[SLUG] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 performance [Was: Sound in Ubuntu 9.04]

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 00:55:18 Jeff Waugh wrote:
 The sluggishness is almost certainly related to the video driver
 performance regression in Ubuntu 9.04. There are some half-fixes
 which introduce new problems, but for most users I recommend going
 back to 8.10 for now. Easiest way around it, sadly.

My own domestic workstations are 4 Ghz AMD64 machines with 2Gb of RAM 
and an Nividia graphics card.  Built by me.  I used to build machines 
for IBM and Compaq. There is a slight glitch in the graphics from time 
to time but mostly it's okay.

I find these machines to be good for making videos and editing them.  
Kino or something similar Good for editing images from my Nikon 
digital SLR camera and of course the usual word processing and 
spreadsheets and e-mail (Kmail) and web pages.

Regards


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[SLUG] Re: GIMP (Was: Lenovo wins $150m NSW schools deal or April Fools joke?)

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 00:21:41 Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
 With regard to Technical/Architectural drawing - I suspect there
 would be lots of shortcomings in the gimp apart from its printing
 capabilitybut my tech drawing and
 photography classes were too long ago, for me to comment on how the
 subject is taught today. But I don't think the Gimp is a
 particularly good drawing package.

Hmm... I tend to use Gimp for editing Nikon raw data files and then 
batch process afterwards with Phatch.  To do any graphics or drawing I 
prefer Inkscape.  

At least we made it to the point where there is now a choice of 
graphics packages on the Linux desktop :)


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Re: [SLUG] Proprietary colour names (was GIMP was...)

2009-05-19 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 15:53 +0100, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
 ... much better than it was but some sort of Pantone colour 
 integration would be good (eventually).  An open source version of 
 that would need to be implemented.

Which is what the hold up is, at least as I understand it.

The Pantone colour palate (specifically their name-to-ink-colour
mappings) is Pantone's proprietary intellectual property and they have
chosen not to let them be used in libre ways.

[they make tons of money printing swatch books of the mappings and
licencing the names. This is not dissimilar to the business model used
by most font foundries, which is why there are so few libre fonts. The
difference is that anyone can create a font, whereas an industry
standard that is not an open standard with libre data is a bottleneck]

As long as the graphics arts industry continue to use those names to
identify, and the printing industry uses such names to distinguish the
pile of coloured bottles on the shelf, then apparently there's nothing
we can do. ie, we are free to come up with our own names for inks,
release them freely, and manufacture said inks to our hearts content.
But this doesn't do us the least bit of good until such time as such
inks were widely available at printing houses as an alternative to the
Pantone copyright ones. And that ain't about to happen.

It's exasperating, but the names  mapping are their property. I think
most people who need to would be happy to pay for access, but a) such a
datapack would be non-redistributable, and in any case b) since people
are used to getting it for free (in products whose vendors have
already paid Pantone for a licence), people don't really get the idea
that there's a cost to it.

So maybe we need to go on a crusade to convince ink manufacturers to
_also_ label their products with [some hypothetical set of
redistributable] names, as well as Pantone ones.

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[SLUG] Re: Proprietary colour names (was GIMP was...)

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 08:32:33 Andrew Cowie wrote:
 As long as the graphics arts industry continue to use those names
 to identify, and the printing industry uses such names to
 distinguish the pile of coloured bottles on the shelf, then
 apparently there's nothing we can do. ie, we are free to come up
 with our own names for inks, release them freely, and manufacture
 said inks to our hearts content. But this doesn't do us the least
 bit of good until such time as such inks were widely available at
 printing houses as an alternative to the Pantone copyright ones.
 And that ain't about to happen.

 It's exasperating, but the names  mapping are their property. I
 think most people who need to would be happy to pay for access, but
 a) such a datapack would be non-redistributable, and in any case b)
 since people are used to getting it for free (in products whose
 vendors have already paid Pantone for a licence), people don't
 really get the idea that there's a cost to it.

 So maybe we need to go on a crusade to convince ink manufacturers
 to _also_ label their products with [some hypothetical set of
 redistributable] names, as well as Pantone ones.

Some further background information for people who might not know a 
lot about this 

http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/49236?theme=print
http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=43129
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733411

For further info use Google and search for Linux Pantone or similar.  
An add on Gtk+ application for Gimp and Inkscape might do the job.  As 
always, it comes back to some brave sole who wants to write the code 
and circulate the software :)  Someone has to do it.  See also..

http://endsoftpatents.org/


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Re: [SLUG] Lenovo wins $150m NSW schools deal or April Fools joke?

2009-05-19 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

david wrote:



lloyd wrote:

I was surprised to get a written reply from the Education Minister to my
enquiries on this matter. I quote below, which may shed some light on
the Department's decisions.

The NSW Dept of Education  Training manages  and currently
installs, in parallel with Microsoft Office suite, Open Office on all
Technology for Learning computers and runs appropriate servers on a
Linux base. In sourcing applications all avenues are explored to
identify the most appropriate and cost effective solution, taking into
account platform migration costs and interoperability with current
systems. . During the procurement process, a range of operating
systems and applications was offered to meet the Department's
requirements, including solutions based on Apple, Linux and Microsoft
platforms. ... It was determined that a Microsoft based solution best
met the Department's needs, particularly with respect to multimedia
applications.




I'm sad to say that there is probably some truth in this. I recently 
started messing with video, and ended up buying a Mac because video on 
Linux was simply too difficult for the amount of time I have to spend on 
it.


Not that it can't be done, but Apple make it EASY to do. I want to do 
video work, not system administration work.


