[SLUG] setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive

2009-01-06 Thread Kevin Shackleton
SLUGgers,

I have fallen into a black hole regarding setting up a thumbdrive so
that I can install eeebuntu on my eee 701.  I've found some very expert
advice if I were running Ubuntu or even Windows on my desktop, but
Debian Etch doesn't seem to rate a mention (unetbootin might work if I
could install it but it says that the i386 version is 64 bit).

Can someone please point me to a URL that might let me achieve Nirvana?

Thanks,

Kevin.

btw - the reason I'd be interested is that Xandros has clagged out my
network connections and I can't see why - probably parallel
configurations with the less useful winning.  Anyway - it's sexy to keep
changing (?)

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[SLUG] Linux Traineeships?

2009-01-06 Thread Blindraven
Is there such a thing as a job that'd be willing to put someone
through the starter ropes with Linux in a Junior SysAdmin role and
whiz them of to places for certifications? (or not?)
Is this more of a dream then a reality?

I've heard time and time again people say employers prefer attitude
and willingness to learn then a piece of paper, But is this just
elitist fluff?
One of the Junior roles I tried for quite some time ago in the city
was one of the most depressing wank-shop's I've ever had the
misfortune of embarrassing myself in, since this interview I've just
been to self concious to bother applying for anything else.

Does anybody have any advice on good places to look for these types of roles?
I'm talking novice/intermediate every.day administration, comfortable
with bare CLI etc.

Appreciated,
T.











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Re: [SLUG] Linux Traineeships?

2009-01-06 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/1/6 Blindraven blindra...@gmail.com:
 Is there such a thing as a job that'd be willing to put someone
 through the starter ropes with Linux in a Junior SysAdmin role and
 whiz them of to places for certifications? (or not?)
 Is this more of a dream then a reality?

Sorry. Can't help you on that one.


 I've heard time and time again people say employers prefer attitude
 and willingness to learn then a piece of paper, But is this just
 elitist fluff?

As an employer, back when we were looking for a sysadmin we certainly
valued self-learners and people who are enthusiastic about the
technology much more than those who could only show that they went
through the motions and got the stamp to show that they know how to
answer questions in a uni exam, and will treat the position as a pure
9-5 day job (not that I want to over-employ my workers but I want not
to have to do all the thinking and problem-solving for them).

This doesn't mean I totally discard good papers. e.g. from what I
heard about the RedHat certification it sounds like something which
actually proves that someone knows their stuff (it has two separate
hands-on exams with high pass mark). They'd still have to show me that
they can come up with on-the-spot solutions for real-life situations,
to prove that they can think on their feet.

Same with uni degrees - they aren't a requirement in my view but couldn't hurt.

 Does anybody have any advice on good places to look for these types of roles?
 I'm talking novice/intermediate every.day administration, comfortable
 with bare CLI etc.

I don't know how much it helps you but try maybe finding a
sourceforge/Google-Code/other open source project you can contribute
to (maybe help maintain servers for a free project such as
wikipedia/debian/centos).
Good system admins also need to know/understand programming so it
would help your resume if you could show that you took part in open
source projects, and what contribution you made. There are tons of
perl/shell-scripting opportunities.

Also you can/should set yourself system admin tasks to play on your
own computer or on some virtual environment (I see very sexy stuff
about amazon) (e.g. setup a
mail+imap+ldap+http+backup+samba+http+printer+nfs+vpn+svn server with
fail-over, monitoring, stats gathering, automatic deployment tool
(everyone likes puppet these days but personally I'll try rollout)
and virtualization).

Just an idea.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Traineeships?

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel Pittman
Blindraven blindra...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there such a thing as a job that'd be willing to put someone
 through the starter ropes with Linux in a Junior SysAdmin role and
 whiz them of to places for certifications? (or not?)  Is this more of
 a dream then a reality?

Yes, and yes, probably.  Specifically, there are places in Melbourne
where I have worked in the past that might look to doing this, and I
presume that Sydney would be the same — mostly smaller businesses.

OTOH, especially in the current economic climate you are probably short
on luck: it is hard to get hired anywhere, and that isn't going to
change in the next few months.

