[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 44

2008-06-23 Thread jam
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 14:38:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > you know you can get a dualcore amd, ram, disk, all on board mboard and
> > case for like $350?
>
> Dean,
>
> but, apart from injecting $350 into economy, what benefit is there ?

Not needing your own power station to ruin wots-left bla bla
The learning experience for futures, cause this will be the future ...
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[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 44

2008-06-23 Thread jam
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 14:38:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Are these things any good ?
>
> do they run python ? and have net access ?
>
> can somebody demo them at a meeting ?


David I'm about to get one, so this is all hearsay, but Full Distro, including 
WiFi or CAT5 and all the bits. And the big draw card is low power. WA is 
somewhat shell shocked about power at the mo. Bluddy idjits, but I digress
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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Dean Hamstead
you can run commands in real time rather than scheduling them 
strategically with at and cron?


Dean


Voytek Eymont wrote:

On Tue, June 24, 2008 3:17 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:

you know you can get a dualcore amd, ram, disk, all on board mboard and
case for like $350?


Dean,

but, apart from injecting $350 into economy, what benefit is there ?



Voytek Eymont wrote:


On Tue, June 24, 2008 2:11 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:


I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize
every interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use
486SL (which I
think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering
machine/file server

You are thinking of a 386DX, 486SL is the powersaver/mobile version
of the 486DX.

thanks, Dean

actually, I was thinking of 75MHz 486 'SLC' IBM's Blue Lightning CPU +
mboard, my mistake, it's the 75MHz Blue Lightning that I still use,
still works just as well as the day I bought it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC




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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, June 24, 2008 3:17 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> you know you can get a dualcore amd, ram, disk, all on board mboard and
> case for like $350?

Dean,

but, apart from injecting $350 into economy, what benefit is there ?


> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> On Tue, June 24, 2008 2:11 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:
>>
 I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize
 every interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use
 486SL (which I
 think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering
 machine/file server
>>> You are thinking of a 386DX, 486SL is the powersaver/mobile version
>>> of the 486DX.
>>
>> thanks, Dean
>>
>> actually, I was thinking of 75MHz 486 'SLC' IBM's Blue Lightning CPU +
>> mboard, my mistake, it's the 75MHz Blue Lightning that I still use,
>> still works just as well as the day I bought it
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Gumstix - do they work ?

2008-06-23 Thread James Dumay
David,
I've played with one a while ago - you can get these things running an arm
version of debian. So yes, you can run python.

I believe you can get both ethernet and wifi in a gumstix. See their website
for more info.

Cheers
James

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>
> Are these things any good ?
>
> do they run python ? and have net access ?
>
> can somebody demo them at a meeting ?
>
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[SLUG] Gumstix - do they work ?

2008-06-23 Thread david . lyon


Are these things any good ?

do they run python ? and have net access ?

can somebody demo them at a meeting ?

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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On Tue, June 24, 2008 2:11 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:

I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize every
interface till there is no holes left vacant...


aha...

well use the keyboard UART and level convert your RS-232 into that...

Doing that used to be a popular solution in the 'old days for hardware  
hackers to get an extra serial port... if I recall correctly..


also, if you hunt around enough old unix boxes, a lot of them came  
with 8 or 16 port serial ports...


Places to look for one of those might include North Rocks computer markets.

If you really like *old*, then a PDP-11 you might find they  
definitely have spare serial ports and the advantage of those is that  
they can be programmed in the basic programming language. Just  
remember to pay your power bill every week otherwise everything might  
mysteriously stop working.


:-)









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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Dean Hamstead
you know you can get a dualcore amd, ram, disk, all on board mboard and 
case for like $350?


