Re: [SLUG] ATO online
Its a conspiracy I tell you... On 2/27/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they reckon that they have already got 90% online lodgement and are targeting 95%. perhaps they are tacitly admitting that they are not interested in the remaining 5% that represent Linux desktops. Sales WBrown wrote: I read recently that Vista is having compatibility issues for online lodgement of electronic forms with ATO see http://www.webappexpo.com.au/content/view/56/45/ Unfortunately ATO lists only Macintosh and Windows as possible operating systems for online use: http://www.ato.gov.au/onlineservices/content.asp?doc=/content/36220.htm Have any sluggers overcome this problem with linux? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wenwe
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are you blaming the tool? Because, me as a dumb user, is confronted by such archaic and meaningless twaddle as: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) or even more enlightening dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Which immediately sets me off on the path that resolves the issue ... Perhaps read the rest of the output, particularly closer to the place where the error occurred: processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.80.3-0ubuntu1~edgy1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/config/khotnewstuffrc', which is also in package kde4libs-data - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ I guess there's part of me that's always resented it... to be an actor, you have to have someone else say yes to you. - Edward Norton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:34:26PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Gavin Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just had a friend ask me whether there's anything in the free software world for academic research / writing i.e. tracking bibliographic info, citations, quotes etc., and then collating them into a written product. Any cluesticks? What do you real academics out there use (without wanting to start an editor and/or word processor war!). There are a number of tools available to aid research. OpenOffice.org has for a long time had functionality to manage sources and bibliographic entries. Two standalone apps which come to mind are Tomboy[1] and BasKet[2]. For Web-based research, it might make sense to manage sources within the Web browser itself. There are several extensions for Firefox to do this[3], including Zotero[4], Research Buddy[5], and Diigo[6]. [1] http://www.gnome.org/projects/tomboy/ [2] http://basket.kde.org/ [3] https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?q=researchtype=Eapp=firefox [4] http://www.zotero.org/ [5] http://researchbuddy.mozdev.org/ [6] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2792/ Thanks a lot to all who replied - I've got a swag of things to go away and try out now. Should be fun! Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SyPy Social Meetup Thursday 1 March 2007
This will be the third social gathering of Sydney Python Users Group for 2007 and any individuals interested in discussing Python, Web, Ruby, Perl etc. Laptops, code review, show and tell etc allowed and encouraged. We meet in the ground floor area next to P.J. O'Briens Pub internal entrance in the Grace Hotel, Cnr York and King Street Sydney, New South Wales 2000 Please register your attendance at http://upcoming.org/event/155300 or reply to this email. Thanks Mark -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple sudoers question
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:00:26AM -0800, Mark A. Bell wrote: Hello, I'm running Ubuntu Edgy and I want to give myself permission to halt my system without using sudo and a password. I've added the following to /etc/sudoers using visudo: marklocalhost = NOPASSWD: /sbin/halt But still I get a message that I 'need to be root'. Can someone help? Also, do changes to /etc/sudoers become effective immediately, or do I need to restart something to make my system recognize them? should happen the minute you save the file. you can run sudo -l to list all the commands and who they run as is your machine called localhost ? Thanks! - mark http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Commercial Debian support
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:12:26PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: Hi, One of the questions during the latest distro comparision discussion was about commercial support. My answer as the Debian supporter was that I know there is but I can't give a name off the top of my head. Today I learned a few things: 1. HP just repported that it made 25 millions US$ from support for Debian (I wasn't aware that they do that). 2. HP supports also RedHat and Novelle's Suse, in addition to Debian 3. There is a consultants page on Debian's web site. The corresponding links are given below: 1. http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3661481 http//www.hp.com/go/debian 2. http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/cache/390161-0-0-225-121.html 3. http://www.au.debian.org/consultants/#Australia Hope you find this useful. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
Could you provide a link to the source/s that informed you of this? On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have just found a reason why the default installation often makes swap = 2xRAM. It's to do with laptops mainly. When they hibernate they apparently roll the memory image out to the swap space, hence the recommendation about the swap space size. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
