[SLUG] apt-get and FC

2004-06-28 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi all,
I am wanting to use apt-get with FC1 and all works fine, except it wants
to remove a program I want to keep (ltsp-floppyd - which is used to allow
the thin client users to access their local floppy drive). Can I tell it
to upgrade but not remove? Can't see it in the options.

Yum fails on the dependency check, specifically on gtkam-gimp, we use and
need Gimp.


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Re: [SLUG] Anyone have any experience with Kiosks?

2004-06-28 Thread Mike MacCana
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:

 Hi Sluggers,

 Trying to lock down a RH9 box so that it automatically logs in as a kiosk user and 
 then starts up a FireFox browser window only (no window manager). I've achieved this 
 to an extent - The only thing that doesn't work is the keyboard. I can move the 
 mouse and click on links but I cannot type anything into the browser.

 Is anyone aware of anything screwy with the way X handles the keyboard if there's no 
 window manager. My memory of the days before gnome and kde were pretty standard was 
 that the keyboard would still work.

Yes. This is a known bug - I contratc for Red hat and ack when the RHCE
involved a multi choice test (using a web browser as the sole app), this
bug made itself apparent.

Killing X then re-logging in will provide a work around. But check
bugzilla to see if there's a fix.

Mike

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Re: [SLUG] Dell notebook. Any experiences

2004-06-28 Thread Mike MacCana
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, James Gray wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:28 am, Ben Donohue wrote:
  Hi Slugs,
 
  I'm just about to purchase a Dell Inspiron notebook. (Taxtime)
  It comes with XP but Linux will definitely be loaded on as well.

I have a Dell Inspiron 8500, and run FC2. You might be buying a newer
8600, which is the same thing.

Linux on the Inspiron 8500
---
The Broadcom network card works out of the box
The WXGA widescreen works fine
The multimedia keys work find in Gnome 2.6
TheDVD burner works ok
I use NVIDIAs drivers to get good performance from the GeForce. UT2K4
works great.
Dell Truemobile 1400 wireless a/b/g card works fine using Windows driver
and ndiswrapper, which is easy to install and get working.
The inbuilt bluetooth does not work. Buy a USB bluetooth adapter.

Would I Buy a Dell Again

No. Apple sell a laptop with a comparable screen that's 2 kilos as opposed
to the Dell's 3 kilos.

Dell support is shithouse. They're polite and completely unhelpful. Spare
parts take 2 1/2 months to arrive, they can't proactively give you a
tracking number to watch your order. Then they loose your payment and
biull you twice. And they don't respond to email.

Sure they'll apologize, but they won't fix the problem.

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Re: [SLUG] Anyone have any experience with Kiosks?

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Robinson
Is the bug purely on RH9? If not, which common distro's aren't affected?
Fedora? (assuming they might have fixed it when it branched) or Debian
perhaps?

Cheers,
Paul

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From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Anyone have any experience with Kiosks?


 On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:

  Hi Sluggers,
 
  Trying to lock down a RH9 box so that it automatically logs in as a
kiosk user and then starts up a FireFox browser window only (no window
manager). I've achieved this to an extent - The only thing that doesn't work
is the keyboard. I can move the mouse and click on links but I cannot type
anything into the browser.
 
  Is anyone aware of anything screwy with the way X handles the keyboard
if there's no window manager. My memory of the days before gnome and kde
were pretty standard was that the keyboard would still work.

 Yes. This is a known bug - I contratc for Red hat and ack when the RHCE
 involved a multi choice test (using a web browser as the sole app), this
 bug made itself apparent.

 Killing X then re-logging in will provide a work around. But check
 bugzilla to see if there's a fix.

 Mike



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[SLUG] statically linked versions of samba and cups

2004-06-28 Thread Shaun Oliver
hi all,
does anyone know where I can get some static binaries of smbd, nmbd, and 
cupsd,
I want to incorperate these into a smoothwall installation because the 
person I'm giving the installation too needs specifically a print 
server/router and smoothwall is the easiest way I can think of giving 
them what they want.
unless anyone knows of another such distro that contains what I need.
thanks in advance.