Dean

Voytek Eymont wrote:

On Tue, June 24, 2008 2:11 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:

I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize every
interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use 486SL (which I
 think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering
machine/file server

You are thinking of a 386DX, 486SL is the powersaver/mobile version of
the 486DX.


thanks, Dean

actually, I was thinking of 75MHz 486 'SLC' IBM's Blue Lightning CPU +
mboard, my mistake, it's the 75MHz Blue Lightning that I still use, still
works just as well as the day I bought it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC




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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, June 24, 2008 2:11 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote:
>> I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize every
>> interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use 486SL (which I
>>  think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering
>> machine/file server
>
> You are thinking of a 386DX, 486SL is the powersaver/mobile version of
> the 486DX.

thanks, Dean

actually, I was thinking of 75MHz 486 'SLC' IBM's Blue Lightning CPU +
mboard, my mistake, it's the 75MHz Blue Lightning that I still use, still
works just as well as the day I bought it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC


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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread jam
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 10:00:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want to setup a 'data logger' for rain water tanks and hot water storage
> tanks, for this I'll need at leats 3 RS232 ports
>
> luckily, the vinatge of computers found at rubish tips, oops, recycling
> places, generally has two RS232 ports, but, that still leaves me short of
> one port:
>
> I have several multi RS232s cards, but, ISA, which is of not much use
>
> should I get a PCI multi RS232 card,
> or, go for USB-with-two-RS232 ports gadget ?
>
> (or, get another PC, and use two PCs...)

Well he said, dusting off the soapbox, there are reasons to consider these 
http://www.gumstix.com in particular the robostix and in particular 
http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=139

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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Dean Hamstead

I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize every
interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use 486SL (which I
think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering machine/file
server


You are thinking of a 386DX, 486SL is the powersaver/mobile version of 
the 486DX.


Dean
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Re: [SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, June 24, 2008 11:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> another option... an RS-232 <-> USB converter, that will give you another
>  RS-232 port on an old clunker. Giving you three RS232 ports all up.

actually, I bought one last week that has USB to TWO RS232s, runs fine on
windoze, I presume, it will run on Linux as well, I'll try that, it was...
around $40 I think

I'm just thinking what will work 'best'

> and when I think about it ? what ? only one PC running in the house ? so
> few... most of the linux diehards have at least five :-)

I really like to utilize my hardware till it drops, and, utilize every
interface till there is no holes left vacant, I still use 486SL (which I
think is a 386 with math co-pro?) as a fax server/answering machine/file
server

(apart from my web server, remote to me) this will be my 1st Linux machine

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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Craig Dibble

Quoting Jonathan Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


More broadly, generating your wireless key with a cryptographically
secure RNG seems to me to be overkill for most people. Buying
specialty dice for it seems plain silly.[1] Flipping a coin eight
times doesn't take much longer than rolling 4d4, 2d16 or rolling 3d8
and dropping a bit, and saves you a trip to the shops.


Sorry, but all this talk of dice reminded me of this:

http://xkcd.com/221/

Just about sums it up really ;-)

Craig


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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Rick Welykochy

Jonathan Lange wrote:


Recent events have reminded us that randomness is just as important in
SSH key generation. I'd save my dice (and my time) for things that
actually guard my data.


An old favourite is to pick a song you know well and grab the
first letters of a line or two in the song. Apply a standard
substitution rule to the letters and voila!

ttl8hIwwyA

This is for passphrases (usually for keys) that you have to remember
and type in often.


cheers
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Re: [SLUG] installing Firefox ?

2008-06-23 Thread david
I'm so glad I'm not the only dumb person :)


On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 10:33 +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
> ahem, dumb question, how do I install FF3 on Centos ?
> 
> I've downloaded firefox3.tar.bz2, where do I extract to, what needs done ?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox]# ./firefox-bin
> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox]# ./run-mozilla.sh
> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .
> 
> readme has this:
> For information about installing, running and configuring Firefox
> including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,
> refer to: http://getfirefox.com/releases/
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Lange wrote:
>>
>> Of course, the more interesting question is WHY!?!?!
>
> Apologies, I had thought it was obvious.
>

You've missed the spirit of my question, I think. I looked only at
Kenneth's post and saw something that described a complex and (I
think) wrong way to generate a random byte.

