Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org 1.1
It looks great I'm dling now too- 76.5Mb for those who haven't tries yet. I'm particularly interested in the SWF translation and PDF export features. Also they have been talking about 'crystal reports' type add ons in the datasources so I'm curious about that too. Stuart On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 10:59, Simon Males wrote: No one has broken the ice here yet but OpenOffice.org 1.1 is out (latest release previously was 1.0.3). One of most funky things is putting the export to PDF on the toolbar (no fiddling with printers, and not can PDF easy on windows if need be). Twas officially announced in my inbox at 2am today, but its been syncing since the weekend. Also beware the new sun logo'd splash screen(*). Its also the same a RC5. Kinda newbie feature list, with more/better links towards end: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/ (*) http://framework.openoffice.org/unbranded-source/browse/~checkout~/framework/offmgr/res/Attic/openintro_sun.bmp?rev=1.1.2.1content-type=image/bmp What next? Apart from 1.1.x's, OOo next major release is 2.0 (hopefully where Ximian's art comes in). -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OO 1.1
Oh yes I forgot - it claims docbook filters??? RIS! Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] (OT) IP number geographic locations
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 10:46, David wrote: Thanks for suggestions. I guess I should not have been so cryptic in my question. Whois is not really an option because I'm trying to analyse a http log with thousands of entries. It's useful to know if the hit is local or foreign. It's not hard to find out where a given ip number comes from, but I was looking for a simple generic test - eg: all .au numbers are in the range 203.1.0.0 It's not possible to tell where a host is coming from based upon its IP address and the entry in whois. For example, IBM have a single allocation, they use that for their entire global network. Similarly for other multinationals. The records are also not maintained particularly well -- you'll find most users of the Internet 7 years are all registered in the US. But why look at the IP address? TCP maintains an estimate of the round-trip time for a connection. Australia pretty much only connects to other countries through the west coast of the USA, a latency of 90ms. So any TCP connection with a RTT ~ 200ms is pretty certain to be foreign. The Web100 project has kernel hacks to let you get this data from the kernel and utilities to let you log all TCP connections. Alternatively, you could use you ISP's BGP routing table. Most ISPs mark routes with a community stating what PoP learned the route. So if you pull in a feed you can look up the IP address and see if it was learned by one of their overseas PoPs. Both of these methods are non-trivial to implement. Which is usually about the stage that most people decide that they don't need geographic web stats. We use something like the second tactic to prevent overseas hosts from using mirror.aarnet.edu.au (since there's another copy of the software 14,000Km closer). It's not perfect as some Australian ISPs like to route data from their Australian customers through the USA. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Network Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] YahooIM Protocol
I use an app called gyach http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/gyach/ to access the chat rooms on Yahoo it stopped working but now it has been fixed and working as normal..part the the yahoo changeover seems to be a swap from md5 to sha1 for the login security. Gavin Carr wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:58:55PM +1000, James Gray wrote: Quick question. Has Yahoo changed their IM protocol? Yep. There was a slashdot thread discussing it a week ago: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/17/2358240mode=threadtid=185tid=187 I've worked around it by downloading the Yahoo Linux (http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html) client and it's working (complete with banner ads and other nastyness!). However, I preferred my single jabber client (Psi) being able to access all my IM accounts. Yes I know about EveryBuddy and other all-in-one clients, but the other reason I'm running a jabber server is simply because it's open (as in the Jabber protocol is an open source/standard). Well, both Everybuddy (ayttm) and Gaim stopped working too. Apparently Gaim 0.69 works - I'm just compiling it up now. Cheers, Gavin -- Regards Richard Neal --- GPLG GPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGP GPLMICROSOFT GPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPL GPLGPL --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] linux mandrake