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Re: [SLUG] statically linked versions of samba and cups

2004-06-28 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 10:56:41PM EST, Shaun Oliver wrote:
 hi all,
 does anyone know where I can get some static binaries of smbd, nmbd, and 
 cupsd,
 I want to incorperate these into a smoothwall installation because the 
 person I'm giving the installation too needs specifically a print 
 server/router and smoothwall is the easiest way I can think of giving 
 them what they want.

Have you looked at Clark Connect? http://www.clarkconnect.com? It is RPM based,
and can do everything that Smoothwall can do, and also comes with Samba, Cups
and the rest, as far as I know anyway. What is more, it can be administered from
a web-based interface.

hth

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Re: [SLUG] statically linked versions of samba and cups

2004-06-28 Thread Shaun Oliver
might have a look at that

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Re: [SLUG] statically linked versions of samba and cups

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Hardy
On 06/28/04 22:56, Shaun Oliver wrote:
does anyone know where I can get some static binaries of smbd, nmbd, and 
cupsd,
Pete's 10 second guide to building static binaries:
Download and extract source tarball.
$ export CFLAGS=-static
$ export LDFLAGS=-static
Follow the package directions for compiling source.
This should work for any package that uses autoconf (and luckily both 
samba and CUPS do :-D). If you run a ./configure script as part of the 
build process, you should be sweet. The environment variables define 
options to add to the compiler and linker command lines respectively. 
I'm not sure if you need to set the CFLAGS - that's just how I've been 
doing it. Certainly doesn't do any harm. :-)

It's worthwhile running file(1) on the executables you end up building. 
It'll tell you if they really did end up static. Then strip(1) them, and 
you're ready to clag them wherever they need to be.

If file says the binary is dynamically linked, or if your source package 
doesn't recognise the environment variables, then you may need to 
manually edit makefiles and add -static to the linker command line.

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[SLUG] St George Internet Banking

2004-06-28 Thread jponza
Hi there,

I think there might have been some discussion on this once before, (before 
I had joined the list) because I seem to remember finding some threads on 
an online archive from this group.

Has *anyone* had any success in accessing St George Internet Banking, 
using linux - with any combination of java virtual machine and browser...

I have tried netscape, mozilla, firefox with Sun's JVM but have had no 
luck.

I even tried using Cedega (winex4) and crossover office to install MSIE 
(hey if I only use it for one thing it may as well be the thing that 
requires the best security ;) ) and the windows version of firefox, but to 
no avail...

I'd really love to hear from anyone who has successfully done this...

thanks :)

James

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Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking

2004-06-28 Thread John Nicholls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has *anyone* had any success in accessing St George Internet Banking, 
using linux - with any combination of java virtual machine and browser...
Mozilla 1.4
Java Blackdown-1.4.1-01
PrefBar 1.2.1 set to Moz 1.0 Win98
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Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking

2004-06-28 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has *anyone* had any success in accessing St George Internet Banking,
 using linux - with any combination of java virtual machine and
 browser...

I am accessing it successfully with:

Mozilla Firefox 0.8 (Debian build 0.8-9)
Sun's JRE JVM 1.4.2 (1.4.2_03 from java.sun.com)
User-Agent set to:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007

(I use the User Agent Switcher at
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/useragentswitcher to set the
User-Agent).

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[SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread David

I've just gone to the ATO site to download the latest tax scale (search
for form NAT 1005 from the ATO home page) and what I get is a file called
distributor.asp, which is obviously some M$ crap.

Since I steadfastly refuse to run a windows box on principle, what can I
do with it to turn it into useful information? Is there any GOOD reason
why the ATO should not provide the information as something like a
tab-delimited spreadsheet format, given the essential and public nature of
the data?

