Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins wrote:
I can recommend a book called Australian Accounting if you want to
understand accounting.
Have you got an ISBN for that?
My wife learnt from the 2nd edition and I learnt from the 3rd edition
two decades ago. {:-) By B.T Colditz and R.W. Gibbons ISBN 0 07 451017
7. It was the text for first year accountancy (business) students at
Kuring-gai CAE (now UTS).
It taught book keeping through to and including a full set of books for
a small concern. It doesn't teach tax law, which is what I paid my
accountant to know {:-).
Unfortunately, I could not dig it up at Co-op Bookshop
(http://www.coop-bookshop.com.au), so I guess it has been superceeded.
It looks like they are now using
Accounting ( Aust Edition ) Study Guide Cdrom ( Package )
by Horngren Tyler ISBN: 0922972001
$120 RRP, $108 to members.
I have no idea what this book is like, but I understand that double
entry accounting hasn't changed its basis since the phoecians (sp?)
{:-).
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[SLUG] Final Call for GLUG Trip: 22-23 May 2004
When: Saturday, May 22 to Sunday, May 23 Where: Goonellabah (Lismore, Northern NSW) For a map of the area: (http://www.users.bigpond.com/lismorenet/map.htm) This is a FINAL CALL for the Slug trip to Goonellabah. If you want to come, you must send confirmation by Wednesday, May 12, or else you're going to miss out! If you have already confirmed with Craig Warner, you'll need to reconfirm - sorry about this. All confirmations should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll be venturing up to Goonellabah to share skills and advice, give talks, show off cool stuff, and have a good time with the Goonellabah Linux User's Group (http://glug.dyndns.org). Flight details are as follows: Flight 223: Departs Sydney May 22 7:50 am, Arrives Lismore May 22 9:25am Flight 228: Departs Lismore May 23 5:10 pm, Arrives Sydney May 23 6:50 pm Group bookings are essential - REX does have discounts for group bookings of 10 or more passengers which are around 50% off the full economy airfare. With group booking, the estimated flight cost is around $130 return per person. If we do not do a group booking, we're looking at $260 a head. You're more than welcome to make your own way up, but this needs to be mentioned in your confirmation. We'll be staying at the Karinga motel (http://www.motorinn.net/), and the cost is still being arranged.They may also be billeting opportunities. Final payment must be arranged by Friday May 14. Payment details will be provided later in the week. This is a great opportunity to get together with other like minded Linux users, have a good time, share your skills, and learn a bit over an enjoyable weekend. Lindsay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Final Call for GLUG Trip: 22-23 May 2004
On Sun, 9 May 2004 19:28:00 +1000 Lindsay Holmwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll be staying at the Karinga motel (http://www.motorinn.net/), and the cost is still being arranged. They may also be billeting opportunities. Just to clarify this - the cost will be $80 per person, per night. Lindsay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
I have no idea what this book is like, but I understand that double
entry accounting hasn't changed its basis since the phoecians (sp?)
{:-).
Sorry to trump you on that one but double entry bookkeeping is
basically an early renaissance invention -- the first manuals
being available around 1458, traceable to a monk from Dubrovnik.
The first printed manual on it appeared in Venice in 1494.
Well after the phonecians, I'm afraid.
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Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 19:21, Terry Collins wrote: Unfortunately, I could not dig it up at Co-op Bookshop (http://www.coop-bookshop.com.au), so I guess it has been superceeded. It looks like they are now using Accounting ( Aust Edition ) Study Guide Cdrom ( Package ) by Horngren Tyler ISBN: 0922972001 $120 RRP, $108 to members. I did Accounting for Business last semester at UTS, the book we used is called 'Accounting 3' (obviously all six authors put a lot of thought into the name), the ISBN is 0-7248-0500-1. As far as text books go it was pretty good, lots of tables, case studies, review questions etc. but I'm sure a better introduction to Australian accounting exists that doesn't occupy 1072 pages. The 3rd edition is still the latest edition and was printed in 2001 so there should be a few copies lying around at second hand uni bookstores. cheers, -- Myles Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED] ByrneWebServices -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian Webmin 1.130 how to upgrade?
