[SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks

2006-03-13 Thread ashley maher
As some may have heard we had an incredibly successful install fest over
the week-end at the university of Wollongong.

A really fantastic team had a lot of fun helping 57 students set up
their dual boot machines so they were like the lab computers in the Uni.

First to our wonderful sponsors ELX. Sponsors are always difficult to
find. ELX has been wonderful in their support of this event. Many
thanks.

Next to our big brother LUG SLUG. The members of SLUG who selflessly
come down here to help out is always truly amazing. Thanks.

To the University staff involved: Prof. Philip Ogunbona, Daniel
Saffiotti, Michael Milway and David Wilson. Thanks.

Our helpers: Craig, Billy, Shelagh, James, James, Menno, Martin, Jeremy,
Peter, Jude, Tim. Thanks.

The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing
vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but
want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are
looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there.

SCLUG continues to go from strength to strength.

Regards,

Ashley

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Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Fox
On 3/13/06, ashley maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing
 vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but
 want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are
 looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there.

The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free
and should remain free after beta cycle finishes.
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Re: [SLUG] Volunteering for SLUG (Re: My Slug Report, 2005-2006)

2006-03-13 Thread Lindsay Holmwood

Mary Gardiner wrote:


Therefore, some notes from the perspective of someone on activities
only:

 1. I did know the wiki existed.

 2. I had no idea until very recently that the wiki was used in this
fashion and have never checked it. As best I can tell, activities
was never informed of this function of the wiki.


Our bad. We should have done more to facilitate that. In fact, one could 
say that this year the function of activities was duplicated to an 
extent on the wiki.




 3. A number of event discussions, most particularly Software Freedom
Day discussion, are moved *off* activities to slug-chat where
everyone is.


And that shouldn't happen. For SFD this year we should keep everything 
on list.




 4. You did not, it seems, consider your report worth posting on
activities.


Not really, I just forgot about it! :-) It should have been posted there 
though, as some of it is quite appropriate to that list.



I am probably a relatively special case, in that most people interested
enough to help out are also interested enough to be on all the lists and
therefore tend to be in the loop a bit more. But nevertheless it would
be great if the committee and other interested parties could think about
having a single well-advertised forum where interested volunteers can
hang out, be it activities or somewhere else and take care to alert that
group to anything of interest. It would also be nice if there was an
active ongoing promotion of that forum so that people don't feel that
the place to reach all our keen newer community members interested in
volunteering is *slug-chat*, the anything goes list!


Some find it easier to post things anonymously through a browser than 
shoot off an email to a list. The wiki is also handy as a static 
reference for newcomers that's updated when things are decided upon or 
in the works. We set up the wiki because people asked us to.


This year we'll have to deal with merging the two mediums. I think 
realistically activities should remain *the* place to discuss and 
organise stuff.


Something simple as sending a notification to the list everytime someone 
edits the wiki would be sufficient for keeping the two sources in sync.


Pondering,
Lindsay
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Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks

2006-03-13 Thread Chris Deigan
quote(Michael Fox);
The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free
and should remain free after beta cycle finishes.

Or for the people not running linux (which would be the point of the
image), vmware player is free and sane!

 -Chris.

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FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn









Apparently the problem lies in the ip_tables.config



Hylafax seems to work if I do this:

  modprobe ip_conntrack

  modeprobe ip_conntrack
ports=21,4559

  modeprobe ip_nat_ftp ports=21,4559

but this does not persist across reboots.



How do I do this?





Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 

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-Original Message-
From: Richard
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Sent: Monday,
 13 March 2006 2:51
 PM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax



I used this howto when I setup hylafax for a windows laptop.

http://brneurosci.org/linuxsetup24.html

On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:40 +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: 

I am having trouble sending a fax from a windows client (winprint hylafax)and I can't figure out whyI can send a fax from the linux box ok. I can also telnet the server andport and connect successfullyOn the windows machine the client does everything it's supposed to until thedocument hits the print spooler which is where everything seems to stop.Is there a log file to check to see if the linux box is blocking thetransmission?I have tried by disabling the windows firewall but I still get the sameresponseRegards, Phill O'Flynn




 
  
  
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Re: [SLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks

2006-03-13 Thread cmyers
I agree the vmware image is a great idea. (especially for nubs like
me ;)

Shame I missed this install fest, I went to one a while back and they
are terrific!!