Grrr
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Re: [SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread Michael Lake
David wrote:
I've just gone to the ATO site to download the latest tax scale (search
for form NAT 1005 from the ATO home page) and what I get is a file called
distributor.asp, which is obviously some M$ crap.
Since I steadfastly refuse to run a windows box on principle, what can I
do with it to turn it into useful information? Is there any GOOD reason
why the ATO should not provide the information as something like a
tab-delimited spreadsheet format, given the essential and public nature of
the data?
I searched for NAT 1005 and get these two hits
1. Pay as you go (PAYG) withholding - weekly tax table incorporating 
medicare levy with and without leave loading 	Current from: 27 May 2004
2. Pay as you go (PAYG) withholding tax tables - weekly rates 
incorporating medicare levy with or without leave loading

Both are html links that end up loading a PDF for me.
Im using Mozilla on Debian Linux.
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Re: [SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004, David wrote:
 I've just gone to the ATO site to download the latest tax scale (search
 for form NAT 1005 from the ATO home page) and what I get is a file called
 distributor.asp , which is obviously some M$ crap.

It sounds like an error actually, unless .asp has a different,
additional, meaning that I'm not aware of. ASP scripts are meant to be
interpreted server-side, you should have received the output of the
script (HTML normally).

Have you looked in the file?

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Re: [SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:04:46AM +1000, David wrote:
 Since I steadfastly refuse to run a windows box on principle, what can I
 do with it to turn it into useful information? Is there any GOOD reason
 why the ATO should not provide the information as something like a
 tab-delimited spreadsheet format, given the essential and public nature of
 the data?

Because Billy sucks as hard as his software?

To identify what it is, try running the magical 'file' command (it truly is
magic, I love it) over the file in question.

Oddly though, I just went looking for Form 1005 on the ATO website.  I got
two hits -- both for PAYG witholding tables.  Clicked on the one for next
FY, got a PDF, downloaded, viewed fine.  Perchance your browser isn't
looking at the HTTP headers properly?  The link is
http://www.ato.gov.au/distributor.asp?doc=/content/44998.htm -- which means
that, by default, the save name of the document will be 'distributor.asp'
(since that's the name of the file you're accessing).  But pages can
override that by setting the Content-Disposition header, which the ATO
appears to be doing.  So what you probably have is a PDF in that
distributor.asp file you've got.

So, for once, it's not Gatesware screwing up, it's your browser. 
Particularly ironic is that fact that, had the same error turned up on a
Windows box, you could have had all sorts of troubles renaming it so a PDF
reader would actually deign to read it...

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Re: [SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread David

thanks to those who replied.. it's true that I jumped to conclusions,
assuming that ATO assumed that I'm using windows (something they have
done in the past!).

It is in fact a PDF file masquerading with .asp, and opens fine on my OSX
box simply by asking it to open the file with acrobat. Now I have to pull
it apart to get the information I REALLY need.



On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:04:46AM +1000, David wrote:
  Since I steadfastly refuse to run a windows box on principle, what can I
  do with it to turn it into useful information? Is there any GOOD reason
  why the ATO should not provide the information as something like a
  tab-delimited spreadsheet format, given the essential and public nature of
  the data?

 Because Billy sucks as hard as his software?

 To identify what it is, try running the magical 'file' command (it truly is
 magic, I love it) over the file in question.

 Oddly though, I just went looking for Form 1005 on the ATO website.  I got
 two hits -- both for PAYG witholding tables.  Clicked on the one for next
 FY, got a PDF, downloaded, viewed fine.  Perchance your browser isn't
 looking at the HTTP headers properly?  The link is
 http://www.ato.gov.au/distributor.asp?doc=/content/44998.htm -- which means
 that, by default, the save name of the document will be 'distributor.asp'
 (since that's the name of the file you're accessing).  But pages can
 override that by setting the Content-Disposition header, which the ATO
 appears to be doing.  So what you probably have is a PDF in that
 distributor.asp file you've got.

 So, for once, it's not Gatesware screwing up, it's your browser.
 Particularly ironic is that fact that, had the same error turned up on a
 Windows box, you could have had all sorts of troubles renaming it so a PDF
 reader would actually deign to read it...

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Re: [SLUG] Anyone have any experience with Kiosks?

2004-06-28 Thread Mike MacCana
Don't know, check bugzilla.

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:

 Is the bug purely on RH9? If not, which common distro's aren't affected?
 Fedora? (assuming they might have fixed it when it branched) or Debian
 perhaps?

