[SLUG] The final Word
I've had it - deal with the SPAM issue at the next meeting - mind you, I'd be interested to know how many members there are vs. how many psople subscribed to the list that won't be represented, but never mind SLUG had the future of being a great resource, except for the bitchiness and backbiting of certain members (you know who you are)... You may sleep well in the knowledge that you *may* have fscked it for all. As I have absolutely no doubt that my suggestion will be ignored / voted down / whatever, I'm going to dseal with the spam in my own way. By bouncing each and every spam I receive from this list back to the committee members... Not childish when you think of it - if it's only this way that they can be made aware of their responsibilities, then so be it. Agree or don't - I don't give a fuck anymore... No, I'm not subscribing, but I AM watching... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] copying whole disks with knoppix
Tony Green wrote: that dd command so it might work - i just found dd to be really slow for even an 8GB drive. Usually caused by a lack of the option 'bs=8192k' (or similar) Make sure you have dma etc enabled on the drives too Could you expand on that please? ..reading man dd.. okay bs=x means read/write at that speed. I guess its dependent on the buffer of the harddrive your reading from and writing to. I think my case they will differ so i will have to specify the ibs/obs tags. Whats dma ? -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership
** Reply to note from Bruce Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29 Sep 2003 13:44:03 +1000 I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial experience with PayMate. Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing about any alternatives (except PayPal). Bruce, as I'd be interested hearing your feedback, I hope you can post here. tia, Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership
Dave Airlie wrote: http://www.paypalsucks.com/ I have had no experience with paypal but given sites such as these I would be wary. I have used kagi (something like that) to pay for some sofware last year and there are many other alternatives to paypal which dont seem to have to anti-web sites. this is a very false logic.. one I wouldn't ever trust.. the reason paypal as an anti-paypal site is because paypal is the most popular and most widely used, just like Windows gets more virusses as its just more widely used than Linux :-) and of course it has issues, just because one of the others hasn't got an anti-web site may be more to do with underuse and non-discovery of issues than anything else.. Just like Linux :-) and Del replied Not wanting to start another flamewar but: (a) don't believe everything you read on the internet (*). I didnt believe, I said I would be wary. I would only believe it if I saw a report like that on the News like C :-) (b) searching through historical archives you will find that this site was set up by a Paypal competitor. Caveat emptor. a reference ? You might be right too. Good to see that we have some scepticism in SLUG :-) Mike (ignore legal crap below) UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [chat] The final Word
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Re: [SLUG] The final Word
Do be honest Jon if you ever do what's proposed here (the bouncing) I would pay up and table a motion to have you removed from the SLUG mailing list, you complain that you get some spam, and you have to pay for it.. awww poor you, you then end up paying probably 100 times as much generating crap like this and receiving crap like this back from list members.. if you dont like the list operating procedure get off the list... Dave. On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Jon Biddell wrote: I've had it - deal with the SPAM issue at the next meeting - mind you, I'd be interested to know how many members there are vs. how many psople subscribed to the list that won't be represented, but never mind SLUG had the future of being a great resource, except for the bitchiness and backbiting of certain members (you know who you are)... You may sleep well in the knowledge that you *may* have fscked it for all. As I have absolutely no doubt that my suggestion will be ignored / voted down / whatever, I'm going to dseal with the spam in my own way. By bouncing each and every spam I receive from this list back to the committee members... Not childish when you think of it - if it's only this way that they can be made aware of their responsibilities, then so be it. Agree or don't - I don't give a fuck anymore... No, I'm not subscribing, but I AM watching... -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The final Word
Jon, I doubt it will ever be your last word. By bouncing each and every spam I receive from this list back to the committee members... It's good to see you are taking a +ive approach that is constructive. I would love to be a committee member on your receiving end, my config of spamassassin would deal with your crap quick smart. :) IMHO (though it counts for very little) dealing with spam is the responsibility of those who use an e-mail client. Not childish when you think of it - if it's only this way that they can be made aware of their responsibilities, then so be it. beg to differ Agree or don't - I don't give a fuck anymore... No, I'm not subscribing, but I AM watching... Each to their own. -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
FW: [SLUG] This list has changed for the worst