Right. So you're saying that desktop installers set swap to be 2x RAM by default, just in case the user decides to download suspend2, which didn't exist at the time the installer was written and isn't included in the distro, and *then* chooses to suspend to swap? I don't follow your argument. Why would an installer have default settings based on optional behaviour of a program that isn't even included in the distro and requires recompiling the kernel to use? On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/1716222 If you select Swap Writer, suspend2 will write all data to the swap space, so make sure your swap is at least twice the amount of your RAM in size. You can also select File Writer and save the suspend data on a file on the hard disk instead, but I prefer the swap method since it's easier to set up. Compile, install your kernel, and reboot to it. Zhasper wrote: Could you provide a link to the source/s that informed you of this? On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have just found a reason why the default installation often makes swap = 2xRAM. It's to do with laptops mainly. When they hibernate they apparently roll the memory image out to the swap space, hence the recommendation about the swap space size. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 10:06 +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/1716222 If you select Swap Writer, suspend2 will write all data to the swap space, so make sure your swap is at least twice the amount of your RAM in size. You can also select File Writer and save the suspend data on a file on the hard disk instead, but I prefer the swap method since it's easier to set up. Compile, install your kernel, and reboot to it. In earlier versions, swsusp required swap to be physical RAM + video RAM. And the recommendation was to make it a bit bigger, er, Just In Case. The suspend2 HOWTO[1] says requirements for using the swapwriter are spare swap = physical RAM. That's spare swap. The kernel will do its best to free up buffers and swap pages back in to make room for the swapwriter if it needs to. But yeah, sure, double your RAM to be on the safe side. I didn't know swsusp had a filewriter method these days. If I were setting it up right now I'd probably prefer going that way - relying on having enough free swap to suspend sounds kind of fragile. [1] - http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.2 Cheers, -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zhasper wrote: Right. So you're saying that desktop installers set swap to be 2x RAM by default, just in case the user decides to download suspend2, which didn't exist at the time the installer was written and isn't included in the distro, and *then* chooses to suspend to swap? I don't follow your argument. Why would an installer have default settings based on optional behaviour of a program that isn't even included in the distro and requires recompiling the kernel to use? Well, I have a default installation of FC6 on my laptop and that hibernates by rolling out to swap. Since the default installation has no idea what the capabilities are of the target hardware, it strikes me as being a reasonable assumption to configure swap thus. That's a much better reason for thinking that than the article you mentioned is :) Thanks! On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/1716222 If you select Swap Writer, suspend2 will write all data to the swap space, so make sure your swap is at least twice the amount of your RAM in size. You can also select File Writer and save the suspend data on a file on the hard disk instead, but I prefer the swap method since it's easier to set up. Compile, install your kernel, and reboot to it. Zhasper wrote: Could you provide a link to the source/s that informed you of this? On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have just found a reason why the default installation often makes swap = 2xRAM. It's to do with laptops mainly. When they hibernate they apparently roll the memory image out to the swap space, hence the recommendation about the swap space size. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: ATO online
And since after JUly 1 self funded retirees etc over 60 will get their pensions tax-free, that probably eliminates a few more % due to many above that age not having net access and/or being computer illiterate. Anyway, seems to me that most of the 90% would be online lodgements by Tax Agents. Bill Since they reckon that they have already got 90% online lodgement and are targeting 95%. perhaps they are tacitly admitting that they are not interested in the remaining 5% that represent Linux desktops. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
quote who=Howard Lowndes I think I have just found a reason why the default installation often makes swap = 2xRAM. It's to do with laptops mainly. When they hibernate they apparently roll the memory image out to the swap space, hence the recommendation about the swap space size. No, the 2*RAM thing comes from the distant past, back when the 2.2 and 2.4 VMs were lame. You don't need 2*RAM for laptop hibernate -- all the laptop needs is system (and sometimes video) memory written to disk, and with the current hibernate code, it's gzipped on the way in. (Your disk is slower than your CPU, so compressing to disk makes a *lot* of sense.) So, systems that still do 2*RAM by default do not do it for this reason (consider also that RHEL, not exactly primarily used with laptops, still leads the charge for 2*RAM). - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ Thanks for watching, I'm Katie Couric... and I'm not just for breakfast anymore. - Katie Couric on Letterman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ATO online