 Cheers,
 Paul

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 To: Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] Anyone have any experience with Kiosks?


  On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:
 
   Hi Sluggers,
  
   Trying to lock down a RH9 box so that it automatically logs in as a
 kiosk user and then starts up a FireFox browser window only (no window
 manager). I've achieved this to an extent - The only thing that doesn't work
 is the keyboard. I can move the mouse and click on links but I cannot type
 anything into the browser.
  
   Is anyone aware of anything screwy with the way X handles the keyboard
 if there's no window manager. My memory of the days before gnome and kde
 were pretty standard was that the keyboard would still work.
 
  Yes. This is a known bug - I contratc for Red hat and ack when the RHCE
  involved a multi choice test (using a web browser as the sole app), this
  bug made itself apparent.
 
  Killing X then re-logging in will provide a work around. But check
  bugzilla to see if there's a fix.
 
  Mike
 
 

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Re: [SLUG] tax office dummy spit

2004-06-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:35:55AM +1000, David wrote:
 It is in fact a PDF file masquerading with .asp, and opens fine on my OSX
 box simply by asking it to open the file with acrobat. Now I have to pull
 it apart to get the information I REALLY need.

Yeah -- finding out it's a PDF doesn't really help with the core issue at
hand... Supplying it in a trivially importable format would kill half of
MYOB's renewal sales, though...

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[SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Edwin Humphries
WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of 
some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double 
bounce, virus laden stuff.

Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine 
down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no 
avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in 
/var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.

Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re-
create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it?

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread James Gray
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:15 am, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of
 some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double
 bounce, virus laden stuff.

 Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine
 down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no
 avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in
 /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.

 Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re-
 create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it?

Here the way I'd approach it:

1. Stop sendmail (killall -TERM sendmail)
2. Rename the existing queue directory 
mv /var/spool/mqueue /var/spool/mqueue.old.
3. Create a NEW /var/spool/mqueue directory with the same permissions as the 
previous one.
4. Restart sendmail.

Now you can do whatever you need to on the /var/spool/mqueue.old directory 
and sendmail will just chug along like it always has.  Once you've cleaned 
up the mqueue.old directory, just copy the queue files over to the 
working mqueue directory and sendmail will just process them :)

HTH

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 11:15, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine 
 down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no 
 avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in 
 /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.

cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm

That's the way I prefer, but it's certainly not the only one. :-)

xargs will split the arguments up in to chunks that are under the
maximum argument list, and feed each chunk to a seperate rm process.
It's pretty awesome - check the man page.

I'd recommend using this in conjunction with James' advice for maximum
happy fun mail time.

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Glen Turner
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 10:45, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of 
 some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double 
 bounce, virus laden stuff.
 
 Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine 
 down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no 
 avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in 
 /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.

Deleting huge numbers of files:

  find /var/spool/mqueue -type f -exec rm -f {} \;

or

  find /var/spool/mqueue -type f -print | xargs /bin/rm -f

or for minimal downtime in your scenario

  cd /var/spool
  /sbin/service sendmail stop
  mv mqueue mqueue-1
  mkdir mqueue
  chown --reference mqueue-1 mqueue
  chmod --reference mqueue-1 mqueue
  /sbin/service sendmail start
  rm -rf /var/spool/mqueue-1

Cheers,
Glen

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[SLUG] Help with Samba on Webmin

2004-06-28 Thread Matthew Tse
Hi all,

I'm having a hard time using Webmin to administer a box running Samba.  
The idea is for the client to use Webmin to fully administer the 
fileserver; from creating users to setting up share permissions, etc.

The problem I'm currently having is, using Webmin to create a share for 
Samba ends up with owner and group of the share directory set to root.  
This makes writing to the share in Windows not possible.  I've gone 
through a lot of documentation on the web and haven't found anything which 
points out what I could be doing wrong.

Of course I'm open to other suggestions on what else could be used 
instead.  I tried using SWAT but it doesn't create the actual directories 
when you create the shares for Samba so this requires a few extra steps 
which could make it complicated for the Windows user.