Yes - ok agreed Mick. Sorry John Clarke, when I sent: John was only expressing his dislike for such spams... I meant Johnathon Kelly... just trying to defend him a bit, but I should have left it - I meant no harm. Apologies. Jared. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Damien Solley Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] This list has changed for the worst On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 01:45, Mick wrote: Hi all, I'm not far from Sydney, so if anyone takes exception to this critisim, I can easily make the next SLUG meeting. There are no FLAMERS on this post, hasn't been, shouldn't be. If you take exception to what is said in an email, leave it be... kick the dog, beat your partner, or whatever else you need to do to boost your ego. Don't infect the list with faceless, gutless rubbish. (ref to paragraph 1) This list is for people who; a. Are advanced enough to actually confuse the rest of us when they have problems b. Are advanced enough to actually help newbies when they are not helping each other. When I see take your head out of your arse on the SLUG mailing list, I know we have problems. That's Microsoft talk for I found the command line, nah nah! SLUG is above all that, Slug is about helping and nurturing a growing community. Slug is the public face of Linux for alot of Sydneysiders (and possibly much further a field). Slug is where you turn when Debian bites you on the arse and you somehow manage to get Pine or Mutt to send a big Linux SOS. If this mailing list degrades into some windows orientated flame war with a lot half wit know it alls telling people off because they know better, then I'll go back to using windows where I can avoid/ don't need to contact/associate/speak/type messages to people like that. So will alot of other people. Get it together SLUG, we depend on you, we depend on your knowledgable members and we more than ever we need a sense of community. Like I said, I am available anytime ... Flame this post and you'd better have it to front the next slug meeting, otherwise, your just datavapour ... For all who have kept the faith, and especially for our departing el presidenti and vice Brave, Encore, Encore, Encore! Mick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] The ludite is out
How good is it that Alston is no longer going to look after IT and the Arts. Can anyone explain why IT is bunched with such a crappy portfolio as the Arts. How was that marriage made? (to me it's like trying to mate a Great Dane with a miniature poodle match definitely not made in heaven) -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [chat] Re: [SLUG] The final Word
Hi everyone, Could we please keep this discussion on slug-chat, and preferbly keep it down to constructive criticism rather than flames. - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The final Word
This one time, at band camp, Dave Airlie wrote: Do be honest Jon if you ever do what's proposed here (the bouncing) I would pay up and table a motion to have you removed from the SLUG mailing list, I don't mind if he does, bogofilter will just catch them all and I'll never receive them. (ObRepeatingMyselfEvenThoughTheMessageNeverSeemsToSinkIn) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The ludite is out
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:35 pm, Kevin Saenz wrote: How good is it that Alston is no longer going to look after IT and the Arts. Can anyone explain why IT is bunched with such a crappy portfolio as the Arts. How was that marriage made? (to me it's like trying to mate a Great Dane with a miniature poodle match definitely not made in heaven) -- Regards, Kevin Saenz I'm reserving my relief or consternation until I see Alston's replacement. Seems ironic that the only sensible piece of legislation he ever tabled was the last one (the anti-spam stuff) seems he got it right in the end. Pity about all the other BS we've been lumped with (can anyone say digital television debacle??). Still it could be worse - imagine Amanda Vanstone taking Alston's seat?! Aye Carumba!! --James __ A random quote of nothing: La-dee-dee, la-dee-dah. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ? (fwd)
This got stopped for a suspicious header. Hmm, what qualifies as a suspicious header, please? I'll endeavour to make sure I don't have one again. :-) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:45:17 +1000 (EST) From: DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'SLUG' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ? On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Voytek wrote: I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? What does CTRL-ALT-F1 or CTRL-ALT-F2 get you? DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Voytek wrote: Hello, did you mean CTRL-ALT-BS ? uncertain if that is the key-combo you tried, cheers I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? kind regards Norm -- E-Solutions for BSD and Linux http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 17:51:58 +, Voytek wrote: I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? I sometimes find that in these cases you can still get remote access to the machine. So you could try to ssh in and shut it down cleanly that way. Of course this assumes you have network, another machine you can use, ssh setup and so forth, but it might help. Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 03:51, Voytek wrote: I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? I'm not sure if it's present in standard distribution kernels, but it may be worth trying the alt-sysrq key combos. In a nutshell, there's a handful of keystrokes (all involving holding Alt, hitting SysRq, then another key) that should always get a response, unless the kernel itself is locked up tight. At the very least, they'll let you sync your filesystems and mount them read-only, avoiding a fsck on reboot. If you have the kernel source installed, details of the Magic SysRq interface are in Documentation/sysrq.txt of your source tree. The article describing usage at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue81/vikas.html is also a fairly good read. Cheers, -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:51 am, Voytek wrote: I've just tried to switch to an X session from command line, and, it seems the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: is there any key combos to try just before I reach for the big red switch ? Voytek Eymont You *might* be able to telnet or ssh into the box assuming it's on a network and you have a spare machine. By the sounds of it you might be out of luck :-/ If it's a Sun box, STOP-A then do a SCSI reset has yielded some results for me in the past, but never from a multi-user run-level. YMMV. --James __ A random quote of nothing: A power so great, it can only be used for Good or Evil! -- Firesign Theatre, The Giant Rat of Summatra -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ? (fwd)
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, DaZZa wrote: Yes, my posting was bounced also. I suggested CTRL-ALT-BS, if not already tried.. cheers This got stopped for a suspicious header. Hmm, what qualifies as a suspicious header, please? I'll endeavour to make sure I don't have one again. :-) the machine locked up solid, the screen has starnge pattern, I can't switch back to char. mode session, CTRL-BS doesn't help, C-A-D does nothing: kind regards Norm -- E-Solutions for BSD and Linux http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Smtpfwdd + sendmail - Upgrade Potato - Woody