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:55:14 +1100 bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since after JUly 1 self funded retirees etc over 60 will get their pensions tax-free, that probably eliminates a few more % due to many above that age not having net access and/or being computer illiterate. Watch it mate :-) Anyway, seems to me that most of the 90% would be online lodgements by Tax Agents. Bill Since they reckon that they have already got 90% online lodgement and are targeting 95%. perhaps they are tacitly admitting that they are not interested in the remaining 5% that represent Linux desktops. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Russell Davie wrote: snip Kile is a more user-friendly KDE-based TeX/LaTeX editor: http://kile.sourceforge.net/ KBibTeX specifically targets the bibliography features of LaTeX: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27421 More user friendly? How so if Kile requires the user to learn LaTeX markup language before they can produce a document? LyX enables a user to produce a document without having to learn LaTeX. This is avoids the significant and extra LaTeX learning curve. LaTeX markup language is really easy to use, but when it comes to changing the default layout, it gets complicated. LaTeX markup is far superior when you have repetitive patterns that you need to use. Personally I use latex-suite in vim than the GUI based Kile. And VIM has a far steeper learning curve than LaTeX. But like learning to Touch Type, the learning curve of Vim is well worth it. If you have a aptitude for programming then definitely learn LaTeX. Here is a link to a really good LaTeX FAQ that teaches you to do stuff that will be hard to find otherwise... http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html -- Joseph Goncalves mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 66D6 71CF 87F9 6B17 6824 C692 9FF0 1DAF 7DAE E661 -- It is said that the Fremen has no conscience, having lost it in a burning desire for revenge. This is foolish. Only the rawest primitive and the sociopath have no conscience. The Fremen possesses a highly evolved worldview centered on the welfare of his people. His sense of belonging to the community is almost stronger than his sense of self. It is only to outsiders that these desert dwellers seem brutish . . . just as outsiders appear to them. -- PARDOT KYNES, The People of Arrakis pgpvSuLh1GEAg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:11:57 +1100 Joseph Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Russell Davie wrote: snip Kile is a more user-friendly KDE-based TeX/LaTeX editor: http://kile.sourceforge.net/ KBibTeX specifically targets the bibliography features of LaTeX: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27421 More user friendly? How so if Kile requires the user to learn LaTeX markup language before they can produce a document? LyX enables a user to produce a document without having to learn LaTeX. This is avoids the significant and extra LaTeX learning curve. LaTeX markup language is really easy to use, but when it comes to changing the default layout, it gets complicated. LaTeX markup is far superior when you have repetitive patterns that you need to use. Personally I use latex-suite in vim than the GUI based Kile. And VIM has a far steeper learning curve than LaTeX. But like learning to Touch Type, the learning curve of Vim is well worth it. This is true, but in my experience it is not always on the point. Some people are simply put off by having the markup visible on screen. I don't know why this is so, but I have seen it in experienced as well as inexperienced users. There is something about having a footnote in the middle of a paragraph that freaks them out. Cheers, Alan If you have a aptitude for programming then definitely learn LaTeX. Here is a link to a really good LaTeX FAQ that teaches you to do stuff that will be hard to find otherwise... http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html -- Joseph Goncalves mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 66D6 71CF 87F9 6B17 6824 C692 9FF0 1DAF 7DAE E661 -- It is said that the Fremen has no conscience, having lost it in a burning desire for revenge. This is foolish. Only the rawest primitive and the sociopath have no conscience. The Fremen possesses a highly evolved worldview centered on the welfare of his people. His sense of belonging to the community is almost stronger than his sense of self. It is only to outsiders that these desert dwellers seem brutish . . . just as outsiders appear to them. -- PARDOT KYNES, The People of Arrakis -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OKI 5540
Hi, I'm looking at replacing our venerable HP 3330 MFP (printer/scanner/fax/copier) a mid-range model, more up to date, with a duplexing kit and colour. Although I've always bought HP printers in the past, HP have a Colour LaserJet 2800 which at $1600 or so looks a bit flimsy, doesn't have duplexing, and not large enough paper trays or duty cycle, and the 4730x which at $10,000 is too big and somewhat overkill, and nothing in between. The printer I've been looking at is the OKI C5540 MFP which is around $3,000. Has anyone used this or can recommend an alternative colour MFP with similar specs that runs OK on Linux? -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
Jeff Waugh wrote: No, the 2*RAM thing comes from the distant past, back when the 2.2 and 2.4 VMs were lame. You don't need 2*RAM for laptop hibernate -- all the laptop needs is system (and sometimes video) memory written to disk, and with the current hibernate code, it's gzipped on the way in. (Your disk is slower than your CPU, so compressing to disk makes a *lot* of sense.) So, systems that still do 2*RAM by default do not do it for this reason (consider also that RHEL, not exactly primarily used with laptops, still leads the charge for 2*RAM). That's a bit unfair, FC6's installer suggested swap = RAM when I installed it on a Intel Mac Mini with 2GB of RAM. (I used FC6 since it 'just works' in the Mac Mini's EFI environment). I doubled it manually simply because I remembered how painful the 2.2--2.4 move was when the swap requirement became double the amount of RAM. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ATO online