Ideally I'd like the client to avoid touching the Linux machine as much as 
possible.  Making it easier than doing it on Windows is preferable.

Thanks in advance,

Matthew.

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Terry Collins
Peter Hardy wrote:

 cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm

Doesn't it barf on the ls with the same message?

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Terry Collins
Edwin Humphries wrote:

...snip..

 But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in
 /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.

try

for o in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g h i .X Y Z
do
echo $o
something like rm $o*
done

I use if for tossing my spam into monthly folders.

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 12:03, Terry Collins wrote:
 Peter Hardy wrote:
 
  cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm
 
 Doesn't it barf on the ls with the same message?

You had me worried for a minute. :-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mkdir tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ for filename in `seq 1 5`; do touch $filename;
done
*go and have lunch*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ rm *
bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls | xargs rm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$

ls doesn't actually deal with any arguments, it's basically just dumping
the contents of the . inode to stdout. (note: claim may be wildly
inaccurate and simplistic)

And just to add to the obscure ls arguments thread, I just discovered
-1, to output one filename per line. I've never needed this, as GNU ls
seems to default to that when it's outputting to a pipe. But it's good
to know!

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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Terry Collins
Peter Hardy wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 12:03, Terry Collins wrote:
  Peter Hardy wrote:
 
   cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm
 
  Doesn't it barf on the ls with the same message?
 
 You had me worried for a minute. :-)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mkdir tmp
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd tmp
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ for filename in `seq 1 5`; do touch $filename;
 done
 *go and have lunch*
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ rm *
 bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls | xargs rm
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$

Okay, you are correct
Hmm, guess who has never used just ls {:-)

...snip.

 And just to add to the obscure ls arguments thread, I just discovered
 -1, to output one filename per line. I've never needed this, as GNU ls
 seems to default to that when it's outputting to a pipe.

Not debian woody {:-)
It just dumps with a couple of spaces between each filename.



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RE: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Ben Lisle


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 Of Edwin Humphries
 Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

 WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of
 some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double
 bounce, virus laden stuff.

Ouch :-)
 
 Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine
 down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no
 avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in
 /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.
 
 Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re-
 create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it?

Try this...

Locate the offending spammer IP addresses then run...

find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |sed s/qf/df/g |xargs rm
find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |xargs rm

That should clean your queue while leaving those legitimate messages
that are just waiting for delivery.
 
 Edwin Humphries,
 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.ironstone.com.au
 Phone: 02 4233 2285
 Fax: 02 4233 2299
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[SLUG] ssh command

2004-06-28 Thread Simon Bryan
I am trying to get SOPHOS to update automatically on my linux servers as
well as all the MS servers and workstations, in fact the MS ones all work
nicely - updated every four hours.

The instructions for doing this in Linux are given below, can anyone tell
me what they mean by a 'shared area' and how that ssh command is supposed
to work?...and what's a 'trust relationship' in Linux?

Cheers
SImon





If you have multiple, networked Unix computers, you may want to install
and update Sophos Anti-Virus from a central directory, rather than carrying
out installation at each computer separately.
This procedure assumes that there is a trust relationship between the
computers.
1. On one Unix computer, set up a shared area that is available to all the
other
computers.
2. Untar the Sophos Anti-Virus for Unix distribution archive or archives
to this
shared area.
If you have computers on your network that use more than one Unix
operating system (e.g. Linux and FreeBSD), untar the distribution archive for
each system into a separate directory.
3. Use ssh to run the install.sh script on every connected Unix computer,
from
the shared area. For example, enter
ssh -l [username] [hostname] / .install.sh
where [username] is your user ID and [hostname] is the computer on which
you want to install Sophos Anti-Virus.
In each case, ensure that you run install.sh from the correct set of
distribution files for that computer?s operating system.
On older Unix computers, ssh may not be available. You can use rsh
instead, though it is less secure.
Step 3 can be put into a script which is run from one of your Unix
computers.


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RE: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue

2004-06-28 Thread Edwin Humphries
Thanks for all the suggestions. I've learned something.