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Sluggers, (this is about a mail problem, which is why it's not from my normal address) I have upgraded our firewall from Debian Potato to Woody finally. Everything went smoothly apart from mail. We have smtpd installed which accepts the connections from outside, and sendmail which smtpfwdd (part of the smtpd package) calls to send the mail onwards and inwards. The problem manifests itself this way: MSP Queue status... /var/spool/mqueue-client (462 requests) -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient--- h8T303v4017724 144336 Mon Sep 29 13:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: Connection refused by [192.168.1.2]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip The MSP feature is controlled by /etc/mail/submit.mc the default version of the file had: FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]', `MSA')dnl so all my mailq had connection refused by [127.0.0.1] I searched the faq and found Q3.44 which suggested using: FEATURE(`msp', `smart_host')dnl instead of the default FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl so I tried that but got similar results (Deferred: Connection refused by beast.switchonline.com.au) Actually, I didn't try that, I tried: FEATURE(`msp', `beast', `MSA')dnl when I tried: FEATURE(`msp', `beast')dnl it worked. I have no idea why... cheers, Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The ludite is out
James Gray wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:35 pm, Kevin Saenz wrote:
How good is it that Alston is no longer going to look after
IT and the Arts.
Can anyone explain why IT is bunched with such a crappy portfolio as the
Arts. How was that marriage made? (to me it's like trying to mate a
Great Dane with a miniature poodle match definitely not made in heaven)
--
Regards,
Kevin Saenz
I'm reserving my relief or consternation until I see Alston's replacement.
Seems ironic that the only sensible piece of legislation he ever tabled was
the last one (the anti-spam stuff) seems he got it right in the end.
Well, not quiet. You can send spam so long as you are not commercial.
So charities will rip right in their now. 50% of faxes WOA received
(when it had a public fax number) were from charities wanting donations.
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[SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? I'm currently using ipac-ng, but as far as I can see, this only does accounting per protocol/ip. -- Sonia. Today's random Debian Linux package = nikto . Nikto is a pluggable web server and CGI scanner written in Perl, using rfp's LibWhisker to perform fast security or informational checks. . Features: * Easily updatable CSV-format checks database * Output reports in plain text or HTML * Available HTTP versions automatic switching * Generic as well as specific server software checks ... snip -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
Sonia, I can't see how you could really pull something that off without some serious application level proxying. there are SOCKs proxies that are pretty good - you can plug most non-web and mail apps into them. then you need to account web and mail traffic seperately and compile it all. let me know if you find anything. thats a difficult problem. dante is the SOCKs proxy we have used in the past for this sort of thing. then you just lock everything down, disable netaccess to everything but the SOCK, web or smtp/pop proxy and hope it accounts everything. - does it have to be /etc/passwd? dave - Original Message - From: Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
Sonia, I can't see how you could really pull something that off without some serious application level proxying. there are SOCKs proxies that are pretty good - you can plug most non-web and mail apps into them. then you need to account web and mail traffic seperately and compile it all. let me know if you find anything. thats a difficult problem. dante is the SOCKs proxy we have used in the past for this sort of thing. then you just lock everything down, disable netaccess to everything but the SOCK, web or smtp/pop proxy and hope it accounts everything. - does it have to be /etc/passwd? dave - Original Message - From: Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The ludite is out
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:33 pm, Terry Collins wrote: James Gray wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:35 pm, Kevin Saenz wrote: How good is it that Alston is no longer going to look after IT and the Arts. Kevin Saenz I'm reserving my relief or consternation until I see Alston's replacement. Seems ironic that the only sensible piece of legislation he ever tabled was the last one (the anti-spam stuff) seems he got it right in the end. Well, not quiet. You can send spam so long as you are not commercial. So charities will rip right in their now. 50% of faxes WOA received (when it had a public fax number) were from charities wanting donations. Terry Collins I agree with your observations regarding the anti-spam legislation proposal. My point was that this was the best he (Senator Alston) could manage and even /that/ was somewhat underwhelming :P --James __ A random quote of nothing: Stealing a rhinoceros should not be attempted lightly. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
- Original Message - From: David Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sonia, I can't see how you could really pull something that off without some serious application level proxying. there are SOCKs proxies that are pretty good - you can plug most non-web and mail apps into them. then you need to account web and mail traffic seperately and compile it all. let me know if you find anything. thats a difficult problem. replying to myself (sorry about the duplicate post before, had low bandwidth) freshmeat turns up this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/useripacct/?topic_id=152 which appears very out of date. probably your only chance tho. authenticated socks proxy is probably your best bet. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