OK... so why CAN'T the ATO get their act together and be platform independent? is there a real reason or just the usual stuff-you attitude that some parts of the tax office adopt? What is the technical reason? does anyone know? On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 11:21 +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:55:14 +1100 bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since after JUly 1 self funded retirees etc over 60 will get their pensions tax-free, that probably eliminates a few more % due to many above that age not having net access and/or being computer illiterate. Watch it mate :-) Anyway, seems to me that most of the 90% would be online lodgements by Tax Agents. Bill Since they reckon that they have already got 90% online lodgement and are targeting 95%. perhaps they are tacitly admitting that they are not interested in the remaining 5% that represent Linux desktops. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:11:57 +1100 Joseph Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Russell Davie wrote: snip Kile is a more user-friendly KDE-based TeX/LaTeX editor: http://kile.sourceforge.net/ KBibTeX specifically targets the bibliography features of LaTeX: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27421 More user friendly? How so if Kile requires the user to learn LaTeX markup language before they can produce a document? LyX enables a user to produce a document without having to learn LaTeX. This is avoids the significant and extra LaTeX learning curve. LaTeX markup language is really easy to use, but when it comes to changing the default layout, it gets complicated. LaTeX markup is far superior when you have repetitive patterns that you need to use. Personally I use latex-suite in vim than the GUI based Kile. And VIM has a far steeper learning curve than LaTeX. But like learning to Touch Type, the learning curve of Vim is well worth it. This is true, but in my experience it is not always on the point. Some people are simply put off by having the markup visible on screen. I don't know why this is so, but I have seen it in experienced as well as inexperienced users. There is something about having a footnote in the middle of a paragraph that freaks them out. True... LaTeX editing is a paradigm shift that may be too great for some people. Fair enough. This is where LyX is great alternative because it is a WYSIWYG editor that works with a simple but effective text file format that is human editable. Cheers, Alan If you have a aptitude for programming then definitely learn LaTeX. Here is a link to a really good LaTeX FAQ that teaches you to do stuff that will be hard to find otherwise... http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html -- Joseph Goncalves mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 66D6 71CF 87F9 6B17 6824 C692 9FF0 1DAF 7DAE E661 -- It is said that the Fremen has no conscience, having lost it in a burning desire for revenge. This is foolish. Only the rawest primitive and the sociopath have no conscience. The Fremen possesses a highly evolved worldview centered on the welfare of his people. His sense of belonging to the community is almost stronger than his sense of self. It is only to outsiders that these desert dwellers seem brutish . . . just as outsiders appear to them. -- PARDOT KYNES, The People of Arrakis -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- Joseph Goncalves mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 66D6 71CF 87F9 6B17 6824 C692 9FF0 1DAF 7DAE E661 -- Tonight's special, blackened leftovers pgpu34PbkCVNu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ATO online
On 2/28/2007, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My own guess is that it's probably more of a distro thing. Should they support Debian, or Fedora, or Ubuntu, or Slackware, or Gentoo, or Mandriva, or some minority distro, and why not my own preference? Should they package to rpm, or apt, or tgz? Eh? What's wrong with HTML? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What about /boot [was] Swap = 2xRAM
On 28/02/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Going slightly OT, but is the /boot partition necessary any longer. IIRC, this is bios-dependent. Newer bioses don't have this limitation. cf http://www.enterprisedt.com/publications/dual_boot.html#1024, http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html (yes, first time I've seen a geocities page with useful information too - I didn't even know they were still running!), and best of all - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2, which has a very detailed history of the problem/s. Wasn't that a method of getting around the boot must be in the first 1023 cyl limit? Yes, it was. flame bait What are ppls ideas about partitioning? /home ?? /usr/local ?? /var/mail ?? ?? /flame bait As always, depends on what you're using the machine for, how you're going to be setting it up, etc. There is no One True Partitioning Scheme. There is, of course, One True Editor, and that is vim. -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What about /boot [was] Swap = 2xRAM