G'day, I am using Debian woddy and install webmin in it. I got version 1.130 by default, but I coulnd't upgrade it since on Webmin Configuration, I couldn't find Upgrade Webmin which it should be there in order for us to upgrade the webmin. I've tried to look at the webmin web site to find the spesific module, it for the version less than 1.130, there is no module of Upgrade Webmin available anmore. Is there sombody out there can help? __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian Webmin 1.130 how to upgrade?
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 05:49:33AM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: I am using Debian woddy and install webmin in it. I got version 1.130 by default, but I coulnd't upgrade it since on Webmin Configuration, I couldn't find Upgrade Webmin which it should be there in order for us to upgrade the webmin. If I had to guess, I'd imagine that the Debian maintainer would have gutted Webmin to remove the on-demand upgrade feature, as it would be expected that people would upgrade by upgrading the package within Debian. It would make it nigh-on impossible to track bugs and support upgrades properly if people were to upgrade their webmin installations independent of the packaging infrastructure. To upgrade, I would recommend waiting the few days it'll take for Jaldhar to get 1.140 uploaded, and then you can install it. Track http://bugs.debian.org/247649 to see when the new version gets uploaded. Also, the version of webmin in stable is 0.94. I presume you're using a backport, or else newer webmin packages still install cleanly into woody... - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] seg fault on df
Just letting people know, (and a question below) The upgrade to 2.6 went well and solved my problem. At first I was completely unable to upgrade (seg faulting somewhere in the install of the kernel package whilst on 2.5) So thankfully I had not removed my last good 2.4 kernel so reverted to it (lilo worked thankfully) and then proceeded to upgrade. All seems good so far. I had to add psmouse to my /etc/modules list on boot to support my trackpad (at /dev/psaux), and my wireless pcmcia NIC moved from eth1 to eth2 so I had to update /etc/network/interfaces with a line for eth2. What's the reason for the netowork card move ? Thanks for the help ramon On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 11:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ramon Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Learn more why this is so by using commands 'ldd' and 'strace' like this: #ldd /bin/df #strace /bin/df Hi, sometime in the past month, I performed an upgrade to my unstable debian. (apt-get update/upgrade) and possibly (i can't remember, a dist-upgrade. I'm now getting a seg fault on a few commands., but repeatable is when attempting to run df. Can anyone suggest a way I can resolve the issue? My ultimate aim is to fix without a reinstall the box. (but if needed, I guess I will). Probably the one thing that might be the issue is I am running 2.5.72 kernel. Here's my seg fault (not that it will help much, but show my pain I guess :-) sebago:~# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 1Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0018 printing eip: 0018 *pde = Oops: [#14] CPU:0 EIP:0060:[0018]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010246 eax: 010c ebx: 08051228 ecx: 0054 edx: 007b esi: b420 edi: 40156510 ebp: c438a000 esp: c438bfc0 ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Process df (pid: 9407, threadinfo=c438a000 task=c326ace0) Stack: c010904f 08051228 0054 b420 b420 40156510 b408 010c 007b 007b 010c 400f0334 0073 0246 b3b0 007b Call Trace: [c010904f] Code: Bad EIP value. Segmentation fault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] seg fault on df
You should start at eth0. So I guess the kernel thinks there is 3 network cards in your machine. lspci ifconfig -a and see if you can see all three. Glad to here it went well. Greg On Sun, 9 May 2004 11:09 pm, Ramon Buckland wrote: Just letting people know, (and a question below) The upgrade to 2.6 went well and solved my problem. At first I was completely unable to upgrade (seg faulting somewhere in the install of the kernel package whilst on 2.5) So thankfully I had not removed my last good 2.4 kernel so reverted to it (lilo worked thankfully) and then proceeded to upgrade. All seems good so far. I had to add psmouse to my /etc/modules list on boot to support my trackpad (at /dev/psaux), and my wireless pcmcia NIC moved from eth1 to eth2 so I had to update /etc/network/interfaces with a line for eth2. What's the reason for the netowork card move ? Thanks for the help ramon On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 11:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ramon Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Learn more why this is so by using commands 'ldd' and 'strace' like this: #ldd /bin/df #strace /bin/df Hi, sometime in the past month, I performed an