From: Sonia Hamilton I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? Check, http://www.freeradius.org and/or http://www.fwtk.org Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
Sorry Oscar, I don't understand, how would freeradius help? dave - Original Message - From: Oscar Plameras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check, http://www.freeradius.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Firewall / router for BigPond
Guarddog is pretty good on Linux www.simonzone.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
we use ipacct from http://ramses.smeyers.be/homepage/useripacct/ on a system I used to admin, we used to update the patch by hand to whatever kernel we were runnning... (being kernel hackers helped a lot :-) Dave. On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Sonia Hamilton wrote: I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? I'm currently using ipac-ng, but as far as I can see, this only does accounting per protocol/ip. -- Sonia. Today's random Debian Linux package = nikto . Nikto is a pluggable web server and CGI scanner written in Perl, using rfp's LibWhisker to perform fast security or informational checks. . Features: * Easily updatable CSV-format checks database * Output reports in plain text or HTML * Available HTTP versions automatic switching * Generic as well as specific server software checks ... snip -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've looking for a package that allows me to do per-user accounting (ie bandwidth used for each user in /etc/passwd for different time periods/protocals/etc). Any pointers to a package I could use? I'm currently using ipac-ng, but as far as I can see, this only does accounting per protocol/ip. Since you're talking about /etc/passwd, then I'm assuming you're talking about accounting locally generated traffic, not routed traffic. If it's local traffic you're interested in, then iptables can match it with --uid-owner userid. I don't know if ipac-ng supports that switch, though. man iptables for a brief description of the uid match, as well as other switches you might find useful. If it's routed traffic you're interested, there should be some other approaches available. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
From: David Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry Oscar, I don't understand, how would freeradius help? Freeradius is the gpl version of 'radius' that does 'AAA' or 'Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting'. It may be configured to record 'connect time', duration, incoming traffic in bytes, outgoing traffic in bytes, and other things that get recorded into a log file. A script could then be written to summarise the log file info to obtain desired results. Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
- Original Message - From: Oscar Plameras [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be configured to record 'connect time', duration, incoming traffic in bytes, outgoing traffic in bytes, and other things that get recorded into a log file. A script could then be written to summarise the log file info to obtain desired results. that may be for ppp connections, but I am fairly sure the original poster wanted a per-user from a single host accouting solution. otherwise ipac-ng would provide adequate functionality dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] per user ip accounting suggestions?
From: David Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be configured to record 'connect time', duration, incoming traffic in bytes, outgoing traffic in bytes, and other things that get recorded into a log file. A script could then be written to summarise the log file info to obtain desired results. that may be for ppp connections, but I am fairly sure the original poster wanted a per-user from a single host accouting solution. otherwise ipac-ng would provide adequate functionality That was not clarified. That is why I cited an alternative, http://www.fwtk.org More selections and alternatives are better than one. Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
From: DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does CTRL-ALT-F1 or CTRL-ALT-F2 get you? nothing whatsover. I was in 1st or 2nd console, hit CTRL-ALT-F7, got the striped screen, tried going back with CTRL-ALT-F1/CTRL-ALT-F2, but, nothing From: guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, did you mean CTRL-ALT-BS ? uncertain if that is the key-combo you tried, cheers yes, sorry, CTRL-ALT-BS, it gave nothing From: Benno [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sometimes find that in these cases you can still get remote access to the machine. So you could try to ssh in and shut it down cleanly that way. Of course this assumes you have network, another machine you can use, ssh setup and so forth, but it might help. From: James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] You *might* be able to telnet or ssh into the box assuming it's on a network and you have a spare machine. By the sounds of it you might be out of luck ooops, ofcourse, I should've tried that... I guess I was to intent on keyboard combos... though, I think it was locked pretty solid.. From: Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure if it's present in standard distribution kernels, but it may be worth trying the alt-sysrq key combos. In a nutshell, there's a handful of keystrokes (all involving holding Alt, hitting SysRq, then another key) that should always get a response, unless the kernel itself is locked up tight. At the very least, they'll let you sync your filesystems and mount them read-only, avoiding a fsck on reboot. thanks, I'll try looking it up, not sure if the machine has source, though, it seems to have that 'sysreq' file: # cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq 0 # echo 1 /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq # cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq 1 anyhow, as I do not have physical access to the machine at this time, I best leave it alone at this point, though, I'll try tommorow as it was, I ended reaching for the big red switch, even though, it was neither red nor big. it actually came up pretty quick again, the fsck must've been very quick (it's only a 6GB HD) thanks, everyone, for all the hints Voytek Eymont Checked for Virus's by Asoft Email Scan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dealing with a 'locked up' machine B4 big red switch ?
