[SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks
As some may have heard we had an incredibly successful install fest over the week-end at the university of Wollongong. A really fantastic team had a lot of fun helping 57 students set up their dual boot machines so they were like the lab computers in the Uni. First to our wonderful sponsors ELX. Sponsors are always difficult to find. ELX has been wonderful in their support of this event. Many thanks. Next to our big brother LUG SLUG. The members of SLUG who selflessly come down here to help out is always truly amazing. Thanks. To the University staff involved: Prof. Philip Ogunbona, Daniel Saffiotti, Michael Milway and David Wilson. Thanks. Our helpers: Craig, Billy, Shelagh, James, James, Menno, Martin, Jeremy, Peter, Jude, Tim. Thanks. The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there. SCLUG continues to go from strength to strength. Regards, Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks
On 3/13/06, ashley maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there. The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free and should remain free after beta cycle finishes. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Volunteering for SLUG (Re: My Slug Report, 2005-2006)
Mary Gardiner wrote: Therefore, some notes from the perspective of someone on activities only: 1. I did know the wiki existed. 2. I had no idea until very recently that the wiki was used in this fashion and have never checked it. As best I can tell, activities was never informed of this function of the wiki. Our bad. We should have done more to facilitate that. In fact, one could say that this year the function of activities was duplicated to an extent on the wiki. 3. A number of event discussions, most particularly Software Freedom Day discussion, are moved *off* activities to slug-chat where everyone is. And that shouldn't happen. For SFD this year we should keep everything on list. 4. You did not, it seems, consider your report worth posting on activities. Not really, I just forgot about it! :-) It should have been posted there though, as some of it is quite appropriate to that list. I am probably a relatively special case, in that most people interested enough to help out are also interested enough to be on all the lists and therefore tend to be in the loop a bit more. But nevertheless it would be great if the committee and other interested parties could think about having a single well-advertised forum where interested volunteers can hang out, be it activities or somewhere else and take care to alert that group to anything of interest. It would also be nice if there was an active ongoing promotion of that forum so that people don't feel that the place to reach all our keen newer community members interested in volunteering is *slug-chat*, the anything goes list! Some find it easier to post things anonymously through a browser than shoot off an email to a list. The wiki is also handy as a static reference for newcomers that's updated when things are decided upon or in the works. We set up the wiki because people asked us to. This year we'll have to deal with merging the two mediums. I think realistically activities should remain *the* place to discuss and organise stuff. Something simple as sending a notification to the list everytime someone edits the wiki would be sufficient for keeping the two sources in sync. Pondering, Lindsay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks
quote(Michael Fox); The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free and should remain free after beta cycle finishes. Or for the people not running linux (which would be the point of the image), vmware player is free and sane! -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] hylafax
Apparently the problem lies in the ip_tables.config Hylafax seems to work if I do this: modprobe ip_conntrack modeprobe ip_conntrack ports=21,4559 modeprobe ip_nat_ftp ports=21,4559 but this does not persist across reboots. How do I do this? Regards, Phill O'Flynn __ _ _ __ __ / |/ / // / // __/___/_ _/ __// __// /_/ / / /|_/ / // /\ \/ __ /__/ / // ___/ /__/ __ / /_/ /_/\___/___/\___/ /_/ \___/\___/_/ /_/ Muse-Tech - Electrical Drafting Services Ph02 4782 6832 Fax02 4782 6835 Mobile: 0422 202 422 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: P.O. Box 6007 Katoomba NSW 2780 -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 2:51 PM To: Phill O'Flynn Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax I used this howto when I setup hylafax for a windows laptop. http://brneurosci.org/linuxsetup24.html On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:40 +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: I am having trouble sending a fax from a windows client (winprint hylafax)and I can't figure out whyI can send a fax from the linux box ok. I can also telnet the server andport and connect successfullyOn the windows machine the client does everything it's supposed to until thedocument hits the print spooler which is where everything seems to stop.Is there a log file to check to see if the linux box is blocking thetransmission?I have tried by disabling the windows firewall but I still get the sameresponseRegards, Phill O'Flynn Don't worry it's not a bug, it's a feature. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks
I agree the vmware image is a great idea. (especially for nubs like me ;) Shame I missed this install fest, I went to one a while back and they are terrific!! On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 20:28 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Michael Fox); The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free and should remain free after beta cycle finishes. Or for the people not running linux (which would be the point of the image), vmware player is free and sane! -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RE: [SCLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks
It gives you a happy can do attitude helping out at an install fest Of course, i went home and updated my system, restarted tonight and promptly realised i have now broken the devfs *coughs* On 3/13/06, ashley maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some may have heard we had an incredibly successful install fest over the week-end at the university of Wollongong. A really fantastic team had a lot of fun helping 57 students set up their dual boot machines so they were like the lab computers in the Uni. First to our wonderful sponsors ELX. Sponsors are always difficult to find. ELX has been wonderful in their support of this event. Many thanks. Next to our big brother LUG SLUG. The members of SLUG who selflessly come down here to help out is always truly amazing. Thanks. To the University staff involved: Prof. Philip Ogunbona, Daniel Saffiotti, Michael Milway and David Wilson. Thanks. Our helpers: Craig, Billy, Shelagh, James, James, Menno, Martin, Jeremy, Peter, Jude, Tim. Thanks. The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there. SCLUG continues to go from strength to strength. Regards, Ashley ___ SCLUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sclug.asn.au/mailman/listinfo/sclug -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:35, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Hylafax seems to work if I do this: but this does not persist across reboots. How do I do this? Tell your system to do it every time it starts up. Tell us your distro (name version) and we can tell you how to do that if you don't know. Cheers, Bret pgpzu4rvcvh8h.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
Fedora 4 I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bret Comstock Waldow Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 5:16 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:35, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Hylafax seems to work if I do this: but this does not persist across reboots. How do I do this? Tell your system to do it every time it starts up. Tell us your distro (name version) and we can tell you how to do that if you don't know. Cheers, Bret -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:14:24AM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Fedora 4 I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu install cd's to give away...
Hey guys I have recently installed ubuntu on an old imac. I ordered the discs from ubuntu shipit, but during the wait I dowloaded the iso myself. I'm hoping installing flash and java is'nt too hard on ubuntu. I'm a newby! So I have the ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger install and live cd's to give away. for ppc, pc and 64bit pc. Sydney area, I live in Eastwood. peter-- www.peterbaker.id.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LUG Roundup Competition
OK Scluggers, I am running a competition for the LUG Roundup. Entries close Friday 17th. I can't write one about sclug. details are as follows. Rules and guidelines for the stanza competition. send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a minimum of 4 stanza poem/ditty/funny about your lug. Entries are now open and the competition will run for 4 weeks. Entries close March 17th. The winner will be announced in episode 18 of the LUG Roundup which goes to air on 18th March. Cherio, Karin -- “ Tried it, loved it, So now it's my life. MotherLUG on Linux” Karin Purser (aka MotherLUG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the podcasts visit: http://mirror.linux.org.au http://la-pod.k-sit.com Linux User # 404071 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Java/Flash on ppc was [SLUG] Ubuntu install cd's to give away...