upgrade to my unstable debian. (apt-get update/upgrade) and possibly (i can't remember, a dist-upgrade. I'm now getting a seg fault on a few commands., but repeatable is when attempting to run df. Can anyone suggest a way I can resolve the issue? My ultimate aim is to fix without a reinstall the box. (but if needed, I guess I will). Probably the one thing that might be the issue is I am running 2.5.72 kernel. Here's my seg fault (not that it will help much, but show my pain I guess :-) sebago:~# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 1Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0018 printing eip: 0018 *pde = Oops: [#14] CPU:0 EIP:0060:[0018]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010246 eax: 010c ebx: 08051228 ecx: 0054 edx: 007b esi: b420 edi: 40156510 ebp: c438a000 esp: c438bfc0 ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Process df (pid: 9407, threadinfo=c438a000 task=c326ace0) Stack: c010904f 08051228 0054 b420 b420 40156510 b408 010c 007b 007b 010c 400f0334 0073 0246 b3b0 007b Call Trace: [c010904f] Code: Bad EIP value. Segmentation fault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Spice under Linux (Debian Woody?)
I haven't used spice for an awful long time (was on punch cards) but I have been using IBIS models on Solaris. Where a part was not specified (eg some peculiar connector), I created the SPICE model from first principals, based on the part's geometry, which can then be converted to an IBIS model with a bit of text editing. If the part Q is not present, you might find it under BJT in the library. As the BJT is a pretty fundamental SPICE part, I'd be surprised if it was not present. BTW quite a few manufacturers have IBIS models up on the internet for downloads, especially big things like FPGAs and RAM arrays. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Matthew Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2004 5:43 PM To: Slug List Subject: Re: [SLUG] Spice under Linux (Debian Woody?) On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 10:55:48PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Is anyone doing any spice stuff under Linux? Under debian woody? Yes. Yes. (Well, not anymore, but I used to hammer it when doing my circuit analysis courses at Uni). If so, what apps are you using? Straight spice3. I taught myself the Spice circuit description language pretty early, and just stuck with that. After some trial and error, I wrote scripts to parse the output from various analysis methods and turn them into nice-looking GNUplot graphs, even to the level of dB gain graphs and stuff. I've been trying to use Oregano as the schmatic, then gnucap as the analysis, but gnucap barfs on Q (Bipolar Junction Transistor = not implemented), so I am rather stuck atm. Nope, no idea. I just drew the schematics using a text editor, ran spice3 in the -b (batch) mode, and then did whatever I needed with the output using various post-processing scripts. Hmm, possible idea for a SLUG talk - if there's at least (say) 10 people who put up their hands and say yes, a talk on Spice and all things nice -20 would be good I'll look at dredging up my hazy recollections and putting something together. At least it'll be useful to demonstrate the power of Unix scripting... grin - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
I have just stuffed up my triple boot system: Fedora/WinXP/RH7.2 BACKGROUND: Taking a HDD with an existing RH7.2 installation, and putting it into a functioning Fedora/XP dual boot system so that it can be booted (don't ask why - there are good reasons). ACTION: Booted into fedora, added the RH7.2 boot partition into /etc/fstab, mounted the rh /boot partition, changed its label, copied the lines from its grub.conf file into the fedora grub.conf file with relevant changes (eg, changing it from hd0,1 to hd1,1) (after backing up grub.conf, or course). PROBLEM 1: The new option shows up on the boot screen; however, when I choose it, I get the following error: root(hd1,1) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 Kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb3 Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition PROBLEM 2: Worse, when I select to boot into Fedora, I get the following errors: Unable to open /etc/fstab for writing: Read only file system. (then other Read only file system errors when the system tries to touch a file, until the boot hangs). Can't figure out how to fix it when I get into the grub command-line, either. Fortunately I can still boot into Windows (or I wouldn't be sending this email!) :-/ Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
I've accessed the boot filesystem (mounting it from a Lindows CD demo) and fixed that - it's now OK. I tried to mount the root filesystem in the same way (mounting it as a CDROM, as no other options were available in the mnt directory) and got an error: /dev/hda3 is already mounted or /mnt/cdrom is busy. Neither was true. Booting into Fedora shows that the fstab file is bad, and I'm assuming that I have to fix that to correct the problem. The only issue is how I access it when i can't boot or mount the partition! On 10 May 2004 at 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send us your grub.conf and details of your disk partitioning -- to the list Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