** Reply to note from DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:50 +1000 (EST) This got stopped for a suspicious header. Hmm, what qualifies as a suspicious header, please? I'll endeavour to make sure I don't have one again. :-) DaZZa, guilty by association: I guess, it might have been a header from my original post: my mail client doesn't generate a message ID, that gets appended by the 1st MTA, and, I think that trips the 'inconpicous header parser'... sorry whilst on the subject of suspicious mails, spam, and the like: I finally flipped the switch to send my mail over to a RH/Postfix host, with some of the UCE /BL stuff enabled, only to find any traffic to me via the backup MX server, a teltra.net mail host gets bounced ny my own Postfix as the telstra host is apparently both an open relay, as well as, listed on spam cop...: Voytek Eymont Checked for Virus's by Asoft Email Scan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The final Word
Shaun, I am sorry I have never used exim. But this site might help. http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html or for exim3 dunno if it works with any other versions. http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ hi I use exim for smtp out and fetchmail to retrieve mail so where would I go from there? lol sorry dude never played with spam filters before, always had the luxury of being on a moderated list haha -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found [Repost]
Hi Sluggers: I subscribed with a new email address. So I am reposting my query on this. Setup: Url comes to site like this http://www.yourdomain.com/index.html?hop=some_data Q1. If I click on a link to go to another HTML page say name.html, I lose the hop=some_data part. How do I make the hop=some_data go with the name.html with the a tag from an HTML document ? Is this possible or a script can do this only ? Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say orderpage.pl, I want the script to capture the hop=some_data. I got the script to print the whole %ENV, and I see no HTTP_REFERER. I thought HTTP_REFERER would show the url that called orderpage.pl with the hop=some_data . But if I cannot see HTTP_REFERER, then how do I get the script to capture the hop=some_data ? Thank You. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found [Repost]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:19:01AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say orderpage.pl, I want the script to capture the hop=some_data. I got the script to print the whole %ENV, and I see no HTTP_REFERER. I thought HTTP_REFERER would show the That's because it's not the referrer. The referrer is the page containing the link that was used to get to your page. The stuff after the '?' is QUERY_STRING. To pick a random example, http://www.slug.org.au/index.html contains this link: a href=about.htmlSydney Linux Users Group (SLUG)/a If I follow the link to load about.html, HTTP_REFERER will be http://www.slug.org.au/index.html; and QUERY_STRING will be empty. To pick another random example, slug's events page contains this link: a href=detail.html?id=91 If I follow that link, HTTP_REFERER will be http://www.slug.org.au/events/; and QUERY_STRING will be id=91. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found [Repost]
Q1. If I click on a link to go to another HTML page say name.html, I lose the hop=some_data part. How do I make the hop=some_data go with the name.html with the a tag from an HTML document ? Is this possible or a script can do this only ? This is not how a relative link works. Everything after the last '/' is lost. However with enough creativity anything can be made possible in Javascript. Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say orderpage.pl, I want the script to capture the hop=some_data. I got the script to print the whole %ENV, and I see no HTTP_REFERER. I thought HTTP_REFERER would show the url that called orderpage.pl with the hop=some_data . But if I cannot see HTTP_REFERER, then how do I get the script to capture the hop=some_data ? You should be seeing the previouse URL in the environment variable HTTP_REFERER. Contrary to what someone else said it will contain the query data. It might not exists because the browser is not sending it. Look at the HTTP traffic with a sniffer to verify the browser is sending it. Some more information about what web server you're using will help fix the problem too. -- Cult - A sociotype of an auto-toxic meme-complex, composed of membots and/or memeoids. Memetic Lexicon : http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/MEMLEX.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Subscriptions....
Call me a synic, but does anyone else think it strange that a few people took exception to spam getting on this list (like THAT was never going to happen!) and now we've had 3 subscription activation messages in the last two days?? Seems as if someone is out to sabotage the list. I have my suspicions but I'll just keep that under my hat for the time being. My only comment is to anyone who IS actually trying to make a point. All they are proving is that my spam filter works *REALLY* well for this list and they have the maturity of a three year old (no offense to any 3yr olds on the list...you will grow up one day. The idiot in this case obviously hasn't). If you don't like spam, take some responsibility and put in place your own filters! If you can't be bothered doing that (taking responsibility), take your modem and have a ritual burning - you don't belong on the internet. Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found [Repost]
Q1. If I click on a link to go to another HTML page say name.html, I lose
the hop=some_data part. How do I make the hop=some_data go with the
name.html with the a tag from an HTML document ? Is this possible or a
script can do this only ?
there are a couple ways -
one way is to add the hop=some_data to the href itself, IF it is a static
string... ie: a href=http://www.domain.com/name.html?hop=some_data;
otherwise, you can implement a simple CGI/Perl script to generate the
index page from a template...
Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say orderpage.pl, I want the
script to capture the hop=some_data. I got the script to print the whole
%ENV, and I see no HTTP_REFERER. I thought HTTP_REFERER would show the
url that called orderpage.pl with the hop=some_data . But if I cannot
see HTTP_REFERER, then how do I get the script to capture the
hop=some_data ?
The ENV variable you are looking for is definitely the QUERY_STRING...
or use STDIN to retrieve POST data...
If you are using perl (looks like you are using a hash there - %ENV) then
you can
either use the CGI module to retrieve the query strings, in which case you
don't
have to worry about that at all, or you can do something like this -
my %formData;
read STDIN, $_, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'}; #Read in STDIN to default
variable...
%formData = split/|=/; #Place separate keys/values into
'formData' hash, split by '' and '='
if (!%formData) #- If we didn't get anything
from POST method,
{
$_ = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'};# try retrieving it from
QUERY_STRING (GET method)
%formData = split/|=/; # and split like before.
}
Then to access the data, you would go:
my $hop = $formData{'hop'};
This is a quick hack - CGI module is much better more efficient
eg. what happens when you get a number of values from select multiple in
this code?
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Re: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
James Gray wrote: Call me a synic, but does anyone else think it strange that a few people took exception to spam getting on this list (like THAT was never going to happen!) and now we've had 3 subscription activation messages in the last two days?? Seems as if someone is out to sabotage the list just what I was thinking If you don't like spam, take some responsibility and put in place your own filters! I agree If you can't be bothered doing that (taking responsibility), take your modem and have a ritual burning - you don't belong on the internet. don't know that I would go that far - the spammers are the ones that don't belong. I mean we wouldn't suggest that someone who detests receiving regular junk mail (the paper variety) should rip out there mail box. Although I guess we might if the whinging got too much ;-) Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found [Repost]
Q1. If I click on a link to go to another HTML page say name.html, I
lose the hop=some_data part. How do I make the hop=some_data go
with the name.html with the a tag from an HTML document ? Is this
possible or a script can do this only ?
there are a couple ways -
one way is to add the hop=some_data to the href itself, IF it is a
static string... ie: a
href=http://www.domain.com/name.html?hop=some_data; otherwise, you can
implement a simple CGI/Perl script to generate the index page from a
template...
Well the hop=some_data is dynamic. Looks like a script is required to do
this then, and pass it dynamically to all a tag on the page being viewed
so that when a new page is clicked on, the hop=some_data is preserved.
Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say orderpage.pl, I want the
script to capture the hop=some_data. I got the script to print the
whole %ENV, and I see no HTTP_REFERER. I thought HTTP_REFERER would
show the url that called orderpage.pl with the hop=some_data . But
if I cannot see HTTP_REFERER, then how do I get the script to capture
the
hop=some_data ?
The ENV variable you are looking for is definitely the QUERY_STRING...
or use STDIN to retrieve POST data...
Well from the page
http://www.yourdomain.com/index.html?hop=some_data
I clicked on a link for the order page which has this
a
href=http://www.yourdomain.com/cgi-bin/orderpage.pl?value=some_data_the_order_script_uses;
This shows QUERY_STRING as
value=some_data_the_order_script_uses
It looks like I need to somehow parse the hop=some_data dynamically to
the orderpage.pl scripts so that when clicked it has this
href=http://www.yourdomain.com/cgi-bin/orderpage.pl?value=some_data_the_order_script_useshop=some_data;
Any other way I can do this ?
If you are using perl (looks like you are using a hash there - %ENV)
then you can
either use the CGI module to retrieve the query strings, in which case
you don't
have to worry about that at all, or you can do something like this -
my %formData;
read STDIN, $_, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'}; #Read in STDIN to default
variable...
%formData = split/|=/; #Place separate keys/values
into 'formData' hash, split by '' and '='
if (!%formData) #- If we didn't get
anything from POST method,
{
$_ = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'};# try retrieving it from
QUERY_STRING (GET method)
%formData = split/|=/; # and split like before.
}
Then to access the data, you would go:
my $hop = $formData{'hop'};
This is a quick hack - CGI module is much better more efficient
eg. what happens when you get a number of values from select multiple
in
this code?
Thanks for this piece of code. I already have a read_input() sub doing
something similar.
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[SLUG] bigpond cable.