On that basis anyone who needs extra hand-holding is going to be at a
significant disadvantage, so finding somewhere ... will be a challenge.

 I've heard time and time again people say employers prefer attitude
 and willingness to learn then a piece of paper, But is this just
 elitist fluff?

That doesn't entirely make sense: usually people call the requirement
for the degree elitist fluff rather than the willingness to overlook
the lack of a degree or certification. ;)

Anyway, um, generally employers vary wildly, but when hiring I have
always been of the opinion that a degree is a good sign but hardly the
be all and end all.[1]

Having a degree shows three things: first, that you can complete a
degree course at university, second, that you know how to study and
research things, and finally that you might have some vague knowledge
of the area you studied.


There are other ways to prove the same thing, but the degree is a good
shorthand, and when you have a hundred (or even thirty) resumes to
review it can be a useful first pass filter...

 One of the Junior roles I tried for quite some time ago in the city
 was one of the most depressing wank-shop's I've ever had the
 misfortune of embarrassing myself in

If you are hoping to have folks help you find somewhere you really want
to do one of two things here: either don't talk about it, or explain
what you mean.  Don't name names, obviously, but details count.

After all, I now have no idea how you embarrassed yourself, or why you
considered the junior role to be at a wank-shop, but I have to wonder.

My first thought is to the various people I have worked with over the
years who had very high opinions of themselves.  When presented with
actual work, found that they were not able to perform, and concluded
that the employer or the job was at fault, not themselves...

Now, that is a terrible thing to think about someone and I have no
reason to believe that you *are* like that — but in the absence of any
facts the concern is hard to escape.


 since this interview I've just been to self concious to bother
 applying for anything else.

The secret to getting a job when you don't have a good set of academic
results, and you also don't have a lot of experience, is to apply for an
awful lot of jobs.

Most of them will reject you, but eventually you will get lucky and be
able to find something, then start building the experience you need to
show that you can, in fact, actually do things. :)

 Does anybody have any advice on good places to look for these types of
 roles?

Everywhere.  Seriously, talk to your friends and family, strangers you
run into at the cafe, read user groups, join SAGE-AU for the job list,
network, and generally apply for anything that looks interesting, no
matter what.

Be flexible, and willing to put up with less than perfect conditions, or
to do scut-work for a while to get experience, since you want
*something* to convince an employer to take a chance on you next time.

 I'm talking novice/intermediate every.day administration, comfortable
 with bare CLI etc.

Publish a resume, and point people to it. :)

Regards,
Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  I don't have one myself, after all. ;)

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Traineeships?

2009-01-06 Thread Blindraven
I want to reply in length to all of these, I'll get back to you in the morning.
Right now it's to hot to think =/

T.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net wrote:
 Blindraven blindra...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there such a thing as a job that'd be willing to put someone
 through the starter ropes with Linux in a Junior SysAdmin role and
 whiz them of to places for certifications? (or not?)  Is this more of
 a dream then a reality?

 Yes, and yes, probably.  Specifically, there are places in Melbourne
 where I have worked in the past that might look to doing this, and I
 presume that Sydney would be the same — mostly smaller businesses.

 OTOH, especially in the current economic climate you are probably short
 on luck: it is hard to get hired anywhere, and that isn't going to
 change in the next few months.

 On that basis anyone who needs extra hand-holding is going to be at a
 significant disadvantage, so finding somewhere ... will be a challenge.

 I've heard time and time again people say employers prefer attitude
 and willingness to learn then a piece of paper, But is this just
 elitist fluff?

 That doesn't entirely make sense: usually people call the requirement
 for the degree elitist fluff rather than the willingness to overlook
 the lack of a degree or certification. ;)

 Anyway, um, generally employers vary wildly, but when hiring I have
 always been of the opinion that a degree is a good sign but hardly the
 be all and end all.[1]

 Having a degree shows three things: first, that you can complete a
 degree course at university, second, that you know how to study and
 research things, and finally that you might have some vague knowledge
 of the area you studied.