hi, could anybody help me please with the following problem. I have installed the program 5 times over the last 8 hours, and I can't get past the login stage, each time. my user name is accepted, my password is accepted, but then I get the following line [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ the cursor is flashing, but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login I have read my little red book, but can't find what I am supposed to enter after the localhost line I have entered my root password, but that also does not help me I thought it was about time that I found another o/s but so far I am getting nowhere fast.. thanks Harry -- SLUG Committee -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] linux mandrake
(bounced from committee@ to slug@) hi, could anybody help me please with the following problem. I have installed the program 5 times over the last 8 hours, and I can't get past the login stage, each time. my user name is accepted, my password is accepted, but then I get the following line [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ the cursor is flashing, but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login I have read my little red book, but can't find what I am supposed to enter after the localhost line I have entered my root password, but that also does not help me I thought it was about time that I found another o/s but so far I am getting nowhere fast.. thanks Harry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux mandrake
type: startx There an option when installing ' start KDE/GUI upon boot up ' I think if you also tick the option 'log into user x automatically upon boot up' might also take care of that for you. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux mandrake
Hi Harry, welcome to Slug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ This means you logged on. but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login This should not happen unless you press CTRL-D or type in exit and press enter. It's sounding like you're starting up rescue mode or something? It's a bit difficult to assist you with this from here. You will need to tell us a bit more about what you selected to install and what messages it gave you along the way. Perhaps you could come along to the upcoming installfest where we can all get a squiz at your problem and also install Linux for you! Alternatively the SLUG meets last Friday of the month at the University of Technology. Come along and discuss there if you wish. Stu On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 21:52, Haitch wrote: (bounced from committee@ to slug@) hi, could anybody help me please with the following problem. I have installed the program 5 times over the last 8 hours, and I can't get past the login stage, each time. my user name is accepted, my password is accepted, but then I get the following line [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ the cursor is flashing, but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login I have read my little red book, but can't find what I am supposed to enter after the localhost line I have entered my root password, but that also does not help me I thought it was about time that I found another o/s but so far I am getting nowhere fast.. thanks Harry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] (OT) IP number geographic locations
On 2 Oct 2003, Glen Turner wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 10:46, David wrote: It's not hard to find out where a given ip number comes from, but I was looking for a simple generic test - eg: all .au numbers are in the range 203.1.0.0 It's not possible to tell where a host is coming from based upon its IP address and the entry in whois. For example, IBM have a single allocation, they use that for their entire global network. Similarly for other multinationals. The records are also not maintained particularly well -- you'll find most users of the Internet 7 years are all registered in the US. Depends if they provide internal allocations to countries or not. It suffices to say that nothing is 100% with the internet. Like you I would have thought BGP probably the best gamble but what's stopping people using another country's satelites dialup connections. Plus basically you're trusting anonymous third parties to provide information about routing even with BGP. It's just they have a vested interest in getting it at least mostly correct. But why look at the IP address? TCP maintains an estimate of the round-trip time for a connection. Australia pretty much only connects to other countries through the west coast of the USA, a latency of 90ms. So any TCP connection with a RTT ~ 200ms is pretty certain to be foreign. The Web100 project has kernel hacks to let you get this data from the kernel and utilities to let you log all TCP connections. cough you gotta be kidding right? by that logic our office must be on the moon at the moment. We're converting our ADSL over and for the moment are stuck on a modem that's rather saturated. Even going a few hops back up the route could be problematic, although I suppose going from the other end would be sufficient. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasonal nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux mandrake