Hi Sluggers, Got a problem with Bpalogin. I've tried it on, RH8.0, 9.0 + Mandrake 9 + 9.1 and it doesn't work. It seems to work ok on Mandrake 8.0 though and I think RH 7.3. I'm not sure what the changes are that screwed with its functionallity but it certainly isn't working properly in the newer versions of both. I have been to the bpalogin sourceforge site and a few people seem to have to same problem but there seem to be only half ar$ed answers there and they really don't help much. I do get a DHCP assigned IP from bigpond and I ping the dce-server, I can also ftp to the update-server (I think that's what it's called), or wherever you download the utilities from. But Bpalogin still doesn't work. I've got it working by going into windows and logging in, writing down the IP I was assigned, rebooting into Linux and manually assigning that IP to the eth device, and finally using Bids2login. This works ok in RH 9.0, but it is a PAIN in the ar$e, and I don't want to see those bloody multicoloured, wavey four squares any more than I have to. Also, bids2login doesn't seem to work in Mandrake 9.1 for some reason. It comes up with a "reslov" error or something like that... Anyone had any luck fixing this? Would appreciate the help, so I can log back on to that rip-off of an ISP in Linux again! Thanks, Mal -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:41, Malik Jayawardena wrote: Hi Sluggers, Got a problem with Bpalogin. I've tried it on, RH8.0, 9.0 + Mandrake 9 + 9.1 and it doesn't work. It seems to work ok on Mandrake 8.0 though and I think RH 7.3. I'm not sure what the changes are that screwed with its functionallity but it certainly isn't working properly in the newer versions of both. I have been to the bpalogin sourceforge site and a few people seem to have to same problem but there seem to be only half ar$ed answers there and they really don't help much. Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Training Spamassassin's Bayesian classifier
Hi, I've set up spamassassin on my mail hub, and it mostly works. I'm seeing lots of Sven worm that it misses, as well as a whole heap it catches (now I've upped the score for MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE to 5.1) The false negatives mostly have MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE and BAYES_01 set, which adds to a score of -0.2. I've been saving these to a file, and running sa-learn on them, along with learning as ham the rest of the email I get, but it seems to be learning really slowly. Is there any good way to seed things up? I'm seeing 40 to 50 SVEN worm emails an hour; around 10 get through to my INBOX, the rest are classified correctly. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've disabled the firewall in both Mandrake and Red Hat, but to no avail. I'll try the suggestions in that link, but I'm pretty sure I've been through most of the stuff on the sourceforge site. Does anyone know what happens during login? I.e. what bpalogin/bids2login actually does?? Tony Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Hard Drive Crash - OT?
Hi all, Have an 80gb Seagate HDD formated NTFS (WinXP) that I can no longer access. Seagates SeaTools says that the extended partition(s) are corrupted. Funny thing is that I formatted it as only one 80gb NTFS Primary partition. Seagate DiscWizard shows an 80.1 gb partition and 3 small FAT16 partitions which I assume XP uses for Recycle Bin etc. Is there anyway to copy the contents of the 80gb partition to another identical hard drive under Linux (maybe Knoppix)? I don't care whether the new drive is formatted for Windows or for Ext3 as long as I can recover the files. Thanks in advance. Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Training Spamassassin's Bayesian classifier
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:46:08PM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: Is there any good way to seed things up? I'm seeing 40 to 50 SVEN worm emails an hour; around 10 get through to my INBOX, the rest are classified correctly. score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 100 :-) Another thing to look for is the subject header - SUBJECT is nearly always all caps. Seriously though, I don't think SpamAssassin is the right tool to stop viruses. Try amavisd-new + clamav on your mail hub. I did that a couple of weeks ago and it's blocked every one of them. I've been comparatively lucky though - I've only received about 35 copies. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Training Spamassassin's Bayesian classifier
John == John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:46:08PM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: Is there any good way to seed things up? I'm seeing 40 to 50 SVEN worm emails an hour; around 10 get through to my INBOX, the rest are classified correctly. John score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 100 Just occasionally I get sent a real one. No I found the problem: run sa-learn as user mail, not as root. Otherwise the wrong database gets updated. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Cups printing on Debian Woody
Hi All,
I have Debian Woody stable running, and have been trying to get a HP 7130
to print via both Cups and LPRng to no success.
They both print the same thing, whether its a postscript file, or plain
text.
It is printing
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
[{
%%BeginFeature..
etc.
I believe this to be ps source? why would this not be converted before
printing.
I have cups installed on a redhat 7.3 box, and it works, selecting the
same settings (HP make, HP OfficeJet 710 Model).
I have gs, all cups system and driver packages etc.
Could anyone have any clue why this would be happening?