More broadly, generating your wireless key with a cryptographically
secure RNG seems to me to be overkill for most people. Buying
specialty dice for it seems plain silly.[1] Flipping a coin eight
times doesn't take much longer than rolling 4d4, 2d16 or rolling 3d8
and dropping a bit, and saves you a trip to the shops.

Recent events have reminded us that randomness is just as important in
SSH key generation. I'd save my dice (and my time) for things that
actually guard my data.

jml

[1] The last time I went dice shopping, I didn't see any d16s for
sale. They are uncommon even in the world of tabletop roleplaying.
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[SLUG] more RS232: USB-RS232, PCI ?

2008-06-23 Thread Voytek Eymont
I want to setup a 'data logger' for rain water tanks and hot water storage
tanks, for this I'll need at leats 3 RS232 ports

luckily, the vinatge of computers found at rubish tips, oops, recycling
places, generally has two RS232 ports, but, that still leaves me short of
one port:

I have several multi RS232s cards, but, ISA, which is of not much use

should I get a PCI multi RS232 card,
or, go for USB-with-two-RS232 ports gadget ?

(or, get another PC, and use two PCs...)


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[SLUG] installing Firefox ?

2008-06-23 Thread Voytek Eymont
ahem, dumb question, how do I install FF3 on Centos ?

I've downloaded firefox3.tar.bz2, where do I extract to, what needs done ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox]# ./firefox-bin
./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox]# ./run-mozilla.sh
run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .

readme has this:
For information about installing, running and configuring Firefox
including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,
refer to: http://getfirefox.com/releases/



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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Cibby Pulikkaseril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I'd just like to add an anecdote on pseudo-random number generation:  
 several years ago, a group of Canadian comp. sci. students were   
arrested for fraud. .

...


Good story..


I can't seem to find a link to this story, though. Is it bogus?



try sending it to mythbusters

maybe they might know...

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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Cibby Pulikkaseril
I'd just like to add an anecdote on pseudo-random number generation: several 
years ago, a group of Canadian comp. sci. students were arrested for fraud. A 
casino made the charges, claiming the students 'hacked' into their computer 
which dealt the numbers for one of their random-draw games.

Naturally, everyone suspected that the boys had done something nefarious, since 
they were in the black magic arts of computing. The boys came away with several 
thousand dollars in winnings. 

When they arrested the college kids, they sheepishly explained how they did it: 
the computer, which drew the random numbers, used the last few digits of the 
clock as the pseudo-random number. This is a standard method of picking random 
numbers, though it's awfully insecure. The computers were started, every day, 
automatically, at precisely the same moment. 

Due to the nature of the game, the draws were fixed in time, as well, for 
example, a draw would occur exactly every 15 minutes. The boys realized that 
the same numbers appeared at the same time of day, and simply bet on them.

I can't seem to find a link to this story, though. Is it bogus?

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--- On Mon, 6/23/08, Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?
> To: "Glen Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Jonathan Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, slug@slug.org.au
> Received: Monday, June 23, 2008, 7:57 AM
> Glen Turner wrote:
> 
> > They avoid number at the extremes
> > and avoid repeated digits (a 60 byte string would have
> > a run of 6 repeated digits about one time in five).
> > The result is very non-random.
> 
> Yes indeed. I've read about complaints from consumers
> about seemingly non-random behaviour in the shuffle
> function on iPods. Apple tries to explain that yes,
> the iPod can easily play 3 songs in a row by the same
> artist when in random mode. This is the nature of
> randomness. Usually falls on deaf ears.
> 
> cheers
> rickw
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Re: [SLUG] help with bind

2008-06-23 Thread Massimiliano Fantuzzi
to hand-generate key do :

rndc-confgen -a -b 128 -t /var/named/chroot -r keyboard
if you are in a chroot env, or simply
*rndc-confgen* *-a
*to allow *rndc* to be used with no manual configuration.
or even simpler, to print a sample *rndc.conf* file and corresponding
*controls* and *key*
statements to be manually inserted into *named.conf*, run
*rndc-confgen*

but please backup before, just in case !