Assuming that you are producing MPEG2/DVDs there is probably also a licensing 
issue.

I would guess when they say multimedia, above, they mean flash. Though the NSW 
health department seems to have chosen to publishe video on their website in WMV.
(Warning the video automatically downloads from this site and fires up Kaffiene 
in my config). Note also the ASP extension

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/publichealth/swine_flu.asp

compare this with:
 !-- compliance patch for microsoft browsers --
 !--[if IE 6]
 script type=text/javascript 
src=/TemplatePackage/js/A/blocks-ie6.js/script
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css 
href=/TemplatePackage/css/A/threeColumn-float-ie.css /

 ![endif]--
in source code at:
http://www.cdc.gov/?s_cid=swineFlu_outbreak_004

For more about
Video on the Web see
http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/web-video-formats.shtml

Haven't tested the Video editing on the Linux 701 eee PC but the microphone
camera worked extremely well with skype!
http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/eeepc-video-conference.shtml



Linux colour management simply isn't good enough. GIMP is fine, and I 
use it a lot, but it's too restricted in the colour management area, and 
doesn't handle 16 bit.


Sound on Linux is patchy. There are too many times when I have to 
struggle to make it do what I want it to do.


That doesn't mean things won't change in the future. It's not so long 
ago that Gnome was a dog. Now it's my window manager of preference over 
MacOs or Windows.




And despite references to interoperability - I would guess the standard desktop
is Explorer rather than Firefox. Meaning webpages comply with Explorer rather
than open standards

Marghanita




L

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 15:47 +1000, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:

Adrian Chadd wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:

So, the school kids are being taught to develop content for four 
colour industrial printing, rather than websites?


Personally, I would think that school kids and FOSS developers time 
is better

spent improving tools and adding to content in the online world.
What really erks me, is that no doubt a PDF newsletters will be 
produced and
emailed around to be printed on home and school printers (no 
commercial printer

in sight). - Tell me I'm wrong.
I'd rather they'd be taught the difference between the two, so 
hopefully

those who are smart enough to get it will have the oppertunity to.

Don't dumb stuff down. Kids are smarter than you'd think. And god knows
that FOSS developers could do with being exposed to stuff -outside-
of the cool+hip FOSS environment(s) today.

Far from limiting the kids chances, I was hoping for the opposite. 
There is far
too much PDF/proprietary and Desktop published content/designed for 
the
printed page, on the web and not enough open accessible (HTML) web 
content.


If the kids are going to be provided with education on all the 
different formats, discussion about appropriate communication mediums 
etc, then fine but



Comparison with RGB

Comparisons between RGB displays and CMYK prints can be difficult, 
since the 
color reproduction technologies and properties are so different. A 
laser or
ink-jet printer prints in dots per inch (dpi) which is very different 
from a
computer screen, which displays graphics in pixels per inch (ppi). A 
computer
screen mixes shades of red, green, and blue to create color pictures. 
A CMYK
printer must compete with the many shades of RGB with only one shade 
each of
cyan, magenta and yellow, which it will mix using dithering, 
halftoning or some
other optical technique; this dithering produces a lower level of 
detail than

the printer's dpi suggests.

[SLUG] Dell Latitude 2100

2009-05-19 Thread lesl...@ozemail.com.au
Someone posted something about the above. I went looking to see what I could 
find
about it from Dell itself and found this:
http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2009/05/18/latitude-2100-dell-netbook-for-schools.aspx

Among other things, I noticed that the version of Ubuntu being offered is 8.10.

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Re: [SLUG] security monitor with webcam

2009-05-19 Thread Phil Manuel
I remember that story as well, I believe he was using zoneminder.  We  
use this package at work, it is not an easy install with some USB  
camera's although it has improved with later releases and kernels.

On 19/05/2009, at 1:47 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:

Whatever you use, consider uploading the feed to a server in another  
location.


I remember reading about a guy from the UK who caught a thief who
stole his computer by having the entire incident recorded remotely,
including the face of the idiot as he walked over to pick up the
working computer.

Good luck.

-Amos

On 5/19/09, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:


My flats have had a series of fires (BY Idiots) and I want to  
hook

up a webcam and record all the comings and goings from the building.
Fortunately I can do this from my kitchen window.

Is there a way to snapshot every second and discard any significant
duplicate pictures,  pictures would also need to be watermarked  
with the

time.

I then want to be able to replay a section of time that is the best
estimate of when the fire was set.   I may not be home / awake.



From a hardware point of view,  can I extend the USB wire as I need

about 3m extra.   Would it still work.

Ta
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Re: [SLUG] security monitor with webcam

2009-05-19 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:46:15PM +1000, Phil Manuel wrote:
 [ ... ]
 use this package at work, it is not an easy install with some USB  
 camera's although it has improved with later releases and kernels.

Indeed; my camera (logitech sphere af) has only become painless with
very recent versions of kernel and motion.

Here's some dmesg lines for it:

Linux video capture interface: v2.00
uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device unnamed (046d:0994)
uvcvideo: UVC non compliance - GET_DEF(PROBE) not supported. Enabling 
workaround.
input: UVC Camera (046d:0994) as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input5


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[SLUG] LPI course in Sydney

2009-05-19 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
From time to time someone will ask how to get a Linux certification.
Most of us recommend the LPI, but apart from Granville TAFE I haven't
known about any preparation courses out there.

Today I found another place, via (*cough*) a Google advert.

http://www.simt.nsw.edu.au/lpi1_linux.php
http://www.simt.nsw.edu.au/lpi2_linux.php

It might be worth taking a look.

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