Howard Lowndes wrote: Going slightly OT, but is the /boot partition necessary any longer. Wasn't that a method of getting around the boot must be in the first 1023 cyl limit? It's not necessary, since the limit doesn't exist on modern machines. There's no reason for it to be the default in an installer beyond conservatism (which is no bad attitude to hold, as people get annoyed when their box won't boot). It's a very useful option to have as it allows boot limits on other architectures to be overcome too. I do like Linux's use of a partition as opposed to Microsoft's use of immovable 'system' files. It makes backup and restore of a system much simpler. The One True Partitioning scheme is / :-) Seriously, for a single-spindle machine I wouldn't stuff about with partitioning unless you want to encrypt your home directory with dm_crypt. Where partitioning does win is in allowing you to share the I/O load in a deterministic way across multiple spindles. So an Apache server can always have a disk head over the end of /var/log/httpd/access_log; or a transaction database can achieve more consistency of response time by preventing data access from causing index lookups to be queued. But these are Big Iron considerations, and not useful for the average user or server (where installing more RAM for more caching would get more performance than adding spindles). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What about /boot [was] Swap = 2xRAM
On 28/02/07, Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One True Partitioning scheme is / :-) Seriously, for a single-spindle machine I wouldn't stuff about with partitioning unless you want to encrypt your home directory with dm_crypt. I think there's a bit more utility than that in at least making /home it's own partition: * (L)Users can't fill up the entire disk, only /home. * Conversely, overly-verbose daemons logging through syslog/their own log files to /var/log aren't going to unexpectedly prevent Grandma from saving that 150Mb image she's been working on in Gimp * Backup/restore/reinstall is easy - wipe the / partition, but leave /home untouched. Viola, all user files and preferences are kept, while the system is upgraded or restored. -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OKI 5540
Hi Del, I have used other OKI's for customers and no probs, try linuxprinting.org for more info. and additional ppd files. Cheers Bud. On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 12:02 +1100, Del wrote: Hi, I'm looking at replacing our venerable HP 3330 MFP (printer/scanner/fax/copier) a mid-range model, more up to date, with a duplexing kit and colour. Although I've always bought HP printers in the past, HP have a Colour LaserJet 2800 which at $1600 or so looks a bit flimsy, doesn't have duplexing, and not large enough paper trays or duty cycle, and the 4730x which at $10,000 is too big and somewhat overkill, and nothing in between. The printer I've been looking at is the OKI C5540 MFP which is around $3,000. Has anyone used this or can recommend an alternative colour MFP with similar specs that runs OK on Linux? -- Del -- Best Regards The Team at ABD Computers ABD Computer Installations Get A Better Deal ! Phone: 0408 867 967 Web: http://www.abdcomputers.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABD Computer Installations E-mail and E-mail Server is Virus and Spyware Free. We request recipients of this E-mail to place us in the white-list of friendly E-mailers. -This privilege was achieved because we use Linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Swap = 2xRAM
quote who=Glen Turner (consider also that RHEL, not exactly primarily used with laptops, still leads the charge for 2*RAM). That's a bit unfair, FC6's installer suggested swap = RAM when I installed it on a Intel Mac Mini with 2GB of RAM. Fedora != RHEL (Fedora is way cooler because it has a community, and as we all know, the biggest community always wins). - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ ... *bounce*bounce*bounce* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ATO online
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 13:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK... so why CAN'T the ATO get their act together and be platform independent? is there a real reason or just the usual stuff-you attitude that some parts of the tax office adopt? What is the technical reason? does anyone know? On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 11:21 +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:55:14 +1100 bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since after JUly 1 self funded retirees etc over 60 will get their pensions tax-free, that probably eliminates a few more % due to many above that age not having net access and/or being computer illiterate. Watch it mate :-) Anyway, seems to me that most of the 90% would be online lodgements by Tax Agents. One needs only to look at what a nice job the census folk did (every browser I tried worked perfectly) to be able to declare that: a) FYJ (very rude, I'll not translate) b) Gross incompetent IT staff implementing online tax James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ATO online
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One needs only to look at what a nice job the census folk did (every browser I tried worked perfectly) to be able to declare that: To be fair, collecting a census is quite a bit simpler than collecting a tax return. The sheer size of the Taxpack compared to the size of the census form should make that obvious. What you've got is a web developer who doesn't know how to develop platform independently quoting n times the development time where n is the number of browser/platform combinations to be supported. As opposed to developing in a platform-independent way and testing with a smaller number of platforms (with the inevitable tweaks required to make it work in IE). Most web developers still think this way. They shouldn't be allowed to call themselves web developers but IE developers. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Call me a cynic, but for me much more stable than the last version of Windows is not exactly a ringing endorsement. - James Riden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Query re Firefox