bye, Massimiliano Fantuzzi



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> Hi
>
> I'm playing with bind attempting to set up a DNS server. Found a nice
> how- to that walks through step by step.
>
> Only problem is when I attempt to stop bind9, I get the following
> message:
>
> Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connection to remote host
> closed
> This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
> the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key
> is invalid.
> failed!
>
> I'm setting this up on a vmware console running Etch purely for
> education purposes. In other words I have no idea what I am doing - just
> following instructions.
>
> Incidentally, the instructions I am following are at the following
> address:
> http://linux.justinhartman.com/DNS_installation_and_setup_using_BIND9
>
> Thanks in advance.
> -
> Regards
>
> Phil
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Re: [SLUG] help with bind

2008-06-23 Thread Massimiliano Fantuzzi
Hi !
I do speak for my ubuntu dns, but i think isssue is closed to etch.

i heard that now rndc (remote domain name server control utility) uses 953
as standard port, instead of old 53.
so do a " netstat -an | grep -i 53 ", it should print both 53 (bind daemon)
and 953 listening.

by checking in your error message, reading statement  "or the key is
invalid", i assume you didn't setup rndc-keys

check /etc/bind/named.conf and /etc/bind/rndc.key, they must contain an
identical hash. (paths can differ)
you can take one hash as good, the first you find, or generate a new one by
a simple procedure.

i quote :" *rndc-confgen* generates configuration files for *rndc*. It can
be used as a convenient alternative to writing the *rndc.conf* file and the
corresponding *controls* and *key* statements in *named.conf* by hand.
Alternatively, it can be run with the *-a* option to set up a
*rndc.key*file and avoid the need for a
*rndc.conf* file and a *controls* statement altogether. "

first: adjust keys, then issue a :
rndc -p 953 -s localhost -k /etc/bind/rndc.key status
or
rndc -p 953 -s localhost -k /etc/bind/rndc.key stop
to check/stop running.
if it doesnt solve, try 53 port. (but i think is deprecated)

once you set it up the right way, also init.d script should run normally.

HTH and hope not to have missconfused.
Massimiliano Fantuzzi

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Philip Kerkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm playing with bind attempting to set up a DNS server. Found a nice
> how- to that walks through step by step.
>
> Only problem is when I attempt to stop bind9, I get the following
> message:
>
> Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connection to remote host
> closed
> This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
> the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key
> is invalid.
> failed!
>
> I'm setting this up on a vmware console running Etch purely for
> education purposes. In other words I have no idea what I am doing - just
> following instructions.
>
> Incidentally, the instructions I am following are at the following
> address:
> http://linux.justinhartman.com/DNS_installation_and_setup_using_BIND9
>
> Thanks in advance.
> -
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
> I Like to take on my problems one at a time,
> but, they refuse to line up
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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Rick Welykochy

Glen Turner wrote:


They avoid number at the extremes
and avoid repeated digits (a 60 byte string would have
a run of 6 repeated digits about one time in five).
The result is very non-random.


Yes indeed. I've read about complaints from consumers
about seemingly non-random behaviour in the shuffle
function on iPods. Apple tries to explain that yes,
the iPod can easily play 3 songs in a row by the same
artist when in random mode. This is the nature of
randomness. Usually falls on deaf ears.

cheers
rickw

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Re: [SLUG] Is someone is snooping my wireless?

2008-06-23 Thread Glen Turner

Jonathan Lange wrote:

Of course, the more interesting question is WHY!?!?!


Apologies, I had thought it was obvious.

Keys are often given in a hexadecimal representation.
Each 4 bits is a hex digit, written using 0...9A...F.

So a d16 will generate a hex digit of randomness. Two
d16s will generate two hex digits, which is 2*4=8 bits,
which is commonly called a "byte".

With a pair of d16s a 63-byte key can be generated
in 63 throws, five minutes or so.

The other side of this is (1) it's very hard for
computers to generate random numbers, and using a
computer to generate a "random" key you then use on
the same computer is full of security issues.
(2) it's very hard for humans to generate strings
of random numbers. They avoid number at the extremes
and avoid repeated digits (a 60 byte string would have
a run of 6 repeated digits about one time in five).
The result is very non-random.