On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 20:28 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote:
 quote(Michael Fox);
 The vmware idea is good, especially since vmware server beta is free
 and should remain free after beta cycle finishes.
 
 Or for the people not running linux (which would be the point of the
 image), vmware player is free and sane!
 
  -Chris.
 

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[SLUG] RE: [SCLUG] Post Install Fest Thanks

2006-03-13 Thread Menno Schaaf
It gives you a happy can do attitude helping out at an install fest Of
course, i went home and updated my system, restarted tonight and
promptly realised i have now broken the devfs *coughs*

On 3/13/06, ashley maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As some may have heard we had an incredibly successful install fest over
 the week-end at the university of Wollongong.

 A really fantastic team had a lot of fun helping 57 students set up
 their dual boot machines so they were like the lab computers in the Uni.

 First to our wonderful sponsors ELX. Sponsors are always difficult to
 find. ELX has been wonderful in their support of this event. Many
 thanks.

 Next to our big brother LUG SLUG. The members of SLUG who selflessly
 come down here to help out is always truly amazing. Thanks.

 To the University staff involved: Prof. Philip Ogunbona, Daniel
 Saffiotti, Michael Milway and David Wilson. Thanks.

 Our helpers: Craig, Billy, Shelagh, James, James, Menno, Martin, Jeremy,
 Peter, Jude, Tim. Thanks.

 The Uni is looking at making this an annual event, and distributing
 vmware vm's for the students who don't want to risk their machines but
 want to use machines at home like the lab machines. So things are
 looking very good for getting the FOSS message out there.

 SCLUG continues to go from strength to strength.

 Regards,

 Ashley


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Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:35, Phill O'Flynn wrote:

 Hylafax seems to work if I do this:

 but this does not persist across reboots.

 How do I do this?

Tell your system to do it every time it starts up.

Tell us your distro (name  version) and we can tell you how to do that if you 
don't know.

Cheers,
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FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn

Fedora 4

I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent

Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 

-Original Message-
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Of Bret Comstock Waldow
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 5:16 AM
To: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:35, Phill O'Flynn wrote:

 Hylafax seems to work if I do this:

 but this does not persist across reboots.

 How do I do this?

Tell your system to do it every time it starts up.

Tell us your distro (name  version) and we can tell you how to do that if
you 
don't know.

Cheers,
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Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:14:24AM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 
 Fedora 4
 
 I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent

/etc/sysconfig/iptables-config



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[SLUG] Ubuntu install cd's to give away...

2006-03-13 Thread Peter baker
Hey guys

I have recently installed ubuntu on an old imac. I ordered the discs from ubuntu shipit, but during the wait I dowloaded the iso myself.

I'm hoping installing flash and java is'nt too hard on ubuntu. I'm a newby!

So I have the ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger install and live cd's to give away. for ppc, pc and 64bit pc.

Sydney area, I live in Eastwood.

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[SLUG] LUG Roundup Competition

2006-03-13 Thread Karin Purser

OK Scluggers,

I am running a competition for the LUG Roundup.
Entries close Friday 17th.
I can't write one about sclug.

details are as follows.

Rules and guidelines for the stanza competition.

send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a minimum of 4 stanza poem/ditty/funny 
about your lug.


Entries are now open and the competition will run for 4 weeks. Entries 
close March 17th. The winner will be announced in episode 18 of the LUG 
Roundup which goes to air on 18th March.


Cherio,
Karin

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Re: Java/Flash on ppc was [SLUG] Ubuntu install cd's to give away...