 There are other ways to prove the same thing, but the degree is a good
 shorthand, and when you have a hundred (or even thirty) resumes to
 review it can be a useful first pass filter...

 One of the Junior roles I tried for quite some time ago in the city
 was one of the most depressing wank-shop's I've ever had the
 misfortune of embarrassing myself in

 If you are hoping to have folks help you find somewhere you really want
 to do one of two things here: either don't talk about it, or explain
 what you mean.  Don't name names, obviously, but details count.

 After all, I now have no idea how you embarrassed yourself, or why you
 considered the junior role to be at a wank-shop, but I have to wonder.

 My first thought is to the various people I have worked with over the
 years who had very high opinions of themselves.  When presented with
 actual work, found that they were not able to perform, and concluded
 that the employer or the job was at fault, not themselves...

 Now, that is a terrible thing to think about someone and I have no
 reason to believe that you *are* like that — but in the absence of any
 facts the concern is hard to escape.


 since this interview I've just been to self concious to bother
 applying for anything else.

 The secret to getting a job when you don't have a good set of academic
 results, and you also don't have a lot of experience, is to apply for an
 awful lot of jobs.

 Most of them will reject you, but eventually you will get lucky and be
 able to find something, then start building the experience you need to
 show that you can, in fact, actually do things. :)

 Does anybody have any advice on good places to look for these types of
 roles?

 Everywhere.  Seriously, talk to your friends and family, strangers you
 run into at the cafe, read user groups, join SAGE-AU for the job list,
 network, and generally apply for anything that looks interesting, no
 matter what.

 Be flexible, and willing to put up with less than perfect conditions, or
 to do scut-work for a while to get experience, since you want
 *something* to convince an employer to take a chance on you next time.

 I'm talking novice/intermediate every.day administration, comfortable
 with bare CLI etc.

 Publish a resume, and point people to it. :)

 Regards,
Daniel

 Footnotes:
 [1]  I don't have one myself, after all. ;)

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Re: [SLUG] setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive

2009-01-06 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
2009/1/6 Kevin Shackleton kev...@bbsat.com.au:
 SLUGgers,

 I have fallen into a black hole regarding setting up a thumbdrive so
 that I can install eeebuntu on my eee 701.  I've found some very expert
 advice if I were running Ubuntu or even Windows on my desktop, but
 Debian Etch doesn't seem to rate a mention (unetbootin might work if I
 could install it but it says that the i386 version is 64 bit).

 Can someone please point me to a URL that might let me achieve Nirvana?

Take a look at the isotostick directions at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

It should (at least in theory) work for an eeebuntu ISO on Debian.


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[SLUG] amaroK OSD issues

2009-01-06 Thread Ben
I don't know if it's just because I'm running Gnome with amarok, but
the OSD has some serious issues.

I run a dual monitor setup using nVidia binary drivers and twinview
with compiz enabled.

If I watch a video, on either screen, full screen or otherwise, then
sometimes the video playback goes weird:
1. Imagine dividing video window into a grid at roughtly 20pixel increments.
2. Now number the blocks 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 etc.
3. Now picture a combination of blocks turning black, eg. all the 1s,
or all the 1s,2s and 3s, or just the 2s and 4s, but only for a
fraction of a second.

This happens when I scroll quickly in firefox using the scroll bar -
not the mouse wheel - I assume it's due to every nth bit of the video
memory being stolen from video overlay to redraw the 3d desktop. I can
cope with it in Firefox, because it only happens when scrolling and
only in some cases.

The pain in the butt is amaroK. If amaroK is running (at all - even
with music stopped, minimised to tray (or not)) then this flickering
happens constantly. However if I disable the OSD in amaroK, it stops
happening. (nb. the OSD only appears while playing music, and only for
a few seconds (or whatever you set it to) at the start of each song -
it just displays the song name as sort of a giant semitransparent tool
tip wherever you like on the screen.

My hypothesis is that whoever coded the OSD in amaroK did a really
lazy job and the OSD is polling the screen like I'd expect a java app
to do, hence it's trying to redraw every clock cycle, even if it's not
being used (ie, blank).