So you can see the attraction of a d16 dice.

Secret shared keys are very common in computing
(not just WPA-PSK, but RADIUS and BGP). Having
difficult-to-guess (ie, random) keys is very
important and a vital assumption in their security.
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[SLUG] help with bind

2008-06-23 Thread Philip Kerkin
Hi

I'm playing with bind attempting to set up a DNS server. Found a nice
how- to that walks through step by step.

Only problem is when I attempt to stop bind9, I get the following
message:

Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connection to remote host
closed 
This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key
is invalid.
failed!

I'm setting this up on a vmware console running Etch purely for
education purposes. In other words I have no idea what I am doing - just
following instructions.

Incidentally, the instructions I am following are at the following
address:
http://linux.justinhartman.com/DNS_installation_and_setup_using_BIND9 

Thanks in advance.
-  
Regards

Phil

I Like to take on my problems one at a time,
but, they refuse to line up

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[SLUG] Conflict between deb's & cvs

2008-06-23 Thread Adam Bogacki

[Erm .. the previous email was sent from Misia's account, not mine.]

Hi,

I had a conflict between current debs and their deprecated cvs versions.
Advice from various sources was to delete the cvs versions so I deleted

libavcodeccvs51 libavutilcvs49 libpostproccvs51 libswscalecvs0

I located the latest non-cvs versions in the debian depository
and installed them manually [dpkg -i].

I found the latest cvs versions at

http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/f/ffmpegcvs/ffmpegcvs.php

.. which I believe is Marillat's UCLA depository, and also downloaded
them manually. The latest version is generally '20080610' ..

However, installing the cvs's in place of the older deleted pkgs always
gives me the same error msg:

Tohunga:/home/adam/Downloads# dpkg -i 
libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb

(Reading database ... 317407 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libavcodeccvs51 (from libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb) 
...

dpkg: error processing libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51', which is also in 
package libavcodec51

Errors were encountered while processing:
 libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb

'libavcodec.so.51' is a symlink ..


Tohunga:/usr/lib# ls -la libavcodec.so.51
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2008-06-23 11:08 libavcodec.so.51 -> 
libavcodec.so.51.50.0

.. as are the  *.so.* files for the other cvs pkgs.

Also, trying to use mplayer gives me


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mplayer
mplayer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.51: undefined 
symbol: av_crc04C11DB7


At this point I'm not sure what to do next, not wanting to damage the 
system.


Can anyone suggest a fix ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[SLUG] Conflict between deb's & cvs

2008-06-23 Thread Misia Bogacka

Hi,

I had a conflict between current debs and their deprecated cvs versions.
Advice from various sources was to delete the cvs versions so I deleted

libavcodeccvs51 libavutilcvs49 libpostproccvs51 libswscalecvs0

After a bit of a search I located the latest non-cvs versions in the 
debian depository

and installed them manually.

I found the latest cvs versions at

http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/f/ffmpegcvs/ffmpegcvs.php

.. which I believe is Marillat's UCLA depository, and also downloaded
them manually. The latest version is generally '20080610' ..

However, installing the cvs's in place of the older deleted pkgs
gives me the same error msg:

Tohunga:/home/adam/Downloads# dpkg -i 
libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb

(Reading database ... 317407 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libavcodeccvs51 (from libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51', which is also in 
package libavcodec51

Errors were encountered while processing:
 libavcodeccvs51_20080414-0.0_i386.deb

'libavcodec.so.51' is a symlink ..


Tohunga:/usr/lib# ls -la libavcodec.so.51
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2008-06-23 11:08 libavcodec.so.51 -> 
libavcodec.so.51.50.0

.. as are the  *.so.* files for the other cvs pkgs.

Also, trying to use mplayer gives me


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mplayer
mplayer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.51: undefined 
symbol: av_crc04C11DB7


At this point I'm not sure what to do next, not wanting to damage the 
system.


Can anyone suggest a fix ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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