Hi, could anybody help me please with the following problem. We will try. :) I have installed the program 5 times over the last 8 hours, and I can't get past the login stage, each time. What program are you installing? Do you mean the OS Mandrake Linux? my user name is accepted, my password is accepted, but then I get the following line [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ the cursor is flashing, but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login At the install process did when creating a the user id harry did you change the shell from /bin/sh to something like /bin/false? I have read my little red book, but can't find what I am supposed to enter after the localhost line I have entered my root password, but that also does not help me What do you mean it doesn't help? Does do the same as your user id harry? I thought it was about time that I found another o/s but so far I am getting nowhere fast.. So you are moving from windows :) -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
I'm trying to get some accounting info out of our PIX [1] (hopefully using SNMP). I'm currently using cricket [2] to do tracking on most of the hosts on our network, but it's (as far as I can tell) only useful for doing snapshot info. Not sure if the PIX does NetFlow, but if it does, you might look at that as an alternative if you can't find your SNMP solution: http://www.caida.org/tools/measurement/cflowd/ HTH. -- |Lanrex Consulting Services Pty Ltd Desmond Wass |http://www.lanrex.com.au 0411 056 027 |Phone: 1300 88 33 86 |Fax: +61 2 9416 9633 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Slow DSL connection
Hi - This is just a quick question - in case anyone has run into something similar... One of our clients (on a DSL connection) is having some issues. His connection is running at almost dialup speed and he is on a 256k ADSL connection. He is the only client experiencing this problem, and he says it has built up over about 1-2 weeks. I had a look at his machines, and they all seemed to be fine. We tried resetting the modem computers, tried a different network port in the hub but nothing seems to make any difference. Initially, the connection worked fine and he has been up running for a few months with no problems until now. Is it possible that the modem itself is wearing down, possibly due to a manufacturing fault? Is something wrong with the computers?? They are running Windows 2000 Windows NT... Modem is Netcom NB1300 ethernet. I don't expect too much from this question, as it really isn't directly related to Linux or anything, but if anyone has seen/heard of this before, a point in the right direction will be very helpful, and appreciated as always Cheers, Jared P. attachment: winmail.dat-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:48, Tony Green wrote: Morning all, I'm trying to get some accounting info out of our PIX [1] (hopefully using SNMP). I'm currently using cricket [2] to do tracking on most of the hosts on our network, but it's (as far as I can tell) only useful for doing snapshot info. I've got it reporting that at a certain time, the PIX's throughput on the external interface was XX k/sec, but that's not what I need to track our bandwidth charges. I've asked around on #slug and most people are using ipacct on a linux based firewall, so I'm outta luck there. Google didn't really throw up any interesting hits for me. Anyone know of a linux based package which will allow me to do this? Try MRTG - http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Then look here for SNMP with the PIX - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pixsnmp.html I hope that helps. Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got it reporting that at a certain time, the PIX's throughput on the external interface was XX k/sec, but that's not what I need to track our bandwidth charges. If I understand your problem, copy-to will help. You can copy the raw data collected from PIX to somewhere else, eg to a file, or an RDBMS. Then you can processes it and workout totals, etc. The only snag is you'll have to understand a bit of snmp to process the data. Some other alternatives are cacti, never used it, don't know if it solves your problem, but I've heard positive things about it. And rtg (not mrtg). rtg is written in c and doesn't use rrd at all, it uses mysql. I think it should do exactly what you want out of the box, but I've never used it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:36, John McQuillen wrote: Try MRTG - http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Thanks for that one, but cricket is 'mrtg on steroids'. Apparently neither can do what I'm after. Though it sounds like netflow can. I'm going to be replacing the 515 with a linux based fw at some point, the cost of the netflow will help justify it too :-) Thanks for everyone suggestions (both on and off list). TG -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection
Title: RE: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection He's using our DSL :D lol We are a virtualISP using Comindico, and he is on a flat rate / unlimited plan so no probs there, and no-one else (including myself) has experienced slow-downs The modem has a NAT setup so as for it being hacked, it is unlikely (still possible, but unlikely), however the likelihood of just his connection slowiing so dramatically is also ver unlikely... If he downloads a big file, and does NOTHING else at the same time, he can get (eventually) about a 20kbps download speed, but if he downloads, or even uploads oddly enough, at the same time, it all drops to about 4kbps weird. -Original Message-From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2003 5:38 PMTo: 'Jared Pritchard'Subject: RE: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection Hi Jared, Whose DSL service is he using? Some DSLs have a traffic cap where if you download more than X Gb's in a month they reduce your speed to a dialup... Other DSLs just have problems when the service provider gets overloaded or has one of their links go down etc. Its unlikely to be anything to do with the modem. Having Windows based PCs directly connected to the internet is asking for trouble... its very possible his machines have been hacked and are scanning the internet or doing other bad things on behalf of the hacker... if this is so, it would slow everything down a lot... Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Jared Pritchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 4 October 2003 3:09 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection Hi - This is just a quick question - in case anyone has run into something similar... One of our clients (on a DSL connection) is having some issues. His connection is running at almost dialup speed and he is on a 256k ADSL connection. He is the only client experiencing this problem, and he says it has built up over about 1-2 weeks. I had a look at his machines, and they all seemed to be fine. We tried resetting the modem computers, tried a different network port in the hub but nothing seems to make any difference. Initially, the connection worked fine and he has been up running for a few months with no problems until now. Is it possible that the modem itself is wearing down, possibly due to a manufacturing fault? Is something wrong with the computers?? They are running Windows 2000 Windows NT... Modem is Netcom NB1300 ethernet. I don't expect too much from this question, as it really isn't directly related to Linux or anything, but if anyone has seen/heard of this before, a point in the right direction will be very helpful, and appreciated as always Cheers, Jared P. File: ATT160066.txt Netway Networks Pty Limited t 02 - 8920 8877 f 02 - 8920 8866 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.netwaynetworks.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection
It is said that Jared Pritchard wrote: One of our clients (on a DSL connection) is having some issues. His connection is running at almost dialup speed and he is on a 256k ADSL connection. He is the only client experiencing this problem, and he says it has built up over about 1-2 weeks. Which ISP? Some *dsl ISPs shape users to slower speeds (some, like iiNet and Netspace do it once you exceed your quota, while others like Internode shape you more the more you download). - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:47, Tony Green wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:36, John McQuillen wrote: Try MRTG - http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Thanks for that one, but cricket is 'mrtg on steroids'. Apparently neither can do what I'm after. Though it sounds like netflow can. I'm going to be replacing the 515 with a linux based fw at some point, the cost of the netflow will help justify it too :-) Thanks for everyone suggestions (both on and off list). TG I may be over-simplifying your problem, but I thought that what you were trying to do was simply account for the total bytes in and out of your PIX external interface per day/week/month whatever... If so, wouldn't an snmp get of the counters for interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifInOctets.x interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifOutOctets.x suffice? (after setting the counters to zero at the beginning of each accounting cycle.) This would be easy to script. I am very much a novice when it comes to snmp, so please feel free to hit me with a clue stick if there is much more to it than I am suggesting :) Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:24, John McQuillen wrote: I am very much a novice when it comes to snmp, so please feel free to hit me with a clue stick if there is much more to it than I am suggesting :) Actually, I can't see any reason why that won't work.. I'll start on some perl snmp stuff and see how it goes :-) Thanks TG -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
Tony Green wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:24, John McQuillen wrote:
I am very much a novice when it comes to snmp, so please feel free to
hit me with a clue stick if there is much more to it than I am
suggesting :)
Actually, I can't see any reason why that won't work..
I'll start on some perl snmp stuff and see how it goes :-)
Just checking. You are going to write something in perl to capture the
snmp packets, thove them into a file and a certain times just count up
packets for various accts?