Problem has almost gone ()linux rescue to the rescue) - all I'm now experiencing is that the filesystem labels don't quite match what is being looked for. On 10 May 2004 at 11:37, Edwin Humphries wrote: I have just stuffed up my triple boot system: Fedora/WinXP/RH7.2 BACKGROUND: Taking a HDD with an existing RH7.2 installation, and putting it into a functioning Fedora/XP dual boot system so that it can be booted (don't ask why - there are good reasons). ACTION: Booted into fedora, added the RH7.2 boot partition into /etc/fstab, mounted the rh /boot partition, changed its label, copied the lines from its grub.conf file into the fedora grub.conf file with relevant changes (eg, changing it from hd0,1 to hd1,1) (after backing up grub.conf, or course). PROBLEM 1: The new option shows up on the boot screen; however, when I choose it, I get the following error: root(hd1,1) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 Kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb3 Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition PROBLEM 2: Worse, when I select to boot into Fedora, I get the following errors: Unable to open /etc/fstab for writing: Read only file system. (then other Read only file system errors when the system tries to touch a file, until the boot hangs). Can't figure out how to fix it when I get into the grub command- line, either. Fortunately I can still boot into Windows (or I wouldn't be sending this email!) :-/ Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:23:35PM +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: Problem has almost gone ()linux rescue to the rescue) - all I'm now experiencing is that the filesystem labels don't quite match what is being looked for. By default, RH uses volume labels rather than device names to mount its partitions. Fedora probably does the same. So /etc/fstab has lines like these: LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/home /home ext3defaults1 2 You need to change /etc/fstab on *both* to use the device names rather than labels, e.g.: /dev/hda1/ ext3defaults1 1 /dev/hda2/home ext3defaults1 2 Cheers, John -- I don't care if it was a hyperdestructive worm from the Phillipines; no journalist is prepared for outpourings of love in her email, however weird and viral. -- Angela Gunn, Seattle Weekly, 11-May-2000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] hp pda question
I know this is a really silly question, though i've been offered one of those HP pocket pcs for really cheap, the only problem being that it's running windoze 2003 mobile- and i've run a M$ free household for the past 6 months and don't intend to change that. (see http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_26_60_2343_FA174A.html) So here's the question- how easy is it to get Linux running on one of these babies? Has anybody had any success in doing so? I found a project called handhelds http://handhelds.org/ which looks promising but i'm just interested to hear of success or horror stories. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins wrote: I can recommend a book called Australian Accounting if you want to understand accounting. Have you got an ISBN for that? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Hugh Madden wrote: Hi all, I realise this thread was done to death a few years back. Anyway, perhaps the situation has improved. I resent having to purchase myob or quicken and vmware simply to keep track of my finances. I'm wondering how to go about: BAS/STS/depreciating assets GNU Cash looks pretty awful in respect to GST. I've been using SQL-Ledger now for two years (two tax returns). It does the basic double entry accounting perfectly. It's a very active open source project with new releases coming all the time. It does GST very well - albeit with some problems relating to single invoices with mixed taxable/non-taxable items. I get around that without too much hassle, and in any case it's not all that common a situation. It doesn't do depreciation. That's something your accountant does (or yourself if you are smart enough). I highly recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's very good, bug-free and improving constantly. It's better than MYOB (which i used previously) and even if you pay for the support it's cheaper. It's written in Perl/Postgres. I believe you can even run it on Windows, so you can keep you vmware going if you wish ;-) Is there any good open office spreadsheets floating around, or have any of the open source projects started to support australia tax? There must be a couple of hundred thousand home rolled systems around australia, why aren't any of them open source and shared? cheers, Hugh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