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: [SLUG] Training Spamassassin's Bayesian classifier
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:46, Peter Chubb wrote: The false negatives mostly have MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE and BAYES_01 set, which adds to a score of -0.2. I've been saving these to a file, and running sa-learn on them, along with learning as ham the rest of the email I get, but it seems to be learning really slowly. Is there any good way to seed things up? I'm seeing 40 to 50 SVEN worm emails an hour; around 10 get through to my INBOX, the rest are classified correctly. I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but from my personal experiences 2 things come to mind. By default the bayes filter doesn't kick in until 200 odd emails have been classified or something along those lines. The other thing is that AFAIK it's preferable to have even amounts of spam and ham when using sa-learn. I'm sure others have more helpful insights. HTH Dan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hard Drive Crash - OT?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:29:40PM +1000, Bill wrote: Have an 80gb Seagate HDD formated NTFS (WinXP) that I can no longer access. Seagates SeaTools says that the extended partition(s) are corrupted. Funny thing is that I formatted it as only one 80gb NTFS Primary partition. Seagate DiscWizard shows an 80.1 gb partition and 3 small FAT16 partitions which I assume XP uses for Recycle Bin etc. Is there anyway to copy the contents of the 80gb partition to another identical hard drive under Linux (maybe Knoppix)? Depending on how the disk was corrupted, you might be able to recreate the correct partition table with a bit of dd and a hex editor. If the disk is physically fscked in one way or another (doesn't sound like it, if seatools is reading it OK) then you can dd everything good off the disk onto another identical one, and then proceed to hexedit your way to happiness. Yes, this is OT for the main SLUG list, really, so if you want to contact me off-list, I can give you a few pointers (I went through this same nightmare very recently) on getting things sorted out, or even do the job for you if you want. Reasonable rates. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
The person/organization running the list has the duty to ensure that spam doesn't get through... QED -= -Original Message- -= From: Brad Kowalczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -= Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 12:39 PM -= To: James Gray -= Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -= Subject: Re: [SLUG] Subscriptions -= -= -= -= James Gray wrote: -= -= Call me a synic, but does anyone else think it strange that a few -= people took exception to spam getting on this list (like THAT was -= never going to happen!) and now we've had 3 subscription -= activation -= messages in the last two days?? -= -= Seems as if someone is out to sabotage the list -= -= just what I was thinking -= -= If you don't like spam, take some responsibility and put -= in place your -= own filters! -= -= I agree -= -= If you can't be bothered doing that (taking -= responsibility), take your -= modem and have a ritual burning - you don't belong on the -= internet. -= -= don't know that I would go that far - the spammers are the -= ones that -= don't belong. I mean we wouldn't suggest that someone who detests -= receiving regular junk mail (the paper variety) should rip -= out there -= mail box. Although I guess we might if the whinging got too much ;-) -= -= Brad -= -= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
Nope. Will give that a go thanks.. Declan Ingram wrote: have you tried running a tcpdump -X, it will show you in ASCII exactly what is transversing the network. (man tcpdump and fiddle some args so that you get the best filter) On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 04:01, Malik Jayawardena wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've disabled the firewall in both Mandrake and Red Hat, but to no avail. I'll try the suggestions in that link, but I'm pretty sure I've been through most of the stuff on the sourceforge site. Does anyone know what happens during login? I.e. what bpalogin/bids2login actually does?? Tony Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 14:42, Jon Biddell wrote: The person/organization running the list has the duty to ensure that spam doesn't get through... QED Oh, give it up. Thats the lynchpin of your entire tirade, and its not one you have made any solid case for. Begone troll. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
Why don't you take your head out of your ass and accept that some people don't hold YOUR views on things, you whiney git ! -= -Original Message- -= From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -= Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 3:32 PM -= To: Jon Biddell -= Cc: 'Brad Kowalczyk'; 'James Gray'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -= Subject: RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions -= -= -= On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 14:42, Jon Biddell wrote: -= The person/organization running the list has the duty to -= ensure that -= spam doesn't get through... QED -= -= Oh, give it up. Thats the lynchpin of your entire tirade, -= and its not one you have made any solid case for. -= -= Begone troll. -= -= Rob -= -- -= GPG key available at: -= -= http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt. -= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
Okay can a paid member bring a motion to remove Jon from the list, The person/organization running the list has the duty to ensure that trolls/pests/dumbasses/people who know nothing about running a mailing list but think they do are removed and beaten with a large hammer... QED. You cannot stop SPAM 100%, if you have a way show us your magic, you'll become very rich and we'll bow down before your mastery, until then I'm requesting your removal from the list as you obviously don't want to be here... you have the logical reasoning of a four year old, and my response to your response is I know you are but what am I? as only seems befitting.. Dave. On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 14:42, Jon Biddell wrote: The person/organization running the list has the duty to ensure that spam doesn't get through... QED Oh, give it up. Thats the lynchpin of your entire tirade, and its not one you have made any solid case for. Begone troll. Rob -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 15:54, Jon Biddell wrote: Why don't you take your head out of your ass and accept that some people don't hold YOUR views on things, you whiney git ! Touche. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