On 3/14/06, Peter baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm hoping installing flash and java is'nt too hard on ubuntu. I'm a newby! I'm running Ubuntu (very happily) on an ibook, unfortunately support for non-free technologies on non-x86 platforms can be a bit of a pain sometimes. I think you'll find that: - Java is ok (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC) - Flash is not ok I don't bother with either (Java is fine when it's not in my browser, Flash on the other hand is evil! Evil I tells ya!), but I can appreciate that, particularly with browser plugins, this can be a pretty sore point. In both cases there are open source versions that may or may not do what you want (I suspect that more progress has been made on the Java front then on the flash front, however I don't have any recent experience to back that up). The ubuntu forums would probably be a good place to find peoples experience with this stuff. I could say just avoid websites that use flash (this can be a good idea whether you have a browser plugin or not :), however if you're new to linux and looking for the closest experience to what you may be used to then perhaps running it on an intel machine (if possible) might be an easier way to start. (Otherwise just take pleasure in cursing those who build sites you can't access, indignation builds character, I didn't want to look at your stupid site anyway you bastard) CheersSteve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates
Some may have seen the latest Ubuntu Security Notice (USN-263-1) which requires a new kernel. Now like many, I like my systems to run as slick as possible and I've manually installed a 686 kernel on my lappy and uninstalled every other linux-image* package. This is a problem. Because the new kernel is a new package (not just a version increment) it wont be installed with an apt-get upgrade or even and apt-get dist-upgrade. This problem burnt me when I went from Hoary-Breezy on my AMD64 machine too; the underlying system was upgraded but not the kernel. All manner of freaky juju then occurred until I manually grabbed Breezy's kernel, then balance was restored to the force. ;) There is an EASY solution though! There are a number of meta-packages that *always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture: linux-image-386 linux-image-686 ... etc Here's (a subset) of what apt has to say about the linux-image-686 package: Package: linux-image-686 Source: linux-meta Version: 2.6.12.16 Depends: linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 Description: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV. As these are updated to depend on the new kernel, when a new kernel is released you get it by virtue of the meta package's dependence on it. See how it works? Just thought with the looming release of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) and the recent security update, I'd share my (limited) insights to the wonderful world of apt on Ubuntu :) (BTW - I'm pretty sure Debian does things the same way, just double check the package names). Cheers, James -- I didn't get sophisticated -- I just got tired. But maybe that's what sophisticated is -- being tired. -- Rita Gain pgpK92bVAZ8hc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates
quote who=James Gray There is an EASY solution though! There are a number of meta-packages that *always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture: linux-image-386 linux-image-686 ... etc I'd recommend the linux-686 set too, which depend on both the kernel image and the restricted modules. - Jeff -- FISL 7.0: Porto Alegre, Brazilhttp://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/www/ I don't know whose brain child it was, but it was quite an ugly child. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. TIA -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures Bicycles, Computers, Outdoors, Publishing Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
Hey Terry, On Tuesday 14 March 2006 13:43, Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. How about \begin{eqnarray} x = \sqrt{175}-17^2 \\ = .. whatever .. \\ % and so on \end{eqnarray} If you don't want your equations numbered, you can use \begin{eqnarray*} ... \end{eqnarray*} TIA Regards, James -- James Ring pgpDjEkOm113a.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:43:58PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? I'd do it something like \begin{eqnarray*} a = \sqrt{175} - 17^2 \\ = 13.22 - 289 \\ = -275.78. \\ \end{eqnarray*} signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. Examples: \begin{eqnarray} \sqrt{175} - 17^2 = 13.228 - 289 \\ = -275.772 \end{eqnarray} \begin{eqnarray} a = b + c \\ x = y - z \end{eqnarray} oops the above went to slug-chat too by mistake. -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 8232 Fx: 9514 1460 [pls ignore idiot lawyer's msg below] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Latex, layout of maths answer
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:43:58PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? $\sqrt{175}-17^2$ (From memory, anyway) Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. \begin{tabular}{rcl} x = 1 y = 2 - x = 2 - 1 = 1 \end{tabular} (Again, from memory) The LaTeX docs are usually pretty good at describing math stuff, BTW. I recommend the essential guide for starting out. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates
I belive I've encountered this before and discovered that packages that refuse to be installed using apt-get can be installed using aptitude. Might want to give that a try first. Cheers, Carlo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:59 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates Some may have seen the latest Ubuntu Security Notice (USN-263-1) which requires a new kernel. Now like many, I like my systems to run as slick as possible and I've manually installed a 686 kernel on my lappy and uninstalled every other linux-image* package. This is a problem. Because the new kernel is a new package (not just a version increment) it wont be installed with an apt-get upgrade or even and apt-get dist-upgrade. This problem burnt me when I went from Hoary-Breezy on my AMD64 machine too; the underlying system was upgraded but not the kernel. All manner of freaky juju then occurred until I manually grabbed Breezy's kernel, then balance was restored to the force. ;) There is an EASY solution though! There are a number of meta-packages that *always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture: linux-image-386 linux-image-686 ... etc Here's (a subset) of what apt has to say about the linux-image-686 package: Package: linux-image-686 Source: linux-meta Version: 2.6.12.16 Depends: linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 Description: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV. As these are updated to depend on the new kernel, when a new kernel is released you get it by virtue of the meta package's dependence on it. See how it works? Just thought with the looming release of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) and the recent security update, I'd share my (limited) insights to the wonderful world of apt on Ubuntu :) (BTW - I'm pretty sure Debian does things the same way, just double check the package names). Cheers, James -- I didn't get sophisticated -- I just got tired. But maybe that's what sophisticated is -- being tired. -- Rita Gain -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. Given what you are trying appears to be problems for High School maths probs you might be interested also in the following packages on CTAN: http://www.ctan.org/info?id=exam Provides a class exam, which eases production of exams, even by a LaTeX novice. Simple commands are provided to: create questions, parts of questions, subparts of parts, and subsubparts of subparts, all with optional point values; create a grading table, indexed either by question number (listing each question and the total possible points for that question) or by page number (listing each page with points and the total possible points for that page). http://www.ctan.org/info?id=probsoln The package probsoln.sty is designed for lecturers who have to generate new problem sheets for their students on a regular basis (e.g. yearly) by randomly selecting a specified number of problems defined in another file. Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 8232 Fx: 9514 1460 [pls ignore idiot lawyer's msg below] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] hylafax
I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to put in it. I tried ... /etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like: options ip_conntrackports=21,4559 options ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 .. as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from the hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 9:04 AM To: Phill O'Flynn Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:14:24AM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Fedora 4 I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:04:46PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to put in it. The first comments in that file are a little short, but they summarise what's required pretty well: # Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers) # Default: -none- # Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp ip_nat_irc'), which # are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the helpers are # stored in /etc/modprobe.conf. IPTABLES_MODULES= So in your case that var would be IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack ip_nat_ftp I tried ... /etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like: options ip_conntrackports=21,4559 options ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 .. Yeah I dunno about /etc/modprobe.conf.local; I'd just put those lines in /etc/modprobe.conf as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from the hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot You should be able to do /sbin/service iptables restart to get it working after the previous config changes, but by all means do a reboot to satisfy yourself that it still works after a reboot. Matt -- must get myself one of those sig things sometime -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
Ok did that but when I execute /sbin/service iptables restart I got errors Initially [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED] But after that I keep getting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed [FAILED] Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 2:17 PM To: Phill O'Flynn Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:04:46PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to put in it. The first comments in that file are a little short, but they summarise what's required pretty well: # Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers) # Default: -none- # Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp ip_nat_irc'), which # are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the helpers are # stored in /etc/modprobe.conf. IPTABLES_MODULES= So in your case that var would be IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack ip_nat_ftp I tried ... /etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like: options ip_conntrackports=21,4559 options ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 .. Yeah I dunno about /etc/modprobe.conf.local; I'd just put those lines in /etc/modprobe.conf as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from the hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot You should be able to do /sbin/service iptables restart to get it working after the previous config changes, but by all means do a reboot to satisfy yourself that it still works after a reboot. Matt -- must get myself one of those sig things sometime -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED] You've mispelled ip_conntrack -- there are two n's. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] hylafax
DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed [FAILED] Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 2:43 PM To: Phill O'Flynn Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED] You've mispelled ip_conntrack -- there are two n's. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed [FAILED] I guess you have something funky on line 36 of /etc/sysconfig/iptables. It also looks like you have iptables save and restore on stop/start. Mine doesn't; I explicitly maintain /etc/sysconfig/iptables under version control. Whether it saves/restores or not seems to be another option in /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config. I suggest you set IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_STOP=no IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART=no as well. You can send your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file to me privately if you want and I'll give it a butchers. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