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Lindsay
On 3/14/06, Peter baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 I'm hoping installing flash and java is'nt too hard on ubuntu.  I'm a newby!


I'm running Ubuntu (very happily) on an ibook, unfortunately support
for non-free technologies on non-x86 platforms can be a bit of a pain
sometimes. I think you'll find that:

- Java is ok (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC)
- Flash is not ok

I don't bother with either (Java is fine when it's not in my browser,
Flash on the other hand is evil! Evil I tells ya!), but I can
appreciate that, particularly with browser plugins, this can be a
pretty sore point.

In both cases there are open source versions that may or may not do
what you want (I suspect that more progress has been made on the Java
front then on the flash front, however I don't have any recent
experience to back that up). The ubuntu forums would probably be a
good place to find peoples experience with this stuff.

I could say just avoid websites that use flash (this can be a good
idea whether you have a browser plugin or not :), however if you're
new to linux and looking for the closest experience to what you may be
used to then perhaps running it on an intel machine (if possible)
might be an easier way to start.

(Otherwise just take pleasure in cursing those who build sites you
can't access, indignation builds character, I didn't want to look at
your stupid site anyway you bastard)

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[SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates

2006-03-13 Thread James Gray
Some may have seen the latest Ubuntu Security Notice (USN-263-1) which 
requires a new kernel.  Now like many, I like my systems to run as slick as 
possible and I've manually installed a 686 kernel on my lappy and uninstalled 
every other linux-image* package.

This is a problem.  Because the new kernel is a new package (not just a 
version increment) it wont be installed with an apt-get upgrade or even and 
apt-get dist-upgrade.  This problem burnt me when I went from Hoary-Breezy 
on my AMD64 machine too; the underlying system was upgraded but not the 
kernel.  All manner of freaky juju then occurred until I manually grabbed 
Breezy's kernel, then balance was restored to the force. ;)

There is an EASY solution  though!  There are a number of meta-packages that 
*always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture:
linux-image-386
linux-image-686
... etc

Here's (a subset) of what apt has to say about the linux-image-686 package:
Package: linux-image-686
Source: linux-meta
Version: 2.6.12.16
Depends: linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
Description: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
 This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available
 for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.

As these are updated to depend on the new kernel, when a new kernel is 
released you get it by virtue of the meta package's dependence on it.  See 
how it works?

Just thought with the looming release of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) and the 
recent security update, I'd share my (limited) insights to the wonderful 
world of apt on Ubuntu :)  (BTW - I'm pretty sure Debian does things the same 
way, just double check the package names).

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates

2006-03-13 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gray

 There is an EASY solution  though!  There are a number of meta-packages that 
 *always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture:
 linux-image-386
 linux-image-686
 ... etc

I'd recommend the linux-686 set too, which depend on both the kernel image
and the restricted modules.

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[SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Terry Collins
Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
working with equal signs all lined up.

TIA





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Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread James Ring
Hey Terry,

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 13:43, Terry Collins wrote:
 Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
 sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

 Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
 working with equal signs all lined up.

How about

\begin{eqnarray}
x  =  \sqrt{175}-17^2 \\
   =  .. whatever .. \\
% and so on
\end{eqnarray}

If you don't want your equations numbered, you can use 

\begin{eqnarray*}
...
\end{eqnarray*}

 TIA


Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Ian Wienand
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:43:58PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
 Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
 sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

I'd do it something like

\begin{eqnarray*}

a   =  \sqrt{175} - 17^2 \\
=  13.22 - 289 \\
=  -275.78. \\

\end{eqnarray*}


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Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Lake

Terry Collins wrote:

Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
working with equal signs all lined up.


Examples:

\begin{eqnarray}
\sqrt{175} - 17^2  =  13.228 - 289 \\
   =  -275.772
\end{eqnarray}

\begin{eqnarray}
  a  =  b + c \\
  x  =  y - z
\end{eqnarray}

oops the above went to slug-chat too by mistake.