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Re: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection
First thing, take one of your computers known to work at full speed on dsl...so if you have a laptop in your office which cruises nicely on broadband then take that and plug it into the clients router/modem and see what happens. If the problem persists, check the router/modem tech support page. Might be a common problem with the router. Might be worth flashing the firmware to the latest version available. does he have a static ip address? is it possible someone is targeting his machine on the net. check what the router/modem lights are doing when the speed is slow, also might be worth running something like tcpdump, or windump i think its called for windows. Hope that helps a bit. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 03:09, Jared Pritchard wrote: Hi - This is just a quick question - in case anyone has run into something similar... One of our clients (on a DSL connection) is having some issues. His connection is running at almost dialup speed and he is on a 256k ADSL connection. He is the only client experiencing this problem, and he says it has built up over about 1-2 weeks. I had a look at his machines, and they all seemed to be fine. We tried resetting the modem computers, tried a different network port in the hub but nothing seems to make any difference. Initially, the connection worked fine and he has been up running for a few months with no problems until now. Is it possible that the modem itself is wearing down, possibly due to a manufacturing fault? Is something wrong with the computers?? They are running Windows 2000 Windows NT... Modem is Netcom NB1300 ethernet. I don't expect too much from this question, as it really isn't directly related to Linux or anything, but if anyone has seen/heard of this before, a point in the right direction will be very helpful, and appreciated as always Cheers, Jared P. __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:53, Terry Collins wrote: Just checking. You are going to write something in perl to capture the snmp packets, thove them into a file and a certain times just count up packets for various accts? Thats the current plan. I may use rrdtool or similar in the long run -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Slow DSL connection
It is said that Jared Pritchard wrote: If he downloads a big file, and does NOTHING else at the same time, he can get (eventually) about a 20kbps download speed, but if he downloads, or even uploads oddly enough, at the same time, it all drops to about 4kbps weird. Does it vary during different times? He may be sharing a connection with some heavy users. (Incase you don't know, with comindico connections may be 50 users to 1 512/256/whatever connection) - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:53, Terry Collins wrote: Tony Green wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:24, John McQuillen wrote: I am very much a novice when it comes to snmp, so please feel free to hit me with a clue stick if there is much more to it than I am suggesting :) Actually, I can't see any reason why that won't work.. I'll start on some perl snmp stuff and see how it goes :-) Just checking. You are going to write something in perl to capture the snmp packets, thove them into a file and a certain times just count up packets for various accts? My understanding of how this works is that the PIX actually keeps track of the traffic in and out of each interface (as well as a bunch of other stuff). All that we need to do with snmp is read the current value of the counter. So, once a day/week/month/whatever, we snmp set the counters on the OIDs interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifInOctets.x (where x is the interface ID of the external interface) and interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifOutOctets.x to zero, and at the end of the day/week/month/whatever, we read the value of the counter that the PIX has been incrementing as it passes traffic. If my understanding is correct, the PIX is doing most of the work here, we just have to read the correct counters and analyse the data as required. Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:59:18AM +1000, Tony Green wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:53, Terry Collins wrote: Just checking. You are going to write something in perl to capture the snmp packets, thove them into a file and a certain times just count up packets for various accts? Thats the current plan. I may use rrdtool or similar in the long run Eh? There's something I'm missing. cricket is rrdtool (frontend actually) so it should just do what you want to do. I'm in the midst of getting nagios/rrdtool to play together nicely. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh? There's something I'm missing. cricket is rrdtool (frontend actually) so it should just do what you want to Maybe, but it doesn't seem to want to. Google threw up a lot of people trying and very few people getting it working. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:53, Terry Collins wrote: Just checking. You are going to write something in perl to capture the snmp packets, thove them into a file and a certain times just count up packets for various accts? Thats the current plan. I may use rrdtool or similar in the long run Then I may as well introduce you to Mr Spike now, rather than letting you bump in to him at a later stage. Use 64 bit counters where possible (ifHCInOctets). Collecting ifOperStatus, ifLastChange and sysUptime helps you distinguish between certain events, ie counters resetting due to a reboot. Program the speed of the interface in to your app so you can detect obviously wrong data. Take in to account network and cpu load, plus how frequent counters could wrap when deciding how often to poll. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:29, John McQuillen wrote: SNIP If my understanding is correct, the PIX is doing most of the work here, we just have to read the correct counters and analyse the data as required. Yep, I think you're right. We're now just debating the right way to collect/collate the data. Since I use cricket for everything else, it would be nice to get it to do it too. I've come up with some stuff to do it, I just have to cron the reset of the counter on the 1st of each month now -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:47:13PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use 64 bit counters where possible (ifHCInOctets). Collecting ifOperStatus, ifLastChange and sysUptime helps you distinguish between certain events, ie counters resetting due to a reboot. Program the speed of the interface in to your app so you can detect obviously wrong data. Take in to account network and cpu load, plus how frequent counters could wrap when deciding how often to poll. The rrdtool COUNTER type handles wrapping. Dunno about unexpected outages. FWIW, rrdtool is less than mrtg in the sense that it doesn't do the snmp stuff, but mrtg does. For rrdtool, you have to do they snmp query by other means (snmpget/walk). But you probably know this. For me, rrdtool/cricket/ and the other stuff in the rrdworld links page on rrdtool.org promise easy monitoring and beautiful graphs in minutes, but the reality is lot of staring hard at manuals and fiddling with scripts. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP accounting from a PIX (or similar) using SNMP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:47:13PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use 64 bit counters where possible (ifHCInOctets). Collecting ifOperStatus, ifLastChange and sysUptime helps you distinguish between certain events, ie counters resetting due to a reboot. Program the speed of the interface in to your app so you can detect obviously wrong data. Take in to account network and cpu load, plus how frequent counters could wrap when deciding how often to poll. The rrdtool COUNTER type handles wrapping. Dunno about unexpected outages. I just checked the docs, they recommend using DERIVE, not COUNTER. But for people using COUNTER, there is an snmp-uptime setting, and if the uptime is less than the poll interval, it assumes a reboot. But uptime counters wrap occasionally, so... rrd or cricket seems to handle most spikes, but not all, hence spikekill or killspike, whatever it's called. And if such a widely used program like rrd occasionally gets it wrong, it can't be an easy thing to get right. But I was mainly talking about rolling your own NMS without rrd. For me, rrdtool/cricket/ and the other stuff in the rrdworld links page on rrdtool.org promise easy monitoring and beautiful graphs in minutes, but the reality is lot of staring hard at manuals and fiddling with scripts. I find cricket and the like are excellent for fault finding, and genRtrConfig makes life easy, but cricket doesn't do billing or overview type reports. rtg is suitable for both, but its a shame it doesn't use a standard database interface. At the moment I'm using cricket with copy-to, but you lose all the benefits of rrd with copy-to, you basically have to reinvent it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Adding Netowrking To Debian Woody
Brain fusion here and can not find any doco to work out what to do next.
I have a Debian Woody base installation.
How do I add the networking?
Just can not find a HOWTO on the base install.
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Re: [SLUG] Adding Netowrking To Debian Woody
man interfaces :)
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:12:43 +1000
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brain fusion here and can not find any doco to work out what to do next.
I have a Debian Woody base installation.
How do I add the networking?
Just can not find a HOWTO on the base install.
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Re: [SLUG] Adding Netowrking To Debian Woody
It is said that Terry Collins wrote: I have a Debian Woody base installation. How do I add the networking? pppconfig for dialup (with pon/poff to disconnect/connect) /etc/networking/interfaces to configure interfaces. - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] linux.conf.au: Regional Delegate Program
Hi everyone, Sun Microsystems and linux.conf.au are doing it again: the Regional Delegates Program, sending delegates from all over Australia to Adelaide for l.c.a in January 2004 for free! SLUG is selecting two people from NSW to be forwarded to the LCA organisers, who will choose the delegates. If you contribute to Free Software and can't afford to get to l.c.ai but want to go, then you should mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and nominate yourself for the RDP. Nominations must be received by 17th October 2003. This is *not* restricted to SLUG members, and it is *not* restricted to people involved in SLUG, it is open to any resident of NSW. We've put up a page at http://www.slug.org.au/rdp.html with more details. Please feel free to forward this message to any person or group you think would like to hear about it. Residents of other states should check the main LCA page -- http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ -- to find out who to contact in their own state. -Mary pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
