[SLUG] Re: Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux
http://www.collax.com/index.php?id=1&L=1 A reference for my post James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 05:20 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any > other extras > > I may or may not need depending on the function of the > server. > > Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that... > > > I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra > "install the > > other things"? > > Exactly.. > > Have all the "other things" ready, even on a live-cd to give > to a customer. > > All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a > vpn > link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the > support-staff > to admin... > > in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or > whatever > to support all the windows machines on the lan also. [snip] When I'm old I shall wear purple [famous poem] And declare ideas such as these cute naive and silly The resources to support a distro, that you are selling support for hence lible for as part of your deal are enormous eg redhat, ubuntu, suse. You could easily achieve your goals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch The founders of SuSE have, can't find a ref offhand - but I installed and looked at, a server business version: It installs all office-server stuff It installed in minutes There were no questions beyond 'This will erase all partitions on your disk Yes/No' So you could not even specify partition sizes, all was automatic. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Mass converting Gigabites of wma to mp3
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 09:52 +1100, Richard Heycock wrote: > > Don't use 'man find' - 'info find' is better. > > info is evil. Notice I said 'better' not 'best' :-) I too find info a PITA (and even more of a PITA to teach to noobs) and will have a play with the suggested pinfo. -- Sonia Hamilton http://SoniaHamilton.wordpress.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 21:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small > IT companies for a Server product that can do the > following: > > - boot up and install quickly (<5 mins) > > - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS > > - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a > VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix > things on any of the machines (extra cost) > > - have some sort of backup facilities or > service. > > - compete with the redmond server product I can see the necessity for the above - I frequently get requests to setup small networks and turn them down because of time/$ ratio - contracting 9-5 in a Megacorp is easier :-) The only *Australian* part of above is "call *designated-support-firm*, etc" - for this I would go with Alex Samad's suggestion of a meta deb, + allow *designated-support-firm* to customize a conf file with details and ssh keys to produce a live CD. -- Sonia Hamilton http://SoniaHamilton.wordpress.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Puppy Linux is Australian. On Jan 23, 2008 2:39 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs > > a Linux distro. > > Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a > start... :-( > > That is a little dissappointing... > > beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small > IT companies for a Server product that can do the > following: > > - boot up and install quickly (<5 mins) > > - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS > > - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a >VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix >things on any of the machines (extra cost) > > - have some sort of backup facilities or >service. > > - compete with the redmond server product > > So it is a little different than a "distro" per se. > > When I speak to small computer firms, most say that > small businesses would pay them $500 per year for > such a facility. > > > I am sure many of us on the list (me included) can vouch > > for many successful deployments of, say, Debian-based > > systems without the need for a local distro. > > Yes. Debian rules.. > > but it isn't so easy to setup unless you go for knoppix > or ubuntu. > > I would say that I would be challenged if asked to setup > debian from scratch on a new machine with samba and > networking all running if i had a $500 budget. > > but I do know having something based on a live-cd that > is all pre-prepared is viable. > > Regards > > David > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- When one burns ones bridges, what a very nice fire it makes. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
On Jan 23, 2008 3:03 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, but Canonical/Ubuntu has significant proportion of > Australian employees, theres a large number of Australians > involved with the Debain project, a large number of well > known and respected Linux kernel hackers etc etc. > > Australia is doing quite well really. Yes! I was fortunate enough to hear Jeff Waugh speak at Ubuntu Live 2007, where I also spoke on the topic of Clonezilla, and he gave a most entertaining talk while utilizing a Wii remote :-) Very cool indeed... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "Know something about everything and everything about something." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fwd: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 25 January