Alternatives theories are some kind of weirdness in it being a KDE app
and trying to talk to Gnome, specifically Gnome running compiz on
nVidia binary drivers while running TwinView - and probably doing the
dishes as well :-P

How should I go about further troubleshooting this, or should I just
go to amaroK and ask them?
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[SLUG] Re: setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive

2009-01-06 Thread elliott-brennan
Hi Kevin,

That is how I completed my buntu install.

If you're in the local area I can give you a
hand...otherwise I can find my notes (I made a
few) and send them  to you (just have to find them :))

Regards,

Patrick


 [SLUG] setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive
 Kevin Shackleton kev...@bbsat.com.au
 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:53:13 +0900

 SLUGgers,

 I have fallen into a black hole regarding setting up a thumbdrive so
 that I can install eeebuntu on my eee 701.  I've found some very expert
 advice if I were running Ubuntu or even Windows on my desktop, but
 Debian Etch doesn't seem to rate a mention (unetbootin might work if I
 could install it but it says that the i386 version is 64 bit).

 Can someone please point me to a URL that might let me achieve Nirvana?

 Thanks,

 Kevin.

 btw - the reason I'd be interested is that Xandros has clagged out my
 network connections and I can't see why - probably parallel
 configurations with the less useful winning.  Anyway - it's sexy to keep
 changing (?)


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Re: [SLUG] Re: setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive

2009-01-06 Thread mark adrian bell
Hi Kevin,

As I recall, the first thing I did was use my desktop machine to download a 
copy of the Xubuntu live CD. I then booted that on my desktop machine and 
clicked the desktop link to make a bootable USB drive of Xubuntu. Either that, 
or I downloaded and installed UNbootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/) to 
make a bootable USB drive. When I booted the Eepc, I had to press F2 to get 
it to boot from the USB drive. Once I had Xubuntu booted, instalation to the 
Epc went like clockwork. Then I downloaded the customized Epc kernel 
from Array.org and installed that  (http://www.array.org/ubuntu/) and since 
then, everything just works and I take my Epc everywhere with a big penguin 
on top for everyone to see. Hope that helps,

- mark
 
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, elliott-brennan elliottbren...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: elliott-brennan elliottbren...@gmail.com
 Subject: [SLUG] Re: setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive
 To: slug@slug.org.au, Kevin Shackleton kev...@bbsat.com.au
 Received: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 2:41 AM
 Hi Kevin,
 
 That is how I completed my buntu install.
 
 If you're in the local area I can give you a
 hand...otherwise I can find my notes (I made a
 few) and send them  to you (just have to find them :))
 
 Regards,
 
 Patrick
 
 
  [SLUG] setting up to install eeebuntu via thumbdrive
  Kevin Shackleton kev...@bbsat.com.au
  Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:53:13 +0900
 
  SLUGgers,
 
  I have fallen into a black hole regarding setting up a
 thumbdrive so
  that I can install eeebuntu on my eee 701.  I've
 found some very expert
  advice if I were running Ubuntu or even Windows on my
 desktop, but
  Debian Etch doesn't seem to rate a mention
 (unetbootin might work if I
  could install it but it says that the i386 version is
 64 bit).
 
  Can someone please point me to a URL that might let me
 achieve Nirvana?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kevin.
 
  btw - the reason I'd be interested is that Xandros
 has clagged out my
  network connections and I can't see why - probably
 parallel
  configurations with the less useful winning.  Anyway -
 it's sexy to keep
  changing (?)
 
 
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[SLUG] Re: fdisk complains about geometry of a disk image

2009-01-06 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/1/6 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com:
 The driver was installed? As far as I know, these mini cds are usually for
 windows 95, windows me. Old machines.
 Please check what it's written on the mini-cd.

Nope. I connected the disk to Ubuntu 8.04 i386 and used ddrescue to
read it. Nothing to do with Windows or NTFS.

(the backup USB drive I bought is a 750Gb WD USB drive formatted as
NTFS, which I left at that for now because I plan to backup another
Windows laptop on it as well).



 Could it be that Windows screwed up some parameters on the disk itself
 to disable it from supporting 137Gb?