Thank you very much for your replies, Sonia. I'm using Fedora, rather than Ubuntu. Following ApplicationsPreferencesMore Preferences, I get to Preferred Applications. When I click on it, I get a window with a number of tabs, one of which is called Web Browser. On that tab, I'm able to select my default web browser. I've got the Custom Web Browser button highlighted and a box into which I'm to put a command. The command which appears is the full path to the Firefox executable. I've tested that command from the command line and it does open Firefox. Unlike what I understand to be your situation, however, there is no option available on that tab relating to how links are to be opened. It's occurred to me since posting my original query that maybe there's something that's changed without my knowing it in the Firefox configuration editor and that that's what's caused me to lose the automatic opening of links. In the absence of any other suggestions, maybe I should have a look at that (though there are an awful lot of entries in it, aren't there!). Thanks again, Leslie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Query re Firefox
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 16:54 +1100, Leslie Katz wrote: On that tab, I'm able to select my default web browser. I've got the Custom Web Browser button highlighted and a box into which I'm to put a command. The command which appears is the full path to the Firefox executable. I've tested that command from the command line and it does open Firefox. Unlike what I understand to be your situation, however, there is no option available on that tab relating to how links are to be opened. If the box has the path to firefox and absolutely nothing else, then that's your problem. When you click a link, evolution is running the command /usr/bin/firefox, without ever having a chance to pass in the URL to actually open. What you want to do is change that command to something like /usr/bin/firefox %s. That way, when you click a link, evolution will substitute the %s for the URL to be opened before running the command. So, when you click on http://google.com/ evolution will run /usr/bin/firefox http://google.com/;. Of course, you can run absolutely any command you want there. Just substitute %s where the URL to open is supposed to go. Good luck, -- Pete It's occurred to me since posting my original query that maybe there's something that's changed without my knowing it in the Firefox configuration editor and that that's what's caused me to lose the automatic opening of links. In the absence of any other suggestions, maybe I should have a look at that (though there are an awful lot of entries in it, aren't there!). Thanks again, Leslie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Query re Firefox
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 04:54:37PM +1100, Leslie Katz wrote: I'm using Fedora, rather than Ubuntu. Following ApplicationsPreferencesMore Preferences, I get to Preferred Applications. When I click on it, I get a window with a number of tabs, one of which is called Web Browser. On that tab, I'm able to select my default web browser. I've got the Custom Web Browser button highlighted and a box into which I'm to put a command. The command which appears is the full path to the Firefox executable. I've tested that command from the command line and it does open Firefox. Unlike what I understand to be your situation, however, there is no option available on that tab relating to how links are to be opened. It's occurred to me since posting my original query that maybe there's something that's changed without my knowing it in the Firefox configuration editor and that that's what's caused me to lose the automatic opening of links. Didn't you say you're using firefox 2.0.0.2? That's not standard on any released fedora that I know of. If you installed it yourself from source, or from an alternative rpm repo, then I suspect that could be the origin of your problem. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Query re Firefox
Matthew Hannigan wrote: Didn't you say you're using firefox 2.0.0.2? That's not standard on any released fedora that I know of. If you installed it yourself from source, or from an alternative rpm repo, then I suspect that could be the origin of your problem. I am using that version, which is the latest available from Mozilla. As to how I got it installed, for some time now, whenever I've seen reference on the Web to the existence of an update, I've gone to the Firefox Help tab, clicked on Check for Updates and the update's been automatically downloaded from the Mozilla site and installed. I can't say that it's been said every time, but certainly for the last few times, including for v 2.0.0.2, the Mozilla people have said they strongly recommend updating for security reasons, so I have. I can't now be sure, but it may well be that my problem first arose after (and therefore because of?) this latest update. However, since I couldn't get any answer when I posted in the Firefox forum, maybe I've just got to live with it. Thanks for replying, Leslie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu / Windows networking
Hi all, Second post requesting help (See my post Firefox problem for an explanation of my total infancy in Linux) I have several PCs running Win98 plus one running Win98 / Ubuntu as a dual-boot on a LAN. I can see the Ubuntu PC on the Win 98 PCs but when I try to access I get a pop-up box asking for a password to resource \\MAC2\IPC$ My Ubuntu passwords do not work. Any help would be appreciated. Again, words of one syllable as I really am a novice at this Thanks Stewart MacPherson Mac from the Mountains -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