I have sent those files via your private email address as requested. I suppose an alternative would be to include the commands in a script file to be automatically run after the firewall is loaded??? Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 3:03 PM To: Phill O'Flynn Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed [FAILED] I guess you have something funky on line 36 of /etc/sysconfig/iptables. It also looks like you have iptables save and restore on stop/start. Mine doesn't; I explicitly maintain /etc/sysconfig/iptables under version control. Whether it saves/restores or not seems to be another option in /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config. I suggest you set IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_STOP=no IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART=no as well. You can send your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file to me privately if you want and I'll give it a butchers. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer
Terry Collins wrote: Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex? Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your working with equal signs all lined up. TIA Thanks folks. The use of the = isn't given anywhere (Lamport, or Gossens, et al.) and that seems to be the key. In the answer from the ether mode that occurs just after you send a questions to Slug, I ended up working out that this worked okay; \begin{tabbing} $ something $ \= $ \something $ \\ $ \something $ \\ $ \something $ \\ \end{tabbing} Thanks for the actual layout of the \eqnarray. That will save a bit of hair pulling. soapbox The problem with a lot of Linux application and stuff like Latex is that documentation is woefully bad. I've spent 20 years winging it in user support working out how to do similar and more complex stuff in various MS OS based applications and the answer was rarely more than 5 minutes of research/reading and trial and error. For some reason, the *nix side is still in the mind set of high priests in white coats and decades of apprentice ship to learn how to do common tasks. I persevere with *tex because it has been around for nearly 30 years and I'm hoping it will be around for another 30 years, whereas the competition re-invents itself every three years and wants $1,000 each time. UYs /soapbox Yes Mike it is just basic high school maths (or it was when I was in high school {:-), but rather than go through all the trouble of applying for an exemption (find course outline, find certified results, time last studied, etc ), it was easier just to do the four assignments (about 1 hr work each) and sit two exams (2 x 2hr) for about a total of 12 hours work travel to get one years work of work done in maths {:-). Sadly it is about 15 years since I did anything mathematically challenging, so it helps get the brain back into focus even if it is only an electronic engineering course. {:-). -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures Bicycles, Computers, Outdoors, Publishing Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
Ok. I had a bit of a fiddle with the options It appears that: options ip_conntrack ports=21,4559 is incorrect and should be options ip_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559 ...well it works anyway Oh and yes hylafax does use ftp over a non-standard port Thanks heaps Matt for your help!! Regards, Phill O'Flynn -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 4:19 PM To: Phill O'Flynn Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 03:13:23PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[ OK ] Unloading iptables modules:[ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed [FAILED] It looks like this is caused by the options lines in modprobe.conf. Try taking them out. I suspect they're not needed as the necessary port information is covered in the iptables rules, when you use -m state in the line that allows the particular port. At least this should work for ftp over the default ports. Does hylafax really want to do ftp over non-standard ports? Docs on netfilter/iptables are frustratingly thin and hard to get. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:42:35PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Ok. I had a bit of a fiddle with the options It appears that: options ip_conntrack ports=21,4559 is incorrect and should be options ip_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559 ...well it works anyway Excellent! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!
What I want is a nice simple scrolling text screen saver for a simple PC kiosk running X (dare i say marquee?!). The only one vaguely close is Fontglide but I'm getting perl locale errors running that on my minimal installation. Can anyone suggest an alternative? -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 17:30 +1100, Erle Pereira wrote: How about Phosphor... You will make it look like the old 'green' plasma screens :) Well, that gives me locale errors too! In fact, any text screensaver does. Maybe I need to look at why that's a problem. I'd prefer something that just scrolled a single line of text though... -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!
Simon Wong wrote: Well, that gives me locale errors too! In fact, any text screensaver does. Maybe I need to look at why that's a problem. I'd prefer something that just scrolled a single line of text though... yup, I suggest thats where you start. If you are getting locale errors for all, thats where you shoud be looking. Incidentaly, if I might ask, im curious as to which distribution? and locale? check some other programs and see for related errors, maybe a clue lies within there... -Erle -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 17:47 +1100, Erle Pereira wrote: yup, I suggest thats where you start. If you are getting locale errors for all, thats where you shoud be looking. I actually didn't really want to hence my post. Fontglide has multiple lines of the same text scrolling on the screen and sometimes in other non-latin fonts. I just want a nice plain, single line of text Press any key to start... Incidentaly, if I might ask, im curious as to which distribution? and locale? check some other programs and see for related errors, maybe a clue lies within there... It's Ubuntu but I've only done a bare bones installation by a seed file. I'm learning how to do that so I've probably left off something there too! -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html