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[SLUG] Re: Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:43:58PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
 Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
 sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

$\sqrt{175}-17^2$

(From memory, anyway)

 Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
 working with equal signs all lined up.

\begin{tabular}{rcl}
x  =  1
y  =  2 - x
   =  2 - 1
   =  1
\end{tabular}

(Again, from memory)

The LaTeX docs are usually pretty good at describing math stuff, BTW.  I
recommend the essential guide for starting out.

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RE: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates

2006-03-13 Thread Carlo Sogono
I belive I've encountered this before and discovered that packages that
refuse to be installed using apt-get can be installed using aptitude.
Might want to give that a try first.

Cheers,
Carlo


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James Gray
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:59 AM
To: SLUG
Subject: [SLUG] Ubuntu Kernel Updates

Some may have seen the latest Ubuntu Security Notice (USN-263-1) which
requires a new kernel.  Now like many, I like my systems to run as slick
as possible and I've manually installed a 686 kernel on my lappy and
uninstalled every other linux-image* package.

This is a problem.  Because the new kernel is a new package (not just a
version increment) it wont be installed with an apt-get upgrade or
even and apt-get dist-upgrade.  This problem burnt me when I went from
Hoary-Breezy on my AMD64 machine too; the underlying system was
upgraded but not the kernel.  All manner of freaky juju then occurred
until I manually grabbed Breezy's kernel, then balance was restored to
the force. ;)

There is an EASY solution  though!  There are a number of meta-packages
that
*always* depend on the latest kernel for a given architecture:
linux-image-386
linux-image-686
... etc

Here's (a subset) of what apt has to say about the linux-image-686
package:
Package: linux-image-686
Source: linux-meta
Version: 2.6.12.16
Depends: linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
Description: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
 This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available
for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.

As these are updated to depend on the new kernel, when a new kernel is
released you get it by virtue of the meta package's dependence on it.
See how it works?

Just thought with the looming release of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) and
the recent security update, I'd share my (limited) insights to the
wonderful world of apt on Ubuntu :)  (BTW - I'm pretty sure Debian does
things the same way, just double check the package names).

Cheers,

James
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Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Lake

Terry Collins wrote:

Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?

Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
working with equal signs all lined up.


Given what you are trying appears to be problems for High School maths probs you 
might be interested also in the following packages on CTAN:


http://www.ctan.org/info?id=exam
Provides a class exam, which eases production of exams, even
by a LaTeX novice.  Simple commands are provided to:
create questions, parts of questions, subparts of parts, and
subsubparts of subparts, all with optional point values;
create a grading table, indexed either by question number
(listing each question and the total possible points for that
question) or by page number (listing each page with points and the
total possible points for that page).

http://www.ctan.org/info?id=probsoln
The package probsoln.sty is designed for lecturers who have to
generate new problem sheets for their students on a regular basis
(e.g. yearly) by randomly selecting a specified number of problems
defined in another file.

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FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn

I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to put
in it.

I tried 
...
/etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like:
options   ip_conntrackports=21,4559
options   ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 ..

as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the
file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from the
hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot

Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 

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From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 9:04 AM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:14:24AM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 
 Fedora 4
 
 I am not sure where and how to make changes to make the settings permanent

/etc/sysconfig/iptables-config



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Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:04:46PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 
 I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to put
 in it.

The first comments in that file are a little short, but 
they summarise what's required pretty well:

# Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers)
#   Default: -none-
# Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp ip_nat_irc'), 
which
# are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the 
helpers are
# stored in /etc/modprobe.conf.
IPTABLES_MODULES=

So in your case that var would be

IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack ip_nat_ftp

 
 I tried 
 ...
 /etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like:
 options   ip_conntrackports=21,4559
 options   ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 ..