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > Just another reminder to everyone. Only two days to go! Since microsoft is attending that meeting, I've decided to go to Melbourne and intend FOMS [0] instead :-). Erik [0] http://www.annodex.org/events/foms2008/ -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." -- Doug Gwyn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs > > a Linux distro. > > Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a > start... :-( > > That is a little dissappointing... > No, but Canonical/Ubuntu has significant proportion of Australian employees, theres a large number of Australians involved with the Debain project, a large number of well known and respected Linux kernel hackers etc etc. Australia is doing quite well really. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Saying Python is easier than C++ is like saying that turning a light switch on or off is easier than operating a nuclear reactor. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fwd: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 25 January
Just another reminder to everyone. Only two days to go! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 25 January Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: SLUG Announcements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> == January SLUG Monthly Meeting == You can read this announcement on the Web at http://www.slug.org.au/node/89 When: 18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 25 January, 2008 We start at 18:50 but we ask that people arrive 20 minutes early so we can all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18:00, as it may hinder business activities for our host! Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building. Where: Atlassian[1], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney (corner of Sussex and Market Street) Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area and directions can be found here[2]. = Talk = This month's meeting features a Q&A session with Microsoft. Yes, you read right. If you've ever wanted to ask Microsoft any question, post it on our wiki[3] (requires a login[4]) or come along and ask it yourself. For more information (including a list of speakers), see our FAQ[5] on this meeting. = Meeting Schedule = * 18:15 : Open Doors * 18:50 : Announcements * 19:00 : Microsoft Q&A session * 20:30 : Dinner We hope to see you there! - Sridhar [1] http://www.atlassian.com [2] http://tinyurl.com/35fxes [3] http://wiki.slug.org.au/microsoftquestions [4] http://www.slug.org.au/user [5] http://wiki.slug.org.au/microsoftquestions/faq --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thanks everyone... Nice to get some responses... I'll just answer offlist.. Take care David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Phil Scarratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any other extras I may or may not need depending on the function of the server. Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that... I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra "install the other things"? Exactly.. Have all the "other things" ready, even on a live-cd to give to a customer. All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a vpn link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the support-staff to admin... in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or whatever to support all the windows machines on the lan also. That will create support opportunities and the chance to build up ongoing monthly incomes, depending on how many businesses the support-company can sign up. I know a lot of IT-support companies would like to use linux a lot more but the problem is that the current distros aren't really configured in such a way that enables them to make money from them directly. That is the big reason why i think there is space for a distro/derivative. I honestly just don't know enough people (spend my time either hacking, or at sales meetings).So I wanted to bounce these ideas. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs a Linux distro. Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a start... :-( That is a little dissappointing... beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small IT companies for a Server product that can do the following: - boot up and install quickly (<5 mins) - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix things on any of the machines (extra cost) - have some sort of backup facilities or service. - compete with the redmond server product So it is a little different than a "distro" per se. When I speak to small computer firms, most say that small businesses would pay them $500 per year for such a facility. I am sure many of us on the list (me included) can vouch for many successful deployments of, say, Debian-based systems without the need for a local distro. Yes. Debian rules.. but it isn't so easy to setup unless you go for knoppix or ubuntu. I would say that I would be challenged if asked to setup debian from scratch on a new machine with samba and networking all running if i had a $500 budget. but I do know having something based on a live-cd that is all pre-prepared is viable. Regards David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
Quoting Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: why not go the debian/ubuntu method. Start with a base debian build, create a custom deb package (sort of a meta package) that pulls in all the relevant other debs and does a config. You could setup you own repo and your done. Well another deb for each site to do the actual customer customisations. Hi Alex, yeah exactly... I have actually checked out all the distros that I could and stumbled upon DSL or damn-small-linux. I'm customising that. That is a knoppix/debian derivative, that boots very easily and has a lot of hardware support. I think for the server version we are doing, it doesn't need a repository.. but can use the dsl/knoppix/debian packages, you get to pull down stuff off the debian repositories. I'm thinking if somebody wants something outside the box, get a debian package. Having used debian for sometime, i can't see any way to beat their package repository. But linking to it seems to be pretty sensible. Take care David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Mass converting Gigabites of wma to mp3
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