matt Hope wrote:
   Currently, I believe we need a location that
 - has food and drink nearby,
 - is accessable via public transport
 - is in a fairly central location
  
  - Accessible to minors?
  
  Debsig has traditionally been a fairly beery event (I blame Craige ;-),
  but we do have a few younger members.  Are they interested in going?
 
 WBH is okay, if parents/guardians are present, but it's a weeknight anyway,
 so might not be appropriate for other reasons. :-)

I'm not entirely sure the average parent would really want to know what
goes on at those things, though. ;-)

But yeah, I think it's much more of a hassle if you need to be
escorted.  Perhaps it's time to relegate the beery shenanigans to
post-meeting.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Mary Gardiner

 I've heard these critiques elsewhere:
 
  - not overly safe at night
  - under 18s can't attend

Oh, and parking is not always very safe. To the car. Or belongings inside.

Hmm.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Partition resize...

2003-07-06 Thread John McQuillen
Hi everyone,

I have just moved my Mandrake 9.1 installation to a larger hard drive. I
created partitions on the new drive with larger sizes to fill the new
drive, then cloned the partitions from the old drive one at a time with
Norton Ghost. After recreating the boot loader from the rescue disk, my
system has booted and everything works A-OK.
The only problem is that although Diskdrake shows the new partitions at
the new sizes, df still reports the old sizes and free space. It appears
that the file systems have not grown to fit the new partitions. Is there
anything that I can do to fix this, or do I have to start again?

Thanks in advance for any help,

John...
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Re: [Debian-au] Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Hope
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ranted...

- is accessable via public transport
 
 Short wander from Wynyard.
 
- is in a fairly central location
 
 Short wander from Wynyard. ;-)

I'd disagree here - its not exactly a short wander, and its not
exactly safe (you have a choice of walking through the dark domain at
night, or up to taylor square) . This, I think is the main detractor
of WBH.

 A point which wasn't on your list, which I think is important: Appropriate
 venue for a meeting and discussion. WBH has the private function room, and
 it's usually pretty quiet, unless there's a drunken office party there (rare
 on Wednesday nights).

This is a good, valid point.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread mkraus

G'day...

Mary's experience isn't unsuprising. Woolloomooloo has a high number of vagrants living in and around the area. The closest train station is Kings Cross.

To get from the Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel to the train station, you are forced to walk through this area and the walk is about fifteen minutes uphill often where it isn't well lit and there aren't many other people around. Going to another train station or next point of public transport you also need to walk for a similar period of time, often through parts where you don't really see many other people. (Read propensity for danger late at night.)

I'm pretty damn confident walking the streets of Sydney at any time - but I wouldn't really recommend this area to be doing that in.

Warmest regards

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On Mon, Jul 07, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Matt Hope
 
  I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue
  (good or bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.
 
 WBH is great, and fulfills all the criteria, IMHO:

I've heard these critiques elsewhere:

 - not overly safe at night
 - under 18s can't attend

I've walked to WBH exactly once at night, and it's not an experience I'm
that keen to repeat (not that anything terrible happened).

I don't attend DebSIG and I'm not all that likely to become a regular,
so take these for what they're worth :)

-Mary
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[SLUG] Partition resize...

2003-07-06 Thread Peter Chubb
 John == John McQuillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John Hi everyone, I have just moved my Mandrake 9.1 installation to a
John larger hard drive. I created partitions on the new drive with
John larger sizes to fill the new drive, then cloned the partitions
John from the old drive one at a time with Norton Ghost. After

All this `clone' operation did was copy the data.  So now you have
small filesystems on large partitions.  I very much doubt if *any*
Norton utility understands whatever filesystem type your installation
uses, so as to change its layout to fill the new partition.

Your best bet is to throw away what you've done and start again, this
time using tar, cpio or similar to clone the filesystems.

For example:

mkfs -t xfs /dev/hdb1
mkfs -t xfs /dev/hdb2
mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/home
(assuming you have a /home partition on /dev/hdb2, a root partition on
/dev/hdb1 and you want to use XFS as your filesystem)

find /  -depth -print | cpio -pdm --sparse /mnt

(edit /mnt/etc/fstab to swap /dev/hda and /dev/hdb)

umount /mnt/home
umount /mnt

Then edit /etc/lilo to boot with root=/dev/hdb1


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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 13:13, Peter Hardy wrote:


 I'm not entirely sure the average parent would really want to know what
 goes on at those things, though. ;-)
 
 But yeah, I think it's much more of a hassle if you need to be
 escorted.  Perhaps it's time to relegate the beery shenanigans to
 post-meeting.

Not sure about you, but if I'm going to travel midweek for ~ 1hr to ,
and then ~1hr from a 1-2 hour meeting, some food is essential - and the
social lubricant good to.

Not that I'd stop coming if we moved that to after-meeting, but

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Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 13:06, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Mary Gardiner
 
  I've heard these critiques elsewhere:
  
   - not overly safe at night
   - under 18s can't attend
 
 Oh, and parking is not always very safe. To the car. Or belongings inside.
 
 Hmm.

So, capping up:
Currently, I believe we need a location that
  - has food and drink nearby,
  - is 'safely' accessable via public transport
  - is in a fairly central location
  - meeting room
  - ?? under 18s without escort ??
  - reasonable costs
  - 'safe' for those driving post-work



WBH doesn't meet several of those requirements, and off-hand nothing
comes to mind that does. Mind you - that's off-hand.

So, can I suggest that anyone who can come up with alternatives simply
name them? IMO All the requirements are must-haves with one exception -
the under 18s w/out escort.

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Re: [SLUG] Partition resize...

2003-07-06 Thread Douglas Stalker


 
 I have just moved my Mandrake 9.1 installation to a larger hard drive.


 The only problem is that although Diskdrake shows the new partitions
at
 the new sizes, df still reports the old sizes and free space. It appears
 that the file systems have not grown to fit the new partitions. Is
there
 anything that I can do to fix this, or do I have to start again?

The utility 'resize2fs' can resize ext2 and ext3 filesystems
to take up the entire partition without losing any data (but backup beforehand
just to make sure. :-) By default, it will grow the filesystem
to fill the partition. 'man resize2fs' will have more details.

Knoppix includes resize2fs, which makes it easy to
boot up off the CD and resize the partitions on the hard-drive.

If you're using reiser fs, try using the resize_reiserfs
utility instead.

- Doug
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[SLUG] mandrake 9.1 cdrom and sound

2003-07-06 Thread Wayne Crich








  This sounds like two dumb questions. After years of using RedHat i 
  have set a machine up with mandrake.
  
  Two simple problems:
  
  1) No sound - Yet card is configured correctly and volume is set 
  above 0.
  
  2) Cd drives cannot be read from. They are there and mounted but 
  appear locked in KDE browser.
  
  Any help would be appreciated
  
  Thank You
  
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[SLUG] Re: [Debian-au] Debian SIG Location..

2003-07-06 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:16:18PM +1000, Matt Hope wrote:
 There have been mumbings and some comments made about the current
 location for the Debian Interest Group meetings - currently, the
 Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel.
 
 I'm interested if anyone has any comments about the current venue
 (good or bad), and any possible alternative suggestions.
 
 Currently, I believe we need a location that
   - has food and drink nearby,
   - is accessable via public transport
To me that is the #1 problem with it.  I like the place itself but
walking through the park in the dark (and it gets real dark as most of
the few lights dont work) by yourself is not too much fun.

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