Yeah I dunno about /etc/modprobe.conf.local; I'd just put those
lines in /etc/modprobe.conf

 as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the
 file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from the
 hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot

You should be able to do

/sbin/service iptables restart

to get it working after the previous config changes,
but by all means do a reboot to satisfy yourself
that it still works after a reboot.


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FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn

Ok did that but when I execute /sbin/service iptables restart I got errors
Initially
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
Applying iptables firewall rules:  [  OK  ]
Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED]
But after that I keep getting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed
   [FAILED]


Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 2:17 PM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:04:46PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 
 I have had a look at /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config but not sure what to
put
 in it.

The first comments in that file are a little short, but 
they summarise what's required pretty well:

# Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers)
#   Default: -none-
# Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp
ip_nat_irc'), which
# are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the
helpers are
# stored in /etc/modprobe.conf.
IPTABLES_MODULES=

So in your case that var would be

IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack ip_nat_ftp

 
 I tried 
 ...
 /etc/modprobe.conf.local and add options lines like:
 options   ip_conntrackports=21,4559
 options   ip_nat_ftpports=21,4559 ..

Yeah I dunno about /etc/modprobe.conf.local; I'd just put those
lines in /etc/modprobe.conf

 as suggested by Keith but I only had modprobe.conf. So after editing the
 file and rebooting the firewall was still blocking the transmission from
the
 hylafax client. Does this file get processed on boot

You should be able to do

/sbin/service iptables restart

to get it working after the previous config changes,
but by all means do a reboot to satisfy yourself
that it still works after a reboot.


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Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
   Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED]

You've mispelled ip_conntrack -- there are two n's.




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FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn
DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed
   [FAILED]


Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 2:43 PM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
   Loading additional iptables modules: ip_contrack ip_nat_ftp[FAILED]

You've mispelled ip_conntrack -- there are two n's.





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Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
   Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
   Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
   Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
   Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed
[FAILED]

I guess you have something funky on line 36 of /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

It also looks like you have iptables save and restore on stop/start.

Mine doesn't; I explicitly maintain /etc/sysconfig/iptables under
version control.

Whether it saves/restores or not seems to be another option in
/etc/sysconfig/iptables-config.  I suggest you set

IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_STOP=no
IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART=no

as well.

You can send your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file to me privately
if you want and I'll give it a butchers.


Matt




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FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn
I have sent those files via your private email address as requested.

I suppose an alternative would be to include the commands in a script file
to be automatically run after the firewall is loaded???

Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 3:03 PM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
   Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
   Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
   Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
   Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed
[FAILED]

I guess you have something funky on line 36 of /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

It also looks like you have iptables save and restore on stop/start.

Mine doesn't; I explicitly maintain /etc/sysconfig/iptables under
version control.

Whether it saves/restores or not seems to be another option in
/etc/sysconfig/iptables-config.  I suggest you set

IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_STOP=no
IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART=no

as well.

You can send your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file to me privately
if you want and I'll give it a butchers.


Matt





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Re: [SLUG] Latex, layout of maths answer

2006-03-13 Thread Terry Collins
Terry Collins wrote:
 Okay, how do you layout an answer for something as simple as
 sqrt(175)-17**2 in latex?
 
 Looking for a/the method of doing the multiple lines showing your
 working with equal signs all lined up.
 
 TIA

Thanks folks.

The use of the  =  isn't given anywhere (Lamport, or Gossens, et al.)
and that seems to be the key.

In the answer from the ether mode that occurs just after you send a
questions to Slug, I ended up working out that this worked okay;

\begin{tabbing}
$ something $ \=
$ \something $ \\
$ \something $ \\
$ \something $ \\
\end{tabbing}

Thanks for the actual layout of the \eqnarray. That will save a bit of
hair pulling.

soapbox The problem with a lot of Linux application and stuff like
Latex is that documentation is woefully bad. I've spent 20 years winging
it in user support working out how to do similar and more complex stuff
in various MS OS based applications and the answer was rarely more than
5 minutes of research/reading and trial and error. For some reason, the
*nix side is still in the mind set of high priests in white coats and
decades of apprentice ship to learn how to do common tasks.