 137gb is the limit of ntfs with windows service pack1. service pack2 is
 greater.

I access (or try to access) the drive's raw data.
Apart from the NTFS partition, the drive was partitioned with one boot
partition and the rest is under LVM2 and ext3.

Thanks for the tips.

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[SLUG] Re: fdisk complains about geometry of a disk image

2009-01-06 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/1/7 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com:
 2009/1/6 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com:
 The driver was installed? As far as I know, these mini cds are usually for
 windows 95, windows me. Old machines.
 Please check what it's written on the mini-cd.

 Nope. I connected the disk to Ubuntu 8.04 i386 and used ddrescue to
 read it. Nothing to do with Windows or NTFS.
...

Sorry. Wrong reply-to address. Was meant to be replied to another
linux mailing list.

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Re: [SLUG] amaroK OSD issues

2009-01-06 Thread jam
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 10:00:06 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 I don't know if it's just because I'm running Gnome with amarok, but
 the OSD has some serious issues.

 I run a dual monitor setup using nVidia binary drivers and twinview
 with compiz enabled.

I run amarok on AMD-X2 with various nvidia graphics (um onboard 6xxx, 8500, 
8600) on a gnome desktop. Mostly SuSE 11.1 and Ubuntu 8.10 (each gives me the 
pip in different areas)  and limited compiz, with twinview.

No display funnies observed on any of 4 machines.

James

PS I hate allusions to woes without detail, so:
Ubuntu 8.10: Don't touch the buttons! (any). Try to setup static network with 
NM interfering and without editing by hand - sheesh you'r better than me. I 
can't.
SuSE 11.1: I want a top task bar. With Compiz enabled every window is opened 
at top left under the top task bar. First 7341 times is OK then it starts to 
get you. If you install from the LiveCD, not DVD, the package management is a 
nightmare eg try to install 'build-essential' from the live CD. I'll send food 
and water.
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[SLUG] Free to any home - assorted 17/19 CRTs (Pickup Only)

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Walkom
We have a bunch of oldish CRT monitors at work here that are taking up
space, they are all working and have their cables.
If anyone is willing to come to Crowns Nest they can take as many as they
want.

Here's the list;
* 11 assorted HP 17 monitors, models 7500 to 7550.
* Hitachi CM621F 17
* Hyundai ImageQuest F770D 17
* Hyundai ImageQuest P910+ 19

If you are interested drop me an email off list.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [SLUG] amaroK OSD issues

2009-01-06 Thread Owen Townend
2009/1/7 Ben shadr...@gmail.com:
 I don't know if it's just because I'm running Gnome with amarok, but
 the OSD has some serious issues.

 I run a dual monitor setup using nVidia binary drivers and twinview
 with compiz enabled.

 If I watch a video, on either screen, full screen or otherwise, then
 sometimes the video playback goes weird:
 1. Imagine dividing video window into a grid at roughtly 20pixel increments.
 2. Now number the blocks 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 etc.
 3. Now picture a combination of blocks turning black, eg. all the 1s,
 or all the 1s,2s and 3s, or just the 2s and 4s, but only for a
 fraction of a second.

[snip]

Not a solution per se, but I believe that in the nvidia-settings app
you can force 'triple buffering' on which may alleviate the symptoms.

Triple buffering basically stores a copy of the frame between build
and display which helps stop partly complete frames from being
displayed. (e.g. If the display poll rate is faster than the rate at
which the system can render them)

Might help,
Cheers,
Owen.
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Re: [SLUG] NAS device for home?

2009-01-06 Thread Sonia Hamilton

Ben wrote:

I'm using a Gigabyte motherboard with 4x1TB SATA drives,and 2x 200MB
IDE drives. I could give you the model number but it's out of date, so
wouldn't be of any use.
  
Thanks Ben, that's a wicked setup you've got. Someone mentioned 
http://www.freenas.org/ in a later post - I think I'll have a play with 
that, just expand an old mobo I've got lying around.

Oh, and you misspelt pr0n. ;-)
  

Thanks for the correction :-p

Sonia.
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