But I used James Gray's early suggestion: rename the mqueue 
directory, create another with the same ownership and permissions, 
and restart sendmail. Everything seems to be working OK.

May not have been quite as cool a solution as some of the others, but 
if it's working ...

On 29 Jun 2004 at 15:09, Ben Lisle wrote:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
 Behalf
  Of Edwin Humphries
  Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:16 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue
 
  WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue 
of
  some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double
  bounce, virus laden stuff.
 
 Ouch :-)
 
  Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the 
machine
  down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to 
no
  avail. But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in
  /var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.
  
  Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re-
  create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it?
 
 Try this...
 
 Locate the offending spammer IP addresses then run...
 
 find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |sed s/qf/df/g |xargs 
rm
 find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |xargs rm
 
 That should clean your queue while leaving those legitimate 
messages
 that are just waiting for delivery.
 
  Edwin Humphries,
  Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.ironstone.com.au
  Phone: 02 4233 2285
  Fax: 02 4233 2299
  Mobile: 0419 233 051
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Re: [SLUG] Help with Samba on Webmin

2004-06-28 Thread Edwin Humphries
Matthew

We do this, but we set up the directories for the customers in 
advance from the console.

They can create sub-directories from their Windows clients if your 
have create mask and directory mask set to 0777, and the sub-
directories will be world readable.

If when they create users from Webmin, you have it set to also create 
the /home directory, and share those through samba, each person can 
also have private information on the server.

Works great for us (unless I've completely missed your point!)

On 29 Jun 2004 at 11:28, Matthew Tse wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm having a hard time using Webmin to administer a box running 
Samba.
  The idea is for the client to use Webmin to fully administer the
 fileserver; from creating users to setting up share permissions, 
etc.
 
 The problem I'm currently having is, using Webmin to create a share
 for Samba ends up with owner and group of the share directory set 
to
 root.  This makes writing to the share in Windows not possible.  
I've
 gone through a lot of documentation on the web and haven't found
 anything which points out what I could be doing wrong.
 
 Of course I'm open to other suggestions on what else could be used
 instead.  I tried using SWAT but it doesn't create the actual
 directories when you create the shares for Samba so this requires a
 few extra steps which could make it complicated for the Windows 
user.
 
 Ideally I'd like the client to avoid touching the Linux machine as
 much as possible.  Making it easier than doing it on Windows is
 preferable.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Matthew.
 
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Re: [SLUG] ssh command

2004-06-28 Thread Phil Scarratt
Simon Bryan wrote:
I am trying to get SOPHOS to update automatically on my linux servers as
well as all the MS servers and workstations, in fact the MS ones all work
nicely - updated every four hours.
The instructions for doing this in Linux are given below, can anyone tell
me what they mean by a 'shared area' and how that ssh command is supposed
to work?...and what's a 'trust relationship' in Linux?
Cheers
SImon

If you have multiple, networked Unix computers, you may want to install
and update Sophos Anti-Virus from a central directory, rather than carrying
out installation at each computer separately.
This procedure assumes that there is a trust relationship between the
computers.
1. On one Unix computer, set up a shared area that is available to all the
other
computers.
Probably NFS share
2. Untar the Sophos Anti-Virus for Unix distribution archive or archives
to this
shared area.
If you have computers on your network that use more than one Unix
operating system (e.g. Linux and FreeBSD), untar the distribution archive for
each system into a separate directory.
3. Use ssh to run the install.sh script on every connected Unix computer,
from
the shared area. For example, enter
ssh -l [username] [hostname] / .install.sh
where [username] is your user ID and [hostname] is the computer on which
you want to install Sophos Anti-Virus.
In each case, ensure that you run install.sh from the correct set of
distribution files for that computer?s operating system.
On older Unix computers, ssh may not be available. You can use rsh
instead, though it is less secure.
Step 3 can be put into a script which is run from one of your Unix
computers.

The ssh command logs on to a remote computer and executes a given 
command (at least that's what the given syntax of the ssh command does.

I've found Sophos phone support pretty good - and they even talk Linux 
(or at least I've spoken to someone who does).

Fil
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