I persevere with *tex because it has been around for nearly 30 years and
I'm hoping it will be around for another 30 years, whereas the
competition re-invents itself every three years and wants $1,000 each
time. UYs /soapbox


Yes Mike it is just basic high school maths (or it was when I was in
high school {:-), but rather than go through all the trouble of applying
for an exemption (find course outline, find certified results, time last
studied, etc ), it was easier just to do the four assignments (about  1
hr work each) and sit two exams (2 x 2hr) for about a total of 12 hours
work  travel to get one years work of work done in maths {:-).  Sadly
it is about 15 years since I did anything mathematically challenging, so
it helps get the brain back into focus even if  it is only an electronic
engineering course. {:-).


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FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Phill O'Flynn
Ok. I had a bit of a fiddle with the options

It appears that:
options ip_conntrack ports=21,4559 
is incorrect and should be
options ip_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559
...well it works anyway

Oh and yes hylafax does use ftp over a non-standard port

Thanks heaps Matt for your help!!


Regards, 
Phill O'Flynn 


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 4:19 PM
To: Phill O'Flynn
Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 03:13:23PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:50:41PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
  DOH!!! I didn't see that but I am still getting
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /sbin/service iptables restart
  Flushing firewall rules:   [  OK  ]
  Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter[  OK  ]
  Unloading iptables modules:[  OK  ]
  Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 36 failed
 [FAILED]

It looks like this is caused by the options lines in modprobe.conf.
Try taking them out. I suspect they're not needed as the necessary
port information is covered in the iptables rules, when you use 
-m state in the line that allows the particular port.  At least
this should work for ftp over the default ports.  Does hylafax
really want to do ftp over non-standard ports?

Docs on netfilter/iptables are frustratingly thin and hard to get.


Matt

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Re: FW: FW: [SLUG] hylafax

2006-03-13 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:42:35PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 Ok. I had a bit of a fiddle with the options
 
 It appears that:
   options ip_conntrack ports=21,4559 
 is incorrect and should be
   options ip_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559
 ...well it works anyway

Excellent!


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[SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!

2006-03-13 Thread Simon Wong
What I want is a nice simple scrolling text screen saver for a simple PC
kiosk running X (dare i say marquee?!).

The only one vaguely close is Fontglide but I'm getting perl locale
errors running that on my minimal installation.

Can anyone suggest an alternative?


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Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!

2006-03-13 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 17:30 +1100, Erle Pereira wrote:
 How about Phosphor... You will make it look like the old 'green'
 plasma screens :)

Well, that gives me locale errors too!  In fact, any text screensaver
does.

Maybe I need to look at why that's a problem.  I'd prefer something that
just scrolled a single line of text though...



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Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!

2006-03-13 Thread Erle Pereira
Simon Wong wrote:

Well, that gives me locale errors too!  In fact, any text screensaver
does.

Maybe I need to look at why that's a problem.  I'd prefer something that
just scrolled a single line of text though...


yup, I suggest thats where you start.  If you are getting locale errors
for all, thats where you shoud be looking.

Incidentaly, if I might ask, im curious as to which distribution? and
locale? check some other programs and see for related errors, maybe a
clue lies within there...

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Re: [SLUG] Xscreensaver too advanced!

2006-03-13 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 17:47 +1100, Erle Pereira wrote:
 yup, I suggest thats where you start.  If you are getting locale errors
 for all, thats where you shoud be looking.

I actually didn't really want to hence my post.  Fontglide has multiple
lines of the same text scrolling on the screen and sometimes in other
non-latin fonts.

I just want a nice plain, single line of text Press any key to
start...

 Incidentaly, if I might ask, im curious as to which distribution? and
 locale? check some other programs and see for related errors, maybe a
 clue lies within there...

It's Ubuntu but I've only done a bare bones installation by a seed file.

I'm learning how to do that so I've probably left off something there
too!

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